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@ZozobraDoom
@ZozobraDoom 5 күн бұрын
did you ever finish this? I have a problem where I need something in place of a pump to produce suck at reasonable static pressure and something like this might be the ticket
@jamespray
@jamespray 4 күн бұрын
Sadly, these were a disappointment because the impellers just don't spin fast enough to build much static (and the noise isn't great, either). Turns out a WS7040 does a much better job and does it in a tiny package by comparison. Oh, well, that's experiments for you!
@ZozobraDoom
@ZozobraDoom 4 күн бұрын
@@jamespray Ah that's a shame. I could really do with something compact that can achieve 0.5-2 LPM with good static pressure that isn't a conventional pump as they would need an inline HEPA filter so it becomes expensive quickly.
@jamespray
@jamespray 4 күн бұрын
@@ZozobraDoom You really have to look at the specs vs your requirements in these decisions ... while it depends on what you mean by "good static", there's probably nothing reasonable in the centrifugal compressor space that has such low flow at any meaningful static rating. That is really the realm of positive displacement designs. My impeller-based compressors worked around 9-15 CFM but only 0.075-0.15 PSI, which really makes them more blowers than compressors (though I don't think there's a hard definition of what's what).
@therealbasstard
@therealbasstard 11 күн бұрын
interesteing video, thank you! what is the benefit of adding the thickness before finishing the form?
@axelr.8766
@axelr.8766 15 күн бұрын
Impressive engineering!
@PhotoshopVT
@PhotoshopVT 17 күн бұрын
Next step, make the whole compressor n head handheld and portable, give dyson a run for their money
@Ersteller
@Ersteller 19 күн бұрын
I can feel your pain. For those cases at 10:00 I have a slow curing epoxy. ;)
@jamespray
@jamespray 14 күн бұрын
If I do another project at this level of complexity, I will DEFINITELY not skip slow-cure epoxy, lol!
@Ersteller
@Ersteller 14 күн бұрын
​@@jamespray well if you like carbon, next time you could go all in and print the compression mold for a forged carbon fibre part. I dont know anything that could be stronger stiffer and lighter than that. Anyway, I really like the video and that you included your engeneering struggles.
@PureRushXevus
@PureRushXevus 24 күн бұрын
Found this video linked on a reddit post when I googled "blender fan duct narrow" and didn't expect to watch the entire thing right away at all, very good job on editing and keeping it informative without padding out the video to 40 minutes lol also thanks for linking the music in the intro, also didn't expect to find a banger in a video about ducts xD
@jamespray
@jamespray 24 күн бұрын
You're welcome! It's the worst when you hear a good song in a video and there's no dang credits. Like the one midway through the Dakar 2018 Cars video. Such a banger and I'll never know where to find it
@PureRushXevus
@PureRushXevus 24 күн бұрын
@@jamespray you talking about "Best Of Car - Dakar 2018" ? I just tried using shazam for like 10 minutes, and got 4 different songs that were wrong :(
@jamespray
@jamespray 24 күн бұрын
@@PureRushXevus Yeah, that's the video. The song that cuts in at 2:30. Gosh I want that track!
@brianadams7903
@brianadams7903 25 күн бұрын
I printed that FL-Sun SR duct! glad to "meet" the guy who designed it!
@jamespray
@jamespray 25 күн бұрын
I haven't done anything for the SR, but it's probably a design space with similar constraints, so I could see such a duct looking similar to this one. The only handles you'll see my designs under (legitimately) are this one, the one in the Discord sequences here, and Kiolia.
@napaisava
@napaisava 29 күн бұрын
Hey! Bestie! You likely can use a flexible shaft to drive such, making the motor be even further away. Look at RC boat flexible shaft for off the shelf parts. But its used in foredom shafts and whatnot, massive torque with zero backlash and a flexible system to drive such
@jamespray
@jamespray 29 күн бұрын
I have tried a flex shaft with the Nimble in the past, and while it makes mounting and stuff much easier, extrusion quality goes out the window. Past a certain, very small amount of bend/misalignment, Flex shafts cause periodic over/under extrusion because they aren't equivalent to CV drives. As soon as I traced my horrific woodgrain to the flex shaft, that whole setup went in a box and I never looked back
@jerrymk6846
@jerrymk6846 Ай бұрын
How did the IGUS spherical bearings held up? Why were they replaced, and what bearings are you using now? I have trouble finding a good joint solution for my delta build. Is it just those brass things pressed into nylon joints? I think they have M3 or M4 threads on the nylon piece.
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
The IGUS joints didn't have the preload necessary for delta joints, and were just too sloppy ... though that may have just been my implementation, which pins the joints on rods instead of compressing them with mounting screws. I currently use ball joints from MP Jet, which are great quality, properly preloaded, and showing no signs of wear so far.
@jerrymk6846
@jerrymk6846 Ай бұрын
@@jamespray Thanks, that's great to know, as I did consider buying a set for testing, but... one set of 12 is like 50USD and that's not a small amount. Have you tried adding springs to pull the two rods together to take away the slop? That doesn't fix it's inaccuracy though
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
@@jerrymk6846 Springing the arms together is a bad bandaid that only wears the joints out faster (I did try it with the IGUS joints, but the print quality improvement was marginal except at very low speeds -- enough to use them to print the next iteration for the Jets, but nothing I'd want to run long-term). Also, NO, the MP Jets are actually really affordable -- they come in sets of 6, which isn't necessarily clear from the listings. I know somebody who thought he was getting 24 and bought 144 I would buy 3 packs to have 18 so I could be extra-picky about picking 12 for a new set of arms.
@jerrymk6846
@jerrymk6846 Ай бұрын
@@jamespray No no, I know MP Jets one are cheap, and so does those ball joints for RC car models with nylon housing (or alu) and brass ball. I mean the IGUS ones are not cheap, and a set of 12 will run me 50USD, so I guess... thank you a lot for saving me from buying them, to find out that they are not suitable for the job. I did see IGUS sells Delta robot kits, so I'd assume it would be good for it...
@jerrymk6846
@jerrymk6846 Ай бұрын
@@jamespray And you mentioned that springs make them wear out faster, what's your view on the half-sphere plastic sockets that ride on stainless bearing balls, with only the springs holding it on. I know that FLSUN has been using this type for quite a while, and is also quite common in the delta space.
@_Nashtii
@_Nashtii Ай бұрын
Is there any chance you’ll upload the “heavy” version that is printed and doesn’t use carbon fiber rods? It is exactly what I’m looking for on my delta! Either way, excellent job!
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
I might, but the BOM is still pretty long, and currently I don't have an option that doesn't depend on a Nimble stepper bracket (which isn't a thing you can just buy anymore). If I do update the drive end to not use the bracket, I'd be more likely to share the heavy one :)
@_Nashtii
@_Nashtii Ай бұрын
@@jamespray Thank you so much for your reply! Do you have a tip/coffee link? I would like to support you!
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
@@_Nashtii I didn't, but now I do, since you asked! Cheers! (Added a link to the description)
@thejoshmoss
@thejoshmoss Ай бұрын
I think the design is beautiful and that counts for something. I'm wondering if you could have done the assembly process with slower epoxy or maybe even CA glue for less stress. I really enjoy DIY adventures where you must first write your own instructions
@MHSDankusPotatus
@MHSDankusPotatus Ай бұрын
W recommendation on KZbin's part. Subbed
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
🤜🌟🤛
@MrHeHim
@MrHeHim Ай бұрын
Awesome video!! i personally treat it like a game and don't look for advice and just figure it out myself, then i go look for cheat codes after i "beat the game" 😅 TONS of great cheat codes here. The 11 degree grade is something i wasn't ware of, but i did "naturally" find certain things on my own, like the curves are less restrictive when C shaped and not cupped and a little backpressure/resistance in the ducting helps even the air flow to multiple exits. But im sure there's better ways, just that the blowers typically have cupped in blades to accelerate the air flow that tends to push the air to one side. My guess if the fins where straight then the air flow would be even coming out.
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you got something out of it! The uneven airflow coming out of blowers is a result of the air trying to flow outward all the way around the impeller and getting accelerated around the housing wall as a result. Blowers can actually have forward swept, straight, or backward swept vanes, without changing that aspect; the vane direction has other implications like the balance of static pressure vs CFM (straight vanes also accumulate less dust over time).
@olafmarzocchi6194
@olafmarzocchi6194 Ай бұрын
The feat is not about thinking it, it's using Sketchup. If you go for unnecessarily good, wouldn't the first step to get an actual CAD software?
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
Great question! It's *almost* like SketchUp doesn't hold me back, even though it's not "actual CAD software". Weird (Oh, and don't tell the DIY Perks guy; he's a SketchUpper, too)
@GuardianLords
@GuardianLords Ай бұрын
Engineering micro optimization disorder. I didn't know there was a disorder name for people like me. Thank you, I will now decrease the weight of my 30.2g drone by 0.078g by removing excess solder from the battery connectors.
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
Welcome to the club! Don't forget narrower tape, thinner zip ties, and speed holes in the standoffs 🤣
@Scrogan
@Scrogan Ай бұрын
Are you using input shaping too? Or just relying on the tool head being really light and rigid?
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
I do use input shaping for high-accel printing, but CarbonShrike doesn't really need it below about 10k and I have done a 100k ringing test without IS that didn't look bad at all. It's not that there is no ringing, it's just that the amplitude is extremely low due to the minimized mass.
@goldenfox334
@goldenfox334 Ай бұрын
what if i use the extruder from 3d printer pens lol.
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
I press X to doubt, but hey, you can always try it!
@Wassermelonenbaum
@Wassermelonenbaum Ай бұрын
Fantastic video, but please turn the music down a lot. I keep having to turn it down and your voice up :/
@ciousli
@ciousli Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the good old "I accidentally joined the military industrial complex"-type project.
@xcubetech2782
@xcubetech2782 Ай бұрын
Ive never been this nervous in watching a technical related video
@xcubetech2782
@xcubetech2782 Ай бұрын
especially de-scaffolding part
@wilkimhernandez
@wilkimhernandez Ай бұрын
The German of extruders
@readdaily5680
@readdaily5680 Ай бұрын
Will you do the design tutorial as well?
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'm not currently planning any new tutorials...
@ramirescoms
@ramirescoms Ай бұрын
I’m just missing the maximum capable volumetric flow 🤔
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
The setup shown (with the Pico hybrid hot end) is very hot end-limited and good for burst flow of about 20 cubic, but only ~12 sustained. I am testing something new and much better now, and the extruder is still not the limiting factor. More details will come out eventually, probably
@dave882
@dave882 Ай бұрын
At least you knew this was stupid.
@MoAvW
@MoAvW Ай бұрын
Insane assembly for weight saving. Good Job! And appreciate your protective measures cutting composites. I just don't understand why folks still swear by delta type printers.
@edumaker-alexgibson
@edumaker-alexgibson Ай бұрын
You absolute madman. I love it.
@ETBCOR
@ETBCOR Ай бұрын
Yoooo, I NEED that track at 6:43, what is it?? great video btw:)
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
It's Arya, borne & Lynzz - Need U [NCS Release], linked in the description music credits 🙂
@pmally2006
@pmally2006 Ай бұрын
Those are the worst two tools for doing that. Omg what a nightmare
@VerySpecificlyUnspecific
@VerySpecificlyUnspecific Ай бұрын
I know that using 5 minute epoxy is a time saver, but is there any other benefit compared to using a longer set epoxy to lower the stress? i don't deal with epoxy much so I don't know
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
Mostly just availability. I can drive to the hardware store and restock my 5-minute epoxy in 15 minutes, whereas I'd have to do actual research and order longer-curing stuff online and wait til tomorrow or next day! It's really no big deal for less critical work (or smaller glueups, say 1-2 pieces per like when gluing delta arms), but it's, well, a poor excuse with something like this 😅
@saltwaterrook4638
@saltwaterrook4638 Ай бұрын
But the input shaper graphs! 😂
@mattweger437
@mattweger437 Ай бұрын
Use a friend with a multi material print and soluble pla
@mattweger437
@mattweger437 Ай бұрын
Never do eod
@_Richard_F___
@_Richard_F___ Ай бұрын
If you use a reamer after you drill the holes, you'll get an accurate fit 😁 . An amazing job , well done
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
Thank you! The CF rods themselves are actually pretty good reamers, being slightly abrasive. I chased every drilling pass with CF, but I cut out a LOT of that process for the sake of time, lol.
@_Richard_F___
@_Richard_F___ Ай бұрын
@@jamespray 👍
@FUKTxProductions
@FUKTxProductions Ай бұрын
dude a shot of whiskey helps with the hand shakes/nerves
@ats1995
@ats1995 Ай бұрын
Engineering Micro-Optimization: yeah totally, but for manufacturing is something to optimize for, so for me all that assembly would be a deal breaker. Really cool stuff tho!
@alexjaxon9928
@alexjaxon9928 Ай бұрын
oh wow, never considered using CF light that. if it were all plastic how much would it weigh?
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
5-6g more, I think. Not much by itself, but it was the only way to drive the weight substantially below 40g once I figured out the hardware reductions. This is what I mean about capturing that "last 1%" -- it's often easy to get "so far", and then pushing farther gets much harder. I should mention, though, that this was not a great part for doing this kind of CF work. When you can just have a simple truss with a few pieces of CF, it's really slick and straightforward!
@TheHDreality
@TheHDreality Ай бұрын
My fiancée's a professional musician who has to have her hands under control in stressful situations. Some advice: Take a deep breath in, then let it out very slowly. Put a cold pack on the back of your neck. Splash cold water on your face to trigger the mammalian dive reflex (lower heart rate and stress response) I love the build. If it's not a stupid question, I've never used a delta printer, how do you ensure the distance between your new extruder head at the print nozzle stays constant? is it just a shorter Bowden tube between them? And if so how do you prevent the bend in that tube when the print head is close to the edges of the print bed from affecting your extrusion rate?
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice -- I'll have to try triggering the dive reflex next time! And no, not a stupid question. It is linked to the print head by a short bowden tube, yes, but I also sheath the bowden in Kevlar cable mesh anchored to the print head and extruder (bypassing the PTFE fittings). This is extremely effective at eliminating stretch from the equation. As for the bend, even at extreme bed edge, it's not as severe as one might imagine without testing (this was a big part of why the Nimble prototype ever existed). Maybe 15-20 degrees at most, measured from vertical, spread over 3-4cm of bowden tube. So far as I can tell, it has no appreciable impact on the extrusion rate. That's not to say it's perfect, but most of what I'd like to improve from here is in the overall mass and the damping/spring rate of the drive end and flying gantry ... it never ends!
@jonathanvoshell7914
@jonathanvoshell7914 Ай бұрын
I am totally going to put that excel chart for mass percentage per parts idea in the back of my mind for safe keeping.
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
It's a super-helpful development resource to know what things weigh. I have it tied to a list I've slowly compiled by putting every hardware item I buy on a scale
@guerrillaradio9953
@guerrillaradio9953 Ай бұрын
Engineering Micro-Optimizers Anonymous: *clears throat* "My name is Tyler, and I'm a micro-optimizer," Everyone: "Hi, Tyler" Me: "I've been working on the same 2 projects for the last 8 and 11 years, respectively, and barely have anything done because of my disease, and refusal to accept it, and SEVERE scope creep"
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
"Thanks for sharing, Tyler. I think we've all been there. Let's recite THE PRINCIPLES, shall we? Good enough is GOOD ENOUGH! MAKE -- A -- LIST! Define dependencies! Close it out or close it down! Saying NO to yourself is LOVING yourself! ... Excellent, everybody. Who's next?"
@adrasx6999
@adrasx6999 Ай бұрын
Can't wait to see the 5 minute benchy :)
@aronjaeger
@aronjaeger Ай бұрын
you're a freaking legend 😂
@JustinShaw
@JustinShaw Ай бұрын
Wow. Very awesome build, and fun to watch. Might consider holding the text on the screen a bit longer for us slow readers. Thanks for the vid
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! It's tough to balance pacing with cramming in everything I'd like to communicate, sometimes. Or most of the times
@theotherhive
@theotherhive Ай бұрын
i wanna make one so bad ???
@theotherhive
@theotherhive Ай бұрын
bro pls dont make me have to recreate this design
@theotherhive
@theotherhive Ай бұрын
ill pay for your design
@JTCF
@JTCF Ай бұрын
This guy is building a carbon fiber scaffold to get a 1% gain and here I am messing around with a $50 printer that sucks in it's print quality
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
Messing around with a printer that sucks is the first step to messing around with a printer that doesn't suck!
@spayrex_
@spayrex_ Ай бұрын
all that and we dont see how this thing yeets with 2000mm/s? i got scammed ahaha
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
You did -- in the "metal" clips (full disclosure, 1900x90k used in those clips, but it's moved faster)! It's just really hard to catch on camera so I put dwells between the moves 😅 If you mean moving that fast with the new extruder, I can't currently film that because of some NDA parts now on the machine, but the day will come eventually ...
@spayrex_
@spayrex_ Ай бұрын
@@jamespray my bad, i guess i wasnt paying enough attention watching while desining parts 😂
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
@@spayrex_ lol, happens to me too. No worries! I have a couple of motion testing videos on the channel too, although they're older and don't showcase the full capabilities of the current fully armed and operation battle station I actually haven't done a full testing suite in a while because it's absolutely terrifying to skip steps at these speeds!
@martonlerant5672
@martonlerant5672 Ай бұрын
...as far as lofting goes, if you are using something like blender, you can do a more precisely narrowing organic shaped duct, by sweeping along a curve.
@PureRushXevus
@PureRushXevus 24 күн бұрын
thanks for the tip, I was trying to get a good result with a screw modifier and adjusting the origin but wasn't getting anywhere. using a bezier curve makes a lot of sense
@Just_crazy_shit
@Just_crazy_shit Ай бұрын
Bro was doing surgery
@tron11751
@tron11751 Ай бұрын
been using sketchup since i was 12 its amazing software, i believe i just reached its limits and plasticity 3d filed the gap well. amazing video and great explinations keep at it!
@jamespray
@jamespray Ай бұрын
@SebasTian-od7oz
@SebasTian-od7oz Ай бұрын
This might give you even more weird ideas regarding how to move air 😏 "Building the World's Weirdest Fan": kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWi8aHd-m9R5hc0si=bp5SVTw5DJbUuo01&t=930 Just build a huge, spindle driven syringe 💉for you air supply 😅 Way more efficient and silent than any compressor.
@SebasTian-od7oz
@SebasTian-od7oz Ай бұрын
Seeing that tiny extruder next to those huge CPAP tubes makes me wonder how much they weigh that print head down...😏 Since tubes should be stabilizing themselves through positive pressure anyway (like a long balloon)... how about using thinner walled tubes? I mean a LOT thinner. Imagine one of the sturdier types of trash bags. Cut out a long stripe and weld the edges together to get a tube (borrow wife's iron 😂). Or just buy a similar thin walled tube if it exists. That thing then inflates under pressure and voilà, delivers the same air volume for a fraction of the weight. At least that's how easy it plays out in my head 😅 Next up is replacing the wires with enameled copper wire and using aerogel as hotend insulation 🤣