John Towers got his wish in the end. Buy Rover/MG and milk all the funds for his and his buddies golden parachute. Also at 21:42 With 'peace and love' go eff yourself. You are egotistical as shit my guy. You got your grubby mitts on it and ruined what last chance the 2 marks could of had.
@DIMASTAMPOLHDHS2 ай бұрын
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@aibohex2 ай бұрын
When Quentin Wilson was one of us.
@learto-amigo6 ай бұрын
Bro this is the most abandoned car that i have ever, seen poor Citroen.
@DIMASTAMPOLHDHS7 ай бұрын
19:18
@owenevans838 ай бұрын
Tedious obsession with Britishness that even James May slagged off when the 75 came out. I wish Rover was still going but stuff like that makes you question if they deserved it after all.
@mikeluscher1599 ай бұрын
Jeremy's hair 😅
@garyreid78658 ай бұрын
his hair is not good at being hair
@mikeluscher1599 ай бұрын
I think I caught the list of OG Top Gear presenters? I remember Quentin Wilson's coverage of the 200 launch
@tris710 ай бұрын
Jesus. I honestly thought this was a spoof!! I used to think Rover died because of poor investment etc etc now I’m sure it was the workers. school boy jokers that seemed to have forgotten they were at work not in the playground!!!
@darendalton85610 ай бұрын
Management was absolutely appalling in landrover and rover cars
@tris710 ай бұрын
Yes but the way the workers seem to have forgotten that they are at a place of work, they're acting like a bunch of jokers. I can see why management gave up @@darendalton856
@owenevans838 ай бұрын
Same
@gemspotting625210 ай бұрын
Rover was dead long before BMW rocked up - they killed the whole lot in the seventies through a chronic lack of investment
@bobhooper398211 ай бұрын
12:41 that didn’t sound good want he said 😮🤣
@JonathanHealy-o7k11 ай бұрын
Brilliant documentary. This series should be watched by all students of business to learn how not to run a car company. The attitude of the British Rover workers in Bavaria -- immaturely laughing and joking about, there to get pissed and have a good time and not participate, while the bemused German BMW workers were conscientiously problem-solving -- speaks volumes about the very disparate mindsets. It's a great shame, as Rover was in a good position in 1995 with the new, well-received Rover 200 and 400 models, the 600 selling well and a new MGF. Within a decade, they'd be no more.
@joellamoureux791411 ай бұрын
My those are large beers for breakfast😊
@rxy2580 Жыл бұрын
Rover never had a chance. There cars are of no comparison to BMW in quality or engineering. Rover went bust for a reason. Nobody wanted to buy there cars
@ianpumphrey5041 Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid BMW were in for what they could get, Range Rover tech and money, mini and a factory in the UK. How Rover failed was only helped by the above factors, oh and the UK government looking the other way...
@rxy2580 Жыл бұрын
John Towers, what a tit
@richardjackson2560 Жыл бұрын
They should have used the Rover name on the 600 and 800 series cars, but resurected the Austin name on the 200 and kept it on the Metro, thus aiming the right cars at the right market sector.... perhaps....
@scottgiam6348 Жыл бұрын
BMW wanted the MINI Brand wasnt really interested in Rover , sad but true .. towers was right they would have been better staying with honda
@victortaveira827111 ай бұрын
Honda didn’t want Rover too. It’s Towers and alike that killed Rover since 70’s.
@lukedavis436 Жыл бұрын
I can at least thank BMW for using their much more reliable engines in the P38 making it... Less unreliable
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
That Asian guy would do my fcukin head in working alongside him
@hamster639 Жыл бұрын
And to think people can just use a drone now
@johnchristmas7522 Жыл бұрын
this shows over and over, just how incapable "management" was. Always aiming low, never driven by the engineer but by the accountant. Ever seen an accountant drive a Trabant? No they drive BMW's says it all, and is proof of very very poor management. HOW MANY OF THE 'MANAGEMENT' HAD A DEGREE IN ENGINEERING AND DESIGN? NONE.
@Sorted7 Жыл бұрын
This shows everything that was wrong with rover. The 200 and 400 were good cars but they focused everything on fuddy duddy ‘Britishness’ rather than it being a good car. The 200vi should have been more edgy and more of the direction they went it. Keep the wood if u need to but bigger wheels and a bit more racey and promote it as that not as a lounge chair!
@chapatanet Жыл бұрын
Arranca al toque fijo
@chucky2316 Жыл бұрын
BMW is cack
@Rich-bb5gp Жыл бұрын
So let me get this right, Rover had two long term image problems: flaky cars and an "Old person" image. So they solved this problem by passing over the ad that highlighted the improved static qualities of the 200 and which made no assumptions about what kind of person a Rover 200 driver should be, in favour of one starring a young fogey who's set in his ways. Genius! What could possibly go wrong...
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
The attitude of the English workers comes across awful- “we like what we like and we aren’t going to change or try anything new..”. As for “pudding” that’s an English thing, everyone else calls it’s dessert. No one foreign would know what they meant but they’re so unself-aware they couldn’t see this
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
Why would you offer up German food in England like this? Utterly ridiculous. If I was in a different country I want to try the local cuisine
@andyb3666 Жыл бұрын
Germans know what they like and know that they do it best 😂
@gleng6812 Жыл бұрын
Doing the Germans a Favour! 😂
@gleng6812 Жыл бұрын
Doing the Germans a Favour! 😂
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
5 breaks in ten hours? Sounds good to me
@SentinelSays9 ай бұрын
Shame they are normally around 10 min breaks. I speak from experience there 😅
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
I’m beginning to see why rover cars had so many quality issues. That line operation looks terrible
@hamster639 Жыл бұрын
Well systems 1 and 2 were built for the metro and mini so were ancient. System 3 which isn't shown in this video was far more modern, a lot of Honda input as it built both honda and rover models at 60 an hour.
@Reparaturkanal Жыл бұрын
4:25 - Style-conscious press...
@AndyRRR0791 Жыл бұрын
They spent too much time worrying about Britishness and not enough producing the best damn thing that could be made for the money.
@Ben-jq5oo Жыл бұрын
Yes. If the workers were truly proud to be British they would have upped the build quality and lobbied management, through their shop stewards, to increase spend per vehicle to enable decent rust proofing for example. This way their product would have competed more successfully with those from VW. They would have kept more repeat customers and not gained a poor reputation. A bit of creative thinking applied and management could have bought in a new Golf mk1, stripped it down along side an Allegro and gone from there. Very sad.
@andyb3666 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-jq5oo you’re talking about 20 years before this though.
@leighbyrne1 Жыл бұрын
Absolute amateur hour in fact embarrassing no wonder they failed.
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
Having known what happened subsequently you can absolutely see how and why things went belly up fast. I reckon BMW didn’t realise actually how bad things were in rover and how far behind they were. Without Honda there was nothing much there at this stage
@leighbyrne1 Жыл бұрын
@@mfitzy100 Yeah I have to agree all Rover produced was shiteboxes at that stage.
@darendalton85610 ай бұрын
Ask John towers how he hid all the faults on rolling road from bmw pushing cars off the track before wolfganger arrived
@golfy808 Жыл бұрын
Bavarian Motor Works...how can they get the intro so wrong 😢
@chucky2316 Жыл бұрын
Like the cars wrong
@neilmustow368 Жыл бұрын
Remember this episode secret testing the Land Rover Freelander
@davarosmith1334 Жыл бұрын
BMW ripped Rover off, They got the new Mini and know-how of the Land Rover for there own 4 X 4. They also took the Rover 25 replacement car and made the new 1 series! The phoenix 4 put the final nail in the coffin, those 4 bastard's have a lot to answer for!
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
Not really, that’s business. They owned the company so called the shots
@chucky2316 Жыл бұрын
Yep all the X drive tech aswell as early m5s were rubbish , they have nothing to gloat about
@johnchristmas7522 Жыл бұрын
The point here is, WHY DIDN'T ROVER MANAGEMENT SEE THE SAME AS BMW?????????
@ep19292 ай бұрын
How could they have "ripped them off"? BMW were the owners of Longbridge at the time, it was up to them what bits they kept or sold off.
@matthewgodwin3050 Жыл бұрын
Team leaders criticising keen new employees for working too quickly perfectly epitomises what finally brought Rover Group to its knees. We should and could have done so much better. Pity really. And I speak as an ex Rover Group employee, although I worked in sales rather than production.
@johnathankain8033 Жыл бұрын
If someone want to know why rover failed - this shows it in all its glory. Smug and condescending of their customers and competitors with a healthy dose of jokes at the Italians expense.
@QuoPaperPlane10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the Italians didn't take offence. After all, if we can laugh at ourselves then we can laugh at others or is that too British for you?
@davarosmith1334 Жыл бұрын
BMW plundered Rover , taking the new Mini and taking all the know how to make a decent 4x4 from the land rover. It's like eating all the decent flavour crisps and leaving a load of ready salted in the bag and saying here man help your self to a bag of crisps!
@edword7195 Жыл бұрын
BMW also took the Rover name
@MSJChem Жыл бұрын
Can you blame them? BMW were losing 25 million pounds a day with Rover. The hard truth is that Rover made cars that nobody wanted to buy, not even the British public. BMW left Rover with one billion pounds which they burned through in five years and then they went bankrupt. The real crime is the Pheonix Four who left the company with a combined 40 million pounds. They were the only real winners.
@edword7195 Жыл бұрын
No can't blame, the government did not support car industry like the German, French Japanese or American. The government pretended it did not support state aid but as we have seen time and time again it does just not industry ,it just our government chose the winner to be the City rather than industry. Which may have seemed sensible at the time , in hindsight not so much
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
That’s business I’m afraid. BMW did try but the strategy was completely misguided. The low volume 75 shouldn’t have been a priority for replacement and was the wrong car completely for the market at the time
@MSJChem Жыл бұрын
@@edword7195 Well they bailed out British Leyland for long enough and saw that it was a colossal waste of taxpayers money.
@malcolmcowan9554 Жыл бұрын
Bmw kept the mini land-rover ranger rover. Gave the rest away to 4 muppets that destroyed mg rover and life's . Mclaren put bid in to save rover in 2000. he never got the company . it was given to there labour buddies that knew nothing about cars or business. I remember Quainton wilson said the workers had extra 5 years of work. people should be thankfull. Another man that help destroy rover with the top gear fools
@_Ben4810 Жыл бұрын
1:57 The briefest of glimpse of the back end of the R40/Rover 75....???
@toxy35806 ай бұрын
Definitely, I don't think the clay model was finished though as there's no bumper detail.
@_Ben4810 Жыл бұрын
Is that final big workshop Longbridge or Gaydon...???
@SentinelSays9 ай бұрын
Method builds at Longbridge. Towards the CAB of the plant off Lowhill Lane.
@_Ben4810 Жыл бұрын
What Britain did best....Producing people (in this case motoring journalists...) who thought they were so clever in their smugness of being overly-critical & slagging off the products of our own industries & poor old MG Rover...Nowhere else in the world did or does this happen...a truly British disease that even Clarkson made a career out of......🙄
@Ben-jq5oo Жыл бұрын
Spot On.
@andyb3666 Жыл бұрын
@@jemimallah sorry don’t agree to be honest. The damage was done years before BMW came along, through years & years of lack of investment in Rover Group by British Aerospace who owned it at the time & as a result being hampered by expensive Honda licensing agreements for all the cars. Given time it probably could’ve been turned round like VAG did with Skoda. But it was losing far too much cash to wait, the poor DM >GBP exchange rate was the final straw. So I would level the blame at BAe managers not Rover.
@mikem5922 Жыл бұрын
No wonder Rover went under they took advertising advice from a man in a Green corduroy suit.
@darren5595 Жыл бұрын
Rover you put the key in ignition it doesn’t turn over
@stephensmith8129 ай бұрын
I had 75 for two years with no problems
@yuglesstube Жыл бұрын
Not sacked....No. certainly not.
@yuglesstube Жыл бұрын
What a rubbish ad!
@mfitzy100 Жыл бұрын
I liked it but was very out of context seen as they didn’t even sell in the USA
@David-un7wq Жыл бұрын
Pity they didn't include a test centre for head gaskets.
@_Ben4810 Жыл бұрын
They did...It was called Lotus Cars Ltd - Project Elise...proved to be very successful when they spec'd their own head gasket.
@jamesbaggaley1460 Жыл бұрын
They wonder why Rover group failed. Bunch of amateurs fannying about.
@sonnylatchstring Жыл бұрын
And if you are then confronted with, for example, those 3 baboons from Topgear who are making fun of everything, then such an introduction has failed in advance.
@Ben-jq5oo Жыл бұрын
I stopped watching it when I realised how toxic Clarkson’s humour was. The way he used it to influence May and Hammond, along with the audience, is the definition of a malignant narcissist. No better than Trump.