A little zipper lube would probably fix your zipper issues
@adrianofthewest2 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea. I didn’t even know that was a product.
@Robert-yl3mo2 ай бұрын
24 not too small ?
@adrianofthewest2 ай бұрын
Depends on the use, but overall it’s a pretty spacious pack.
@JimClark-m7j3 ай бұрын
Awesome review! No stupid music and good video. Just nice simple to the point video.
@adrianofthewest3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@anthonyventimiglia50264 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Adrian. What gear would you recommend regarding the bolt that's been placed there? Is a bolt hanger, carabiner and rope enough?
@adrianofthewest4 ай бұрын
Yeah buddy! I hope it was helpful. I didn’t measure the bolt diameter, but I think it was a 10mm or 3/8" bolt; the other most common sizes are 12mm and 1/2". I'm not sure of the thread pitch (probably standard for whatever the bolt is). You could take several nut sizes if you want to be sure you have the right size available when you get there. In fact, come back and drop a comment with the right size when you return! Regarding gear: take a bolt hanger, nut, crescent wrench to secure the nut, harness (or gunner’s belt), rope, carabiner, and some kind of device that will auto-arrest a fall. I descended on a figure eight with a Klemheist autoblock (that's the green cord you see in the vid). Remember: the most important thing is that if you slip, you don’t want to go tumbling down the canyon. If you have a rope, you can use it to assist you, and you probably won’t fall because it will be a cake walk. BUT, if you do happen to lose your footing and slip for whatever reason, you want to be sure the fall is quickly arrested within a few inches to avoid shock loading you and the anchor point, especially with static rope that has little to no elongation. I also used a Petzl Basic Ascender on the ascent, but you don't really need one and could just ascend by tying in with the Klemheist (or whatever autoblock you use) and push that up the rope with your hands as you simultaneously use your hands to grip the rope and assist your ascent. That way, if you slip and your hands come off the rope (which they almost certainly would because that's a natural reaction), the autoblock will bite down on the rope and you won't go bouncing down the canyon to the bottom. I hope that all makes sense. Let me know if you have any other questions. It’s a beautiful place, and the descent/ascent is a breeze with the right gear. Double check all your connections before you load the line, and have a good time!
@ianfarnsworth23264 ай бұрын
Got a used one of these with no instructions, and was feeling lost as a beginner. This review was a life-saver! You rule. Love this tent now
@adrianofthewest4 ай бұрын
Hell yeah I’m glad it helped!🤙
@rangim14 ай бұрын
do you know any details on the bolt that was in the rock and what i can use to clip onto it
@adrianofthewest4 ай бұрын
I believe it was a 3/8” bolt.
@rangim14 ай бұрын
@@adrianofthewest thanks
@adrianofthewest4 ай бұрын
@@rangim1 you bet. It could be worth taking a 1/2” nut and bolt hanger just in case though. I don’t think I measured the bolt diameter, but most are 3/8”.
@rangim14 ай бұрын
@@adrianofthewest got it thanks!
@adrianofthewest4 ай бұрын
@@rangim1 🤙🤙
@rhomearound5 ай бұрын
Excellent review. What has been your experience getting in and out in rain without a vestibule? On a tent with a fly, you've got a covered space for dirty, wet shoes and to block some rain when you open the door.
@adrianofthewest5 ай бұрын
Thanks! We’ve never used it in the rain. The main reason we went for canvas was to protect against sand storms. For a solo, there’s enough room inside for gear.
@chadlunders48985 ай бұрын
Nice video! You skipped the sliding the cross pole into the rainfly pockets. I found that part to be a bit tricky.
@adrianofthewest5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@amazingtraveladventures5 ай бұрын
The video is interesting but it is almost B&W - No Color
@adrianofthewest5 ай бұрын
Weird. I just watched it, and the color I see is accurate.
@pattiworkover7125 ай бұрын
Finally a useful product review! Thank you.
@adrianofthewest5 ай бұрын
I’m glad it helped 🤙
@JoselitoFactora6 ай бұрын
I don't have it I'd like to have one but I can afford it but I love it have it❤😢
@adrianofthewest4 ай бұрын
I hope you get one soon!
@donwest18696 ай бұрын
Can it be put up by one person with one good hand? I have a disability in one hand.
@adrianofthewest6 ай бұрын
It’s hard to say. I guess it ultimately depends on each person. I think the most difficult part would be getting the poles in place, but if you could stabilize the pole with your disabled hand or forearm enough to bend it into place with your good hand, I think you would be able to erect the tent. Bending the poles seems like it would be the most challenging part. I ended up returning the tent, so I’m going off of a fuzzy memory here. I hope that helps! 🤙
@markusschmied22376 ай бұрын
Hi there! Thanks for this amazing, detailed footage about the "crux" passage on this route! I'm wondering if that middle section, where you used the rope, is really more challenging than the uppermost and lowest parts, where you didn't yet attach the rope/had run out of rope, respectively. I'm asking because I'd love to hike that trail but am unfamiliar with ropes and harnesses. On the other hand, I'm the agile, outdoorsy type (trail running, mountain biking, the odd rock scramble included...). What would you think?
@adrianofthewest6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I wouldn’t do it without gear. It can be done without gear, but if you slip and don’t have a way to arrest the fall, you’ll be in for one hell of a ride down to the bottom. I’ve seen a lot of videos of people descending without gear or just with a hand line, and they made it. But again, if they had slipped for whatever reason, they wouldn’t have been able to stop themselves from falling all the way down about 60’ to the landing. To me, it wasn’t worth the risk. Falling is no joke. A fall like that (or even a lot less than that) could result and a broken back or neck. The risk of ending up paraplegic or quadriplegic just doesn’t make sense when it can be mitigated by carrying a bit of gear and making safety a priority. And even if one of those worst-case scenarios doesn’t happen, having a brain injury or breaking a leg, arm, ankle, wrist, rib, etc. is still a major issue. I know I probably sound a bit dramatic, but I take safety very seriously having had a few close calls in my day. I hope that helps👍
@markusschmied22376 ай бұрын
@@adrianofthewest Thanks a bunch for this detailed account! It's done its job in raising red flags! ;) I totally agree with you that injury of whatever sort is not an option out there. OK, so I'll look into how to handle basic climbing gear! Best, Markus
@adrianofthewest6 ай бұрын
@@markusschmied2237 You bet! I’m glad it helped! Let me know if you have other questions.
@GauravShah6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the info! The Big Agnes web site has some instructions I can't quite understand (for the Blacktail 2, but I assume it's the same: 7. Drape the fly over the tent body and match the colors of the webbing on the fly with the webbing on the body. 8. Insert the tips of the crossover pole into the small pockets located on the underside of the fly. 9. Make sure the webbing at the corners of the fly is completely slackened. Attach the buckles on the fly to those on the tent body. 10. Tighten the webbing on each buckle as needed to keep the fly taut. I don't see any color coordination for webbing (or where the webbing is for that matter). I don't understand where the pockets are on the underside of the fly for the crossover pole.
@adrianofthewest6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Coreyofthemtn7 ай бұрын
Serious question - you really think the drop in from the water tower trail needs a full harness/rappel? I’m taking a young men’s group in a couple of weeks. Last time I did this we turned at JHA and went back to Crack In the Wall. So I’ve never seen the sneaker route. We were planning to start at the crack and exit the sneak route.
@adrianofthewest7 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t do it without gear. It can be done without gear, but if you slip and don’t have a way to arrest the fall, you’ll be in for one hell of a ride down to the bottom. I’ve seen a lot of videos of people descending without gear or just with a hand line, and they made it. But again, if they had slipped for whatever reason, they wouldn’t have been able to stop themselves from falling all the way down about 60’ to the landing. To me, it wasn’t worth the risk. Falling is no joke. A fall like that (or even a lot less than that) could result and a broken back or neck. The risk of ending up paraplegic or quadriplegic just doesn’t make sense when it can be mitigated by carrying a bit of gear and making safety a priority. And even if one of those worst-case scenarios doesn’t happen, having a brain injury or breaking a leg, arm, ankle, wrist, rib, etc. is still a major issue. I know I probably sound a bit dramatic, but I take safety very seriously having had a few close calls in my day. I hope that helps👍
@Coreyofthemtn7 ай бұрын
@@adrianofthewest interesting. I was planning to start at Crack in the wall and exit up this with the group. But seeing that top view in your video, and given what you're saying about the decent, i might have them go down JHA to start with and hike to the Crack over the next day. I'd rather manage that angle of approach from an assisted downclimb than trying to scale it with packs.
@adrianofthewest7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree. I haven’t been to Crack in the Wall, but if you can ascend it, I would recommend descending JHA and ascending Crack.
@michaelslezak30492 ай бұрын
I've done this, It definitely does NOT need a full harness and gear except for the most extreme faint of heart or no experience on any rock. Almost anyone can just hold the rope in your hand for some assist in getting up or down. I saw many hikers doing this including a couple who brought their big dog up and down it. Keep in mind, that 90% of this steep section can easily be done as hand and foot, 3rd class rock scrambling, as you see them in the video doing in places. There is only 10% that is particularly steep and slippery where most would want to hold the rope for assistance. BUT, even that part, I carefully moved traversed across the rock to the right and left ( away from the center part where everyone goes in a straight line down the rope) and then I found good hand and foot holds for proceeding without using the rope at all. Full packs no problem. Of course, err on the side of safety, reducing risk, and easier if you have 3rd class type rock scrambling experience ( blah, blah, blah).
@jamesshaw16027 ай бұрын
If you put that same heat around the perimeter of the knot, you can firm up and lock down the knot. It will never slip loose. It will also never untie but we all have spare cordage anyway so…
@adrianofthewest7 ай бұрын
Hell yeah solid idea 👍
@joyjoy5347 ай бұрын
I plan to be there in 1st part of Oct, wonder if it would be just as windy.
@adrianofthewest7 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s usually that windy there. Take goggles just in case though!
@bradykalal9387 ай бұрын
great review, thank you
@adrianofthewest7 ай бұрын
Yeah buddy 🤙
@mahal808Y7 ай бұрын
with the zipper issue was that a manufacturer defect or is that what is standard in that size tent?
@adrianofthewest7 ай бұрын
People have told me it was a defective zipper. I don’t imagine the company would stay in business if that was the standard zipper performance.
@mahal808Y7 ай бұрын
@@adrianofthewest thanks for the reply. were you able to get a zipper repair with the manufacturer?
@adrianofthewest7 ай бұрын
@@mahal808Y you bet! And I just returned the tent rather than go for the repair.
@littlebanshee8 ай бұрын
Do you not use a ground tarp normally? Since I’m planning getting one of these I’m curious, is it easy to keep clean (since it’s a light color too)?
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
I use a piece of the grey indoor/outdoor carpet you can get at Home Depot. Carpet does a better job of protecting against rock punctures when there is weight applied than a tarp. I’ve given up on keeping the tent clean since we spend our time in the desert; the sand and dust basically make it impossible.
@BilltheTulaneGuy8 ай бұрын
What I needed to know when I needed to know it. #greatcontent
@BilltheTulaneGuy8 ай бұрын
New subscriber
@BilltheTulaneGuy8 ай бұрын
Bought as doorbusters package at #TheBackpacker
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🤙 I’m glad it helped
@ronneyrendon50458 ай бұрын
Nice view, woof. Nice tent too.
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ishmaelas-salaam97048 ай бұрын
When the zipper snags the peg/stake needs to be loosen
@victormarshall88284 ай бұрын
I experienced the exact same thing, and that's what I had to do. It fixed the problem instantly
@adrianofthewest4 ай бұрын
@victormarshall8828 good to know that works👍
@victormarshall88284 ай бұрын
@adrianofthewest yes sir, yeah mine is a 10x14 but it does the same thing if the corner stakes are way too tightly stretched.
@adrianofthewest4 ай бұрын
@@victormarshall8828 classic user error 😅
@victormarshall88284 ай бұрын
@@adrianofthewest happens to the best of us 😂😂
@esterdrass49648 ай бұрын
I love the idea of a compact tent, but I also don't want to sleep on the ground, and I don't know if its possible to have a compact tent like that and also use a taller air mattress (one that is about two feet high when pumped up) or a cot. If I was able to get the mattress in there and pump it up, would I be able to get up without bumping my head. It seems most campers using a compact, sleep on the ground. So, I didn't know if you had experience using a blow-up mattress in that tent.
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
I’d say there is enough headroom to get a blowup mattress in there, though you’d sacrifice home vertical space for sure. Perhaps a high density foam pad would work in place or an air mattress and still provide the comfort and support you’re seeking.
@TheDarkestOne378 ай бұрын
I like your mods. I've done a few of the same to my 5.11 packs. However, I also cut out the laptop pocket, as I never carry a laptop in my bags. I also cut off the compression straps because they always prevent me from closing the bag easily. Now I just buy First Tactical bags, because there is no laptop pouch and the compression straps are removable. And full clam shell opening! So much better.
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I ended up cutting out the laptop pocket and compression straps too. I wish 5.11 made a dedicated laptop pocket that could open from the top with its own zipper like a normal laptop bag. I also wish they put three horizontal zipper pockets across the front, rather than the admin panel. I used to have a First Tactical bag and I really liked it. First makes good gear.
@Bryan-li8qi8 ай бұрын
I have yet to do buckskin, i'll be going in September. Taking my old man for his birthday. How far in would you say is a reasonable turn around point and still leaving satisfied? ( I suffer from "just go to the next bend" syndrome). I'd like to keep his miles to around 6 to 8 total if possible.
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
The syndrome is real lol. Start at Wire Pass (37.01903, -112.02520). It's about 1.9 miles to where things start to get epic (37.01847, -112.00224). Another 2.3 miles gets you to a good place to eat and turn back (37.01141, -111.97840), but you probably won't want to because that place is amazing. If pops isn't up for it, you could cut that short by a 0.75 to 1 miles and still see what the canyon has to offer. Have a blast man. Of all the places I've been, Buckskin still holds the number one spot.
@Bryan-li8qi8 ай бұрын
@@adrianofthewest Thanks man. Appreciate it. Been on countless forums and can never get an exact answer. Most of my time out there has been spent North and East of the Vermillion cliffs, up into the swell and around Moab/Hite. So looking forward to getting into Buckskin. Wish I didn't live 2500 miles from there haha.
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
Hell yeah man, I’m glad it helped🤙
@Bryan-li8qi8 ай бұрын
I'm glad I continued watching, because my fingers were already typing up how this isn't a rappelling route and was dying with the overkill at the beginning of the video lol. I'm glad you cleared that up at the 5:30 mark. I've done this 3 times with no rope and twice with rope, each with a full pack to spend the night in the canyon. While the rope is certainly a welcoming assist, it's not 100 percent necessary.
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
Lol props to you for suspending your response until you watched the whole thing. It seems to be a rare quality these days. 🤙
@blonde_bombshellАй бұрын
Thank youuuuu I’ve been searching the internet for hours for this and you answered it for me 🙃
@adrianofthewestАй бұрын
@blonde_bombshell I’m glad it helped! I posted a few more videos on this hike recently (and one specifically of the climb showing other people doing it), so feel if you want some different angles, check out those too.
@bradwhitlow36459 ай бұрын
Great Review, very detailed
@adrianofthewest9 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🤙
@sindok939 ай бұрын
Nice that I found this videos. I also got rid of 2 side buckles which hinder me access to side pockets and main room. I think it is completely pointless to have those, unless it is rush 72.
@adrianofthewest9 ай бұрын
Totally agree👍
@valkilmer7249 ай бұрын
Woooo !!!! So so cool!
@adrianofthewest9 ай бұрын
Yeah that hike was one of my favorites for sure🤙
@valkilmer7249 ай бұрын
How beautiful 🤩
@adrianofthewest9 ай бұрын
Epic place!
@neostephens89809 ай бұрын
I have that same tent style and my zippers aren't difficult to close. Maybe you got a bad unit.
@adrianofthewest9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think so. There’s no way they’re all that bad or they wouldn’t sell any.
@heaz329 ай бұрын
Dude, those shades.... wild man
@adrianofthewest9 ай бұрын
Haha thanks mate
@hikingwithjackieboy9 ай бұрын
Awesome hike! Thanks for sharing
@adrianofthewest9 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🙌
@hikingwithjackieboy9 ай бұрын
@@adrianofthewest you're welcome
@BackRoadsWest19 күн бұрын
Hey dude, you didn't follow the rock cariens making it a much easier descent. We didn't get our feet or fannies muddy! Plus it's near Big Water, not Kanab.
@adrianofthewest9 күн бұрын
I get lost even with a GPS lol
@BackRoadsWest19 күн бұрын
@@adrianofthewest no worries! It was entertaining watching you two scramble down those obstacles.
@CreativeStudiosFM9 ай бұрын
Good review
@adrianofthewest9 ай бұрын
Thanks🤙
@brianknapp274710 ай бұрын
Dude thanks for showing me how to set this thing up. The instructions that came with the tent are so completely nonsensical. You saved me a massive headache. Peace.✌️
@adrianofthewest10 ай бұрын
Hell yeah man, I’m glad it was helpful 🤙
@jamesdjesse10 ай бұрын
LOL....Pro Tip..."sometime you need to step on your tent to stop it from sliding" How many years did you have to study for that? LOL
@adrianofthewest10 ай бұрын
All of them haha
@kimberlynhughes365810 ай бұрын
Great tent, I want to be able to stand up in my tent though! But I can see why this is a good choice for you! I actually want the 10x10 Flex bow Deluxe model Or the 10x14, but I thought it might be harder to put up (the 10x14, I mean). For anyone know if the VX model stays just as warm in the Deluxe model because it has the extra windows.
@adrianofthewest10 ай бұрын
We first bought the 10x14 and it was absolutely HUGE. We returned it and bought the 10x10, which was still huge, but more reasonable. One thing to keep in mind is finding a site for the tent. It can get difficult to find a level place to pitch a large tent. That wasn’t something we considered until we had the 10x10. And keep in mind the size of the sandboxes at campsites (if you plan to use more developed sites, like at national parks) because I think a lot of them are only 10x10 ish. I think any canvas tent will keep you just as warm once the windows are zipped shut. Canvas does a pretty good job of holding heat. It’s nice to have extra ventilation if you need it, especially higher up in the tent to vent condensation. Good luck!
@animefan100810 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the measurements, makes it really easy to get a scale of what it is, the camera can make it really hard to get a reference.
@adrianofthewest10 ай бұрын
Glad it helped 🙌
@jeffbecraft717410 ай бұрын
Nice how much ?
@adrianofthewest10 ай бұрын
About $800👍
@PandaPictures24710 ай бұрын
Very nice review. I'm 6' 4", so I assume the tent isn't suitable for me, right? Do you have any suggestions for a tent that might fit? Thanks a lot.
@adrianofthewest10 ай бұрын
Thanks man. At 6' 4", I'd say you *might* fit, but you'd probably be in contact with the tent on both ends. If you're solo, you may be able to sleep diagonally, which should give you the space, but that might interfere with your sleeping pad, depending on its width. We ended up eventually buying the Kodiak Canvas 8.5 x 6, which is a great tent for car camping but isn't suitable for backpacking by any means (too heavy). If you want a car camping tent, I highly recommend the Kodiak 8.5 x 6. You can see a video I did on that tent here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZzUpKKamM9-nM0. Also, you might want to check out @DarwinOnthetrail. His channel is loaded with great videos and tons of info. Darwin is a taller dude, too--I think he's 6' 2". He's a true outdoorsman who has hiked about 10,000 miles and knows his shit. His channel is pretty big, so you may find a good tent on there, but if you don't, you could drop a comment or shoot him a DM in Instagram and maybe get a reply/recommendation from him. But again, his channel is >300k subs, so I wouldn't bank on him replying because he probably gets a ton of comments, etc. Good luck bro.
@KarenMiller-n4c11 ай бұрын
Question - First of all, great video. I made a reservation to camp at Big Springs #1 - wouldn't do whole loop. Any idea how far in that is? I backpack, but in my 60's and not rock scrambling any more.... Squaw canyon looked harder, so I thought an overnight in Big Springs would be easier. Fine with that stretch where there's a cable to hold onto...
@adrianofthewest10 ай бұрын
Thanks! I’m not sure how far the whole loop is. I’ve only done Peekaboo, Druid, and the section in this video.
@wesliuthy11 ай бұрын
so clean and satisfied
@adrianofthewest10 ай бұрын
🙌
@DavidH-y4k Жыл бұрын
Thanks for detailed and focused review. Re the zip, i think they are meant to be 2 hand operation.
@adrianofthewest Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Even with two hands those things caught hard. I’ve become convinced I had a defective tent, but it could just be that I’m defective lol
@josephgeorgeejr7039 Жыл бұрын
Probably made during pandemic, or u had it staked way to tight, i believe it is pronounced e swing t is silent lol, just thought id be overly critical lmao!!
@adrianofthewest Жыл бұрын
I am one of the strange people in the world who appreciates over criticality lol, so that’s all good here, mate🤙🤙
@josephgeorgeejr7039 Жыл бұрын
So you mean your a smart guy , it takes a smart man to always want know when we make a mistake, or if there is a better way of doing things, iam same way!!
@adrianofthewest Жыл бұрын
Cheers to that bother!
@josephgeorgeejr70398 ай бұрын
Yea bud after watching this again..I realize you definitely have the tent stake to tight in wrong way is why that zipper is sticking, just wanted point that out so you don't give up on the tent for wrong reasons
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
Right on, thanks man! 🤙 good looking out
@PierreSchmetz Жыл бұрын
Great !
@adrianofthewest Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Katy-Did Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! You did a detailed job and I really appreciate it!
@adrianofthewest Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad it helped you!
@josephgeorgeejr7039 Жыл бұрын
With the side poles just after first set up mark off where the pole needs to be extended
@williamfuller238911 ай бұрын
The tension on every set up is not exactly the same. Side pole extension depends on how taunt you stake the perimeter. Unlike my 10×10 model, the side poles are adjustable so extending them is not an issue. Unlike the guy says in the video, I set the poles initially shorter than I will need them to be, extending both of them after both sides are up. Just don't forget to insert them first in the sleeve which the 10×10 doesn't have.
@josephgeorgeejr70398 ай бұрын
He definitely has the 10x10 staked in a way that was causing that zipper to stick, I told him in comment, hope he didn't return it thinking it was faulty
@adrianofthewest8 ай бұрын
lol yeah I returned it a few days later. But I did get another Kodiak tent, it’s the 8x6 ish one. I like the more compact design with it being only about 4’ tall
@Ed.Sel74 Жыл бұрын
4:28 are those loops for a gear loft? I like the design.
@adrianofthewest Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if they were specifically designed for one, but they would probably work just fine.