I think he really thought he had lost at that point... He really has excellent manners lol

Hahaha he probably heard my dog barking and was like "WHO IS BEHIND ME?"

Thanks! And yeah both players definitely know what's up

Wow this is some analysis! Thank you for the detailed analysis of this build. Maybe I'll give it a shot and post the video :)

@@N7-SHARK 😃Yes you can. I will try, with my poor english, to explain the tactic, if you want play Lufftwaffe Doctrine. 1/ First one, block 2 maps (Villa Fiore and Two beaches). Brit have just too many fuel early on it. Fast Humber just smoke you ! 2/ Let's go on the game now. Begin Engineer + T1. 3/ Each engineer on each side. Build MG + Unlock Lufftwaffe + Unlock Fallschimpioneer + "GL HF" 🙂 4/ Manage each engineer (capture) depending on when the MG will join them. 5/ When an MG joins an engineer, parachute the Fallschimpioneer with it to accompany it. 6/ Build second MG. Same thing with second Fallschimpioneer. 7/ Take control of your half of the field and part of the opponent. Here the managment of your units is VERY important. This is the first key of your victory game. - Engineer have a good range sight (like US scout). He go to show the frontline alone. - On the same time, your MG follow behind at ~ 30-35 meters (range sight), with the Fallschim. The better stay an axis Engineer and MG pointed the travel opponent since his main base or close opponent point. - Engineer is like a mouse trap. When infantry opponent appears retry your engineer on your MG, and use Fallschim to flank or cover flank MG (depending of the field). Your MG must not be flank by another opponent unit. Manage appropriately. Stay focus !!! You need to manage that on both side. - If this is an infantry. Opponent have no choice to back up (MG suppression). - If Opponent have an MG, Forces to shoot on Engineer or Fallschim (with green undercover), and use DPS MG on maximum range to DPS/Suppression opponent MG. If your Fallschim is free => Satchel charge !!! Carefull, an US player can be use scout smoke if he unlock it. 8/ At this time, your opponent have back up on both side and understand you are strong player. Use this time to cut his side fuel. Manage your units to build a new trap for the second wave. Do not forget to put some very good location mines !!! (Advantages, Fallschimpioneer can put mine too) 9/ In same time, when you fight, do not forget : Build Grenadier + Grenadier + T1 Vet (stronger units, autoheal for fallschim, collective heal / grenades / PanzerFaust for grenadiers). 10/ Now, your opponent is unhappy (poor control map, poor fuel). He go to counter attack with all his army somewhere on one side (generally on his side fuel). He probably use mortar because he understand now yours 2 MG is a big problem ! But he don t know where yours MG have taken position. Keep attention on mortar shoot. Take you ready to change your MG position and Manage the mouvement safety with their friend (Engineer and Fallschim) to maintain surprise and traps. 11/ Both Grenadier come to help on counter attack. Use it to flank ennemies, or maintain pressure if your MG have back up, and wait MG come back on frontline. 12/ 7-9 min of your game ! You have finish the early game (strong time of Lufftwaffe Doc), and you arrive on middle game (weak time of Luffwaffe Doc). But that is great. Your opponent had a poor fuel, cannot use mass vehicule, cannot use mass infantry unit (mortar needed because of your MG). You can keep the half of map control minimum (ammos and fuel income), and continue to trap. 13/ Now, vehicule or light tank can come. Build Mortar + Fallschimjaeger + T3 + ATGun. 14/ The trap of light tank, it is yours both Grenadiers and your Fallschimjaeger. When light tank come with confidence on the front line ( too close) => Jump on it !!! => PanzerFaust !!! This is the reasons you have 2 Grenadiers and 1 Fallschimjaeger. 15/ ATGun position is your MG but versus ennemies tank. Keep it in the shadows behind the front line. Like MG at this time, it is your back up position of yours units frontline. Take ATGun to the front when the engines are broken only. 16/ Tighten the MG positions at this point in the game. The opponent will play grouped. 17/ Mortar is the ideal solution for static infantry fighting, MG positions. 18/ If your opponent is on trouble, with looses, or too poor infantry frontline, and he do not want come back on the fight ... No Mercy => Use Flares of your mortar vet1 to understand where he is => keep pressure on failures, or bomb MG/ATGun/Mortar positions ! 19/ You finish middle game (~15min). Normally, you are good on the map. Your opponent is underpressure. 20/ Your opponent have taken damage, and You’ll face 3 situations. - Opponent have continued to produce light vehicule to replace looses vs yours Panzerfausts and ATGun => T4 + Panzer IV + Panzer IV + Upgrades flanks => Opponent light tank cannot fight that => Opponent abandone. - Opponent go to be "crazy" with yours MG positions. He produce MortarSSS, artielleries pieces... => If he have many ATGun => T3 + unlock + Nebel to smoke that or open an assault on that. If he have no ATGun, or just one => T4 etc... - Opponent are afraid of your income fuel on the game. He produce elite troop with bazooka => MG + Grenadier + MG + Grenadier. Impossible for your opponent to fight and travel inside 4 MG + 5 Infantries + 1 Mortar... - Opponent saved his fuel but does not have enough to make a tank now. Then, you go to see an MG/Mortar/ATGun and 3-4 Infantries units => T4 etc... You go to have 2 Tanks when he build just 1. Your Flares Mortar show ennemies positions. Focus on the neutralization of his ATGun, to be sure that the excess of your tanks is not disputed. Be aggressive with your Grenadiers/FallschimJaeger if the tank appears to break its engine, mobility and facilitate its destruction. The opponent will give up seeing that the economy of an entire game is easily eliminated. . Lufftwaffe Doc is an early game strong power. Fallschimpioneer offers a free travel time from your mainbase. LG40 parachute can save you if you miss all the fight on both side (versus light tank and vehicule only, but not versus medium and heavy tank, not enough good percing at long range for that). Like you force the opponent to play with infantry, you may need to deal with elite troop bazooka. The reduction in the cost of strengthening doc is appreciable, because you will need more jaeger or stobtruppen. Luffwaffe Doc is very weak on middle game, like WM options without doc (just Stummel or Halftrack 221). You must be delay Allied technologies to arrive on late game. And to do that, yours MG are the keys vs infantries, and your infantries are the keys to stop vehicules tactics. . Tank Doc (8 Rad and Panther) are better, i think. Sure, on early game, you go to manage side with Engineer + MG only. But Reinforcing Grenadiers come early. And you go to build 4 Grenadiers. Or 3 + 1 Mortars if opponent love MGs too. But When you arrive on middle game. You call 2 Autoblindé 8 Rad + AtGun + T3 Vet. 8 Rad (x2) have huge DPS, huge sight range (specially with scope and vet1, with options), can take points ... It is pretty amazing. Ennemies vehicules want chase them ... And fall down on PanzerFaust of 4 Grenadiers 😅 !!! Or Opponent go to be affraid and make too many ATGun, and not enough infantries front line (he looses definitly map control when he make that). Generally, map control are so good, and when Panther appears to violate a tank ... Opponent understand and give up.

Of course! It was an awesome game

@@N7-SHARK ☺️

Thanks for watching!

Hahaha at least you watched till the end of this one lol

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!

@stevezhu4855 really solid analysis here, and i agree with everything you're saying, particularly the DAK transition to mechanized play on seeing the aussies. the mortar halftracks did a bunch of damage, but they obviously don't scale into the late game the way you like. at the end of the day, i think this game highlights that even a tiger needs support to be effective. it's not a "win button" by any means, but a wicked hard problem for your opponent to solve. really impressed with your take. if you have any interest in participating in a cast let me know.

They definitely need to be locked behind another CP or two. Lately I'm noticing that gurkhas and foot guards are pretty insane too.

I'm not sure. Open terrain favors mechanized play and ranged infantry, minimal garrisons, etc. I'll have to see if I can find some statistics.

@@N7-SHARK Maybe it's because there are really good flanks on this map lol

Yeah, I love these games that come down to the wire. Well played on both sides!

I do it to try to show as much of the field as possible, since the game limits your ability to zoom out. I also rotate the camera when I play. If you haven't tried that... Give it a shot :)

I agree, constantly rotating and panning makes it more cinematic, but also makes it almost impossible to properly follow the match

Its a huge oversight that the game doesnt allow you to instantly rotate the camera to the forward pointing position, with a single hotkey. You have to do it manually every match if you like playing with this view.

commented before finishing the video again LMFAO Yeah Sher needed that Tiger out earlier

Yeah or a P3 train a la Alpenwell

That's a good point. I'll see if I can include those in the future. Thanks!

Thanks man! Doing our best over here and always looking for more great play to highlight!

Yeah, I understand that. I try to show as much of the action as possible. Maybe I'll make a video explaining why I rotate all the time :)

Thanks man! Glad you're enjoying the casts!

Awesome! Hope it helps to be able to watch these. Sarge's discord is another great place to get advice and find teammates too

@@N7-SHARK thank you! I’ll definitely join!

Thanks man! Glad you're enjoying it

I dunno man, if you look at the stats allies have an advantage in team games, and Dak are a little behind in 1v1, but good players find a way to win. It's always frustrating to lose... Lord knows I spend plenty of time shouting at my monitor so I'm not toxic to my opponent when I scuff something up. If you hit a rough patch try a different faction or game mode... Or better yet, forget and the elo and just try something new. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but I think the balance right now is generally in a good spot, and there is no replacement for this game. Even though I too get really frustrated by it at times.

I commented this before seeing the other two Tigers come out... Oof 😂

Yeah, and the labeling on rangers mean you can't see how many zooks they have until it's too late!

Yeah when Ares said "tiger over here too" I was like wtfffffff

Can you tell me what about the mic is irritating? He was very quiet so I had to turn it up but I think he's a smart dude and great co caster so I can try to fix for next time. Without rangers this build for USF doesn't work. Commandos and paras can't replace them. In that case you need light vehicles to carry the mid game. While I know rangers are frustrating for some, I think they give USF more options than just the meta armored build. I would like to see them behind more CPs though.

@@N7-SHARK I think he echos lol

Ok gotcha. Thanks for the feedback!

that's the best way to counter USF early infantry, especially if you expect rangers. doesn't work nearly as well against brits with their litany of anti-vehicle options in the early and mid game.

I constantly go back and forth on this. It feels very strong but it's also necessary to counter infantry spam. I think if I made an adjustment it would be that it can only suppress while stationary.

Haha unless they're the other guy's... Then they're invincible!

Everyone will have a preference based on style... I prefer DAK because I like the maneuver focused, attacking style of play. I think stats would tell you DAK is weaker in 1s and stronger in team games. But the nice thing about game balance right now is that all factions are viable.

Thanks dude! Glad to hear it!

Yup. Especially the Aussie 2lbers. They'd work great in that situation!

Haha well now I'm just gonna try it every chance I get

Thanks! And yeah, we're all about positivity and getting better over here. I'm still learning too :)

Definitely some creative names in this community haha

It's probably because I'm offline... Computer is shut down (doing work on the house). What's your discord username? I'll message you

@@N7-SHARK terpeneprofile

Agree on both points. You either fully commit to rangers and have no vehicles or at, or you use them sparingly as part of a more balanced build

@@N7-SHARK Btw it was really nice that Alpenwell was there in the end to comment on the game.

I agree. I love when I get to ask these guys about their matches.

I felt the game could've swung to toilet guy, it looked like a lot of guys were going down but he had advance logistics. Resources, pop were remained fairly even because the mortar team was doing work burning Alpenwell's manpower. I think a few slight things like if the krad or half-track going down, maybe keeping the second scout alive. This could have allowed him to get solidify his AT defense. Props to Alpenwell for winning with DAK and it was entertaining seeing the half-track suppressing the entire USF.

Thanks for this... Always fun to have a question mid cast that you can't answer

Yeah I agree toilet guy was never really out of this one, even when the engagements always seemed to go alpenwell 's way

Very!

Thanks! And yeah, send it to me! Always looking for fun games to cast and learn from

@@N7-SHARK awesome! How can i send it to u

i'm in the SargeGG discord... find me and send me a message! kzbin.infoEIK-CJLrpi8?feature=share

@@N7-SHARK kick ass I will for sure when I get home from work. Thanks a lot shark.

Hahaha it didn't feel very cool when I looked over and my mortar was gone! But agreed it's pretty cheeky

@@N7-SHARK oh yeah thats for sure

Lol maybe... UMB a lot easier to say haha

Yeah the Greyhounds are a little too squishy to hard counter a WW. Maybe if you had two against one you'd take that fight. A chaffee would do better

WW are extremely strong, esp 2. Will counter even AT guns by rushing them.

Especially the way they chew up infantry... If you don't have healing they bleed you hard

Thanks!

Yeah but at least he smoked that tiger!

@@N7-SHARKbig cat hunting is peak dopamine rush

Sometimes it takes a cat (or two or three) to kill a cat

Thanks! Tell me more about the map in the build order. You think the graphic would be helpful in the breakdown?

It did! I caught it in the post match but not during the cast... Just a step slower than you!

Oh yeah. I had to turn up the mic volume so it didn't drown us out!