Your series of four lectures is brilliant. What I do not understand -- and this goes for all science - is how slow some things are to 'get out there'. After ten years there are just 13k views. This is not okay. Best wishes, Robert Morecook PhD Houston
@experiential-psychotherapy6 күн бұрын
Thanks Robert! Glad you found it helpful. I originally created this series with the intention of showing it to 36 participants of a workshop, so the fact that 13k people have watched all four episodes is just fine by me! If you haven't already found experiential-psychotherapies.com, there is more material of mine on the Coherence Therapy page.
@emilycox543914 күн бұрын
Previewing Bonnie's personality, teaching style, I already have her book and the IFS method is congruent with my experiential style. Now I believe I may do the 8 week training she's providing online!
@brynnasibilla1207Ай бұрын
So valuable - thank you.
@buildingemotionalintelligenceАй бұрын
Totally enjoy your recommendations not to get stuck on any one way of approaching this material. It is quite clear that we are all interacting with the very same fundamental brain processes and they are being presented in many different explanatory ways. Getting stuck in any one perspective (even if its very effective) limits the opportunities to learn more as the story emphasizes certain aspects and misses other aspects. Essentially, the particular perspective is not the whole story, there is always more to understand and getting stuck in that perspective limits the ability to see beyond that limited perspective. In all of this MR rocks as a foundational phenomenon.
@kimwindsor2349Ай бұрын
I learned the swallow is a sign of autonomic nervous system relaxation?
@eugeneano285Ай бұрын
Perhaps you talk in another video about situation of past rape and loving partner unable to help. Same with therapeutic relationship. Just because there is one person / situation that juxtaposes, it will not mismatch as likely there is another emotional truth: there still might be another rapist out there, just because my partner is not, it does not change this possibility at all. I don't see beliefs as boolean entities: I am good enough or not good enough at all. In math there are so called fuzzy sets. They describe a spectrum of possible values: I am quite unlovable, I am lovable fifty fifty, etc. Same in life - some of my friends don't like me but many do. How one would find mismatch then? Much appreciated
@TheCrissesАй бұрын
Does this technique work for men?
@faithcurtinkoch8657Ай бұрын
Thank you so much, Niall and Michal! Wonderful information about what is a long-known mode of healing that is newly (re-)emerging in more mainstream circles, bringing such powerful potential for healing and growth!
@dek2000utube2 ай бұрын
So Valuable ... Thank you.
@toriolds58482 ай бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful video, Niall and Michal! What a gift to our community of learners and memory reconsolidation enthusiasts :) I can't wait to see what kind of results are possible with the addition of identifying and integrating schemas ahead of time. Very promising...
@ThorClemensDC2 ай бұрын
This information is incredibly valuable. Wouldn't it be lovely to see this course taught in high school classrooms? People need mental healing majorly in the year. 2024. Thanks so much for putting this together!
@kiva8222 ай бұрын
I love the office...common environment of creative mind :)
@ManiSaint-VictorMD3 ай бұрын
Happened upon this video through KZbin links that I landed on researching coherence therapy after taking the mirroring hands course so this is full circle for me
@Damnchaosemerald_e.e3 ай бұрын
this is youtube
@nyxmorris57264 ай бұрын
After burnout fried my brain, stumbling upon her books felt like Neo finding Morpheus in The Matrix. Suddenly, the world of self-care made sense! Thank you soooo much for sharing your knowledge!!
@jacquelinesmith29944 ай бұрын
This! So good. As a therapist, I too have volunteered with colleagues to further their practice. It takes courage and openness and the therapist here in the video was so welcoming and appreciative of that, it made that inter subjective space come to life in a very safe way.
@letypineda58395 ай бұрын
This woman is amazing! Her sensibility and understanding of the clients and their pain is fantastic. I have read her and her husband´s books and they are so clear.
@juanjoseredondo23146 ай бұрын
I really apreciate Richard Hill. He has the BEST Projective Identification explanation ever on his Channel. ❤
@TomMcKay-k1i6 ай бұрын
YES!. This work, this co-journeying with another human is BEAUTY. Thank you Tori!
@antheakaranasos20476 ай бұрын
Hi there … You might consider that many people … likely most … who come here are not therapists but rather folks like me learning new ways to understand resistance to change after years of work to recover from childhood & ongoing trauma. I stumbled on IFS & parts work through Dr. Jacob Ham on KZbin (amazing!) & Stephanie Woo’s memoir detailing her time as Dr, Ham’s patient. That led me to Richard Schwartz’s teaching to learn the bones of parts work (his book No Bad Parts). The book was ok but a bit abstract imo & kept me too much in my head. So I searched for more on IFS & found Dr. Tori Olds who gives simple, embodied examples I need on her KZbin channel. Tori’s generous video series on IFS led to her other video series on Coherence Therapy which I’m on the front end of exploring. She is brilliant & presents the technique is such a compassionate & easy to understand way. I’m thrilled I found Dr. Olds I suppose the algorithm put your video in my path. Grateful to expand my small group of teachers, I listened to your video then felt very disappointed to discover the bait & switch tactic midway -> first free then pay to listen to the whole video. Therapists listening here who have a career & paying clients can afford to pay, but many of us cannot. And not having insurance to be able to access a qualified trauma informed therapist often moves us to find information & resources online to help ourselves while saving money to afford therapy. This Aetna is so Wright with privilege which is why I appreciate the generosity of Jacob Ham & Tori Olds who offer solid help free of charge through their online teaching videos. I did learn one thing listening to you, which is to eliminate the word *not* when reframing experiences for using self-guided Coherence Therapy & System Deprivation. My desire is to eventually find a therapist or a group that uses both. Until then, as a trauma impacted adult, I’ll be reading & listening to the work of Tori Olds & her mentor Bruce Ecker. All the best to you!
@tinokshenishba6 ай бұрын
Lisa, you look beautiful. So happy to see you.
@capngrace847 ай бұрын
This is great! The positive framing of a new experience is so important to communicate to new folks interested in therapy
@LilaHorton7 ай бұрын
Do you work on emotions too because it is connected to memory!?
@MrJalex10007 ай бұрын
yes, emotions are a major focus of EMDR. Memories are worked with because traumatic ones entail a range of distressed emotions- these accumulate to constitute a person's burden of distress, which tends to drive their 'symptoms' and dominate their emotional life. Emotions need to be reactivated in order for EMDR to be effective, and they are one of the main indicators that the process has been effective or not. EMDR shares this with other approaches that utilise memory reconsolidation (MR- a form of neuroplasticity)- the distress needs to be felt as a necessary precondition for MR to be initiated. People know that the process has been effective (in part) by what their emotions are telling them.
@unlocklimitlessyou7 ай бұрын
Would love to have you both on my podcast How to be happier for entrepreneurs ❤
@unlocklimitlessyou7 ай бұрын
Great stuff!❤❤❤
@RomanBuchok7 ай бұрын
Maybe It isn't the memory of things past that creates intense feelings in the present. Maybe the feeling is created by mistaking memory, or thinking for that matter, with some thing real. The fear response is appropriate when danger is present when the thing is happening. Once the truth is known; that thinking is an internal description of something that happened, it's not the actual thing, the intense feeling doesn't materialize and if it does it's very short lived; it's not real. The only difference between experiencing intense emotion during a movie and experiencing intense emotion from memories and past events, is that in a movie we know we are experiencing something illusory and transitory and it passes shortly after the scene ends. Thinking and memories are no more real than sound & images on a movie screen.
@richardhillcuriosity7 ай бұрын
That is an important aspect of the concept. It is not only the memory of the past, but the associations and connections that are made at the time and then over time when the memory or those things associated with it are recalled. Other dangers, repeated traumas (complex trauma) or other traumas become "consolidated" into the current experience. The juxtaposing truth is exactly as you describe - that the current truth is different from the "associated memory complex". This happens naturally through ongoing experience and through a deliberate therapy process. There are various therapies that can change the connections - time line; EMDR; coherence; several NLP processes; and even CBT in the appropriate circumstances. Mirroring Hands and other implicit processes are also effective in the appropriate circumstances. There are many more actions that can reconsolidate the memory in a way that changes the effect of recall of the past memory, desensitize triggers that associate, and other things that are more than there is space for here. What you have written about above is all spot on. Memory reconsolidation is simply the name given to the neurological process that facilitates the changes of perception and improvement in ongoing experience. As you say, a film is not traumatizing because the person knows it is not true or a current danger. This is a fascinating discussion and there are more interesting things to cover, but that is the gist for now :)
@bennyummer7 ай бұрын
I don't seem to be able to find you on Apple podcast, are you not on there? Is there an easy way to download your podcasts to my phone? I'm kind of a caveman and it would be nice if you were on an easy to use platform, FYI
@experiential-psychotherapy7 ай бұрын
Thanks for asking! The podcast version of this and other interviews is here: podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/experientialpsychotherapy.
@cuttingthrough47187 ай бұрын
Does memory reconsolidation not also require juxtaposition for the memory to become labile, rather than just recall?
@richardhillcuriosity7 ай бұрын
Good question. The synaptic connections for the memory become labile on recall. This allows for the current environment to re-consolidate the connection based on the truth or perceived truth of current environment. So the juxtaposing "truth" is about the current environment, not the lability of the memory. It may be that the current environment confirms the existing memory - or even amplifies it with additional disturbance. So, memory reconsolidation is not about troubling memories getting better. Sometimes re-consolidation makes things worse, especially when there is ongoing trauma (complex trauma) or unresolved situations. Grief is another situation where reconsolidation often confirms the sadness and may even amplify it. A positive juxtaposing truth is added through therapies like coherence therapy, but juxtaposing truths are also just the change in the "environment". This can be natural problem resolution. sometimes, just getting older is enough of a change. If you think in the way of systems you are looking to change the initial conditions, or maybe the attractors or some of the organising principles. Juxtaposing truths can come in many ways :)
@robinticic7 ай бұрын
Yes, many studies have shown that recall (or reactivation) alone does not induce destabilization. Destabilization of the target learning requires a mismatch to what that learning expects, creating a “prediction error” experience. However, different degrees and types of mismatch can do that. What we term a “juxtaposition experience” is a sharp *contradiction* of the target learning’s model of reality, which is a special type of mismatch. Once destabilization occurs, contradiction is then needed for *unlearning* to occur, nullifying the target learning to eliminate its effects entirely (what we term transformational change). The most thorough explanation of all this is in the 2021 article cited below. The 2022 article contains this important clarification: “While destabilized, the target learning may be updated in virtually any way by experiences that deviate from the original learning. The target learning can be strengthened, weakened, or modified in its specific content, or its encoding can be conjoined with the encoding of the memory of a salient new experience…. Thus, by itself the term “memory reconsolidation” denotes not a particular type or degree of change, but rather the fundamental mechanism that destabilizes and then restabilizes (deconsolidates and then reconsolidates) the encoding of a target learning. That deconsolidation/reconsolidation process allows a target learning to be re-encoded and updated but does not in itself cause a target learning to be changed. Change is separately driven by current learning experiences during the reconsolidation window.” Ecker, B. (2021, November 19). Reconsolidation behavioral updating of human emotional memory: A comprehensive review and unified analysis of successes, replication failures, and clinical translation. PsyArXiv. doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/atz3m Ecker, B., & Vaz, A. (2022). Memory reconsolidation and the crisis of mechanism in psychotherapy. New Ideas in Psychology, 66, 100945, 1-11. DOI: 10.1016/j.newideapsych.2022.100945 (download: bit.ly/3luadsb)
@SKR01308 ай бұрын
Awesome podcast episode, Juliane. Wow so fun listening to you and your expertise.
@FlyinDogRecords8 ай бұрын
This was excellent!!! After a while therapies all start looking the same. This really clarified how this one is different. Very clear and great examples. Thank you.
@annaynely8 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYHMhp1ri7Z6ibMsi=EY7L1QPo0POJzUo_ It is marvelous to talk from a privileged stand point! Congrats to you Ma'am!
@ashnishah57038 ай бұрын
This was valuable❤ Thank you so much for this video😊
@ericenvironmentalist94298 ай бұрын
I think it’s also possible that the crying was a defense against deeper more intolerable feelings, like anger.
@wanderingdude.8 ай бұрын
"you can't leave a place till you arrive there" might be a new quote for my door, really simple and helpful :)
@sylviakanel976611 ай бұрын
Excellent, Tori! Thank you!💜🙏💜
@sylviakanel976611 ай бұрын
Wow! This was beautiful. I listened at Tori Old's recommendation from her open chat last Tuesday. I've been studying Gendlin for about three years now and Tori's manner makes me feel witnessed the way videos of Gene do. Now here, too, I felt a deep response to the two of you speaking of how you are present with your clients. There was a great deal of presence in this video and just in listening I felt spaces opening up -- ways I'd like to be with myself that I haven't experienced yet. Tori is teaching memory reconsolidation right now and I've been having trouble making the leap from theory to practice. You touched on how that can happen without forcing issues -- just letting them arise. I'm sure that will give me a better lens through which to view Tori's next session. Thank you!
@mikekoladam5988 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this amazing content!
@LiveIFS Жыл бұрын
Lovely conversation! Thanks for sharing IFS with the world! 🥳
@carolrudd8980 Жыл бұрын
beautiful to see Ann explicate her work with the attentive and receptive Sam. Thank you.
@emmagoldmansherman Жыл бұрын
So much to learn here, thank you! Such great information! With so much heart and compassion. "To hold it lightly like a feather" I love this!
@claudiad.4954 Жыл бұрын
I have only just started to practise brainspotting. So amazing. It's like an adventurous journey. I love it being so open, the interaction between equal partners, the field that is created. To me it's one of THE tools for this time on earth. Thank you!
@kdento2 Жыл бұрын
Who was your trainer?
@iananono9083 Жыл бұрын
I came to the same conclusion as you did about many disorders being natural/survival reactions to “disorderly” conduct of the trauma giver. I don’t know if I’ve heard this perspective from another therapist before, so thank you!! I tried BSp on myself (I have a masters in it and a couple years experience giving it). I am amazed at the response I had. Is it ok to do it on/with oneself more extensively? I will find a BSp therapist soon, but also like doing self-therapy. Have done it for over 50 years. THANKS again! ❤
@gfitz91 Жыл бұрын
Does this therapy approach work better for behavioural symptoms? In social anxiety for eg, would the target symptom be avoidance, or would it be the specific feeling, eg feeling worried about judgment of others?
@experiential-psychotherapy Жыл бұрын
Coherence Therapy could equally be applied to either the behavioral symptom or the experience. The most important first step is "symptom definition" -- getting crystal clear with the client about what the target of change is for this session, whether that be a change in their behavior or a change in how they experience the circumstances of their life. Which of these it needs to be will be different depending on the situation and the person, and this must be co-determined by both the client and therapist. Then we start discovery work (seeking the unconscious compelling reason for maintaining the symptom) from there.
@MauiViolinist Жыл бұрын
Mahalo from Maui, where I am a trauma counselor. This was very informative and reassuring as I go into service for wildfire survivors.
@experiential-psychotherapy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing such powerful work and such an important time. Brainspotting is a wonderful resource for trauma work.
@kaziopu1 Жыл бұрын
Very nice experiential therapy interview
@shanefox5458 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, thankyou so much for sharing!
@paulista1986 Жыл бұрын
Hearing the story of this patient, I got chills, too :) It would be interesting to have a talk about what chills mean :)
@Ciskuss Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! We need a summary of the main points
@HenockTesfaye Жыл бұрын
Okay, this is dope! I admire your lack of loyalty to any method, which lets you see past the techniques and models. Thank you for sharing your insight.