Can you make the rise of Orion and fall of Orion

Im very happy i got a pic of a orion when i was in Vancouver this year. Shocked to learn that they were from 2007! i thought they were much older! Love from the Netherlands

what the hell happened to your voice

From how I see Translink's bus fleet I've always believed it was half Nova & half New Flyer just like every transit system in North America ever

Good

The 1st generation LFS is still in use in Quebec. Soo ugly!

Orion was always will be and will forever be

You're going to make a video about a bus that dominates the market and you're not even going to talk about the new flyer xcelsior?

Which one’s better? Lol

LFSes would be better buses if they didn't shake themselves to death

I remember on some very rare occasions the Orion V buses would surprisingly appear on the 404 when I was little... now that all 2001 counterparts are gone (except for 9228 which is still sitting in RTC, but it's not in revenue service anymore) I would sometimes ride the 601 to recall the good old times on the Orions... 🥲

That rear end looks familiar. What's old is new again. YES! Back in the late 70s, they were the new thing. Let me see if I can find a link to these buses. You see the back of bus in the 1970s kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5WcnISMiNpojqcsi=2NqBjCx7D9aY60xz

I thought it was the delightfully ad

0:34 no mention of Neoplan?

YAY TORONTO CONTENT

Cool 👍

I actually like those buses

Mark 1s be like i don’t want to die I want to live forever

I mean, i understand talking about Vancouver buying them, but wouldn't it make sense to use the stm since they have had around every model and have 2,000 purchased instead of smaller purchases like 141 buses

This bus is extremely ugly, I don’t understand why they don’t have such beautiful buses (like the Mercedes-Benz Citaro) in the US. Much more comfortable and way more beautiful

We only have mainly three different buses here in California, Gillig, New Flyer and MCI for our Transit services. Before we did have Grumman-Flxible, GMC-RTS, Gillig and MCI. I did like both the Grumman-Flxible and the GMC-RTS, they were my favorite buses.

More like Canada. The Gillig Phantom and Low Floor were basically ignored here. In the US, the LFS is basically nonexistent in states west of the Mississippi very rare in the South, mostly confined to the midwest and northeast.

LFS stands for Low Floor System!

I work for a transit commission in Ontario and we have a good mix of Flyers and Novas and I find I like driving both for different reasons. I like Novas and our Hybrid Novas (the only hybrids we have are Novas, we only have diesel NFs so I don't know what those hybrids are like to be fair) because the ride is smoother and it's easier for me to find a comfortable position for my short stature to sit and reach the pedals comfortably. I like the NFs because of how much quicker they are but they make it a bit harder for me to find a comfortable position where I'm not straining my foot. Our Novas are hella slow tho, don't get me wrong. But I don't mind which one I get when I go to work.

If I'm taking the Skytrains & I'm listening to music or watching KZbin videos. I would actually take off my headphones the moment I catch a Mk1 trainset & enjoy the sound it makes especially when it leaves the station. I can never get tired of listening to that 😊☺️😋

"With a Friendly but Nieve look in the front and a smooth rear" .. ok i was reading through the comments and no one has jokenly mentioned a sexy exhaust pipe. Note: I am not attracted to bus exhaust pipes or exhaust pipes of any vehicle.

As just a transit rider and petrolhead, I find it very interesting that the 1st gen and most 2nd gen LFSes had their engines pushed allll the way left. No wonder the 130s serving Metrotown, among many other routes that still have more 2nd gens than 3rds have the rear seats all bunched on the right. Also want to mention I love how the hybrid diesels sound. There's prominent turbo spooling and hybrid whine, wastegate flutter under heavy throttle and an aggressive exhaust note. Vaguely reminds me of an Eastern European diesel tank with hybrid noises thrown in

When I was young I travelled on the Hydro Bus in Langley, very cool. Thank you.

You never mentioned the Invero?

please make a new flyer video D40LF’s and D60LF’s are my favorites

Can you please do a similar video to this but for other bus models like Orion V/Vii New Flyer D40 HF/LF e.t.c?

Novabus trash

they are horrible to ride. Noisy, everything rattles, horrible body roll (body roll on turns even the slightest turns, and pitching when breaking) and the air conditioning is so weak on them. A 20 year old New Flyer is so much better.

Terrible design

These buses are some of the most unreliable buses I have ever ridden. I was on an LFS artic and it broke down at the terminal, with its rear wheel smoking. These buses consistently break down mid route here in Halifax. Edit: now we need one about the D40LF

Nova is leaving the US due to the volume of new business (Bid wins) declining and thereby barely breaking even. Also, due to the increasing volume of Canadian orders, especially from Quebec operators, it made financial sense to focus on the Canadian market. With the exception of large repeat orders from NYCTA and Chicago CTA plus large single orders from Philadelphia and Baltimore, Nova's US footprint was not significant, with almost no presence west of the Mississippi. NFI dominates the US market, but Gillig is a smaller but significant force.

You should do a History of Orion video

4:39 this used to have a clarins ad

The majority of NFTA metro buses in the system are Novabus LFS and most of them are cngs. they had some 1999-2000 Novabus lfs buses that lasted for 21 years until retirement in 2021 early 2022.

quebecker here Saint - U - Stache that’s how you say it. Saint-Eustache. Our towns are fucked 😭

Personally, I like the designs of the New Flyer Xcelsior XN40 as they look modern and proportional. The Nova buses look weird and disproportional due to their smaller wheelbase. Sure, it may mean the Nova buses has a slightly tighter turning radius, but the New Flyer buses just look better overall.

Great video It would be interesting to see it's current performance now that the line has been in operation for 6 months

Only in North America and only because of protectionism and rigged tenders (in Quebec). They are rubbish.

I would argue that the LFS isn't the most prolific bus by any stretch. I think that this title is undeniably given to the New Flyer Excelsior, as much I as despise nfi I think they are definitely the most common bus in north america hands down.

They not in Cincinnati or columbus

NovaBus is very futuristic for a bus

YOOOOO TTC GOT A SHOUT OUT! (Canadians in the replys)

1:28 Hello, I know people who live in this town, and I go there often. It’s pronounced “Saint You-Stache (as in moustache)”

I’m from NYC, and I’ll be honest, the 2011-2015 LFSes were good in terms of build quality, however after that, everything went downhill. The build quality got insanely cheap and they break down almost every single day (the newest ones mostly). The MTA ordered lots and lots of LFS HEVs from 2020-2023, and more diesels being delivered right now. In my opinion, New Flyer is a much better option right now, even though their build quality has also been getting worse over the last couple years.

That BC Ferries joke was spot on. Haha