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@saraschieve Күн бұрын
I'm originally from West Chicago and by coincidence live currently in South Saint Paul. Walking distance from the last operational remains of the CGW!
@BeHistoric 23 сағат бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! Wow! As we have not yet visited the former CGW sites in St Paul, what remains there?
@mack2192 2 күн бұрын
AI pictures will distort history
@BeHistoric 23 сағат бұрын
In our experience of seeking out and researching images to accompany the information provided in our videos , we have found that virtually all rendered images, whether created by humans or AI, contain errors or bias. As AI models are trained on human generated images, it is not surprising that AI generated images are likewise flawed. We use historric photographs or contemporary images wherever possible. But if these do not exist, we use 3D modeling and AI generated images as a means of approximating what is being described. We label all AI generated images as such (lower right hand corner), so there should be no confusion as to what is an AI generated image versus those that are not.
@davidhochstetter6797 2 күн бұрын
Very nice train museum and they where great with the grandkids.
@BeHistoric 23 сағат бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! Indeed, it's a fascinating place to visit - and the people there, the Valley Model Railroad Association, are as nice as can be.
@denniskoppo4259 3 күн бұрын
Wonder if you are considering, or have done anything on the Morton estate, current location of the Morton Arboretum.
@BeHistoric 23 сағат бұрын
That's a very interesting idea, to do a similar work related to Joy Morton and his large estate to the west of Peabody's estate. We did touch on Morton's estate in the video "Native American Sites of the Chicago Region - Bonaparte", as a significant Potawatomi village site was once situated just to the south of the Thornhill mansion alongs the banks of the East Branch of the DuPage River. Thanks for the suggestion - and thanks too for watching and commenting!
@ExploringAlabama 4 күн бұрын
Native Americans, Indigenous Peoples, First Nation Peoples...I'm not trying to be rude at all, but research is important. I've spent significant time with the Mississippi band of Choctaw Indians and several other bands of Indians. I've emailed and talked with several other tribes of Indians over the years simply asking one question: Do YOU prefer to be called Indian, or Native, Indigenous, First? The answer is always the same: Our ancestors were called Indians, that's what we prefer. To bring it a little closer to home, my wife is Pamunkey Indian Tribe. Her dad is a member of the Tribe in Georgia. Why do I share this info? It's so "white" and "pc" to use all those outdated terms due to fear of stepping on someone's feelings. The problem for many pc peeps is they are even afraid to ask, or have no idea how to address anyone that is not white, and feel racist to even ask. Final thought: I've had many Indians say they do not want to be called something that a white woman made up to look good when talking to crowds of people on TV i.e. native American, indigenous, or first nation. I'm only speaking for American Indians, not indigenous peeps in other countries. Yes, i know what the word means. But we as Americans, are scared to learn bc we've whitewashed ourselves with fear of what we believe might be offensive when it is really a ploy to look good and appear educated.
@BeHistoric 3 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for watching and for the thoughtful comment. We were always aware that the terms would be used would not be satisfactory to all - as the Native/Indigenous/First/Indian community is large, diverse, and has varying points of view. The term "Indian" was once considered somewhat taboo as it was both wrong (based on Columbus's mistaken view that he had reached India) and a name given to them by Europeans. Then Native American became popular, then Indigenous, then First Nation. And of course, there is no unanimity on this topic, across all Native/Indigenous/First/Indians, at least, that we are aware of. Others have stated that we need to use the term, First Nation, at all times. For our own part, we try to use all the terms in our videos, although we have shied away from "Indian" as we've been told by others that this is not a good term to use. However, based upon your comment, we'll try to give that term more use in the coming videos. Thank you again for the comment and additional information and perspective. That is always helpful!
@ExploringAlabama 3 күн бұрын
@@BeHistoric Maybe consider reaching out to different Indian Tribes though email around the US. You'll immediately see that the website titles usually have the "....tribe of Indians" in it. Thanks for the reply. I enjoy your content
@LisaHessenius 4 күн бұрын
❤ this! Sent it my family, recognize the names because I grew up in this area.
@BeHistoric 4 күн бұрын
Very glad that you enjoyed this video! Thank you for watching and for sharing!
@LisaHessenius 4 күн бұрын
Went to German Valley Gradeschool
@LisaHessenius 4 күн бұрын
Montague Road was the main road
@majorleaguemodelsbystevewo9451 7 күн бұрын
Great video!!
@BeHistoric 6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for watching - we appreciate the support and kind words!
@Jimmyrey6857 7 күн бұрын
Please do one on Billy Caldwell :)
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for the suggestion! We will look into that!
@Jimmyrey6857 7 күн бұрын
So fun, great story. Fellow Chicagoan who was also interested in that map when I first saw it :)
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for watching and for taking the time to comment! Glad that you found it interesting!
@ryanthoroman3293 7 күн бұрын
Chicago is built on a swamp.Thats why they are constantly pumping water out of the sewers.
@nothing-b2n 8 күн бұрын
They erased it to hide canaanite origins
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Interesting comment - thanks for watching!
@241sail6 8 күн бұрын
I would trust Sharf's description of an area before I would trust Academia's version.
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. We understand what you are saying. One the other hand, consider that we have learned so much more since the early days of the antiquarians. Archeologists have uncovered many more sites - and dating is much more accurate and precise. The present day picture of both pre-contact and post-contact cultures is much richer than antiquarians such as Albert could have imagined. Our view is that Scharf and others gave us a very good foundation and starting point - and subsequent generations have built upon it. Thank you again!
@christopherrudolph8459 8 күн бұрын
That's an expression you don't hear anymore: "have your head examined." Well spoken.
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Indeed! In this case, it was literally the truth. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@paulezycom 8 күн бұрын
Opening scene, I grew up in the farm house just to your left, West off South Prairie Rd Oregon Il. There is a large boulder with an inscription about the Driscoll Brothers just to the north inside the tree line.
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for commenting and sharing! Yes, we know exactly where that is. The few times we visited, it appeared that the house was not occupied. We knocked on a few doors of houses nearby this field, but no one answered unfortunately. We did walk back and film the stone/boulder as you described. Very interesting monument to the father and son who were killed there. Thanks again!
@tinkerstrade3553 8 күн бұрын
An interesting channel to show up in my feed. I too enjoy cartography and hitory, as I metal detect as a hobby. Even though the Chicago area is too far afield for me, at 70+, to hunt, it is always nice to see the past preserved. Sometimes it seems even the recent past, at least recent relative to my longevity, is slipping into oblivion. Trails, houses, whole rural communities I knew in my youth have disappeared under America's malls and 'burbs. And others to the tangles of overgrowth on lands having lost their bid to become farms, and are now only ruins. Maybe we need to collect and save a little more of our grandparents past. Look anew at what they did and why, and where they lived and socialized. Every road has a story.
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the thoughtful comment and for watching! Fully agreed that we need to spend more energy documenting the past - recording what was. It slips away too easily and is forgotten within one or two generations. Thanks again!
@mprest10 8 күн бұрын
Great video. Props to Albert for doing what he did.
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Thanks too for the support! Yes, he took on a rather noble task in the latter years of his life - and stuck to it. Very commendable. Thanks again!
@joyreinhardt7621 8 күн бұрын
Very enjoyable !
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for watching - we appreciate the support and kind words!
@joyreinhardt7621 8 күн бұрын
Sounds as though he had gotten the drawing instruction, in his younger years, even before he was married.
@BeHistoric 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and for the interesting comment! In his brief autobiography, between the entries for attending school in Chicago in 1865 and his start of the map in 1898, he states, "I was allways studious and <retiring?>, of a mechanical turn of mind, took some drawing lessons, ..." Difficult to say from this brief mention. We suggested the timeframe between 1865 and 1898, perhaps in the asylum, as this is when it was called to his mind in his autobiography. Art therapy came to the fore in the 20th century, but it was used in many more enlightened institutions prior to that - and so that is a possibility. Thanks again!
@mattmacpherson1033 8 күн бұрын
Often many alcoholics were put into asylums . Perhaps that is why?
@kentkearney6623 8 күн бұрын
Rode a Kozy bike rental to Chicago History Museum. Awesome Albert too.
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
That seems like a very Scharfian thing to do! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd 8 күн бұрын
Regarding your thumbnail Chicago as flat as a pancake it has no terrain like that you could at least use a proper picture
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. It is a fair comment, but we would point out that there are multiple river valleys heading west of Chicago, included in Scharf's maps, such the Des Plaines River Valley, the DuPage River Valley, and the Fox. His explorations also took him south to the Illinois Rivers and Kankakee Rivers. We are indeed flatlanders here in Illinois - but there are valleys and occasional hills nonetheless. Again, thanks for the comment!
@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd 8 күн бұрын
@BeHistoric i live by the des plaines river, flat as a cutting board. You have to get pretty far from Chicago to see anything like that, the Illinois or Mississippi river or Shawnee hills in southern Illinois. I've lived here 55 years and there's not a place in Illinois I haven't visited. I been everywhere man, i been everywhere.....
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
@@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd There are places along the Fox River that look much like this, especially heading into the valley. Your point is well taken, however.
@susiefairfield7218 8 күн бұрын
he liked cigars and hiking on trails .. my kind of guy
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
Indeed! Thanks for watching!
@bethbartlett5692 9 күн бұрын
Mainstream Archaeologists of the present era have no business judging early History Recorders, for in future History Books they will be referenced as the greatest Myth Makers in known History.
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@theshiv5288 9 күн бұрын
Strange that he made no mention of his wife and children in his autobiography but continued to live with them. Do you think it was for the privacy of his family ?
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! That is a very good question. We can only surmise what their relationship was like - but in 1907 at least, it was not "warm". Our sense of Albert Scharf is that he was a fairly laid back person - and may have simply gone with the flow, once he extricated himself from the asylum. It may be that he suffered from a nervous breakdown or depression following the death of his mother in 1885 - and perhaps there was a good reason for him to be treated at the asylum. We simply do not know as yet. It would be very interesting to be able to review the records of the Elgin Asylum to first confirm that he was a patient/resident - and to see why he was being confined there. Thanks again for the question and comment!
@lesjones5684 9 күн бұрын
Very interesting 🤔 ❤❤❤
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and for taking the time to comment! Very glad that you found the video interesting!
@lesjones5684 9 күн бұрын
Can you dig it 😅😅😅
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
Indeed!
@timtoms4117 9 күн бұрын
Your commitment to preserving history and research are to be applauded. Your works will help further generations understand where we were and perhaps learn for the future
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and for your continued support! We very much appreciate it!
@eyeOOsee 9 күн бұрын
Very interesting! I grew up in Chicago. I had no idea!
@BeHistoric 8 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment! Glad that you found the video informative!
@ThomasKnowlton-r3p 9 күн бұрын
More staged history
@1puppetbike 10 күн бұрын
5:35 How does this make sense?
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment/question. Are you referring to the Zouaves in general? Or to Albert Scharf being recruited into the Zouaves? Regarding the latter, many young men were drawn into this visually exciting and highly disciplined corps, which itself became a recruiting tool for both armies in the Civil War. Based on Scharf's autobiography, his involvement in the Zouaves was on the order of several months.
@Kittycats-s 10 күн бұрын
I think they are trying to make sense of the cigar making? Right?
@brianberthold3118 10 күн бұрын
so im re watching this for research on making a 3d print for HO gauge layout and looking at Price crossing has anybody thought of a 2nd smaller power house as that unknown addition .. those are some heavy duty vents on the roof ...
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
Yes, the addition was most definitely the new substation, once the original substation design had played itself out. Offhand, we would guess this addition to have been built in the 1930 to 1940 timeframe. We know that it was a substation as it had all of the earmarks in its internal structure, located on the 1st floor and a 2nd story balcony, with wiring channels or flues running up and down the north wall.
@brianberthold3118 10 күн бұрын
@@BeHistoric man i cant wait for that vid
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
@@brianberthold3118 Yes, we were very fortunate to have had access to this building for a few hours time earlier in 2024. We took as much video and photographs as possible while there. The basement was a particular challenge, as there was no electricity - but we brought our own battery based lighting - and so we think we captured much of it. The basement was especially fascinating, as it was relatively untouched, whereas the upper floors had been somewhat modified. We're hoping to publish that in the coming months.
@tsclly2377 10 күн бұрын
Most likely Scharf stay at the Elgin Asylum as an orderly most of the time. The Dollar$ amounts are rather small and probably were part of employment .. It is evident that the maps look to be made over plat maps and other surveys using drafting copying methods that he filled in, thus he has access to maps and other resources, probably through acquaintances.
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for the thoughtful reply and observations! And thanks too for watching the video and taking the time to comment! It is most appreciated! Your comment about Scharf being an orderly is interesting ... but one wonders why he didn't mention that - and more importantly, why his family would have made him the subject of an insanity hearing, if he was simply an orderly at the asylum? It's an interesting point to be sure. Perhaps at some point in the future, we'll have the opportunity to dig into the Elgin Asylum records to verify whether he was a patient or resident there, sometime in the late 1880s and early 1890s. Thanks again!
@GOMF-eq4qc 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. I have always been fascinated by Scharf’s maps. I’m curious about the source of the wonderful drawings of Scharf. They are really well done.
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, commenting, and supporting our channel! Indeed, his maps are fairly well done, if you excuse the occasional flight of fancy. The way we see the maps, it records the "hot spots" for archeology in the Chicago region (although it does miss some major sites as well), based mostly upon personal finds and interviews with locals (who themselves dug up quite a bit of material). We have run onto people who are very dismissive of his maps - but in the context of 1900 knowledge, it was a major step forward - and demonstrated what an amateur could do over the course of many years to contribute towards the emerging science of archeology. Thanks again for watching!
@rossbryan6102 11 күн бұрын
LOL AN VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR THOSE WANTING TO GET OUT OF CHICAGO!!! LOL!!
@janickgoudeau6126 11 күн бұрын
I have extensive hi-8mm video filmed on a late 80s Canon movie camera of the original buildings, massive monastery before the land was sub dived in 1991. I will try and find it to post at somepoiht
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
That would be most interesting to see! Let us know if we can be of any help in digitizing that material. The DuPage County Forest Preserve would be most interested in seeing and archiving that material as well. Thanks for sharing that information!
@janickgoudeau6126 10 күн бұрын
Thank you. For your kind and quick response. I would like to definitely be of some assistance.I will be in touch in the future.
@janickgoudeau6126 11 күн бұрын
I had the opportunity to visit in the early 1990s before the huge monastery was completely torn down. You could see the bell tower from the hill on 31street. They say Peabody is buried under the remaining estate in some kind of carbon stasis to be re-opened in the future. I think he his death was caused by a fall from a horse. I spend some time working there catering, personally I don't believe it's actually that fireproof and it might be rather haunted.
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the interesting comments and observations! Thanks too for watching the video! We address the whole Peabody's Tomb controversy in Part 3 specifically. He's buried in a modest grave in a Roman Catholic cemetery in Hillside, Illinois, along with his son, and the Franciscan Friars that served at Mayslake.
@thomasmackowiak 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for this in=depth presentation on Albert Scharf life and his work on trails used Native Americans and the locations of where they lived. I appreciated the research that you did on Albert Scharf's life and the way that you presented that information to us. Sone of Albert Scharf's interpretations of what he was looking at were inaccurate. His maps also had some flaws. Despite these problems, the work that Albert Scharf did to uncover information on Native American trails and settlements has provided researchers and archeologists who came after him with information that has been helpful to them in locating Native American sites in the Northeast portion of Illinois. (Posted on 8 January 2025 at 2052 CST.)
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for watching the video and for taking the time to write a thoughtful comment and set of observations! We very much appreciate your ongoing support and your willingness for us to go off in different topics of interest. Thanks again!
@jameskulevich8907 11 күн бұрын
Good channel for us curious locals. Great job, guys! The map in question has let me to interesting places.
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for watching and commenting! Glad that you found the video and channel interesting! Indeed, the Scharf map(s) can provide much guidance for those that have an interest in this fascinating topic. Thanks again!
@bpekim1 11 күн бұрын
A fascinating and melancholy tale. Thank you for telling it. There seems to be so little detailed history of the native populations in the Chicago area, glad to see you are sharing that information to a wider audience.
@BeHistoric 10 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for watching the video and for commenting! Yes, fully agreed that little is documented on Chicago area archeological sites. We fully understand the need to protect these sites - but the cost is that the general public knows little or nothing about the people that lived here for thousands of years - and were unceremoniously pushed out just a few hundred years ago. Thanks again for the comment!
@harleymon407 13 күн бұрын
Can you make more of these so interesting
@BeHistoric 13 күн бұрын
We plan to finish off the series this year or next year - with perhaps two parts on the Main Line (Wheaton to Chicago). As we've explained in some of our public talks, these videos are very depressing to make - as there is much tragedy and sadness here. And so we can only make them on occasion. However, we understand the interest and hope to finish this series sometime soon. Thanks again.
@harleymon407 13 күн бұрын
I love y’all’s channel so much thank you
@BeHistoric 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching this series - so glad that you are enjoying the Accidents and Tragedies of the CA&E series. And thanks too for taking the time to comment!
@blainebunton 14 күн бұрын
American archeologists lmao. There is no such thing. You mean professional discrediting liars. Fairy tail people. American archeologist=lmao. Throw the Smithsonian’s in there and you have a whole comedy show
@magavelli420 14 күн бұрын
I live in Winfield and ive been going deep on stolen history and JUST recently brought up to someone why does the Winfield Mounds on the prairie path have a castle logo on it in the middle of the woods i think something more grand was there before. What a weird synchronization. Especially the crazy stuff they find in the Mounds! Thanks for the videos just found this page. 💜🙏🏼
@BeHistoric 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! Very interesting regarding the castle logo. We have not seen that on our visits. Is that something new? Not sure why anyone would put such a thing there? The DuPage County Forest Preserve District would be the best place to put this question or comment. Thanks for pointing this out!
@magavelli420 13 күн бұрын
@BeHistoric if you go on google maps on that area point of "Winfield Mounds" it has a castle logo! Very interesting. Thanks for the channel its cool that someone local is making videos like this.
@harleymon407 14 күн бұрын
Awesome I’m watch more this is awesome
@BeHistoric 13 күн бұрын
Glad that you are enjoying the Bandits and Vigilantes series. That is one of our favorites! Thank you for commenting!
@harleymon407 14 күн бұрын
Why is this channel not bigger? This is too cool always wanted to know what the history was around me my whole life
@BeHistoric 13 күн бұрын
That is an excellent question! Very glad that you are enjoying our videos! Thank you for commenting!
@dsma2023 19 күн бұрын
The use of crap colored photos and AI generated garbage makes what you are doing really crappy. What a waste of effort.
@BeHistoric 19 күн бұрын
@@dsma2023 Thanks very much for watching our videos! Glad that you enjoyed it and found it informative!
@dougholty2635 23 күн бұрын
Thank you again. And I hope you continue on railroad history and depots etc Most interested in the Milwaukee Road in the Midwest. Mostly in southeast Minnesota where I am from. Please continue your research. Thank you.
@BeHistoric 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for the appreciatiion and for watching our videos! So glad that you enjoyed them! We hope to do more railroad related series in the future, as it is a fascinating topic. Thank you again!
@robchit1 24 күн бұрын
Big shout-out to the tremendous work done on this series, and I'm glad it's not totally done. I will keep my eye out for more in the future. Fan from start to the end--
@BeHistoric 23 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and supporting the entires series! We very much appreciate it! The support of folks such as yourself gave us great impetus to keep going - and to keep digging - and so thank you for that!
@EdwardGray-q5e 26 күн бұрын
Great work enjoyed all 24 chapters! One comment on pronouncing William Deramus’s name. He pronounced Duh-Ray’-mus! He was on the Kansas City Royals Board of Directors in the early year of the franchise! I met him at our local radio station (who carried the Royals Baseball Network)! His brother ran the Missouri Kansas & Texas .
@BeHistoric 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching the entire series - and thanks for the helpful comment regarding the pronunciation of Deramus name - that is most helpful! One wonders what he would have to say about the CGW, if one could pick his brain? Thanks for sharing your experiences with Deramus!
@Zethen 26 күн бұрын
Nice replay for the holiday season!
@BeHistoric 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment! Yes, we think that it's a nice story - and converys the small communities that grew up within these train routes - people taking the same train every day, with the same motorman and conductor - they got to know each other pretty well. Thanks again!