i know I am late to this conversation, but is there a possible connection between The Garden in Destiny and the garden mentioned in the Marathon Infinity terminal?

This game meant so much to me. My parents couldn’t/wouldn’t get many games and this was always my favorite in my slim selection. She’s so cool.

The game is really nice, my only complaint is the contrasting art. The cover art is awesome, the animation art is nice but make me question if that is the same Konoko as the cover art, and lastly the still image art in game which is serviceable but makes me wonder if they have 3 different artist for this game.

I loved this game so much and still do!!! So many good memories :) and the music soundtracks are phenomenal!

I can honestly say MYTH II was one of the best games ive EVER played, especially online.. I went by the name "champion" 😂😂 aahh the days man.. the WW2 plugin changed my life for sure 😂

I really wish someone could pick the brains of some of the old Bungie crew and get some insight on this more Marathon Aligned version of Halo Combat Evolved that was clearly in the works during the late 90s. The more I come to learn about Marathon and Halo’s origins, the more I come to realize that the Halo we received is a false shadow of what it possibly could’ve been. This hypothetical Halo Prime could’ve had some truly mind breaking story beats. Stuff that could rival Marathon Infinity. It’d be truly incredible to bring this vision of Halo to life. Expand further on this recurring hero concept, go all in on a truly trans-cosmic scale and go into more detail on that borderline theological concept of the beings in the Garden at the Beginning of the World (not the one in Genesis as Marathon so comically explains). The more I think about it and after writing this down, the more I’m starting to think that was the intention behind Destiny. I’m going to have to cut this thought line here before it gets too absurd. In any case I’m obsessed with what could’ve been when it comes to Marathon and I feel mild annoyance when I remember we’re getting a new Marathon that’s an extraction shooter with no singleplayer elements.

great explanation. Ty

06:18 "Wyrd" is Anglo Saxon not Irish

2:07 this is CHEATING! Konoko doesn't know this move yet (not in Biolabs)

So it's from this theory that Neal Asher took inspiration for his Transformation Trilogy!

This video just put a lot of what I'm researching and decoding into perspective. I've put some major links together going back to Marathon and PiD. The Jaro/Ark/Vex link is insane. My hats off too you for this. This is the kind of stuff I've been wrapped up into since I started playing Halo. I had no idea about Marathon until years and years later. Let alone the deep story. Its not easy to decode Bungies games and their stories. I compare it to Stanley Kubrick films, that ironically Bungies games pay a strong homage to. Something that never clicked until now was this connection between the Vex and "Guardians." I'll explain that in a moment. The huge sync here is Panoptes, The Infinite Mind and how he actually looks like the Guardians we see in Halo 5. Two words that keep coming back are BEYOND & INFINTY (yes the Buzz Lightyear kind). Now I just saw this lore transcription from D2 a few days ago. The name immediately stood out to me. Besides the obvious dark future reference's I hadn't exactly caught what was being implied here. Especially with the title of the mission. I thought there would be more here. Your 4 year old video had already pieced it together lol. >>www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/beyond-infinity<< Panoptes is a "Guardian". And not just a Halo 5 kinda "Guardian". Don't you think its a little weird D1 came out just 1 year before Halo 5? And the first mission in Halo 5 is called Osiris? Osiris who runs around the Infinite Forest, traveling timelines and fighting The Vex. In Greek Mythology Argus Panoptes is the Watcher of the nymph Io. He is killed by Hermes (Mercury). "And set a watcher upon her, great and strong Argus, who with four eyes looks every way. And the goddess stirred in him unwearying strength: sleep never fell upon his eyes; but he kept sure watch always." "Another Whisper, sir. Near Io." -Cortana, Halo 2 The first place we go after the cutscene in the mission Beyond Infinity to find Panoptes is Io. The word guardian means watcher. One who watches the dead. Protects over them. Its rooted right back into the Watchers from the Old Testament. Guardians, Angels. Guardian Angels. Gardeners. They came from "The Garden" -guardian (n.) "one who guards," early 14c., garden; early 15c., gardein, from Anglo-French gardein (late 13c.), Old French gardien "keeper, custodian," earlier guarden, from Frankish *warding-, from the Germanic source of guard (v.). Specific legal sense is from 1510s. Guardian angel is from 1630s. -watch (v.) Old English wæccan "keep watch, be awake," from Proto-Germanic *wakjan, from PIE root *weg- "to be strong, be lively." Essentially the same word as Old English wacian "be or remain awake" (see wake (v.)); perhaps a Northumbrian form of it. Meaning "be vigilant" is from c. 1200. That of "to guard (someone or some place), stand guard" is late 14c. Sense of "to observe, keep under observance" is mid-15c. (wæccan/wakjan= W'rkncacnter/Dreaming God/Traveler kind vibes) Here's a lore tab called Brass Gardeners from the Inspiral lore book: >www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/brass-gardeners< With the end of Act II of Echoes, and with this new information, I started to put this idea together that our guardian at some points dies, yes, we know this. But how do we fit back into the puzzle afterwards? What role does the Vex and Elsie Bray still have to play from the original story beat. And most Importantly, why us? How do the guardians from these two universes as well as Marathon combine? I think we are the Vex. Pure speculation here but at some point we die and become part of the collective. And are born again without the need for a ghost to revive us and with no boundaries to our powers (cough D3. sorry something in my throat.) We are the Last Knife. The blade that cuts through time and space. We are the sword. The hand that carries out the sword logic. We become the very thing we end up fighting. The Vex, Durandal, The Guardians. Are we the Gardener, The Winnower. Both or neither? Something else? The Sword/Knife? Your video is the cherry on top of this little theory. I'll you with one more lore entry from Inspiral: Winnowing A dream of a friendly conversation with someone impossible to see, cloaked in shadows. It leaves behind an impossible data fragment to mark its passing. Here is what a flower knows. (The fact that a flower may know anything is a conceit that will have to be accepted as metaphor, but to constantly qualify into perfect precision wears thin, does it not? So, here is what a collection of chloroplasts and pigment can know.) The direction of the sun. The presence of the rain. The tangle of the roots. The distress of another plant. The hands of the gardener, whether they prune or transplant or crush. A flower cannot know much else. But the reality of the garden is vast and wild. A flower knows not the fence; a flower knows not the footpath. And yet there is an infinite cosmic garden, which is not any less real simply because the flower cannot possibly comprehend it… Let us try this again. Stop me if you've heard this one: A gardener and a winnower sit down to play a game outside of time and creation. Yes? Yes. Then we're agreed. The metaphor stands. Let us iterate. A gardener and a winnower set out their chairs and play a game of flowers. The flowers know only that they grow or wither, struggle or flourish. Sometimes, they are touched by one hand or the other, and that influence is the closest they will know of the divine. A flower and a flower spread their leaves to the sun above. (Remember that the sun is also a metaphor: a thing said beautifully, winnowed down to poetry, when the truth is too vast to put in words at all.) They jostle for space, each competing to be the pinnacle of their shape. One flourishes. One withers. Is it the fault of the flower or the fault of its position? A gardener and a winnower sit down to play a game called Possibility. This is a game about a garden, which is to say that it is also a game about flowers, just as a game about a living being must also be a game about organs and bacteria. A gardener and a winnower collaborate to create a protein. Whose hand is it in the design, that shortens one life to extend the rest? It is the winnower that discovers the first knife, but it is not done without the gardener. This, too, is a tradition: a knife does not come to exist without something that must be cut. A woody stem, a colored petal, a vital vessel. The first victims of the blade. All of these are true. All of these are false, for metaphor simplifies as the knife does. It pares incalculable concepts into shapes your wrinkly little brains can comprehend. The weight of billions and the simple curve of a planet give you pause, and how then are you to be expected to grasp the forces that created your nth-removed creator? So the stories woven with utmost delicacy in and around the falsehoods are, after it all, true. There was never any option for the knife to not exist in the garden: it was only ever a matter of time and opportunity. And as for the shape of the knife itself- No. That is enough. I will tell you of gardens. They are domesticated things, made in a form. As soon as something is called a garden, it is shaped. The plants require the hand of a gardener, for they have become weak and dependent on tender care. They require the hand of a winnower, to cut away the dross, for they are too incapable to do it themselves. In absence of a hand, either the flowers themselves must rise up to wield the knife, or the garden will resolve to meaningless wilderness. You will say, "But there are plants that can walk! There are seeds that must be scorched by fire to know growth! Existence is more complex than a simple dichotomy between growth and withering, and there is more in heaven and on earth than is dreamt of in this philosophy!" And I will tell you, clearly: There can be no gardens without knives.

"Then i have a lesson for you as well! Hahahah" Explodes

4:56 Possibly the first or second miscommunication between the ancient humans and the forerunners... Had the latter only knew that the Humans was not invading but RUNNING!

I don’t remember where I heard this, might have been the ign speedrun with devs, but they mentioned how the name for the chapter ‘two betrayals’ doesn’t make sense since there was no second betrayals. Then continuing to say how or hint how Cortana had some shared ai with durandel. I may be wrong with some things but I remember something of the sort.

Pfhor are mix between the goa’uld and covenant.

What was the music used in the background of the video specifically around the 8-9 minute mark? I love it

D2 player here, who has recently started the first dive into Marathon. I know I shouldn't be grabbing spoilers like this. But the lore is just so awesome, man. Been soaking up all I can

Myth and Myth 2 will always be the GOAT

I swear to God, if I see a Marathon reference anywhere in this game I'm going to do a flip...

The garden before the universe sounds like the black garden in destiny

GRIFFFFFFFITH!

We stand, fight, and call out to our own. Semper Fi

I wonder how old was she

We went from this to master cheeks, oh what a world

Is this part of the real story or not?

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Fact: despite the hatred between ODST's and Spartans their deaths still affected them the same as any other UNSC soldier. The loss of a Spartan-II is more demoralizing than watching a planet get glassed.

animation isnt 4k

I want a live action show that's like Band of Brothers but it's ODST's

Babe wake up, new Drinniol lore video just dropped

2:33 Never understood how killing him would sever the supply line. Hed just get replaced by another guy.

Thank God this is free on KZbin Movies so I don’t have to watch someone pretty much steal content an upload 80 different parts

Why do you quote from 343i material in the description to try to figure out Bungie canon? That's like taking a 5 year old's crayon scribbles and trying to use them to make sense of Van Gogh.

I clicked the like button for the seven hundredth time. 7

cal was everything Spartans we're meant to be. the absolute best.

Actually, It's easy to kill soulblighter. The devs decided to make his character classified as undead at some point, so just heal him with a journeyman, and he'll stun, then eventually instadie.

Halsely? You added an l to the name. Its Halsey.

That anime hair is not regulation jumper! Find a haircut or find an airlock this instant!

Oooh I hate this old cold lonely place!

Cal’s river battle with the Brute Chieftain is how all Spartan 2’s should be able to handle Brutes.

i dont even have time to explain the wizard on the moon

It’s not surprising ODST didn’t have the best relation with Spartans. John as a kid killed ODST in a weight room during a fight lol.

5:10 can anyone tell me what track this is? I’ve heard it only so many times but I’ve never been able to find the title.

Gravemind from Halo, and Sovereign from Mass Effect tie for most disturbing quotes in gaming history. Two vast, unknowable, incomprehensible beings. One of steel, and one of flesh.

Senior year, I used to play this game every Friday night after school. I still suck

God dame right! ODST till I die Oorah!

Bungo needs the rights of oni and myth backkk. They could do so much with those ips (more then the nothingness from then in recent years)

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That art style is too cartoony/weird, very out of place for halo, and the quality of most of these episodes seems very cheap. They should have spent more money for better animation studios, it’s not like weren’t flush with cash.

6:21 “But you were dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won. A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand. You follow the path, fitting into an infinite pattern. Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild. Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.”