@@petercollins7848 thank you 😊

@@MsDenver2 hiya, we do a few German brands. If adding an extra pair of socks you may need half a size higher, but as always we would recommend coming to try. If you measure your boot like in the video while wearing the socks we and let me know in cm I could make a guess at your size. We still recommend coming in for a full trial

@@robbiemayhew certain feels fully windproof and I would it is definitely more of a belay jacket than a layering piece. I used in in scottish winters quite a lot and so impressed with it's warmth to weight ratio.

@@jonuiuc the xenair is the most breathable and best for living on while moving. It will keep most of the wind out but not all. The cirrus ultra is warmer than the nebula and feel more packable. Both the cirrus and nebula are very windproof and warm, some wind may get through the stitching holes but will protect from the weather more than the xenair. Hope this helps

@@phil1953 buffalo is great and works well. Twice the weight of an Oreus however very different products. If you do need anything new the is Oreus would be a good replacement for the Microlight as lighter, warmer and better in the damp. However, only if needed! Keep gear going! 👍

@@andrewstorm8240 they certainly are, do you want me to link you a few studies?

@@sebastianflynn1746 please do

@@Pachosk they have many athletes and testers taking gear up to 8000m, maybe not this jacket but they have plenty of others!

@@jimfisher7727 hi Jim 👋, glad you're happy with your kit. I have used the Oreus (a long with many others) in scottish winters and been very pleased with how warm it is. I think I would be close to being as warm as the generator alpine but not as robust as the face fabric is thinner. But the pack size and weight is far better, so prefer it. Also I rarely climb in my belay jacket so don't need it mega tough. Hope this helps !

It does indeed appreciate the reply, definitely food for thought! ​@@OutsideHathersage

@@owengee7415 not really, totally under stand it's limitations. If I ever end up climbing in it I would take care but nearly always only wear it for belaying. Obviously the Fitzroy is more durable but heavier. On the big peaks the atheles have worn it under shells at certain times when really cold. Hope this helps.

@@cbgny23 1. I will get back to you! 2. No other colours due for at least a year 3. Again, no for at least a year but they make a vest without a hood. 4. Not yet, altough I think they will expand the use of Aetherm as they are so pleased with it

@@DukeandDrummond very valid point and we all need to think about our consumption. It's not perfect but this jacket is nearly all made of recycled materials

On the other hand, a lot of people are allergic to down (even if they don’t know it sometimes) which reduces the reasonable options.

For Eco-friendliness, I'd rather be asking about durability of the insulation. From the past for example Primaloft Gold was an example of a great insulation that lost its properties rather quickly.

This is over simplified and takes an alarmist approach to microplastics, at the moment we don't have a clear understanding of the health and environmental impacts of microplastics. An equally valid argument could be made against any animal products such as down and wool due to the environmental impact the animals have, depending on how you calculate the fibres impact you cna come to whatever conclusion is most convenient for your argument. There is also plenty of research and products already out using bio derived and bio degradable polymers. Don't write anything off, and to be frank, try not to have too strong of an opinion in this area, if you do have one most likely misinformed to some extent. At the moment the research is still in its infancy and needs more time to give any clear answers.

There is also the issue of animal welfare. While down is durable and «natural», it requires animal exploitation. Live plucking and traceability is still a challenge. Future technology will hopefully solve the problems related to oil dependence and microplastics.

@@AngelGiannakos wow! Very interesting question. Honestly don't know the anwser so I'll get back to you.

@@nicholasgalpin6711 yes I sized up, they come up small if wearing over a shell. I'm using xl yet all my other clothes are large. I hope this helps

@@OutsideHathersage thanks for the swift response!

@@p.richter9592 thanks so.much for you comment. The Oreus is pretty much the best in class for your needs. The best warmth to weight ratio synthetic jacket I've used.

@@OutsideHathersage Great! Thanks. I really think I have to check out the Oreus 👍🏻👍🏻🇳🇴

Yes, that would be very interesting to know.

@@argentmastermindm5935 funny you ask about these jackets as I have tested them all. Das light is the lightest and packs smallest, Oreus is definitely warmer for a little extra weight. Nuclei is very similar yet without the metallic element of the aetherm. So once again Oreus feels warmer and warmer quicker. The cirrus ultra is nearly 200g (35%) heavier and possibly a little warmer, however it's not 35% warmer than the Oreus for sure. The cirrus ultra has more pockets etc, also has stitched through baffles so has potential to let in some wind. The Oreus feels more like something you would take no matter what as so light and protective. The Cirrus feels less like a belay jacket but maybe cosier sat on a campsite etc due to the extra size. As the oreus is thinner it could be used under a shell if needed where as the extra bulk of the cirrus ultra means that would be hard to do. Hope this helps, maybe a comparison video is needed! Come and try them all on!!

@@OutsideHathersage thanks so much for this thorough answer! A comparison video which showcases best use scenarios would be much appreciated🤩 Love your videos! Greetings from 🇳🇴

@@argentmastermindm5935 will try and find time to sort this 👍

@@OutsideHathersage Do you know if ME intends to use this new insulation in a wider range of products, something a bit beefier like the Fitzroy?

I love animals, they’re delicious

Nobody is killing🪿 for your jackets, it would be insanely expensive. Geese are killed for food in Asian markets where foul is primary source of meats. Down clothing is made from geese used for consumption. Whether you wear a down jacket or not, people will continue to eat meats they ate for thousand years.

To be specific, nothing beats down when it comes to it's warmth to weight ratio. Outside of that though, it's not so simple as it varies alot depending on what you are doing and where you are doing it.

@@rcole134 I use down clothing for everything, including my sleeping bags. My Rab Batura goose down expedition jacket, for example, is ultra-warm and totally waterproof during heavy storms of rain, sleet, snow or gales in the mountains or winter in the forests. During severe cold & storms I'll add Mountain Equipment Expedition goose down pants. It I'm mainly static for prolonged periods I'll change my Scarpa Manta boots for Rab Expedition Goose down boots, fitted inside Outdoor Research Brooks Rangers Gore-Tex overboots. For more active use while trekking or climbing, I'll pack a North Face Summit Guide Gore-Tex jacket and Mountain Equipment Senja down jacket. For winter sleeping, I use a Rab 1100 down -25C sleeping bag if in a car or tent/bivvy. If I'm sleeping on top of an exposed mountain in winter with no bivvy or tent, then I'll use a Mountain Hardwear Ghost SL -40C/-40f 800 goose down waterproof sleeping bag.

Hmmm that a first i've heard that down is water proof.I have both for for longevity and getting wet Synthetic is the way to go.

@@thrash123ful A synthetic is NOT waterproof 😂 (Unless it's a fully plastic Mac that is totally unbreathable and a sweat box). A synthetic material needs a waterproof membrane underneath the outer layer (such as Gore-Tex/sympatex etc) and then a DWR coating on the outer layer to make the water droplets 'bead'. Modern goose and duck down is also treated in a water repellent process to prevent it from absorbing water, and then the outer shell is given a waterproof & breathable membrane (such as Pertex Shield) plus an outer DWR coating. My goose down jacket 🧥 and goose down sleeping bag are both breathable and totally waterproof.

@@Globetrotter-1 All those DWR treatments are not water proof but water resistant and are temporary after a little time it wears off. Its not the down thats weather resistant its the DWR.If one was to get wet the Synthetic would dry much faster.Both have pluses and negatives depending on what you want.

I disagree and prefer down jackets for all conditions year round, winter ❄️ snow storms, severe cold weather, or heavy rains.

@@KiritSankarGupta the cirrus ultra feels warmer in testing than the Nebula. The tilt lining helps with this and also it means it feels warm quicker reflecting the heat you create. It also packs smaller than the nebula. The face fabric can stand up to abrasion quite well but could snag like all light jackets. Extra tough face fabric can add a lot of weight and take away the pack size, which is where the cirrus excels

I'm completely opposite and will always prefer down clothing in all conditions.

Apart from a goretex shell, what the hell you want. This video is for warm jackets, go search KZbin for rain jackets...

@@lesallan4042 they have, particularly Salewa. Seems to work better as a breathable warm jacket to leave on rather than a mega packable warm jacket for static use. Mainly as not as compressible as down.

@@ben2515 think would increase cost and bulk. For technical hill use its usually better if they are all separate layers. That way if you over heat yet it's still wet out you can remove the insulation layer and leave the shell. And vice versa. However a warm , waterproof jacket like to the Rab Valiance is pretty useful as a general winter jacket!

Then get a parka. Good for walking the dog and watching the kids play football and that's about it. Some people around my way even walk around in Dry Robes.

@@grahamjones2454 fair enough.

I’d put my rab expedition batura jacket against this jacket! Made in Sheffield with eider down properly made in the uk…not made in China like they are now.

coming up soon!

@@wizzoneill the Oreus video has now landed and in the comments we chat about the comparisons

@OutsideHathersage saw the vid, nice you had access to it for so long 😁

Xenair alpine is more breathable and hence more for active use. The cirrus ultra will offer more warmth for the weight and pack size but not as breathable. So the cirrus is better for static use. Hope this helps

​@@OutsideHathersageThanks

Very much a jacket built for maximum warmth for weight ratio. Pit zips at wright and cost and would lose some heat.

Down jackets were never invented for wet UK climates they were invented for dry alpine activities. Down is superior in terms of warmth and longevity whereas synthetic wears out when it's been crumpled a few thousand times whereas down is still going strong. Every type of garment has its own strengths and weaknesses .

@@border304 too right!

@@jonarific8504 I would say noticeably warmer than a nano puff. Much thicker with out being much heavier. Also warm very quickly with the tilt liner.

Thank you