Great video. Im a reenactor and currently building a 12th century kite shield. The wooden core is covered with several layers of linen fabrig and then coated with gesso. This recipe should work quite well on tbe rigid wooden planks. Even though the gesso could be damaged from the impact of weapons. This will be very, very interesting...
@JamesKingsilentlifeАй бұрын
That's a novel use for gesso! I've never used my paintings in battle (!) but I suspect the gesso will chip easily under those conditions. However, if your shield is primarily for show, as was so much of the beautiful armour in military museums, then it will certainly look fantastic!
@hmluxton4 ай бұрын
Nice one James that was so helpful and kind to share your techniques!
@JamesKingsilentlife3 ай бұрын
You're welcome. I hope it proves useful.
@IreneChristensen-g5u6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, it is very useful
@IreneChristensen-g5u6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. Very useful
@JamesKingsilentlife6 ай бұрын
You're welcome! So glad you saw both videos!
@lucretiaonutube6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this clear demo!
@JamesKingsilentlife6 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Be sure to check out the accompanying video about how to apply the gesso to a panel. This will help avoid common mistakes. Hope you enjoy the results!
@jimlad017 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for this video James, any thoughts on the application / choice of fixative?
@JamesKingsilentlife7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Jim! A light coat of fixative is a good idea, then store it flat, with a fine, smooth protection paper over it. If you are framing it right away there is no need to fix it at all, as the charcoal will be held by the paper fibres. Just make sure there is a gap between the drawing and the glass. Above all, don't use plexiglas for framing charcoals or pastels, as the static electricity will lift the dust from the paper.
@jimlad017 ай бұрын
@@JamesKingsilentlife Great advice, thanks very much!
@purplerider23628 ай бұрын
Can u use magnesium carbonate?
@JamesKingsilentlife8 ай бұрын
I never have, but I think it might work just fine. Try it on a small panel first.
@purplerider23628 ай бұрын
@@JamesKingsilentlife actually after commenting that. I went and made some gesso with the gym chalk glue and some white paint. It worked really well
@JamesKingsilentlife7 ай бұрын
@@purplerider2362 Hey, glad to hear it! I'll have to try that some time!
@TamaraLee-he5sd8 ай бұрын
Excellent. I really appreciate the thoughtful production, editing and valuable information you've provided in this video. I'm very grateful. One question, as an egg tempera painter I'm curious to try a larger panel such as you are using in this video. As a traditional egg tempera painter, we always apply RSG and traditional gesso on ALL sides of the panel. I presume and have been told this is to prevent warping when the RSG/gesso drys and constricts. How do you join the MDF board to the wood supports strongly enough? Just a wood glue? Do you use any screws or hardware? I didn't see any in the video. Very grateful for the information.
@JamesKingsilentlife8 ай бұрын
Hi Tamara, high quality wood glue is enough - no need for nails, but I do use clamps while the glue is drying. The mdf is 1cm thick. The wooden struts are a bit thicker than a regular canvas stretcher, and cross struts complete the reinforcement, as you can see at 2:00. I agree that priming both sides of a small board is essential to prevent warping, but it isn't necessary for my method, as long as you routinely wet the back of the board with each fresh coat.
@Jayyy6779 ай бұрын
I had always heard that applying a thin cloth or linen to the panel before the gesso was required to prevent cracking, is this not necessary?
@JamesKingsilentlife9 ай бұрын
In my long experience, no, it isn't necessary. The light sanding of the board before application of the gesso will provide enough 'tooth' for the gesso. That said, I have ocasionally used this gesso on boards prepared with canvas of various grades. I was experimenting with the texture of the canvas, while retaining the rigidity of the board. Some interesting results, but I always go back to my preferred surface of smooth gesso, as described here. The most important thing is to try out a bunch of surfaces until you find the best for your style of painting. I'm glad to have contributed to your journey!
@馬蹄香 Жыл бұрын
I would like to ask if it is possible to paint directly on a board that has been painted with Gesso without applying a coating of Damar varnish and pure gem turpentine?
@JamesKingsilentlife Жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be possible, but I would find that much too absorbent for the kind of fluid, gestural brushwork I like to use. Experiment with small panels to find the degree of absorbency that suits your technique.
@馬蹄香 Жыл бұрын
Will painting Dmar varnish on a wood board that has been primed cause the color of gesso to turn yellow or darker?
@JamesKingsilentlife Жыл бұрын
Slightly, but not such that it makes any difference in my experience.
@helenamarie4337 Жыл бұрын
great video
@221b-Maker-Street Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial- thanks so much, James. 🤍
@alurpal888 Жыл бұрын
James, do you ever glue linen on your board to create a textured surface to paint on? Process still the same pretty much?
@JamesKingsilentlife Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have done that a few times, and yes, the process stays pretty much the same.
@plantagenant Жыл бұрын
Interesting....I've never seen dammar varnish used to seal gesso. I've just use a coat or two of clear size on top of the gesso.
@irinairina64592 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This video it's very helpful
@rebeccawoodcock70392 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@rebeccawoodcock70392 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
Well done Rebecca for watching both videos! The gesso is excellent when it's applied properly.
@maruomythabt42562 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience, and I have a question, if I want to apply this way on the fabric canvas how much layers should I apply?
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use this recipe on stretched canvas, unless it is stretched over a RIGID board. The canvas weave, in this case, would provide a certain texture, which you could control according to the number of layers you apply. I'd use at least three layers, but you'll find what's good for you by experimentation on small panels. My gesso recipe is developed from sources stretching back to the middle ages, when all artists were painting on wooden supports, when they weren't painting in fresco, directly on the walls. I almost always work on MDF, fixed to bracing struts to enhance rigidity.
@jacquesomersavard72572 жыл бұрын
I made stain glass and we sign it by dremmel but I will try to make it wiht gols leaf or glold ink do you have a good recipy for that kind of subtrack the glass can be sand blasting for little area for more easy paint maybe i use diamond file for this advise please ?
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
This is outside my skill set, I'm afraid.
@sakura1sama2 жыл бұрын
Love it, what can i use for an stretched canvas?
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use this recipe on stretched canvas, unless it is stretched over a RIGID board. The canvas weave, in this case, would provide a certain texture, which you could control according to the number of layers you apply. I'd use at least three layers, but you'll find what's good for you by experimentation on small panels. My gesso recipe is developed from sources stretching back to the middle ages, when all artists were painting on wooden supports, when they weren't painting in fresco, directly on the walls. I almost always work on MDF, fixed to bracing struts to enhance rigidity.
@yulisalazar7952 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this James, this was amazingly helpful, really appreciate you doing this!
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I made this video some years ago, and it's pleasant to still be getting pats on the back for it!
@kalopori31142 жыл бұрын
Wow lovely. Can I use any white glue with chalk powder? And use it for bottle art?
@JamesKingsilentlife Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but that's way outside my realm of expertise! Have fun experimenting!
@paulmaryon90882 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you for your concise and informative video, will this mix work for gilding?
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
Never used it for that purpose, but I suppose it would work. As always, try it on an expendable test piece first!
@shitheadjohnson27972 жыл бұрын
try cornstarch glycerine and calcium sulfate, it looked like gap filler when i did it, off whitish colour. (so did ur stuff too!!! ) but im still waiting for it to crystalize in an open oven, ill be back in a couple of days ill tell you what the results of it is.
@chrisgiles80052 жыл бұрын
What brand of oil paint do you used?
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
Mostly 'Old Holland'. It's expensive, but is worth the investment, if you value your posthumous reputation! It will last for centuries when applied to a well prepared board, primed with this gesso.
@TheZainabkamil2 жыл бұрын
this is really helpful thank you
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@eileenjohnston68352 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I have been struggling with making traditional panels for egg tempera.Your video pointed out areas where I was making mistakes.
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Eileen! I'm glad to see these vids still playing their part in perpetuating the craft!
@chaircityx2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. A few questions about drying times -- yesterday I sized a birch board with RSG. I waited a few hours, sanded it lightly, then added a second coat. Later today I'll leave town and won't be able to apply gesso for another week. When I return, do I go straight to the gesso, or is another coat of RSG necessary? After the board has been gessoed -- all ten coats -- how long before I can draw on it? How long before I can apply the imprimatura? And how long before I can begin the grisaille? In other words, what is the ideal approach re: drying times? I'm getting wildly differing opinions elsewhere. Thanks.
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
I draw on gesso as soon as the last coat is dry, which means pretty much right away. Same goes for applying the imprimatura, and the grisaille. No need to wait around, in my experience. Ten coats sounds like a lot. Are you sure you need that many? What is RSG? I'm a Brit, so we might have different vocab!
@angusg2203 жыл бұрын
I was a commercial gilder for a few years and went through between 2 and 5 gallons of gesso each day. there were 2 mixes that I used, gesso grosso and gesso sottile. What is the difference? Hard gesso had 2 layers and was a stronger glue to chalk mix (3 glue : 5 chalk) and gesso sottile was a weak mix (3 glue :10 chalk) with 4 layers. I used to make around 30 metres of callico panels each day around 5' wide and 12' long. These were cut down and put under water for a minute or so before being nailed onto stretchers. Once in place and trimmed off, would be sanded wet for a glass finish and left to dry. The soft gesso was easily rubbed into any imperfections in the hard gesso and was the perfect surface. Finally, I am taking up art for the first time so the tip that I received in this was the application of mastic. Sanding between coats with gesso grosso/sottile is not necessary.
@JamesKingsilentlife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this contribution, Angus. I'm familiar with those terms. You're right, of course. On reflection, I think the word 'sanding' is no longer appropriate for the last layer or two, when the abrasive paper is extremely fine. In any case, I'll always rub the final surface of my gesso, if only to be fully acquainted with its precise quality before applying the turps/mastic and then painting on it. It is a pleasure only comparable to stroking a cat!
@Starcruise5113 жыл бұрын
That was highly entertaining James King. Apart from it being educational, and your beautiful velvet voice is so calming to listen to you so thank you 👌
@ΑΝΤΩΝΗΣΣΜΥΡΝΙΟΣ3 жыл бұрын
traditional gesso ? You had to glue a linen cloth on the wood and then to uplay the gesso. that is traditional gesso .
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
OK dude!😀
@ArtologybySaraHann3 жыл бұрын
can I consider rabbit glue as albumin??
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Sara, that's outside my experience.
@jvaldezpg3 жыл бұрын
Bety Concise and neat video. I'm planning on making a mural with egg temple. Although the wall seems pretty dry and kept indoors, could It be I still ir some drops of clove essence as a fungicide? Thank you again
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
I've never had occasion to try it, but I've heard that it works well.
@jvaldezpg3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKingsilentlife The mural si un course. Clove is fine ando .1ml/egg of ampicilina hace extender the emulsión lige exponentially!
@kokeskokeskokes3 жыл бұрын
I have a painting that lacks gesso, it is tempera straight on canvas, and nobody believes me that it is 500 years old.
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
Not entirely unbelievable. There's nothing in tempera that would rot the canvas.
@kokeskokeskokes3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKingsilentlife The cat piss present does rot it though, and the green mold isn't very good either. But, as I stated, nobody believes me anyways, and I have warned the Ministry of Culture repeatedly, as well as the National Gallery, as well as Prague Castle, where the painting originally belonged, according to 1621 art collection list. It was stolen 350 years ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWq1fZKpjceiqNU
@nidaljabarin47433 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, but before I paint (egg tempera) much better to stick very fine linen on plywood, and make gesso on the canvas when stuck on the plywood? Which linen is the best I need by weight or thickness?
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
Any raw, unbleached linen will do. The weight and thickness depends on the texture of surface you prefer. I use gesso directly on board, because I like an extremely smooth surface.
@nidaljabarin47433 жыл бұрын
Hello, can I coat with rabbit skin glue and gypsum directly on birch plywood and paint with egg tempera without linen, cloth, or other else? I am waiting for answering, thank you very much.
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for late reply. In a word: yes!
@nidaljabarin47433 жыл бұрын
Hello, can I coat with rabbit skin glue and gypsum directly on birch plywood and paint with egg tempera without linen, or other else? I am waiting for answering, thank you very much.
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
Sounds fine to me. Make sure the wood is just a little rough (light rub with sandpaper) to give the gesso something to grip on to. And remember - however much you trust someone's advice, test any unfamiliar process on small expendable panels before diving into a potential masterpiece!
@rioandras3 жыл бұрын
hi! I’m wondering if there’s an alternate ingredient or homemade gesso recipe that will work on stretched canvas - to avoid it from cracking?
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
I prefer to work on rigid surfaces, so I can't offer any advice for gesso on canvas, I'm afraid. A recipe for non-cracking gesso on a flexible surface is the holy grail for painters. I suspect that Rubens's generation used an oily lead white primer, not gesso, when painting on canvas.
@shitheadjohnson27972 жыл бұрын
maybe add some vegetable glycerine, but even then it will still crack maybe...
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
I see that You Tube has seen fit to attach a context article to this video. OK, but I never once use the term 'chemtrails'. That particular paranoia isn't part of my theme. I'm simply making an observation about the quality of the Covid era skyscape. As a museum guide, I make a living from tourism. Air travel is part of my industry. I only wish there was some way to keep the skies clear of the stripes!
@Kolobkova3 жыл бұрын
Love you painting too!!!!!
@Kolobkova3 жыл бұрын
I remember some recepies have linseed oil added.... To make oil paints more shining ( rejecting oil)..... Can we add linseed oil to this recepie?
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
I can only vouch for my recipe as presented in the video, Valentina, but your requirement could be satisfied by the part in my follow up video, (link in description) where I describe how to apply the gesso to a board, and how to make the gesso less absorbant. Whenever I use someone else's recipe for anything, I always end up tweaking it for my own use. Every painter needs to find the perfect solution for their own needs, so you should definitely give your idea a whirl. Just make sure to try it on an expendable painting, before getting too ambitious in scale. My rule of thumb is that if something is going to crack, break or otherwise fall apart, it will do so within a week. If it's still intact at that point it will probably last.
@Kolobkova3 жыл бұрын
Finally I found real made gesso recepie... Thank you.
@chetansolanki36453 жыл бұрын
Can i apply this gesso on Terracotta surface?
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
I've never tried, but I know terracotta has a tooth and absorbency which would take gesso well. It is also rigid, so there would be no danger of cracking, as long as the terracotta is fully fired and will no longer shrink. Don't put the gesso on un-fired clay, as the gesso will crack as the clay shrinks during drying. Good luck!
@peggyboyd42153 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@emzelasko15463 жыл бұрын
Hello! I am doing a replica of an Italian icon and I need to gesso the surface. It is a very details surface though! There are embellishments along the border. Should I know anything special about this gesso on non-flat surfaces? Thank you so much!
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
The only problem I could imagine would be a gradual loss of definition in the details, particularly if you are using several layers. But these details could always be resharpened with sculpting tools, once the gesso was dry, as if you were sculpting a plaster model.
@emzelasko15463 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKingsilentlife Thank you! How many layers would you recommend doing on such a detailed surface? In the end it will be mostly covered by gold leaf so I need the gesso to hold the bole.
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
@@emzelasko1546 Never having made an icon, I'd guess at just a couple of coats, but I always advise experimenting on something you don't mind messing up! Another rule of thumb is that if the gesso is going to crack, or fall off the surface, it will probably do so almost immediately, or within a week, so if it looks ok after that time you can then proceed to the real work.
@emzelasko15463 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKingsilentlife Very helpful! Thank you!
@rarerepair3 жыл бұрын
How do you make gesso putty?
@JamesKingsilentlife3 жыл бұрын
Not a clue, mate. Sorry! What are you planning to use the putty for?
@rarerepair3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKingsilentlife filling and patching on gessoed pieces. Thank you for the reply!
@agwbcfjc23 жыл бұрын
An excellent video. Pairs well with your other video on how to make Traditional Chalk Gesso. Many thanks.
@agwbcfjc23 жыл бұрын
Very clear and concise--quite useful, sir. Thank you.