The girl he "strangled" on stage says it was all a performance for the crowd and that she had fun

It's quite irritating to be de SA-ed by your boyfriend on camera, for sure

You believe an obvious abuser that has been filmed abusing people, making threats, being extremely violent, even admitted to a lot of the abuse in his very own words in his own book... you believe him over all of that evidence plus countless women who's spoken up about his abuse, people from both his crew and the set of the Heart Shaped Glasses music video confirming having witnessed his abuse. Do you know what that means? It means you have a gross celebrity crush and suffers from grave delusions. Seek help.

@@medusaslair what have you already seen, what has anyone seen, I am currently listening to his songs very often, I watch documentaries at concerts and I read his book. He has a heart, he has feelings, he has a soul, he has a voice like no other. The problem is that many just act so superficially that it's only logical who is supposed to be the bad guy from the outside, but having a deep friendship with someone who's seemingly being accused of the same thing is funny. Believe what you want, I will defend him to the bitter end 😡

@@medusaslair 'abuse' covers such a huge range of behavior from mild insults to extreme violence, so saying he's 'an abuserr' is vacuous. While there's video evidence of some mild abuse and violence - almost all on stage, mostly as part of the show - there's yet to emerge evidence of the serious sexual and violent kind a small number of women allege he did to them. ERW's absurd allegations about the HSG video set are complete fantasy; noone on his or the other crew there have supported ERW's claims. They're ludicrous, as anyone honest and familiar with the way such videos in general and that one in particular were made. His 'autobiography', ghost-written by pick-up guru Neil Strauss, is about as accurate as the Bible

​@@medusaslair You believe a fictional autobiography?

Are you insane? He's admitting that he's violent and that he was threatening her here.

@@llunavermella_bloodmoon i don’t think you understand mansons humor at all.

@@ancientchalice I've been a manson fan for a looooong time so yes, I understand his "sense of humor". You don't understand what he's saying, sweetie.

Go check out Colonel Kurtz channel, unfortunately Evan lied about loads of things.

@@elmirasmiscellaneous1129 I gave a listen to that..it's basically insufferable. Sounds like professional discrediting...and innocent people don't do that. Innocent people allow objective analysis, without deliberately snarky editorializing...That channel doesnt have much going for it objectively. It's quite nasty. I suspect "Colonel Kurtz" is in somebody's pocket.

@@sampleoffers1978 I'm not sure how much of that channel's videos you've watched. I've listened enough to know that Evan Rachel wood is not reliable in this case at all. Have you watched tons of interviews done with ppl who knew Manson and Evan Rachel Wood? Have you watched the interview with the girl who was actually on the set of Heart-shaped Glasses and said that every thing was professional and there was no rape happening since she was there when the simulated sex scene was happening? Have you watched Greta Aurora's interview when she said Evan Rachel Wood and Ilma Gore sent her emails to recruit her against Manson although she had nothing but good experiences with Manson? Have you watched Pola Weiss's interview, the model who was Manson's gf in the past and worked in some of his videos and Evan / Ilma claimed she was dead? Have you heard of the fake FBI letter that Evan faked? There is an interview with a podcastor that talks about Ilma and how she ia a grifter. All of these factual info I got from Colonel's channel. I believe Manson is innocent and part of Colonel's seeming partiality is because she believes that too. I don't think that there is any agenda behind her telling the truth. I'm not saying I'm a huge fan of her or anything but so far her videos have spread actual facts and have made sense to me, therefore I highly suggest her channel to anyone who doubts Manson's innocence. Sorry if this was too long but I feel the urge to spread the truth.

@@elmirasmiscellaneous1129 I have what's referred to in some literature as a high emotional IQ...I can tell very quickly when someone is exhibiting callousness for a sensitive topic, and approaching it in a non objective way. It's called DISCREDITING. A truthful person can actually be discredited. Part of humanity is having flaws and I'm sure Evan has them. That does not exonerate Manson though. Manson was considerably older. He supplied her with drugs, and he clearly seems to have an army of sycophants targeting this women, with professional level DISCREDITING. This is common tactic among people like woody allen, bill cosby, Alec Badwin, Johnny Depp. It's an army of professional DISCREDITORS and is serious flags of guilt. I listened to Kurtz and I find her bias and disrespectful of the topic itself, never mind Evan. That's flags of bias.

@@sampleoffers1978 hmm, I heard you but I don't necessarily agree with you. You did not provide any type of proof or evidence except for referring to your emotional IQ which I could respect but is not enough to counter-proof my arguement. Only slandering ppl like Depp, Manson and some other celebrities. The thing is I never said Manson is a saint, I wouldn't say he is. Everybody has flaws and makes mistakes but that is not the point at all. We are talking about a very specific case here, Evan Rachel Wood and Manson. In this particular case based on whatever evidence I have seen Evan seems to be a false accuser. Bringing up other celebs names or telling me you have a high emotional IQ doesn't really help. In this particular case, ERW lied and still is. Johnny Depp, after all the things we have heard and seen doesn't seem to be the monster Amber Heard tried to paint him as. She was the liar, abuser and gaslighter not him. That does not mean he is a flawless human cuz he's not however that does not take his innocence away from Heard's case. The same with Manson, he is weird and sure as hell does weird shit, even Colonel has said this many times yet someone like you accuses her of being a sycophant. Again I'm not here to defend her every word or move but when it comes to Manson she has only spread the truth. Plus point, I have been in an abusive relationship with a narcissist and I have studied them for years now. The fact that Manson was older doesn't automatically make him an abuser. ERW has been with an older man a year prior to being with Manson and also did drugs before Manson. How could could you blame it all on just Manson? The more I learn about her the more seems like she is manipulative. Last plus point, Manson's other exes have said nothing but good things about him. Two of them being Rose McGowan and Dita Von Teese, two of them were Pola Weiss and Lisa Lesuarre (not sure about the spelling), the two latter discussed their relationships on Colonel Kurtz's channel. Doesn't seem to me that Manson had a pattern of abuse which is usually the case with abusive ppl but ERW has issues with her ex-husband who again lied to because of the child custody. She seems to have a pattern of lying and manipulation.

Yeah, the only tiny violent in it, is to break the glasses, nothing else, `cos Manson is innocent

That’s just being Gothic.

@@RuskoKain manson's a r4pist and an abuser.

@@RuskoKain The implication seems to be that he would punch her in the face.

And what will you say when the DA doesn't press charges?

Evan lied.

@@elmirasmiscellaneous1129 - No, honey, it's you suffering delusions.

@@medusaslair who's delusional? There was an entire room full of eyewitnesses. The only ones who've spoken publicly say that there was no actual penetration, it was all faked for the cameras. It really seems like Evan is lying

The divorce and break up fucked him up

Funny when they split, he made a comeback musically

And his 2007 and 2009 albums are actually better than his last two albums

@@Cum007 Seriously? His last superb album was Holy Wood, in terms of music and themes

Él es el diabólico.

@@llunavermella_bloodmoon él no engaña a nadie, ella ya sabia lo que hacia, la chica joven que queria probar con el chico malo, quería experimentar, si ahora si se arrepiente , es cosa de ella, que no eche las culpa a otros, es el pasado de ella y tiene que dar la cara, ella sabia lo que habia, MM no engaña a nadie, o acaso tu hubieras ido con él? además las apariencias engañan, y en este mundo el que es malo malo, no lo va diciendo en voz alta, y si lo dice, mucho ruido y pocas nueces

What about that female mysogynist?

It would be weird if you didn't.

same

yes

The allegations seem like bs after a lot of what I’m finding out, or at least over fabricated. So I believe more that Manson is innocent.

@@pancakeboi6797 what about that pic, ashley.cropped and is used now against her, the bruised hand, which ended up being a males.. 🤣🤣

He never said they met on set.

That’s An Interesting Question.And By The Way I Don’t Think He Has Gotten Of Off Drugs And Alcohol

@@spacemonkey1924 he has, but since these allegations have occurred, I'm concerned if he's relapsed or not...

@@shaymary5247 really Cause I Heard From A Close Friend Who Went To A Manson Show Recently In 2019 And He Told Me Manson Was High As Fuck And Sounded Horrible.And Yea Now Because Of These Allegations He Will Definitely Move ToThose Drugs

@@spacemonkey1924 I hope ERW & Amber rot from Karma's whiplash... Nemesis will also be pissed. And I can't wait!

@@spacemonkey1924 2019 was like 15 months ago.

You speak for her or for him?

@@GemPotagueule maybe even both, it doesn't really matter anymore.

I honestly don’t know what to believe at this point

@@jovictor I mean, the com is 2days old so, I assumed it was "important" for you (not in a vital way but meaningful for you at least)

I stand with Manson Evan ruined him

Exactly

Always will love MM,

What he described was not love toward another person. It's just pure narcissism. When he looks at her, all he sees is himself ("we are twins"). And he threatened her that the day she will not reach his expectations, he will physically hurt her. Just because it sounds passionate does not mean it is love. I see a lot of red flags there.

@@mirellalastar oh?.tell.us wise one,.since u were there..

@@legendofzeldafolyphe lmao, heated / triggered much?? U need to research a bit more hun and maybe leave your emotions out of it lol. I love the guy, but went 50/50 and did my.own research etc, and now at 100% on his side. Maybe try again when youre.not so.heated.or fresh from something that may trigger you 👍

I understand you completely. I've been a fan of his music, a huge fan, for most of my life now. And I think these things coming out are not hard to believe. I think people are clinging to him out of fear. Fear that they have to give up what his music is supposed to mean, you know? It took me a while to rationalize that. It was a shock, but it's not at all surprising. A lot of his music and videos in the past 14 years are about violence against a woman. A lot of stuff he said in interviews hint at that too. We just were so inclined to dismiss it because we're fans, because it would break our hearts. It's easier to see all of it as "uncomprehended art" than to see it as an expression of who he is.

You know that when you're 19 you're an adult not an underage kid and you can't groom an adult with full faculties. Also she chased him not the other way around. She was fully consensual and into this relationship. All the lies will be exposed sooner or later.

@@philippillis9393 I find it strange to say a 19 year old was groomed as well. She seemed mature for her age as well but who knows. Something about the accusations especially the girl from game of thrones doesn't sit well with me. If she never spoke up & told him she didn't like what was going on, wasn't into it, it made her uncomfortable, etc. Then shouldn't he think she is into it just like he is? How is he supposed to know it's not consensual if she never says no, stop, wait or anything to let him know otherwise?

@@philippillis9393, I am saying that they met before she was 19. She was underage when she met him, but they had this "friendship" that magically transformed into a romantic relationship when she got 19!

@@gabrielpetroni8347, You are so right. It was in plain sight, but we didn't want to see it.

It's a threat. Not ok at all.

lies

@transwomen are sexist men that’s very ironic, comin from you, since your Channel name is “trans women are sexist men” haha 😂 , if anyone needs to get a fucking brain, it’s you, hahahah, I am completely deceased but no worries, I shall resurrect haha 😂 good god 😂😂😂

@transwomen are sexist men I know what irony means, I don’t need some lowlife to tell me what to do or explain to me what is and what I should learn.

@transwomen are sexist men again, I know what these are. Don’t tell me what to do, what to learn to, etc etc.

One accuser stole a stock photo & claimed it was evidence

She was 19 so an adult, u can't groom an adult. She wasn't groomed. She was into that stuff please. But there's an investigation now so we'll know she's a liar

@@philippillis9393 Just turned 18 and other celebrity and non have spoken out as well.

@transwomen are sexist men your nickname is gross and says a lot abort this whole thing. You new feminists are dangerous.

@transwomen are sexist men next of what? Unlike you I do not discriminate people because of their gender and I am not a transphobe.

@@philippillis9393 People aren't born trans, it's an idea that people get when they have failed as their born sex.