What a buck of phony woke pissants. These guys lived in the era where saying th N-word & Ret-rd was the norm. Probably laughed at the jokes too. Now they pretend to be offended by it. GTFO here!

47:20 nah i'm not gonna play until i get a full step by step tutorial trial and error smashing head into a brick wall with terrible feedback is not gameplay especially considering there's no gamedesign language in it, it's all absolutely nothing like any normal game. it just got rereleaseв and i think when releasing such old things the publisher should include a new manual to explain the madness. they did that anyway when they were called nintoomba power and costed more cash

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Do you guys still upload videos? Just found out about this channel and watched the whole video, loved your thoughts on the game. I randomly decided on a whim to try to beat all of the Might and Magic games and just recently beat MM1 for the Macintosh. It looks and feels the best out all of the versions I tried imo, I really enjoyed it. It's insane how many hours I put into this game. I did love the "griddiness" of the world, each section of the map felt like a puzzle of an even larger one that was slowly pieced together. Loved the twist about the world too.

EV was one of the first computer games I got to play. Before that it was win95 default games I think. I was a homeschooled kid in the 90s, and we frequently went to spend the day with friends. Unfortunately I don't remember his name. We rode bikes, played EV and went fishing in the neighborhood retention ponds. That's what EV means to me. Much later I found EVN after college in 2012 or so, played the hell out of it, did everything there is to do and worked on modding projects. The reason I'm at this video right now is that about two days ago I decided that I wanted a programming side project, in addition to my main projects, and that an EV clone was about the easiest possible goal. I can do it entirely in python with no need to opengl. Will I actually finish this project? Unlikely. But maybe. I'm thinking between 6 and 12 months, depending on how badly I succumb to feature creep. You'll know it if you see it on steam, and the price will be <$10. Also, I should specify that it's more properly going to be an EVN clone than an EV clone, because stories are important to me.

It's not a 3-hour game if you're 10 years old when you play it 8D

"don't expect lotr level storytelling in m&m1" sir don't underestimate my powerful imagination old man

This game truly brings tears to my eyes. I first encountered it on the Apple II in 1986. The world-building in this game was so impressive that I purchased an original copy from Aproman(Korean Software Publisher on that time). With the proper manual, I enjoyed the game, though its high difficulty made me consider using a sector editor. However, Aproman had implemented kind of some protections that prevented such editing, so I couldn't progress far. Nonetheless, magazine articles detailed later stages of the game, revealing a storyline as captivating as 'The Lord of the Rings.' It's truly the game of my middle school life.

Without Wizardry first being made, these problems wouldn't have been highlighted so they wouldn't be fixed in newer games. 😇

Music. I expected you to talk about Munt with MIDI. You can really up the music level using the free software Munt, which emulates the ol' Roland MT-32. Much more fully "orchestral." Some sound effects also use it. Then you add a 1 in the OTHER config file where it just says MIDI= ... or at least there's another file in the GOG version. It's full of DOSBox options, sooo yeah. That file. Robert's your father's brother! You have a full-on digital synthesizer at any game's disposal. For Darklands I didn't have to set up anything more .. Altho when you first use it you do have to tell Munt where to find the ROMs, and choose which ROM set you want to use. Simple enough, there's several variant options. You can then just let Munt silently run in the background, then when any game looks for a MIDI device it'll wake up and say OH! Here I am ............. In fact, you can take advantage of this to make music by routing MIDI from music software to it. After all, the Roland MT-32 is a full-on digital synthesizer under the hood, not simple a "sound card." It just has virtually no controls LOL

I've had it for some time and have looked at it a bit, but a few days ago I decided to actually play. I even printed out the manual. Yes, seriously. And reference sheets and the map on matte photo paper. Hush! I have to use a magnifying glass with the map. Considering re-printing it on two sheets to embiggen it. Finally made a party that was doing okay, when they fell into a pit trap in a mine and, while trying to escape, my alchemest-cleric got vaporized by lava. .... Yay ... BUT!! I forgot to save before exiting the game. Yes really, not (consciously) deliberately. I totally expected her to be gone when I loaded the save yesterady. YAY! ... However, I'm considering replacing her anyhow cuz she sux, despite her high skill levels. For some reason she started with one -- ONE -- formula. She was 40 and a 2x Master Alchemist turned merchant. ... Wait. Maybe it was the final "merchant" career that doomed the number of known formulas. formulas, cuz the previous lesser-trained alchemists I made had way more. I bet final equipment is likely only based ont THAT, not previous aquisitions. Just now thought of that. Dang. I'm not "power-building" a party. I'm creating character as the whim takes me, with a little story about them in my head. Nobleman tried to become a knight but failed, became a vagrant, then joined a monestary. Etc. AND I set their skills each time to reflect the career chosen for those 5 years - mostly.

I got up to level 2-3 and cast a stone spell on a dwarf. “The Spell backfired! You turned to stone! You died!” Dammit. And that was the last time I played.

Just got into the game today and even with no idea what I was doing I still had fun, looking forward to playing again after watching this video Thank you for showing everyone how to get into these games

I never read the books but still found it fascinating as a boy. Loved the shuba and all the weird science fantasy.

Time for this banger again 😂

I played a little bit of Might and Magic back in the day, but always just die a lot. I recently got the collection, so I am happy for this video.

I played this for the first time with my brother when we were boys. We spent days on DOS playing it and it has such a nostalgic feeling to it almost 30 years later. Like traveling in a time machine every time I boot it up. Glad I have it on DOSBox to play anytime I want

I believe these old games were designed so we couldn't beat them. Ever play Diablo? Forget it Thanks for posting!

Like an evil dungeon master, I’m just watching and smiling at the “especially long hallway.” ;)

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Lol if you guys want to reboot back in time, I am planning on doing a let’s play of the original Deathlord. And I shall be using my party of choice. Ryoshi Yakuza Shisai Genkai Mahotsukai Shisai. I am in your discord, this is my favorite CRPG of all time. And I do indeed love to grind in this (in my mind, perfect) game. Although I cannot find my save disk that has my level 24 party in it. But that’s what a restart is all about lol. Starting from scratch. I am 51 years old, and I probably had an easier time getting into this game because of my background in playing Dungeons & Dragons since 1980, a little bit of Oriental adventures, my brother having a little two book adventure from Advanced Dungeons & Dragons oriental adventures called warlords, and our family getting cable in 1986. I am definitely a super fan lol. And I have never won the game yet. And it’s about time that I did. Listened to the whole hour and a half by the way!

Maybe the first side scrolling beatem up!!! 😮 is it me or does it like he's using a nunchaku sometimes?

I played Ascendancy a bit before finding this video, and while I'm not as harsh on it (in fact I still play once in a while and played a little last night) I'd have to agree with you both. The game's a ball of fluff; it has cool art, interesting lore for the different species, all these gadgets with neat effects to put on your ship, and tries to present this sense of wonder and discovery, but the gameplay just doesn't live up to it. The mechanics are all surface level and don't give you enough tools to make interesting decisions, which feels worse when the species seem unique enough that they should play noticeably different from each other. I actually did win some games...which I'd say was my "pit" as you call it, because the first time I won I was very surprised and I didn't feel like I really did anything to win. I think it was because I was allied with someone bigger then me, which eventually triggered either a control of systems or allied all races victory, don't remember which. Part of the problem, if I'm remembering correctly, is control of a system doesn't require you to colonize a planet and if you have a ship in a system when no one else is there you own that system, meaning by just scouting around enough you can win (I suspect I'm right considering the TV Tropes page says a win condition is exploring 2/3 of the galaxy, even though it's actually controlling 2/3). By the way, winning doesn't end the game either; it just gives you a score and then let's you keep playing (don't know if you can win twice in one game by reaching a different victory condition, I never got "that" far in a game). I think that's all I had to say about this game; I wish someone could expand upon this game with a mod or something, but the game's probably too old or tricky to mod for people to consider doing that. Thanks for reading all that, and have a great day!

I cracked and released the appleII version (USAlliance) in 1988. No idea why I remember this but the crack was a simple d0 maybe? to a NOP to get past the protection. Older me is horrified I did this but man those were fun times.

I played the HELL out of this game when I was a kid!

What the heck is a “T” card??

@13:30 The language and terminology makes perfect sense...but you have to think outside of English or bust open a dictionary. "Grunespreke" is bastardized German for "green speak," for example. "Kiniport" - think "kinetic" and "teleport." "Pense" comes from "pensive." Even the rabbits are called "Lapan" (corrupted form of the Latin word for "rabbit") and the monkeys are called "sima" (think "simian"). Even "Kindar" is a corruption of the German "Kinder" (hence why the school is called a GARDEN) and "Erdling" uses the German root of "Erd" (Earth). There's a lot of this in the books where you can spot corrupted German, French, Latin, and Hebrew if you have a bit of linguistic geek. Snyder was showing off some of her schoolteacher background.

One of the first games I started playing

Yes, the books were a hippie's utopia. However, they are a refreshing change from the usual YA formula in that it's not violent overthrow of the system or some grand battle, but mere a few key truths that blow the whole thing open. And that the whole "collapse of the oppressive system" is done at the end of the first book (and finished off by the end of the second), and a great deal of it is dedicated to the "now what" after the big injustice has been exposed and the oppressed people free. This game was genius for 1984. Being a modder and a tech now, I'm stunned by how many things this game managed with the limits of the era; features that we really didn't see until the 2000s or 2010s. The relatively open world exploration, multiple paths and options to get to the end goal. Different methods of winning the game. The choice of player character, the NPC characters reacting differently based on your race/gender/age of character, game mechanics working differently (Pomma needing more rest and Genaa needing a lot more work to boost spirit), even HIDDEN stats and mechanics based on the character choice.

What's a good similar game from later on?

Oh man i remember i got this game and had no clue what to do.. A year or two later i got the cluebook and wow.. I started buying every SSI gold box i could find back then that worked on my tandy 1000.. Great time great game

Was there ever a game that was similar but less detailed? I have a vague memory of a game that involved a character entering a house and encountering a staircase, but it was a sideview. Kind of like "Aztec," but even simpler rendering.

Great game. Stupid ending.

The most pain in the butt part of this game was the fact that higher character levels were virtually impossible to reach. I think level 20 was 1,750,000 XP or something, but you didn't earn much XP in battles. I tried to resort to hacking the game somehow, but I was such a novice at programming.

I have not played this game in over 30 years.

Toys r us pulled that from retail for lust, yet they carried Space Quest 3, two years later that had the most graphic and explicitly violent death scenes and messages that not only had plenty of blood but detailed gore as best could be done in EGA

I played this game to death. A theory I have is that when you find a scientist, you can cross that entire 'region' on the back of the manual out of your search list. One per region. Don't go North in November unless you have snow tires :)

My friend has this on the Atari ST so I ran out and bought the PC port. I now own an Atari ST with this game :)

EGA version >>>>> VGA version

I played this game on my Apple II when I was young (I was born in 72, my father owned a Commodore PET and my uncle owned an Apple II, both before I was 10 years old). I played this game without knowing it's history or knowing anything about Snyder's books. I 100% emotionally attached to this game and it is one of my favorite nostalgic trips i my life. It was a pirated copy so I didn't have the instruction book I played completely blind and to this day I still love to re-watch Un (from Unplayedathing youtube channel) play this game to the end. I appreciate you guys covering this game in such an indepth way but (opinions and buttholes) I wholehartedly disagree that you need to read the books to enjoy this. I couldn't disagree more. Oh well. Cheers!

Thanks for highlighting this game which is a classic from my youth. FYI Cleric is probably the best class in the game between Create Food & Water, healing, and the almighty Spiritual Hammer - which breaks the game if you're interested in that kind of thing.

Oh man you guys, the combat is the best part! Hunting pirates, picking a side in the civil war, working your way up to a Kestrel, fighting the aliens and getting a cruiser, just becoming the biggest badass in the galaxy and dominating systems with prototype weapons and a fleet of cruisers

Great review of a great game. Thanks!

I like the fact it has an eating AND resting mechanic together. Bit disappointed you trash this idea.

I can't believe you said you played "all versions" and left out the Atari 8-bit version.

As I recall, this game the first of the Origin games NOT to be sprite based. Instead, they actually rendered textured polygons on the CPU (GPUs were not around). Also the terrain was really bad because again it was polygon based and mostly gouraud shaded (each vertex of the triangle has a color, which is then interpolated across the face) with some occasional lo-res texturing. The development of the engine was the source of many release delays to the point they even joked about it in the manual/magazine that came with the game.

40+ years layterr: Still such a crap game! Amazing sound effectct "schutz schutz schutz disch disch disch!"-repeat!

Legend of Might and Magic was 3DO’s try at a live MMO. It was great, but small in scale.