A cotton buffing wheel is very inexpensive, and can be purchased with various grits of abrasive. Each grit needs a dedicated wheel of course. Brass wire wheels work well too, and do not scratch.
@vfd034452 жыл бұрын
Cotton buffing sounds like relieving me from sore muscle! thanks!
@wryanddry22664 ай бұрын
@@vfd03445 elbow grease
@jimflys22 жыл бұрын
A few thoughts. Different "lacquers" require different strippers. I had a fairly new XO trombone in the shop. I always abrade the lacquer finish to increase the stripping efficiency. After 1.5 hours in a 160 deg hot strip tank, nothing changed! I put it in my acid tank and in 5 minutes it was gone! Ceramic, epoxy, powder coat, nitro cellulose all different. Thoughts on lacquer and sound. A silver trumpet has about .5 mil thickness in plating or .0005" that's 5 ten thousandths thickness. Nitrocellulose lacquer is that same thickness after it has dried and flashed off. Epoxy lacquers, 2 parts, powder coats no not look as good and are more like .001" or more in thickness. All finishes are temporary and their last depends on care, handling and mostly a persons body chemistry. I refinish horses. See my channel. Thanks.
@brushbros2 жыл бұрын
Lacquer is the softest of all clear finishes. You should either apply multiple coats or use something harder, such as spray polyurethane instead.
@vfd034452 жыл бұрын
I see. Maybe, that's why there's some spots uncovered and oxidized. Thanks!
@brushbros2 жыл бұрын
@@vfd03445 I was a musican in Jr. and Sr. High, but a house painter in adulthood. I think the reason that lacquer is used on brass instruments is that it was previously the only clear finish except for shellac. The latter is reducible with alcohol and might be worth trying as a finish. Also, any finish can be applied with a brush or even a rag. Several coats with thinned material would work best to avoid brush marks.
@brushbros2 жыл бұрын
It is more convenient to have a round brush at the end of a stick to wisk off the lacquer, and a pot of warm water to rinse it off in.
@jamesmorrison36412 жыл бұрын
A pity this is spoiled by music that hasn't come off with the lacquer.
@VideoNash2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@VideoNash2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@billgreen98842 жыл бұрын
You would think you would have some sweet trumpet jazz music. Lol
@ldlink39352 жыл бұрын
Still no bell in this video either.....argh!
@ldlink39352 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see the bell....no where in the video you show the bell, yet mention "it has beautiful oxide layer" 1:34 . Would have been nice to see it, maybe it is in another video on your channel, I will go look. Otherwise, thanks for video.
Gracias por tus comentarios! Si bien usé varias trompetas para grabar esto, la del video es Silver Sonic, King. Me sorprende que lo notaras.
@malik-a-creeper2 жыл бұрын
Me encanta tu trompeta
@malik-a-creeper2 жыл бұрын
Porque me recimiendan esto reprntinamente? sera porque uso la misma aplicación?
@jumanaraggam82 жыл бұрын
Does this method work on the inside on the trumpet too?
@vfd034452 жыл бұрын
Yes. the workflow is the same, removing old lacquer, polishing and placing new lacquer. But, be careful not to put too much lacquer inside, as the puddle of lacquer could choke the pipe.
@llespiau2 жыл бұрын
Is the lacker is good for long time?
@vfd034452 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. Yes, lacquer nicely done will last for years. Spots where is left not covered with lacquer will discolored. Please refer to another video showing one year after the reacquiring. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHScnaCnps5lh5o
@davemiller76332 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize for your legs. If you went in a tub with clothes on you'd be wacky😂
@andyd6843 жыл бұрын
Your text flashes on the screen so fast, it cannot be read in its entirety.
@vfd034452 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. I'll add the caption more readable next time. In the mean time, you can slow down the KZbin video by clicking the settings button on KZbin and select the playback speed, so that you can watch it as kind of a slow-mo.
@llespiau3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the reference of the lacker? Is lacquer hold well. is it strong?
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
I think this lacquer is only sold in Japan, but here is the link. Maybe, somethisng similar is available in your country. The product description says: Color: clear gloss Material: nitrocellulose, acrylic, organic solvent. www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B001BFZIM8
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
One year has passed since I did this. The surface is still good and shiny regardless of my daily use.
You mention using "compound" to make the trumpet shiny-- but you don't say what that compound is. Can you please describe? Is it a basic brass polishing compound?
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
Sorry for my delayed response. You are correct. It is a basic brass polishing compound.
@popodopolos5073 жыл бұрын
would the paint remover damage the inside of the slides and valve casings?
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. The paint remover is very strong chemical. When it remains on the surface, it will affect the metal over time. Be sure to rince well with neutral detergent. Also, you don't need to apply the paint remover on where it isn't painted.
@amphidory76003 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for making this video. have you also re-lacquered the bell? any special tips for that?
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
I didn't relacquer the bell as it was unlacquerd one and had beautiful copper dioxide surface. While lacquering the bell is nothing different from other parts, be careful not to paint too thick as it may change the sound, and too thin may leave some area uncovered and insufficient from protection. The good way would be painting thin layer multiple times until it is good enough. Also when you are not satisfied with it, you can unlacquer and repeat the process.
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
Also don't forget to put something deep inside of the bell so that lacquer doesn't go into where unnecessary.
@amphidory76003 жыл бұрын
@@vfd03445 thank you. really good advice
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
@@amphidory7600 Thank you for the comments. I hope it helped.
@amphidory76003 жыл бұрын
@@vfd03445 it has
@yobentley72743 жыл бұрын
What compound are you using to remove the old lacquer?
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
I’m using compound around #4000. But in order to remove the lacquer, a chemical spray like paint remover works rather than compounds. Be careful also it does not work on plated Trumpets.
Is there a reason why you chose to not take the lacquer off the bell?
@vfd034453 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. As the lacquer inside of the bell was not so deteriorated and was in good shape, I choose not to take the lacquer off. The contrast of lacquer in dark gold against polished raw brass in bright gold is beautiful.
@Artiej0hn04 жыл бұрын
I am puzzled and indeed surprised by the decrease in the upper range as shown by your sound test. Non-lacquered brass musical instruments are generally thought of as being more responsive.
@vfd034454 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I see. I just wanted to see how sound changes scientifically before and after de-lacquering on the same instrument. I used the same mouse piece in the same room, same desk. I tried to capture the screen shot when the first peak comes to the same level.
@vfd034454 жыл бұрын
I agree it is a sound explanation that de-lacquering makes the thickness of the bell thinner/lighter and resonance frequency higher. It is worth looking into it.
@stickom4 жыл бұрын
I just strip off lacquer from the screw bell, it is french horn but single F in ni-silver. The tonal impression horn tend to be better slotted in the high register and too bright in the middle again this is a new generation of horns made in three layers silver coating on a brass plus lacquer and i am using a fairly large mouthpiece. Again i am not reference of some serious playing, i play only occasionally.
@vfd034454 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I'm curious how sound changes after de-lacquering and oxcide layer formed on ni-silver horn. How does it look like now?
@stickom4 жыл бұрын
@@vfd03445 I just noticed, it takes more time to warm up for the clear and secured high register still it is better slotted and more vibrant than before with a lacquered bell. Cosmetically, my horn is a screw bell China mass production more nickle and a trace of silver i guess, so did not tarnish yet, but I am taking fingerprints with cloth anyways (playing french horn right hand holds the bell). What i am thinking to compare is my Giardielli mouthpiece that gets haze as oppose to my old blessing that newer gets haze because it has almost no silver in coating.