Really excellent presentation .Gives both sides of the arguments

Basically the Church does NOT like: 1) spirited debate 2) different points of view 3) pragmatism .......and this is EXACTLY what made this country GREAT!!!!

Amazing video, thanks 😊 🙏

St Alexis Toth

Also btw Rudolf Virchow is pronounced “Firsho” Prussian names have a silent W

50:21 Sadly the Ukrainian Catholic liturgy is not always so traditional. There is a "renewal" movement there too. I have see rather hip masses in their churches, especially in Ukraine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIrInZuMmZt0Y5I

I would love to see the revival of the Holy Roman Empire with a Holy Roman Emperor.

You should not assume that people do not know about Una Voce....I have known about them for 40 years. As for Taylor Marshall he might be a good dad and husband, but he is not a RC theologian. He is no more a theologian then you are or I am. He is no dummy, but not a great theologian as he likes to pretend.

8:15 Do you not mean the NO here? I think that you had a slip of the tongue and said old instead of new. Or am I wrong?

I do not want to sound like a smarty pants, but I was able to find out a lot about the Brazilian Personal Apostolic Administration of St. John Vianney by using Google translator. It has improved immensely. I do not understand Portuguese (although my Spanish is not bad). Just type Portuguese to English and you will get the most direct sort of translator. Just paste in a paragraph on the left and the English will appear on the right. Of course, certain ecclesiastical terms might not be in the vocabulary of either language, but it is very good for the free price. There is this bit in English on Wikipedia, but possibly you already saw it. They look like a very sound group to me. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Apostolic_Administration_of_Saint_John_Mary_Vianney

On 30 June 1988, Archbishop Lefebvre, with Bishop Emeritus Antônio de Castro Mayer of Campos, Brazil, as co-consecrator, consecrated four SSPX priests as bishops: Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson, Alfonso de Galarreta and Bernard Fellay.

Pope John Paul II organized the first World Day of Prayer for Peace in Assisi, Italy, on October 27, 1986. In all there were 160 religious leaders who spent the day together with fasting and praying to their God or gods. This is what Wikipedia says, not me - I think it was the work of the devil. I saw a photo where the Buddhists had placed a buddha statue on top of a tabernacle in the chapel assigned to them. I do not think it was photo-shopped.

One thing that traditionalists did not like about JP II is that he changed the mysteries of the Holy Rosary.

Optatum Totius. Second Vatican Council Decree on Priestly Training.

At least Pope Paul VI did not try to change the rosary. That is one good thing about him. It was proposed to him by some libers, but he said it was a crazy idea.

There is no need to repeat yourself here at 1:29:00....You are entitled to your opinion based on your sound analysis.

I wish that you gave a list of the people. For instance, how do you spell de Powell? That is what it sounds like.

What do you mean by saying "he retired with his facilities intake" - He had not gone a bit odd?

6:20 Your comment here made me chuckle. Of course, like dishonest car salesmen and saleswomen.

Walter Matt founded the Remnant. Now his son Michael Matt - I met him on the way to Chartres in France.

I think that there is also a Primitive Benedictine rite, but I have never seen it done.

Is there not an old Cisterian rite? I think that I saw certain left overs of it when I visited Oka in Quebec before the monastery was suppressed. One was no incense before the offertory, another was the chanting of the Salve Regina at every compline service regardless of the time in the church year, bowing instead of genuflecting and possibly some more that I cannot remember at the moment.

You glossed over something at 45:10. Why should I NOT doubt the validity of the NO? You did not offer any evidence thereto. Are you following the lead of the Vatican by not offering any explanation?

The thing is that the Easter catholic churches have been more free of the meddling of Rome since Vat II, but in the mean time they have picked up many of the less desirable trampings associated with Vat II such as go-go girl altar servers, nuns stripping off their habits for mini shirts and head capes, priests trying to be showmen at mass by greeting the congregation and making jokes about this and that, patriarchs (so-called) jetting about like playboys with not much to do, youth conferences that resemble rock concerts with religious info sessions, etc. They seemed to have picked up on all the bad habits of the RC church since Vat II and possibly have missed out on some of the good (if there is any). Has anyone else seen these things? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIrInZuMmZt0Y5I

“Republics” government were thrusted upon us by violent Masonic revolutions. None of them were organic, all planned & executed by the Synagogue of Satan.

27:50 Also sounds like Leo is putting himself in the crib of Christ (appart from the Easterners being the magi).

Would Orientalis Dignatus allow for Eastern Catholics communing in Roman churches and the reverse? I was told that this is not really a licit practice....Also priests "con-celebrating" and people transferring without permission from one parish to another? I think that this is simply a modern innovation that has been tolerated or even encouraged in the modern era, but was not the case in the past. I even saw a letter of transfer of a man who wanted to become Easter Catholic (he had been RC). It had to go all the way to Rome. So I really doubt that people on the local level can just do these things on their own or not according to canon law. Even RC taking communion in the Eastern churches - was it only in case of near death when there is no RC church in the local?

20:33 You are still thinking in a very Roman and secular way. The fact that 4 patriarchs signed something (Russia had not patriarch at the time) is neither here nor there. The question is whether something complies with Orthodox Tradition or not. Obviously, the idea of papal infallibility would not. It does not matter if there were 4 patriarchs against it or none....It is simply contrary to the Gospel and to Christ.

Being sincere as in the case of Pius IX (if that was the case) is not an excuse for being a megalomaniac.

12:00 I do not think that the Turk thought of himself as an emperor....He was called the Sultan. Minor technicality, but emperor was not something we should give to a tyrant.

Almost all of the nobles were Polonized and went RC. Sheptytsky is an example. He went over to the Uniate church from RC church under the request of the authorities. He spoke better Polish than Ukrainian as he spoke Polish at home. He did make an effort to get to know the uniate rites. In fact, he was accused of being a Russophile as he like the way the Russians did things as far as rites. Of course, none would admit that today. Hush hush.

Hey, my mother's mother's family is from Ruthenia and we are not from Ukraine, Russia, Slovakia or Beloruss. We are from Ruthenia. We might not have a political country, but we have a country in the Carpathians. Part of it is occupied by Slovakia, a part in Hungary and a large part occupied by the Ukrainians. We did have a republic for a short time in 1939, but it was crushed by the union of communists and fascists. The devils will unite when it comes to crushing freedom, sort of like the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

51:00 I think that you are jumping the gun a bit here without knowing what is being intended. Possibly the intention is that the St. Thomas Christians with their particular practises are just as much Christians as those in Rome with their particular practices. They are not talking about universalism unless they say so in a more precise manner. You should not make simplistic conclusions here.

There are of course some things in modern post Vat II Catholicism that strike me as odd. Yesterday I was in a church dedicated to St. Theresa of the Little Flower and there was a shrine to her. In the shrine on the ledges were various little trinkets and statues like a baby doll and angel or plastic roses. I suppose that all this junky looking stuff were intended as offerings, but it struck me as a bit odd. It did not go along with the beautiful shrine. Also, it looked all a bit cheap. Most people are not poor here. They should repair the roof and stop buying what looks like something from a sad rummage sale.

How does the Chaldean Catholic church grow or as you say "comes into its own" in the 19th? Did they grow by converting Easterners? Moslems? Latins? Large families?

28:00 I wonder if Rome's support for the Church of the East over the uniate branch at that time might stem from the fact that the former initial had Roman approval and that their consecration was linked to Roman succession.

What in the world were the Dominicans and the Franciscans doing in northern Iraq at that time? If they were trying to convert mohammedeans, that is a fine thing, but if they were trying to romanize Chaldean Christians, this is not so good.

You know, I hope, that the West Syrian rite, only comes to India, much later in the 17th century. I presume that you will explain who this came about. Originally all Christians in India were following the East Syrian or Chaldean rite.

In conclusion: Rome cannot just be in communion with the Eastern Churches....It has to dominate them and force them into submission. The reason why I say this is that you have presented the fact that there were numerous Eastern bishops who wanted to be in communion with Rome and have good relations with the West. Yet Rome did not want that, it wanted them under its feet or not at all. There seemed to be no middle ground and if there was, it was only a Jesuit trick to get to the ultimate goal: Total submission.

43:20 Oh, are these the Lebanese swinger monks?

Why do Jesuits often make a mess of things? They cannot be trusted. They seem to always have an ulterior game. Do not they even lie if the lie furthers their cause? I know that they are not suppose to become bishops. So why did this Mendozes fellow become patriarch? They are certainly not suppose to raise to the papacy.

36:24 What are you saying exactly here? It is not audible: I can hear the part about using only two anaphorae, but what comes after that? Thanks.

Geez - I have heard it pronounced as geez rhyming with sneeze.

When was the Filioque forced on the Ruthenians? I suppose it was a bit later than the actual union. What about the Italo-Byzantines? Did they have to insert the Filioque into the Creed in Greek? Apparently when there is bilingual mass at Rome (Latin-Greek), there is no Filioque or at least that is what a Ukrainian priest who was in Rome told me. I wonder if this is a new thing. He said that it was not. It was the Roman Mass, but the creed was doubled and possibly the Our Father or an Eastern anthem was added at the end.

Derek, your introduction music might be a bit too funky for the content. What about a Byzantine chant which turns into a RC chant or a Novus Ordo mass?

Firstly, there are no Slavic rites. We are using the Byzantine rite which has been translated into various languages. I do not agree with these Latins that try to show how smart they think they are by saying that there are 24 rites. There are not that many. What they do is chop up the Byzantine rite according to linguistic group and come up with 24 or even 32 rites. We know that we are using the Byzantine rite. We know that there is a certain Ruthenian usage, but that does not make for a separate rite. Even among Ruthenians there are slight difference here and there. Otherwise you would have a "rite" for every parish. Therefore to say something to the affect that the "Slavic" rite is not ancient is totally ridiculous and a manifestation of a false Latin rite superiority complex.

The Franciscans are up to their old tricks: Apparently they host jive feasts for young people at the monasteries. After "preaching", they in their habits and some cute boys in tight clothes will start to jive in or in front of the shrine in front of crowds of young girls and boys. Rather disgusting if you ask me. The Franciscan friars (and sometimes nuns) make for some of the worst dancers in all of Ukraine.

Ruthenians are still around....I am one.

Did not one Greek island latinize? I heard something to this effect, but I do not know where or when. Someone mentioned it to me. On this one island everyone is Greek Catholic. Quite an oddity.

In almost every church in Venice you will find something taken from the east. One wonders if the churches were originally bare as so much seems to come from the East. If there are relics, icons or precious stones in a Venetian church, it probably is from the east. Even small churches seem to have relics (actual bodies) of eastern Saints. I have set in many of these churches and after a while I was not surprised, it became almost routine to find out that this or that came from the East. The main altar of St. Mark's is covered in mosaic pieces taken from Constantinople and the main Marian icon to the left of the high altar is also from there to name only a few items.