Thank you. We will do a special review on the Rogue Triton shortly.

But here you have a solid performing turntable. No quibbles here. But remember, a lot of people are not using anything near the quality that you have. They have 50 Yr. old Technics, Sansui, Pioneer tables. Heck, even older AR turntables. That's the audience I am trying to reach. The new and unaware. I have only seen one vintage Thorens turntable in 40 years that had both a decent main bearing and a truly working tonearm. Or, could you imagine an Ania on a P1? So, you need to look at the whole picture with a lot of people just now starting into vinyl.

@@audibleeleganceinc fair enough and now i understand better the audience you are going for. All makes sense. Thankyou for reaching out and explaining.

@@omram566 In general, I try to respond to most observations and you will discover that many good points are actually found in the comments from both viewers and myself. My primary focus is to make people think about things before plinking down good money only to get bad results. So, enjoy the other 230 plus videos and share with others. Please subscribe as it helps us improve the videos.

They are exceptionally good and we have been happily selling them for years.

Well, the same could be said for a sports car vs a Ford Focus. The point of the video is that if you are going to get under the bonnet of an advanced turntable, you need the right tools to do it right. Such turntables are not for everyone, for sure. I see no issue with that. I had a customer go from an older LP12 to a Rega P3 because he was up in age and wanted something simpler. A valid move.

@@audibleeleganceinc I appreciate that. The right tools are necessary to do any job. In this instance I'd rather have a Lexus than a Morgan or a 1965 Ferrari.

@@Darrylizer1 Exactly. Personal preferences have value. That's why we have choices!

I think you state a lot of valid points here and I am glad you stated them so. There are those who are willing to make the commitment in positioning which occurs with any flat panel type speaker. Regardless, though, they can produce fine music but without the stereo image that you refer to. Much older stuff from the 60s and 70s did little towards the stereo image and in many respects, undermined it. That, in no way, kept any of us from falling in love with music. Car stereo anyone? In any event, please do share this channel with others as there are over 230 videos posted to date with many more on their way. Subscribe if you care because it allows us to continue to improve our channel. We've already made some nice leaps from the early days in both video and sound quality.

As my audience is worldwide, I do not know where you live to make a recommendation. City & Country will be very helpful.

@@audibleeleganceinc Europe, Serbia.

@@andrija2946 Well, a pleasure to meet you. I really don't know what is available in your country so I cannot answer your question. Are you 220, 240?

@@audibleeleganceinc 220

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Well, sincerely, it sometimes takes a lot of experience. Visiting dealers to listen is ok as long as you don't tie them up for hours. I would tend to avoid the big shows as the resulting displays can be all over the map but all of them will tell you it's great which leads to even more confusion. Don't assume that if it sells for more that it is better.

@@audibleeleganceinc thanks!

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@@audibleeleganceinc Will do

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It is ok to be a hobbyist and to modify things. Thinking is not a bad thing. I have one customer who modified his CJ equipment about 17 times. On the 18th time it blew up. He sent it to CJ and they were pleasantly surprised with many of his ideas and then explained to him why the 18th failed. They actually adopted some of his ideas in later productions. What is important to remember, in the end, is the purpose it is designed to serve: Bring pleasure. Please do take the time to subscribe and tell friends about our other 230 plus videos. We have many more planned and on the way.

Funny you say this as I rather model my videos after live television of the 50s and 60s. No script, very typically one take, and very little editing. Of course, there will be mistakes, misspeaks, you name it. I'm not all dressed up but show myself as a fellow human being. It might wander, it might be an old man reminiscing, yet in all of it I am trying to get people to think. I have shortened my videos because today's world does not really have much of an attention span and prefer the CNN style of information. My blogs on my website are read by a few notwithstanding that is where I do my best work. I've left my channel open for comments and some of the best information can actually be found there. I've been corrected a few times and that's ok. None of us will ever live long enough to know everything correctly. Life is Learning. I've removed a few as well as I do not tolerate insults or insults leveled on other commentors. None of this is all that important and that's coming from a husband whose wife has had 2 heart transplants in 4 years and nearly died 9 times. Many of those trips required 11 hour drives, sometimes overnight, with little notice, from SE Virginia to the Cleveland Clinic. So, yeah, I get a bit amused when someone carries on as if anything they say or do will be remembered by anyone in 50 years. So, thanks for the spot on observations from one senior to another. Sorry if I chatted to long. Enjoy the music is what it really is all about.

@@audibleeleganceinc I've had conversations with my grandchildren numerous times about social media/KZbin. I always end the talk with be careful and learn to think and make decisions on your own. Hoping your wife is doing well today, Mark

Well, some folks do. Generally speaking, they are focused around a particular frequency which is why others prefer equalizers as they are more flexible. Some even went so far as to use parametric ones. I don't quibble with those who do as it is their choice. It's like this: I can make any car faster for $25.00. Then I tell the customer let's go outside to your car so I can cut the air conditioning belt. There are some features that folks really enjoy and want to keep. It's ok. Please do take the time to subscribe and tell friends about our other 230 plus videos. We have many more planned and on the way.

Audio equipment is not a merit badge nor do possessions reveal the worth of a person. Some folks get that all confused. I have seen shops pick up expensive lines not because they have customers for them but because they can crow like a cock. Well, in business, your goal is to sell, not possess. Now, spending more does not make you and audiophile just like buying Godiva or other chocolate over Hersey's does not make you a connoisseur. It just means you like better chocolate and less wax. Please do take the time to subscribe and tell friends about our other 230 plus videos. We have many more planned and on the way.

Well, then it is a complete hobby: Finding music and finding equipment. It's the extensive collection of music that is key so long as you are not always playing the same 12 pieces. I've seen that too. Thank you for contributing your experiences to the channel. Please do tell others about it and our other 230 plus videos. I encourage you to subscribe to help us grow and improve the channel. We have many many more videos planned. I'll likely shoot some today from home.

Your approach to things is pretty much what I advise people to do. Gradual, patient, and not driven by reviews. Thank you for contributing your experiences to the channel. Please do tell others about it and our other 230 plus videos. I encourage you to subscribe to help us grow and improve the channel. We have many many more videos planned. I'll likely shoot some today from home.

Well, a lot has happened since 1993 but if you bought quality once, let that stand as the benchmark. Unless you have foam surrounds on your speakers, i don't see them giving out. It's foam that dries out and cracks that is the typical problem. I don't support re-foaming as it assumes the same flexibility that once was there. Good hunting. Thank you for contributing your experiences to the channel. Please do tell others about it and our other 230 plus videos. I encourage you to subscribe to help us grow and improve the channel. We have many many more videos planned. I'll likely shoot some today from home.

@@audibleeleganceinc I'm actually subscribed already, but admit I haven't checked the notification bell. Doing that now.

@@charlesf2804 I have been deeply tied up with our farm while my wife was in the hospital (600 miles away), again, from December 13th to January 10th. Last year she was in the hospital about 9 months total waiting for and receiving a second heart transplant. So, new ones have been a bit slow in coming. That will soon change as she can record me at home!

Here's a couple little stories for you amongst many. I have worked with a number of Cincinnati Symphony musicians over the years. The one aspect that they all share in common is that their sense of tonal balance is influenced by where they sit in the orchestra. It can also influence their choices in recordings like Deutsche Gramophone over others. Why? Because DG uses upwards from 50 to 100 microphones in the orchestra for recordings. What this delivers is massive detail and the stereo effect becomes a fiction created by the recording engineer. What they do share in common, across the board, is a keen sense of rhythm and pitch which I wholeheartedly support. What musicians can focus on, without distraction, is the quality of the performance itself and that is where it all belongs.

Musicians are the worst source for knowledge and fidelity. Very few own a decent stereo. They are into music. It might surprise you but, sound engineers also don't own stereos or play them.

@@keithmoriyama5421 I think overall, the reason that most musicians don't own "decent" systems is that they make so few dollars. What they do make goes back into their craft. Their goals are different as well and there are times that the last thing they want to do is listen to more stuff of what they do. They too need an escape. Years ago I took up horseback riding and jumping and own a few horses. They give me peace. Do I have a no holds bar system at home? Nope. My main sources of music are Sirius Radio and a Baldwin Piano. And sometimes it is agonizing when people find me in public and want to talk audio while all I am doing is grocery shopping. The other thing that makes musicians different is that their perspective of sound is based upon what they play and where they are in the group. Their interest is really in the music itself structurally, timing, and pitch. Old country musicians were, in fact, the most critical about how things sounded, not this new bunch of, essentially, 60s rockabilly tunes. I do know of a couple really well know stars who do have great systems in terms of musical capability. A couple of them I use to challenge systems I sell and if you sniff around, you will find out who I am talking about. However, I think your comment stands on firm ground. Please do take the time to subscribe and tell friends about our other 230 plus videos. We have many more planned and on the way.

Exactly. It is funny to me how many people get all tangled up in "their chosen aspect" when, in fact, most of them are unverifiable. Even the choice of microphones can have a dramatic effect on tonality itself and yet they are rarely listed in the information about the recording itself. Stereophile Magazine produced a very interesting CD on this subject with the speaker sounding very different on each one. Then, let's introduce the recording engineer and the mixing console. So, I look to rhythm first and then to pitch consistency. So, glad you can get together with friends and learn as opposed to preach. Please feel free to share this channel with others and maybe they will subscribe and enjoy not only the 230 videos already up with many many more to come.

Thank you for your comments and placing the goal of music first over equipment. Indeed, equipment can certainly sound different as can microphones. Thus, I am always a little cautious about reviews and the claims of sonic signatures without first knowing a bit about the recording itself. Please do share this channel with others and do enjoy the other 230 plus videos. I encourage you to subscribe as we have many many more videos planned.

Interestingly enough, those are a couple of the classics in my opinion. As a brick and mortar store, we work with both but, trust me, the music folks are far more interesting and sometimes bring in music that I truly enjoy. Please do share this channel with others and do enjoy the other 230 plus videos. I encourage you to subscribe as we have many many more videos planned.

You are most welcome. Or, they quote the latest hi-fi magazine without even evaluating the reviewer themselves. Then, there are the bunch that have to have a particular this or that (digital and chip sets in particular) without any appreciation of what is going on around them electrically. Yep, it's interesting. I suppose, fortunately, I have annoyed enough of them that they don't bother with me much anymore but not before posting this or that about me. Now, with this format, I am able to reach out to those who do appreciate what I have to say or observe and that is quite rewarding. Thank you for your comment.

Versions are a funny thing, really. My first experience with that was the Beatles White Album. Then, later, Mobile Fidelity came out with their "original" version on LP. That LP sounded like the most horrible AM radio I ever heard. It was brutal. Only upon investigation did I learn that what Mobile Fidelity did was absolutely correct. They pressed the unadulterated version of the original master tape. Interestingly enough, when it was produced, they realized they screwed up the equalization when making the recording so they "fixed" it at the production plant. Today, I am very much like you, I am happy to have one version and move on. I don't stream, myself, as I have already had enough experiences with questionable sources. Oh, it may be lossless I suppose, but lossless of what they transmitted remains the question. I have heard some pretty miserable examples which is why I prefer to demo from LP of CD because I at least know what I am working with. Please do share this channel with others and do enjoy the other 230 plus videos. I encourage you to subscribe as we have many many more videos planned.

Yep, music is what it is all about. The equipment is the means to get to it. If your self worth is based upon the audio equipment you own, well, let's start with that problem.

@iampuzzleman282 Well, if you're not a gearhead then just call yourself a music enthusiast.

Amen and thank you for contributing an exact answer. Please tell others about our site and certainly enjoy the other 230 or so videos. We have many more planned to enjoy.

It fine to enjoy the aspects of gear, heck, even the aesthetics. But the hobby is listening to music. Please tell others about our site and certainly enjoy the other 230 or so videos. We have many more planned to enjoy. Subscribe if you want to see more and help us improve the site.

@@audibleeleganceincI have been a subscriber for a while now. I am in the UK but I enjoy your honesty and the fact that you aren’t trying to sell your viewers anything unlike a few others on KZbin.

@@tonyjedioftheforest1364 I much prefer to educate the buyer and if I am right, they will come. Once in awhile I will feature something of merit and let the locals know I have it. I have faith in people thinking things through. Sometimes I am corrected and that's great. I appreciate learning some details that have eluded me. You will find that the comments can be more interesting than the video.

As it should be. Enjoying gear to achieving a goal in one thing. Buying and selling gear because one can buy it for 1 dollar and sell it for 2 is quite another. When I deal with customers who are already arguing price because of resale values, they are not even looking at it from the perspective of enjoying music. They are trying to prepare to buy the next thing.

Hey Kirk, it's great to hear from you. So, where in the world did you end up? I miss a lot of my customers. Each were unique and some very special.

@@audibleeleganceinc Not too far. Lexington, Kentucky. Which reminds me, Thiel speakers (built in Lexington at that time) always sounded THE best in your store! Whoever was the speaker whisperer in your showrooms for the CS3.6 and CS5 or 7?, knew what they were doing! Just couldn't afford them at that time. Enjoy that Bourbon!

@@kjaristabusch6901 That would either be Bryan or I. I really knew the Thiel speakers. I am now doing the same for the Goldenear T66s and the Totem Wind speakers.

Tom, I have owned both and enjoyed both. I've also heard vacuum tube you would swear was solid state and solid state gear that you would swear was vacuum tube. It's a funny world out there.

I had some OTL tube amps for a while and you would have almost mistaken them for solid state strictly by the sound of them. A listening friend uses OTLs presently and I get the same impression at his house. Must be the nature of the beast. Stay warm Lou.

@@thomascollins7932 With a farm, staying warm is provided by the Kentucky bourbon.

Imo you need 2 systems 1 where the music requires a fast tight controlled presentation And 1 that is softer, blooming, more harmonically rich, for the music that suits that presentation

@@crazyprayingmantis5596 It is funny that you look at it that way but not because you are wrong. In fact, the nature of music itself is divided between that which is reinforced and that which is acoustical. The presentation of either live is very different from the other. Please do share this channel with others and do enjoy the other 230 plus videos. I encourage you to subscribe as we have many many more videos planned.

Simply put, you got a lousy demonstration. I've seen this a number of times where folks have no idea what they are doing and why they are doing it. You were right to say "screw this." Years ago I personally had a similar experience with the Mecca of Audio Lyric Hi-Fi. I listened to their mega system and yeah, I didn't get it. Years later some the the best reps in the country said that that system wasn't particularly good at all. So, trust your ears. Well done.

While your approach has a general correctness to it, my personal approach is a build forward strategy recognizing that few can afford to do everything right immediately. You can see this with how many speaker manufacturers there are today. People keep shooting the messenger boy rather than understanding that it all begins in the front end. Once information is mishandled, the next piece is not going to magically restore the message. When it comes to phono cartridges, I've seen way too many people buy expensive ones only to complain about how it sounds when, in fact, it's truly doing it's job on a piece of crap turntable. We do agree that the best improvement is typically not the most expensive. I'd say that's true about 75% of the time. But, there's all sorts of old lore and new BS that people follow to the natural end of frustration.

Well, I not exactly sure that is a 100% guarantee as I prefer listen to what both tracking forcre and anti-skate does. Where we totally agree is using a real stylus pressure guage.

I am going to do a review of the Rogue Triton Phono stage with all of its settings. It will be a specialty item.

Oh, I do enjoy the looks of vintage products but the value placed on them has become absurd. Much of them are far out of spec for starters. I could go on and on but I won't. Where you raise and interesting point is servicing. Here you have to find someone who can do component level diagnostics and repair assuming the parts can be found. On the other hand, modern receivers rely on board swaps and once they are gone, which can be very quick, well, its over. With AVRs, the technology changes so quickly that they become outdated before they typically die. Of course, many can not live without remote control, want bluetooth and now streaming. That's simply not found in 60 year old equipment. So, Yin and Yang.

No, that wasn't the point of the video. I was still trying to sell it, it's just that they didn't want me selling it. A small brick and mortar store. They went mail order and houses that can do that. Gone are the days of personal care and now Naim as a company looks upon their goods like toothbrushes and peanuts. It is simply goods to move. The results are not their problem. Whatever Naim is today is not the Naim of yesteryear so don't confuse the reputation of then with the reputation of today. They are different and that's that.

@@audibleeleganceinc As I value professional care, that's the point for ME. So, Never buy Naim and trash talk Naim at all appropriate occasions is MY answer

@@michaelgothenburg364 Fair enough. I too look for professional care and found one for my car. It's a delight.

First off, active Naim SBLs are simply wonderful and will clearly outperform the Thiel 1.6s. I am of the sort where I would prefer a well organized speaker with a little less bass than a speaker that is disorganized with bass. Honestly, if you can find a way to make those SBLs active, it's worth it.

Well, this video is a little dated as she did receive a 2nd heart transplant. However, there have been complications which resulted in an emergency run from Virginia to Cleveland on December 13th. She i still in the coop and is about finished with her anti-biotic treatments for 6 different types of bacteria infections, 2 which are difficult to treat and usually fatal. We caught it incredibly early and succeeded.

@ That’s tremendous news!! And in my own unusual way, I was the recipient of a sort of serendipitous happenstance. The end of April I needed an emergency appendectomy. While sitting by myself in my ER cubicle, late at night, I was was waiting for my CAT scan results. The docs needed to confirm the appendicitis. I received the results on my phone. Ironically, the results also showed that my cancer that had been in remission for 7 years had returned. Had the appendicitis not occurred it would have been months before learning of the relapse. Continuing to wish you and your wife good fortune and positive response. Thanks

Actually, toroidal transformer design dates back to 1885. They made a fine business of it.

And one of the things that Rotel was known for for years was, of all things, power supplies.

I do not apply accounting terms to art. Now, if one chooses to spend their money that way, well, I am trying to give logical advice about it.

Tom, take a look at the Rogue Triton. I will be doing a specific video on it shortly. It allows me to discuss both resistive and capacitive loading with phono cartridges. Yes, it is solid state.

it also has the advantage that I can come hear it at the store. Not going anywhere today as we are having "snowmaggedon" here in the Natti. I know since you go to Cleveland often that you laugh at our 4 to 8 inches of snow, but around here, its newsworthy.

@@thomascollins7932 nah, blizzards in Wyoming and Nebraska. Now, that's snow. Whiteouts all the time.

@thomascollins7932 Excellent reply! Thanks!

@@joerosen5464 I was completely unaware that a genre of literature - audioPhiction - existed. Now, that's something new to go with my coffee and far more entertaining than the news. Well, actually this is news! Thanks! Might I get your approval to cut/paste and publish? All credits will be cited. Thanks!

It's not the first company I have seen go down this path and I am sure it is not the last either. In any event, they want a different team selling their products in a different way. That's all that needs to be said.

I am trying the best I can to go into basics in many subjects. There once was a time when there were a lot of brick and mortar stores that could cover many areas personally and during that experience, asks questions. Spontaneity is missing with the web. I try to answer questions as they appear but again in general terms as they are written for a world audience. I have an indepth video coming up on an advanced phono stage that gets into deeper waters.

I don’t even like ‘vinyl’, it’s not floor covering it’s a record or LP. 😂

One must adapt to what is term used by many in the market place. I still have not gone to "spinners" for turntables, mind you. I am trying to reach a very broad worldwide market to help all. If you take exception to a term, well, that's all right. But the term "vinyl" actually started to appear once CD dominated the marketplace so it is not all that new. Unfortunately, no matter what term I use, someone, somewhere in the world has a different interpretation and makes note of it. Some of it is rather interesting, actually.

@@rongreen1538 It is accurate though, and a handy way of distinguishing records on CD from records on vinyl. Maybe we should start referring to CDs as polycarbonates!😃