Would require you to have a lot of telegram accounts to do this, probably more admin than it would be worth given that most of the time the top up would be less than £30 If someone wanted to behave like this, it would get picked up from the backend over time as well. Is a fair point but from all my observations, I don’t think behaviour like this occurs much at all

I was unaware of past issues prior to the Bet Bots, do you mind elaborating? Doesn’t surprise me now of course to know this

@@wadstersbettingdiary3776 all that the you described in your video was present in his previous interactions in Twitter and his joint groups. He piggybacked on other people to get exposure and try and maximize his profits. But hopefully now people will see his character for what he really is.

@@matablaha5992 yeah it’s as clear as day now if anyone wasn’t aware before

His bets are always recorded at price he sends even if odds drop fast. But not really be a problem last months as prices have enough liquidity to bet if quick

Hey man! It’s off season for Houdini now (restarts October)! Can help you out if you’re interested in any of the other tipsters though!

@@wadstersbettingdiary3776 Yes I know but I want to know if usually he send picks fews hours before game starts or just few minutes Also when I look his results, I don't understand difference between ATS + ou (betfair exchange), and ATS full game for example

@@wadstersbettingdiary3776 I have paid for 2 points Evisking, there is active picks ?

Best to message me on telegram as notifications here suck. But usually his picks are sent a number hours in advance (usually 4 before matches start)

@@Menez07not 100% sure on that, will look into Houdini spreadsheet again soon Evisking had no active picks for a while.

Already got a high quality European basketball tipster with Leo Leo! SBC don’t have too many premium tipsters outside of horses so I don’t think they’d appreciate me making a move like that 😂

Thanks mate, much appreciated!

Sure - best place to get in touch is @wadster on telegram or email at [email protected]

Great comment mate cheers!

Cheers buddy, much appreciated!

Yet you still follow, otherwise you'd have no reason to comment. Not all gamblers should follow tipster either I'd say, especially not ones they feel have no tippable edge

i follow tipsters to see if they have a tippable edge, and i follow their bets when they do. this isn't a personal attack. you would feel bad charging money for no useful edge

Cheers Jakub, yes all great ideas and ROI for different stages in tournaments is one I'm going to be doing soon! Once my brothers got more time he'll be able to provite automated stats for things like ROI by bet type and different stakes so I'll look into those ones when that's the case!

@@wadstersbettingdiary3776 Great, I´m looking forward to it!

yeah my staking is a general reflection of my confidence levels in a match! Only bet 1pt on Murray set 1 for example and 3pts on Shelton vs Wolf due to extra confidence in the reading being correct!

On that how come you've shifted on your point staking? Been a long time follower. 1.5 used to be a fair indication of a high confidence bet. In the last year that's shifted to 2.5 as the highest level of confidence bet? That shift also seems to have coincided with the long drawdown last year so just curious. Be interested to see the stats on 2.5pt bets on 1.8ish odds bets definitely feels that they just aren't landing as often as a high confidence bet should

One more question as well. As an English tipster how come your main betting site is pinnacle as that's not available in the UK? Is there a way to still get access to it from the UK?

@@simonainsworth6841 Hi Simon, so with my staking, the increase in average stake has risen a little as I'm now aiming for an average turnover on the bot of around 100pts per month, so generally 2pts average stake for a match allows me to get close to that target. If I achieve a long-term ROI of 7% for example and make an average of 7pts in a month the sub cost would be about £35 which I felt fair. Just felt with the previous staking I was selling my service a little short financially. I prefer this staking plan also as I prefer having a bit more conviction with what I'm doing. Think the 0.5pt & 0.25pt stakes I used to do regularly encouraged a more tentative mindset. Can be a good thing also but generally feel more comfortable staking as I am currently. The 2.5pt plays are still a lowish sample, probably around 20 but I agree that I've not got them often right currently. Think it's a staking level that I'll reduce a bit more unless I have really high confidence moving forward.

@@simonainsworth6841 even as an English tipster, around 70% of my client base are outside the UK now and pinnacle will be the site everyone is able to access. The equivalent for us is the betfair exchange where the odds will reflect closely or better to pinnacles. I know there are some examples where there might not be the same liquidity at the odds I send but equally there'll be times where the 2nd best price I've quoted is below the best price on the exchange and you do better from following. Recording pinnacle odds also allows me to do more comparisons with CLV etc and have a deeper analysis for how my bets change in price in the market. I think strategically this will help also in understanding when the best time to send certain bets in different markets might be (for example tipping overs early is often important because the prices have shortened a lot over time). I want to ensure is that the odds availability is fair still and on my betting diary all the bets I'm taking are often I've sent on the bot and I'm actually ahead of official right now with just bet365 & exchange being based in the UK so I think as long as that's happening over the long term then that's the main thing. It is possible to have access to shadow pinnacle prices when using a VPN with platforms like asian connect I've heard although it's not something I do myself. But it's something to maybe explore!

Cheers pal, enjoying documenting it all! Yeah I do - wadster.co.uk/wadster-winners/. Have a waiting list atm but can add you to the bot if wanting to purchase points!

Thanks a lot Gregory!