Why do they keep changing the crafting??? Crafting was fine the first time then they nuked it a few updates ago and then this update just further cripples crafting. Its utter bs and new players won't be able to craft their stuff until end game. It's stupid.

There is a lot wrong with the numbers ye said mate, getting alloys is pretty easy And they do drop AP rounds from kills Also the game got crazy easy now The bots drop wayyyyyyyyyy too much stuff now ie ammo and meds They really gotta make the game harder

They pretty much ruined experimental ammo crafting for me so I ain’t gonna use it no more, I’ll just stick to good old 7.62 FMJ lol.

This update definitely did bug my world. The two regions that I do have built up bases in don't have a high enough threat level to do a base defense (and while running around and killing robots to increase it is the answer, I; 1. Ran out of medkits two days after the update dropped [blame the turrets in the final part of the mission] and barely any robots are spawning for me right now) Along with that, the two bases I do have built up are drill bases, and they now require reinforced materials for many base walls. For a solo player that tries to legitimately get stuff before submitting to the trading channels on the discord, this is highly infuriating

I hate it a lot, making sure that the furnace doesn't overheat while fighting doesn't make it any better, considering when I played for first time furnace defense mission, I had military Hunter eat 2 rockets and take absolutely no damage and a full mag from AK didn't do it much (even some of the runners were taking a bit too much ammo for a military teir). Clothing upgrades now take those refined materials too, you can forget about getting any decent protection because of that

I was level 51 before the update came out. All I can say is I am glad I had a boatload of resources saved up and Soviet walls all built around my compounds

I feel so bad for anyone that didn’t already have max level clothing and supplies already stocked up for…well, everything. They’re going to have to revise everything or it’s just not going to be as fun anymore.

Absolute nightmare now ... i won't be doing any more defence bases , it's so stupid how they have done this update ... went in last night put 200 data in for the vulture ... and it didn't appear so bloody annoyed atm..and is it worth even putting a ticket in any more ...took a Reaper down and no ammo and no weapons what so ever... i mean wtf !!!! Bearing in mind I'm level 180 and not a newbie... but they have deffo ruined this game ...Also if you are doing this with a friend , they get nothing so there's no incentive to do these base defence with mates now either ...

How do you get the new experimental weapons?

Imagine using 2 medkits in the process of making 2 medkits.

Been hardly crafting anything even before, simply because my loot goblin playstyle gave me way more than i needed. In fact i had to start crafting recently because i could not store more stuff in my maxed crafting/storage chests. Now i am always rocking around with homing turrets and stuff just to make sure that my storages don't overflow. So will be fun to see if i will be forced to change my behavior in game.

Crafting now is well crap... Also the new experimental weapons drop is poor. I have so far killed 43 level 4 rivals and all I get is paint schemes for my runner...

Just started playing GZ the day before the new patch. 48 hours ago unlocked the first base and played the first defence and... that was awesome 😊 I hope the they change the conversion ratio. As you say 100:12 it seems really low. Maybe 100:50 or let you put in even more material to obtain 500:250.

It's not the best or the worst, but the game has potential and if it wasn't the last update, they could do something interesting.

the best way to change it would simply be to make the new resources be used strictly for bulk crafting and more permanent equipment upgrades like the armor upgrades because even though I do enjoy base defense the amount of resources needed is too much for the average player. another thing that would be nice is if they would just remove storage limits all together for those of us that want to be able to stack as many resources and as much ammo as possible. (im aware that there is a bug to allow you to do this with scrap but it gets tedious having to take everything out just to scrap something)

yeah the payouts for the base defense is underwhelming. The mechanics i enjoy a bit more but i feel that's more to do with the free base repair. The resources im struggling still outside of base defence is Uranium, wood and Concrete. I really wish they boost harvesting wood from one tree would yield 10 to 30 wood rather just 1. 😑

What do you mean it's hard to come across first aid kits? Whenever I'm low on advanced first aids I just go and hunt Spetsnaz Lynx patrols. They usually drop an advanced first aid kit from time to time on Xbox in my experience. And yes, this is Post-Update. Also, just saying. I hope they revert these changes. Like, allow phosphorous to be used to make the Concrete walls, but keep the Soviet/Resistance walls phosphorous free. Though, one silver lining I had with this is Soviet's raiding the bases. I've only played on Gardberg mine control point (Drill special building) one time on hard, and I got raided by Soviet machines.

VEEERY unpopular opinion. But I'm actually gonna miss the sliver and red wood design for the 5 star AI-76. The change for the M16 design, I still welcome.

É é por isso mesmo que eu copio todos os itens do jogo e armas também, quero jogar não farmar

there's no sugar coating it it sucks just have them like the crafting table but with a timer

I was saving up concrete for the ag4 last tier mag upgraded which i have now but can't do it now as i need the 4 refined 92U.

The Dev's FORCED many players into Base building to get a Reaper. Now they are FORCING players again for some basic kit! Never done base building! NEVER WILL!!! PS. Anyone know when the servers get shut down?

To be honest the things they did bad Trump what they did good, I finished the story and I think I'm done with the game. This update seems like mostly a big f you to the community, they fixed nothing we asked for and made quality of life worse. They really did just ruin the game.

Deadass they had the right idea but leaving the game off like this is just sad/pathetic. It’s not in a good state and to stop updating after this relative disappointment in terms of balancing, it makes me upset. I’ve 100% the game with 1k+ hours. I collected all the new EXP weapons and completed the rest of the story. The base and resource thing killed it for me, just messes up progression. Plus my tier 3 lifesteal PKM got deleted for some reason, and I am not grinding 1200 ethanol just to get it back.

Unpopular opinion. I hope they leave it as is. This new system actually makes finding things in the wild more valuable and the base defence realisticly makes more sense. I think endgame ativities are now more meaningfull than just messing around and getting stuff easily. The initial purpose if the game was to had a hard time with the machines but it was so easy to get top tier medkits, ammo etc. that people just played without using any strategies with a sense of danger.

I mean, i think its okay. Its a bit more annoying, but i prefer this over just running around wildly.

I personally love The new system Bc i can repeat them over over And over again until my game crashes xd the most important thing is to seek The best locations for these new structures My personal favourites are as follow: (Chemical lab) That's the Bicycle Area base (Near boo bruk AB) hope i write it right for drills there are ravienen (definitely not the best English) and the furnace is In the sout coast thats the Camping area on the top left (over almost 2000 hours i don't know the names blame me later thx

Surely there will be a patch, on the forum there's already a shit ton of posts about the bugs

When i do the furnace it loses my uranium when i try to refine it. Is it just me?

I never really used the experimental ammo given I've had more of a passive relation with generation zero. It's a fun game and a good one at that but it's never been the core of my game time really. It definitely doesn't help that they basically killed crafting cus they nerfed the craft values for ammo so heavily and aggressively. Did it need a change, sure, but that much of a change is what I question. I don't hate base building but haven't ever had a good enough time with it given I'm not that great at it but also I had a base I liked but a map update happened that deleted my entire rear wall. Not to mention the high-end base parts, and now take these new resources from the furnace.

It's super ridiculous and seems almost contemptuous of the players. If the devs aren't going to roll back this bullshit we might have to rely on mods or cheats. (I like using WeMod to change the time of day. Don't like playing in the dark all the time.) Base defense just needed one thing: PUSH A BUTTON TO START IT. Why do I have to attack robots in the environment first, and then it's random about which one of my bases is going to get the mission. It's dumb. The fun of base defense is trying to design the base to get robots to fall into traps. Even in the old way that was a bit slapdash. Sniper towers and machine gun turrets just drew aggro moreso than actually killing robots. Yeah, one-button reset is kinda cool, but the absurd requirements for building and crafting is terrible. My carpentry skills are basic, but I know enough that a plywood wall isn't made with Steel and Phosphorous and NOT wood! Sheesh. I also get non-stop robot spawns even after the drill\chemical\furnace mission is over. I don't get it.

I used special ammunition only on several occasions. When even AP ammunition has to have such a stupid time wasting inefficient procedure, then I will simply stay with the collectible ammo. The work of the dev team is then, in my case, for nothing. The collecting is time consuming enough, now to refine things? No way.

I hate it. To the point I will no longer use it. They screwed up the the weapon augmentation system too. I wish I could uninstall the update.

There's crafting? Lol

Ok, I haven't been paying much attention to the update until I just got an ingame message mentioning I can start the missions. What exactly do I have to do to start them off?

I played 2 hard ones for drills so far one in farmland the other in the southeast region and they spawned Russian bots wich made it impossible to do since firebirds can shoot over the walls and one salvo the objective, you can't even stop them from doing so since they aggro automatically on them

Devs proved they just don’t care huh. Time for the game to be bought out by competent devs

I dislike the changes to crafting.

this update fucking sucks and the developers don't give a shit.

if i had known the crafting snafu i would of used up all thousands of my uranium. they either need to up the rates or make other sources as its lowered my motivation to do the stuff and mostly been using up my hoard of ammo. as it is im using more med kits per run than i can craft and im using a life steal lmg to help offset it

That’s what I was thinking to I can’t even build walls bruh or exp ammo

I'm of the mindset that this is the most egregious and blatant "throw our hands up" update I've ever had the displeasure of playing. Note how a while back they released a roadmap for the game and content they were planning down the line? Strange isn't it... how suddenly Steam releases a new ToS targeting developers to set *AND* meet deadlines when creating roadmaps, and that if they can't be followed through, you can delay the promised update up to 3 months, but if you miss or you fail to meet your targets too many times. Steam reserves the right to stop selling your game on their storefront and offer people who most recently bought the game full refunds for the purchase if they so desired to. Period. Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is most often the best one... I'm actually just DONE with this game. Maybe I read too much into it. But at this point I don't care. I feel betrayed more than anything. How the fuck does someone screw their game economy this bad who has a brain in between their ears? This felt like an insult. If the developers aren't going to respect my time, then I'll give them none in return.

The crafting changes ARE NOT good for the health of the game. I understand that this was the last updated, but they definitely dropped the ball. I love this game, but the gameplay loop is now terrible. You're at a net loss if you play for any length of time. You used to be able to pick and choose what resources you picked off enemies. Now, you'll have to take EVERYTHING

I agree with this ruining crafting. If they had what they had, then just added the drills, furnace, and chem lab along with the new crafting stuff then that would be fine.

6:01 modders well def fix this

I've never crafted i single bullet, i live of what the land gives me, looks like i will stick with that. I liked the old base defense, the new one is not my thing. Im gonna ignore that whole part of the game. 😂

I've been playing since launch day. I'm not happy any all about these changes. Base building never appealed to me so I never did it. Having to craft AP ammo now is a major turn off, as is having to grind for little payoff. Not sure what they were thinking with these changes, it kind of sucked all the excitement out of this update to where I might just wait and see what they do before returning.

Yeah I'm dropping this game. To say I'm disappointed is an understatement...

Thank you so much for making Generation Zero so much more enjoyable for me and others. Hopefully, the programmers will greatly up the rewards for doing these base defenses, which I will not be doing as well, because the return is way too small for the massive grind, and major loss of ammo.

Thanks!