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@CatholicHaze
@CatholicHaze 3 ай бұрын
Great, fascinating overview of the history. Thanks for making this video!
@rosemarywalker924
@rosemarywalker924 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video very much enjoyed, yes the faithful city Worcester. 🍐
@Loralanthalas
@Loralanthalas 4 ай бұрын
Imagine somone recording a tree I planted and they remembered it decades after Id gone ❤
@BrianPlace-y2z
@BrianPlace-y2z 8 ай бұрын
Poor background music choices - that awful clunking slow piano pacing, for example, nearly drowning out the narrator's voice. Indeed, why have music at all if the story is interesting enough? I suspect that it's just a lazy amateur attitude of "I mean, you gotter have music on all the time...innit?".
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 6 ай бұрын
I'm ashamed to say that as well as the narrator, I am also the producer, filmer and writer. Sorry to have disappointed you
@ENSAANDOOST
@ENSAANDOOST 8 ай бұрын
Suggested Correction : Your video incorrectly shows the Former Alice Ottley school as Whiteladies ,actually situated in the current grounds of Royal Grammar School . Whiteladies was one of the school houses that housed the Boarders up until 1980s .
@monicacall7532
@monicacall7532 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating info. What an exquisite cathedral! Thanks.
@oswaldomaldonado1051
@oswaldomaldonado1051 11 ай бұрын
This documentary is an absolute joke. How possible can you make a documentary about Cathedrals and bishops and never use the word Catholic? 18 minutes of clever revisionist history. Its an attempt to pretend that the Church just came out of nowhere. And the reason for this deception is that they don't want their Anglican listeners to know the true history. They even described them as Anglo Saxon Cathedrals and Anglo Saxon Bishops. That is a meaningless term designed to hide or supplant the Catholic Church. Saint Oswald was a CATHOLIC BISHOP. Just tell your people the truth so that they can know that every beautiful Cathedral in England is stolen property, stolen by the Adulturer King Henry.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 10 ай бұрын
Hi. I'm not actually religious so I have no vested interest in promoting one church doctrine over another. The term 'Anglo-Saxon' here is used to denote the church as it existed in it's chronological setting, as opposed to any religious denomination (i.e. 'the Anglo-Saxon period'). I fear you've misinterpreted this as some form of religious quasi-propaganda. I'm just trying to offer a summary of a piece of my local history.
@oswaldomaldonado1051
@oswaldomaldonado1051 10 ай бұрын
@@faithfulhistory my friend i think the mistake you are making is dishonest that is my point. You have deleted history and removed the context. I believe you may not have meant to but you did. There can only be two reasons for this, either malice or ignorance.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 10 ай бұрын
​@@oswaldomaldonado1051 I think what you're saying is that I've distorted the picture by omitting the wider context of it's creation? I don't think omission is equitable to dishonesty. I had a framework for what I wanted to explore in the film and it didn't include the context of why the See was created. It wasn't a deliberate attempt to distort anything as you have insinuated. Interestingly On another comment elsewhere someone argued that the only negative they saw in the film was that I hadn't mentioned the Orthodoxy of the Bishops at this time. I'm assuming this is part of some wider academic debate about the English church's denomination? For my own part I'm a local historian and it's immaterial to me whether the first Bishops of Worcester were Catholic, Orthodox or belonged to Westborough Baptist church. I'm coming at this from a secular perspective and ultimately I wrote what I found to be of interest.
@oswaldomaldonado1051
@oswaldomaldonado1051 10 ай бұрын
@@faithfulhistory Lying by omission is when a person leaves out important information or fails to correct a pre-existing misconception in order to hide the truth from others. Lies of omission are distinct from lies of commission which involve telling someone something that simply isn’t true. You should think about your actions what you did and test it to see if it is reasonable. For example if you had created a documentary about anglo saxon mosques and never mentioned Islam the obvious omission would be glaring. The viewer would ask a simple question why would someone spend 30 minutes talking about mosques and imams and never use the words islam or muslim? Why would they do that? Or pick any subject and ask yourself what a reasonable person would say about a glaring omission of that nature? They would call your integrity into question. A reasonable person would assume you are not objective. A professional secular objective historian can describe religious buildings in their context without omitting the religion. The purpose of the Parthenon on the Acropolis in Greece was to house a massive statue of Athena Parthenos made from ivory, silver and gold. Imagine doing a 30 minite documentary on the Parthenon and never mentioning the Cult of Athena. The omission would be obvious and the bias would be apparent. The lack of objectivity would betray a lack of intellectual integrity.
@johnjohnston8976
@johnjohnston8976 Жыл бұрын
the sound is very poor
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory Жыл бұрын
Tips for improvement? Sounds okay to me?
@somemate1050
@somemate1050 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, a tomb with a dead person inside it?! How did it get there? What sick fuck puts a person inside a coffin?!
@JonSmith-fr7ep
@JonSmith-fr7ep Жыл бұрын
I live in Worcestershire and been to that park many times but never knew that 😮😮😮
@seltaeb9691
@seltaeb9691 Жыл бұрын
I worked at Berrows Newspapers in 1980s & claims to be the oldest newspaper in the World.
@conneelyb
@conneelyb 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Paul Bettany.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take that all day long!
@conneelyb
@conneelyb 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching it. Narrator was Joe Tierney.
@TimO-pv7uh
@TimO-pv7uh 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your videos, Joe. Have a question though. You acknowledge BNA and the British Library for the newspaper articles used throughout. Did you specifically have to ask their permission? The BNA website seems to indicate that this is required. But maybe you know something I don't. I use the odd local article in my Tudor House writings and research and don't want to fall foul of copyright issues should any of these come to be printed and used in the museum. Thanks TimO
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim! Yeah I did and I had to pay for a license to reproduce them too. Annoyingly their website lists fairly reasonably prices per page, but when I enquired I found they recently outsourced this function to a third party known as Bridgeman images. Lovely staff and people but I'll be honest I paid way more than I should have for the images!
@martinwarner1178
@martinwarner1178 2 жыл бұрын
That video is a lovely introduction to a visit to Worcester. Well presented, I like it how the written pieces appear. Well done, and I hope there is more to come. Peace be unto you.
@becs4098
@becs4098 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous, after watching with my junior archaeologists (aged 9) we're planning a trip to the cloisters to see if we can spot the Anglo-Saxon bits in real life.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
The capitals and bases of the columns in the cafe are more dependably dated because of their distinctive appearance....also a great excuse to sit and eat cake staring at them!
@andrewhart6377
@andrewhart6377 2 жыл бұрын
Have not yet heard any Historian to have enough backbone to use the term Cultural Genocide when it came to the Normans imposing their ways on a subject people. This is what they did.
@SaugotChowdhury
@SaugotChowdhury 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Love the channel. Now it is 212. Will be awesome if it reaches one million 😍
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Saugot! Really encouraging to hear ^_^
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
CORRECTION @15:48: John's tomb dates to c.1232, not 1225 as listed. I was thinking of the approximate date when work on rebuilding the eastern end of the Cathedral began!
@alexhayden2303
@alexhayden2303 2 жыл бұрын
Our millions of new Citizens, will have no interest in any of this. Sic transit Gloria! 1956,,,,,,,,,and never learnt a damned thing!
@GazzaBoo
@GazzaBoo 2 жыл бұрын
They may be citizens, but they will never be English.
@martinwarner1178
@martinwarner1178 2 жыл бұрын
@@GazzaBoo The next steps to this situation is rack and ruin, for the newbies will not work for "old History." Peace be unto you.
@alexhayden2303
@alexhayden2303 10 ай бұрын
@@GazzaBoo They will never be British either!
@dystopik32
@dystopik32 9 ай бұрын
look to the broken abbeys to see how Worcester will look in 200 years. If they succeed in establishing the caliphate then these beacons of Christianity will be in line for demolition. Look at what they did every where else.
@neilgodwin6531
@neilgodwin6531 6 ай бұрын
1956 was a great year. Or so my mum led me to believe.
@alexhayden2303
@alexhayden2303 2 жыл бұрын
To get some idea of the enormous cost of this building, can someone suggest what it would cost to build a replica and just how long?
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't know where to start, but I can tell you it takes approximately £3,500 per day to run (this includes the cost of employing a team of stone masons who are located on site permanently....there's always some bit of masonry wants repairing!)
@orlando1a1
@orlando1a1 2 жыл бұрын
A fascinating and beautifully produced video that held my attention, educating me and shedding light on the ancient history of a wonderful building. Thank you.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Kind words indeed! Glad you enjoyed ^_^
@raymondtonns2521
@raymondtonns2521 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this Joe!
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@John-yz2bw
@John-yz2bw 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching that very much. Lots of detail that doesn't usually come up in pieces about Elgar. Not long before Marl Bank was demolished I went to look at it as part of my work for a property company (not the one that demolished it!). I was well aware of the Elgar connection and enjoyed walking through the house and standing in the bedroom looking out over the view of Worcester. As I left I put my hand on the brass and porcelain light-switch by the door thinking how often Elgar must have done the same. The memory still gives me pleasure and a personal connection.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic story! Glad you enjoyed it
@jonathangoll2918
@jonathangoll2918 2 жыл бұрын
St Wulfstan is a hero of mine. He and the Archbishop of Canterbury, Lanfranc, approached William the Conqueror to ask him to abolish slavery, which he, or his immediate successors, seem to have done. William of Malmesbury records that Wulfstan demonstrated outside Bristol - then in his Diocese, and where there was a slave market - against the slave trade. This all proved useful in 1772, when the Lord Chief Justice - Lord Mansfield - was forced to declare that slavery had no place in English law. William the Conqueror was a devout Catholic, and had a better right to the throne than the usurper, Harold. I believe that the reason why many Saxon bishops - like the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Stigand - had to go was that they had been consecrated by an antipope and therefore they were not valid bishops. Wulfstan's consecration was valid.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
He was a real titan of history! Thanks for the info I haven't actually looked too much at any business he had with King William
@johnbrereton5229
@johnbrereton5229 2 жыл бұрын
William the Bastards claim on the English throne was tenuous at best.
@neilgodwin6531
@neilgodwin6531 6 ай бұрын
I would strongly contest the claim the Harold Godwinson was a "usurper". The Godwins were long established as one of the most powerful families in Anglo-Saxon England. I accept that with my surname, I may be thought to be biased....
@stephengraham5099
@stephengraham5099 2 жыл бұрын
It this a digital narrator? Simultaneously was pronounced the American way, as was leverage.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Nope 'tis my voice!
@stephengraham5099
@stephengraham5099 2 жыл бұрын
@@faithfulhistory Oh. You have a nice accent. 😇 The British pronunciation of Sim isn't pronounced as in Simon, it is as in sim card, and leverage is as in lee. 😇
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephengraham5099 high praise indeed! I shall heed your sage advice on future films 😀
@richardthompson9836
@richardthompson9836 2 жыл бұрын
What a very well done video and trip down memory lane for me. My mother was born in Worcester and my father in Virginia, USA. She was the postman’s daughter at Spetchley and met my dad while delivering Mail to the US Army staff that was stationed there during WWII. Needless to say, I am quite happy that they did meet and that I am half British. In 1962, and at the age of 13, I traveled to Worcester from our home in Orlando to live for a while with my grandmother and aunt on Camp Hill RD. Worcester is my “adopted” city and her lovely cathedral is always a “must stop” location on my visits there. I’m never disappointed at the things that I have discovered there over the years as there are just so many exciting things to see. Yes, this is solid British history, but in some small way it keeps reaching across “the Pond” and calling me. Thank you so very mush for making this.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard thanks for your kind words! Always gratifying to see people enjoying my work - even thousands of miles away!
@TheTraveller20081
@TheTraveller20081 2 жыл бұрын
A lovely piece of work, thank you for making this. I know Elgar's music, his love of the Malvern hills, and that he was connected with Worcester - but as you note in the description, I've never known his full history with the place. This deserves a wider audience.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your kind words! I'm hoping to re-release it soon with some decent recordings of his music provided by the English Symphony Orchestra. I'll probably plug it a lot more to musical groups etc then
@nobody687
@nobody687 2 жыл бұрын
Wow people worship sauce
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
We do round these parts mate
@hetrodoxly1203
@hetrodoxly1203 2 жыл бұрын
It's still made there.
@stephenhusbands434
@stephenhusbands434 2 жыл бұрын
- Stumbled across this video when searching for Marianne Faithfull content - Very impressed by the camera, writing, production and narration - A really informative labour of love. It's a shame that the man behind this project seems only to be mentioned briefly in the credits at the very end of the film. Could I suggest - 'JOE TIERNEY'S FAITHFUL HISTORY' ' for future videos. Would also love to see at least a few cameo appearances by the aforementioned mastermind of the project. Do hope these requests can be seriously considered.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
You sentimental boob, you!
@stephenhusbands434
@stephenhusbands434 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your considered reply I will take it as a yes. - After further research I believe Elgar may have holidayed in Southerndown in South Wales - Serendipitously I once wrote a song about that very place - You can hear it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/npqWkIWuisaroNE
@abigailbrookes7721
@abigailbrookes7721 2 жыл бұрын
This is a lovely account of local history.
@Baldtvreviews
@Baldtvreviews 2 жыл бұрын
What a nice video.
@London_miss234
@London_miss234 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Very well put together.
@rogerthompson1622
@rogerthompson1622 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting but I fear the quality of the period soundtrack does not do credit to your production or the music of Elgar.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger. Alas, I needed to record using an original 1927 gramophone and records as they were the only sources of his music that would not have required me to shell out many thousands of pounds in licensing fees. You're not the first person to comment on this though so I will be giving it some thought
@rogerthompson1622
@rogerthompson1622 2 жыл бұрын
@@faithfulhistory thanks for your reply, I understand your situation.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Roger - not sure if you'll read this but I wanted to let you know that, thanks to your feedback I spurred myself to get in touch with some contacts and my friends at the English Symphony Orchestra have agreed to provide me with all of the Elgar music I need, license free! So I'll be re-editing a new version soon and uploading to the channel.
@rogerthompson1622
@rogerthompson1622 2 жыл бұрын
@@faithfulhistory thanks for the reply. I’m glad to hear that my (well meant) comment has yielded fruit for you, I look forward to seeing/hearing the new version. I am a Worcester boy but have spent the last fifty years in Oz. My sister lives not far from Elgar’s birthplace and whenever I’m back in Worcester I always have a tramp over his (and my) beloved Malvern Hills listening to his beautiful music on the iPod.
@TheTraveller20081
@TheTraveller20081 2 жыл бұрын
I rather like the scratchy old music. It's his music as he would have heard it when played on records at home.
@wayneperkins622
@wayneperkins622 2 жыл бұрын
Labour of love, well done!
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wayne!
@feralfoods
@feralfoods 2 жыл бұрын
what a great documentary. this is certainly one of the golden ages of history & archaeology.
@faithfulhistory
@faithfulhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!