@@jacobmorrill555 It is quite surprising that more companies haven’t jumped on the opportunity to be competitors. Sorry you’re having a bad experience with Sonos too. Let us know if you need recommendations for replacement speakers or want to run options by us.

@@martinolson761 thanks for sharing your experience! Glad to hear they’re working out in a multifunctional setting for you. We are loving the consistency of this sub!

@@MediaHead. You are welcome...cheers.

@@rfoliente1 sorry to hear you’re not having a great experience with them. They are definitely not an audiophile sound, but are at the top of their class for invisible speakers. You’re always going to sacrifice some hifi with choosing this aesthetic solution. But if the aesthetics are more important than hifi to the person, I think this is their best bet.

@@MediaHead. Exactly, these are for people who value aesthetics where sound quality is the very last priority. Even mediocre inexpensive bookshelf speakers sound better. I can't even listen to mine anymore. You guys shouldn't use words like "blown away." It's a disservice to the consumer.

@@rfoliente1 We understand what you’re saying, but if you watch the video, we immediately clarify that we were blown away for the class of speakers that they are. They are tremendously more full and clear than others on the market. And we clarify why it’s still a sacrifice with sound.

@@thembaallendlamini4777 The ones we have in the video are mockups of the speakers behind drywall. There isn’t any technology to see, just drywall, as intended. During install they are completely hidden inside of a drywall stud bay and are very much meant to disappear into your wall. In any situation that these would be used, you would never see a front, back, or side of the speaker, you only see the wall.

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Are you sure you set them up correctly? I just bought them and had trouble myself until I realized you have to turn off any digital cross over your receiver may have built in. The sub is receiving your speaker signal, so any crossover in it's path will neuter almost all of their performance . Once I turned my towers to full range, the Rel shook my windows at 15% volume. I've come across a few people including a famous hi-fi reviewer setting them up incorrectly.

They sounded great for in-walls. They cabinet definitely helped control the frequency response when installed, but hurt bass extension. So I would suggest a subwoofer in pairing.

@@MediaHead. Good to know. It's a small cabinet which is probably the reason for lack of bass extension. I talked to another manufacturer about building a sealed back box for their in-wall and they suggested a 1.76 cubic foot box, which was surprisingly large. They said it could go smaller, but you'd sacrifice extension.

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Really depends on the room, as long as you entered the room size correctly i would follow their recommendation. The Carbon special driver is as light as the S510 driver while moving more air and having more power, so I doubt you would lose any performance in the lower mids.

Thank you very much. REL did recommend the Carbon Special for a medium sized room, probably because the Utopias are super fast.

So, let it be known I would not recommend that for either two channel amp. Out of the two the Powernode is the only one I would ever do that two. The Sonos amp is NOT 2 ohm stable and the ONLY pair of speakers that you could get away with that with is the Sonos Sonance In-Ceiling speakers. If you connected your speakers to the Sonos amp you would IMMEDIATELY VOID THE WARRANTY on the amp. The powernode can handle 2 ohms over a period of time but you might encounter volume limits. Particularly because those speakers are very inefficient at 86db/m. Keep in mind these amps are only one zone, so if you are expecting to be able to control the zone's volume independently, you will not be able to do so as all will play together at a level volume.

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You are absolutely correct, I have read alot of good things about Eigentakt and definitely would say it's a step up. I do still think there is a place for the C399 as it punches above its weight class.

NAD C298 is from 2021 it is still good but there are also newer Purifi modules. The 1ET9040BA and the 1ET6525SA are new from this month. Look for BoXem Audio, Buckeye, Apollon, SoundImpress, ...

Rel's sub finder would be a good place to start. Would likely recommend t7x for a medium sized room.

@@MediaHead. Thank you, I didn't know they had a 'sub finder' on their website.

A few things to consider. If you already have sonos then go with sonos, however, sonos doesnt play well with others. If audio quality is what you are going for I'd suggest bluesound. Both brands can do wireless or wired rears. The main difference between the two is the subwoofer output on the Bluesound Pulse. It allows you to buy any subwoofer you want, which is why it would be my choice any day of the week. Both apps are very easy to use, I'd trust my mom to use either.

So many different ones to choose from. Do you have a budget in mind, otherwise the list would be very long. For a budget, I'd suggest starting between $400 and $1000

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Yes the H T can be connected high level using the Air as you say, the sub is then receiving the same signal as your speakers are getting so reaction time is improved. The Air high level input then connects to the 1510 low level RCA input, with a bit of tweaking the H T will then be able to act like a standard REL high level input sub and be just as effective in two - channel as well as being an amazing A V sub.

@@andyburnett8012 Yes, that's how I use it. I just wanted to highlight this to the creator of the video because with the Airship 2 this sub is a different animal than with the RCA. I've asked John Hunter on Saturday at the Bristol Hifi Show. He said if he would be asked to categorize the 1510 with airship as a musical sub, then he would say it's on the same level as the 812, but sounds different. He mentioned a customer who asked them to install a pair of 1510 with Klipsch Cornwall's and he said it's mind-blowing. I think to buy an Airship 2 is a must to the 1510 if you want to use it for stereo as well. For AV LFE you don't need it of course...

@attilakovacs773 Yes you're right with the airship high level input the 1510 performs well, I was at Bristol too and spoke to John Hunter about how the 1510 works for two channel. He explained it in length and did lose me a bit as he got a bit technical, but I understood what he was saying. My wife Rachel runs REL in bridgend, I also spoke to Ben the technical guy in Bridgend, he's going to work on setting up a 1510 with the airship this week as he was keen to hear the results.

I actually only tried this recently. GAME CHANGER

Awesome set up! Thanks for sharing!

Thanks! It would be a great match with your system for sure.

I haven't heard the Dione. I am sure it has low frequencies as its much larger than either Sonos or Bluesound. It is also over twice the price of the Sonos Arc or Bluesound Pulse. Pairing a subwoofer with the bluesound would likely offer far better low frequencies than the Dione at a lower price. So its all about what you want. If you want an all in one solution, go for the Dione.

@@MediaHead.in the end Dione is not a product for me. I’ve spent time reviewing the reviews and come to conclusion that I have to choose between this Pulse+ or Sony A5000/7000. Dion is very overpriced for what it is. Also Devialet customer support is awful.

@@MediaHead.the only problem I don’t want to have a separate subwoofer. It always looks ugly.

@@vqa33 have you checked out REL? They have some very attractive subs and the sound is fantastic. Or you could try a Sonos Sub Mini so it doesn’t take up as much space.

Aesthetics are important, so it is understandable for you to choose something that fits your aesthetic. It is a high soundbar. That is one of the reasons it has better low frequency response as it is able to have larger drivers.

Yep! And it comes with the wall mount!

Honestly, not in the same class... Tekton makes great products, especially for the price, but the 4 10 is more comparable to the HT/1205 MkII or similar priced subs such as the SB2000.

@@MediaHead. really? Fascinating. Can you elaborate further?

It really does sound fantastic if you ask me. The sub out is why I would take this over any other soundbar in this price point. I am glad you liked the soundbar!

@@MediaHead. I'm trying to figure out/find out, if I could get one Pulse Flex 2i as a rear, or if you have to do this in pairs? My space is not conducive for a true surround, but a single rear, if that works, might be something to consider.

It needs to be done in pairs unfortunately, you may want to consider investing more heavily in the front stage(soundbar or upgrading to bookshelves/in-wall and a subwoofer). I do not have a living space conducive to surround so I just invested in an upgraded front stage. Great stereo speakers setup correctly can get really close to the staging in entry or mid level surround systems for a similar cost.

That’s awesome, totally agree! Happy listening to you as well!

@@MediaHead. Thanks Mitchell!

@@MediaHead. Hey there Mitchell - in my review of your review :-) I forgot to mention that IF as of the day that you posted your video you had had your S/510 for only ONE day, you must be getting even HIGHER fidelity performance from it by now, right? ! As a fan of the many very helpful John Hunter REL videos, you might surely have come across his "break in" video in which he outlines the importance of running it in for at least a couple of hours at a pretty high volume when you and the wify and kids are out having lunch (as long as the initial turn on - from brand new out of the box - volume is brought up and set gently for the first 15 or twenty minutes that is!) I'm bringing this up more for the benefit of new REL owners because you know this already Mitchell, but John Hunter says that it won't do to just run in a new sub even for 24 hours at low or "normal" volume because the driver surround just won't soften up enough for optimum performance at normal listening volumes. And I can assure anyone that that is certainly the case ! Nice video because you come across as both knowledgeable and humble (a nice combination LOL) and BTW those Martin Logans of yours are very nice too with a good match to your S/510 :-)

I had it on the 12 hours before the video to do some form of break in, but I am sure it needed a bit more time. I'll be sure to update after its broken in!

@@MediaHead. OH! That's GOOD! 12 hours IMHO ought to be sufficient (as long as, according to John Hunter, your S/510 was working pretty hard during a couple of those hours :-) I found that anything after a couple of days of continuous running at medium to reasonably high levels brings small incremental changes. I found another little uptick in bass resolution after adding a 3 meter long Basseline Blue cable - cheers and thanks for getting back to me. P.S I'd like to know YOUR feelings about the Bassline Blue cable if you opt to try it out!

Would need a sledge hammer....

Heck yeah, we’d love to have a stack on each side! Interesting about the lacquer. We haven’t had an issue yet with our other models, but will definitely consider especially if we stack them. Thanks for your reply!

Hey Artemis - I work in high end pro car detailing . . . if you are getting swirls and micro scratches you might want to upgrade your MF cloths - those too have levels of quality - a VERY plush M F used VERY lightly as a duster with NO pressure whatsoever, will be just fine . I've had NO issues whatsoever.

@davidbee8178 Hi David, I also am a car enthusiast and have all of the Rupes polishers (3x), pads, compound, etc., needed to run my own detailing business...my cars are very clean :-) With that said, and though your comment has merit, it's not that simple. This is not simple dust, it's CA dust, with a little particulate matter mixed in (we live in SoCal). My point is that the lacquer is incredibly soft. I had polished it to get the microscatches out, and then the following day had used a microfiber cloth to remove a simple smudge, and low and behold, it created more microscratches (there was some dust that had accumulated as well). It was at that point where it was clear this would be a losing battle, and so I polished again and then added black Vinyl film on top to completely protect the surface. You're right under normal circumstances, but the combination of environmental dust that I have with the soft lacquer finish makes for a challenging situation.

@@Artemis_Prix Hi Art . . . thanks for expanding on the unfortunate problem you are facing - sounds like the "dust" carries a form abrasion that attacks the soft paint on the REL . . . yikes! You came up with an innovative solution :-) Nice to be able to relax and enjoy your S/510 without the negative side effects! Great sub BTW ! :-) I'm enjoying mine for sure . . . (minus that form of nasty dust!) here in the Great White North (Montreal :-) Cheers and happy listening!

@davidbee8178 Thanks for the kudos. As is often said, sometimes you do what you have to do. In my case, enjoying my S/510 without worrying about the finish 😊 Stay warm my friend 👍

Thanks! Will do on the inputs. Trying to keep the topics under 5mins, but will return to report on more details in the future!

Thank you!

The Powernode is meant for one single zone but you can go with up to 64 zones with bluesound. They also have a 4 zone unit available Via NAD.

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I would not recommend that. In theory yes, however, a lot of amplifiers will not output full range audio through high level. It could also introduce some grounding issues if both systems aren't wired correctly

@@MediaHead. Thanks!

Thank you! and honestly, I'd say that's dependent on room size. If you have the budget for two I'd advise it, but one has a lot of output. I have mine on 30% and its plenty for this room.

They are essentially floor standing speakers if they were placed inside a wall! Definitely big but size matters with audio

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Not in the same league. Hardware is fine but software is not even mentionable in the same sentence. The only time I'd say it's an option is if someone has been using google cast for years and is already comfortable with it. Other than that scenario, there are too many factors that change with google cast on an app by app basis to make it an option that I'd ever recommend. Hardware is fine. The amplifier seems capable, albeit, they don't rate what the output THD is when measured(always a red flag).

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