Thank you!! just saw ur 1993 New Order Tinley Park, IL recording, so ill be listening to that during work momentarily lol

@@juliancoversbass No worries man! Yeah its one of my favourites! Im glad you enjoy it! I have some more New Order going up soon

@@alisonmercieca1465 love hearing that, thank you! I’m seeing him for the second time in Austin in a few months and am super excited

Thank you!

Thanks mate I appreciate that a lot

So the vast majority of information I’ve gotten from either Hooky’s Substance book or from live performance videos (which is how u can see he used the 6 string for songs that don’t even use the B and high E like As It Is When It Was and Subculture). His book goes extremely in depth regarding recording and production and he’ll also just make general comments. From Low Life until Lost Sirens, every single bass part that isn’t played on the 6 string was played on his red Yamaha BB1200s, according to himself. For Movement and most of PCL he would’ve used another Yamaha, I think the BB1200 (sunburst color). On PCL he used fretless 4 string for We All Stand and Ultraviolence. And also no worries about asking man! I have a lot of knowledge about this stuff which would be considered extremely niche to even my musician friends so I love every chance I get to talk to anyone on here

@juliancoversbass yeah man your very talented and enjoy your videos. Also I want to buy Hookys book soon

@@cgienthusiast I appreciate that! And yea I highly recommend it, it’s probably my favorite music autobiography I’ve read. Even beyond the extensive details about the music and bands life, hooky is just a very natural storyteller, which is definitely not the case for a lot of others I’ve read

@juliancoversbass I looked up the shergold marathon 6 string and the hooky bass 6 pro and the as it is when it was has that beautiful tone of those 2 basses.

@@cgienthusiast definitely yeah, that’s why I played that one on passive for this vid and then a jazz bass for the standalone vid on it. There’s a lot of those cool details to be discovered, like the fretless basses or no chorus pedal on Every Little Counts. One of the biggest reasons New Order is my favorite band is that combination between self producing / experimenting and not being trained musicians, the music has so much replay ability since there’s so many layers of ear candy

Thanks mate! This was one of the earlier songs I learned by ear since there weren’t any tabs, so it’s to hear it helped at least one person out

Thank you man! So Hook never played the Fender bass xi, but the bass xi is identically tuned and tonally to the Shergold Marathon 6 string that he did play. There are some hardware differences like the Shergold having a larger neck or the Fender having multiple pickups, but all in all if you’re looking to play those B and high E string Hooky parts, the bass xi (Fender or Squire) is a good pick. Hooky did play a Fender baritone guitar (same body and neck as a bass xi) very briefly in 1980 when New Order’s gear was stolen in NYC, but he quickly realized that baritone guitars are tuned differently and if he tuned it E to e, the strings would snap easily lol.

@@juliancoversbass its so cool how you own a fender bass vi, I want to get the Squier version someday lol

Thank you man! I always like writing about the music / gear but don't get many comments on my descriptions lol so thank you for reading all of that

It is certainly pretty good!

Couldn't agree more! I've tried to give RA's solo work a chance and I can't get through anything since it's boring, lifeless and doesn't take any risks. The Verve as a band and the chemistry and creativity that makes their instrumentals is second to none imo and to Ashcroft's credit, he ties it all together. If you haven't heard the unreleased tracks from the Urban Hymns and Forth sessions, definitely give those a listen. All Ways are Maybes (Nick McCabe's pick for pest Verve song), Tina Turner, and Blue Pacific Ocean are lightyears ahead of any RA solo songs.

The pedals a Moog MF 103 12 stage phaser. You can definitely get a chorus or flanger-like effect by using it (or in this case, using it badly); I’ll call this tone “intentional flang”. I’ve used it for every video I’ve done so anything else would give you a better idea of how I use it. That being said, it’s just a cool pedal that I got from a synth friend and I tried it out on the bass and decided it gives my bass tone an effect hardly anyone else would land on, so really that’s why I use it.

Somehow didn't see this comment, but that was a great little refresher. I can hear the Lane influence for sure. Fun fact: Tin Solider was one of the first songs I learned to play by ear

@@juliancoversbass that is awesome! I'm listening to that song now.

I definitely didn’t mean it in a bad way! I think the better way to put it is (so far) they’ve been a band I like but don’t love. The first albums similarity to the roses made it addicting for me and it’s one of my most played albums, just no further spark came from it. That being said, they’re coming to Austin in January to do their second album in full (along with Ride doing Nowhere) and I’m sure seeing that could be a game changer for me. PS Tremolo Song is my favorite of theirs and I’ll be doing a cover of it soon

@@juliancoversbass that is gracious of you. Charlatans were one of my favourites of that era, I've seen them live 3 times I think in Toronto in the 90s. I'd go see them and or Ride if you get the chance. I see you like these 80s/90s bands, have you hear of Brian Jonestown Massacre? They are still going strong right in the same wheelhouse as they Brit bands but they are from San Fran. Check 'em out sometime.

Thank you! I’d say most bassists who aren’t involved the writing process (although in Manis case he definitely deserves some credits on a few songs) will follow the approach of hearing the guitar / melody, coming up with an idea in their head, and then either noodling / jamming until they get that idea or using that process to go in a new direction and get a better part. Most bassists I like are definitely more of the jammy type, like Mani, McCartney, Peter Hook, Simon Jones type players. I think maybe Bruce Foxton and Nick O’Malley are probably good examples of players who take a more calculated approach to their parts. Overall every bassist + song is a unique case.

@@juliancoversbass Thank you for your reply. It is interesting to me. I have watched a few of your posts and subscribed. As I said I'm not a musician but always been really into it and watching your fingers and hands work with songs I know and love from my youth is pretty cool.

@@neilwhitaker6284 Thank you mate, I appreciate that a lot. I loved your comment since I really had to think about how to articulate a grey area that I also find very interesting.

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thank u mate!

Thank you! And yes you should

Lol no worries! Definitely going to be doing more Verve. I didn't have a delay pedal at the time of doing Gravity Grave so I'm not too happy with that recording, but oh well. If you're interested, here's a full band cover of Man Called Sun: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHysZ5Vjqq6ZjtEsi=aSmMekaj1yeOX2_1. It's unlisted currently but I'm considering making it public soon.

That is so cool!...thank you...I will check it out!

Thanks for watching! As times goes on they continually pull away from every other 90s band in my mind. Their collective sound is unrivaled.

Indeed! Even if it's a bit difficult to record with, nothing else sounds anything like it.

That is a beautiful and rare instrument. Mani had a lovely one that John Squire gave the pollock treatment to (paint job).

@@TheMusicianTom Mani’s was definitely my introduction to and inspiration for getting a 4005! They’re equally unique and beautiful, even if lacking slightly in functionality. He also had a backup one in black (like mine but different year) that I think he auctioned off a few years ago. You can see him use the black one on Primal Scream’s TOTP performance of Star and also the Roses’ Reading 1996 performance (I believe for Ice Cold Cube and maybe one other).

Thanks again! If you like that, check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXivg3qjfquJaK8si=nNthPmBZBmJu3VL3. We’ve gotten a lot better over the years

Thank u!

Very insightful

Thank you!

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Thanks man! Yeah this version and other rarer clips from this IB era are great, wish this band had more time together

Thanks man! And I honestly have the same question about that metallic tone (Especially the parts during the verses). Off the top of my head, I feel like there was possibly some sort of layering done over Hooky's parts. Maybe an additional synth playing the notes or maybe even another bass guitar in a different octave? My studio / sonics knowledge is meh at best so that's just me thinking out loud. But yeah compare the bass tone on True Faith (and a bit 1963) to any other New Order recording and there's a noticeable difference. For what it's worth, Stephen Hague did say he messed up recording/mixing the bass for this session.

Wasn't familiar with the songsterr version till now. That version is the same notes but yeah I'm fairly certain Mani played up and down the E and A rather than what that says. Then again I'd say songsterr gets it a bit wrong for the solo/outro when it goes to A. At that point, I believe the way I play it is how Mani played it.

@@juliancoversbass Songsterr is often a bit odd. Sometimes it shows a song with the bass tuned up a half despite the actual song not being like that.

@@NickHarman I definitely like Songsterr as an alternative to regular tabs. I know I used it plenty before I could learn by ear. The "problem" with Songsterr is it's user submissions so there is potential for them to be either flat out wrong or prefer playing in a way that isn't the exact recording (which there's nothing wrong with!).

Thanks I know some songs but plan on listening to the albums soon.

Thanks mate!

Thanks mate!

Thanks mate, and I absolutely agree!

Thanks mate, I appreciate it! I couldn't imagine not listening to the Scream, they've got so much music across so many genres, there's something for any thing. And yeah, I've got 2 other basses I'd consider slightly better sounding than the jazz bass, but it's got the best neck of any bass I've ever played and the large body lends itself to someone my height as well.

@@juliancoversbass jazz necks are clutch. never got down with pbass necks myself, but everyone is different. what year is it? the modern necks are considerably different than the 60's and 70's ones

@@ThomasDaley100 it's from 2008, but it was one of those 1975 reissues. I know in the 90s they made a bunch of them in Japan but mine is American made, which I don't see pop up too often. Lots of great players used those 70s models, Bernard Edwards, most reggae guys, etc.