Exactly! I’ve had them on mine before. They’re not so bad, it’s what they leave behind. Good luck with your project!/

@@Eaglewatch333 We love the chickens but they take over everything when they free range! We have to take back our front yard, stairs and deck at least, lol.

Glad you enjoyed it! I hope your project turns out well 👍

I’ve only used up to the 8’ panel without any center support. I have several 8’ sections on my deck that have never sagged. I do fasten my 6x6 post to my joist and outer band, with bolts and screws using the blocking method. I don’t know code on the length of panels but they can’t have over a 4” gap in the squares. Don’t know if this is any help… but good luck on your project.

@@Eaglewatch333 this is very helpful, thank you! I'm assuming I'd need a certain thickness or gauge of the wireframe in order to not bend in the middle if the length of the rails was long enough to have sag. I have a 40' wide deck and I wouldn't mind 5 sections of 8' but I'm trying to minimize the number of posts while remaining safe and not sagging.

@@maryreblin4983 By far he’s done most of it himself but I do help a little here and there.

He’ll show you pictures of his great grandkids for an ID. I’ll let him know you said that, he’ll like it! Thanks 👍

Awesome. I’m 66 and clearing a spot to build a small place too. Good luck 👍

@@Eaglewatch333 very cool, good wishes to you too...enjoy, I plan to

@@phuongvo3051 Thank you! He’s out there working everyday. The view only gets better in the winter. 👍

I wasn’t sure, but because you asked, I talked with him this morning and he’s all in. It won’t be a fast process but I’ll do updates. Thanks Mark

@@Eaglewatch333 If you just do an update once in a while, I'll donate to the cause. I don't really expect you to video the entire build. Eaglewatch, hmmmm. A message believer by chance?

@@Mark-in-California Updates for sure. On your comment…just a believer. Have a good one ☝️

There was an Evangelist back in the 50's and 60's that brought out great Christian truths. Those that are still following those truths, collectively, are referred to as, "In the Message". Basically the message of Jesus Christ. I asked just to see what common ground we may share. Mark

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@@Eaglewatch333 Steve? Lol

I’ve never dealt with thermafoil on the inside of cabinets, I’ve only redone doors. I have re-glued laminate back that is coming up, (it’s a little messy but works) Sorry I’m not much help on this one.

@Eaglewatch333 yes your right it's laminate on the inside. Its all peeled up so it looks like a mess

@@scottieeickhoff4210 I used 2x2’s in the video but I do sometimes rip 2x4’s to save a little money.

Home Depot- They sell 6’ and 8’ panels

👍 Best to you on your project

Primer - PPG Seal Grip Paint- Behr Cabinet door and Trim Paint (semi-gloss)

@@Eaglewatch333thank you!😊

@@einy2crikey 👍 Last summer a guy put a shelving unit by the road made from (3) 1x12x8’s, (6) 1x12x6’s, and (4) 1x12x4’s. His shelf is now an awesome kitchen wall.

@@Eaglewatch333 You should've made a video. 🙂 Happy 4th!

Awesome! I hope you have a great view to enjoy. 👍

I hope you’re as happy as I am with mine!

Cabling is nice too, but you won’t regret the hog panels 👍

👍 Worth the effort. One of my favorite upgrades.

Home Depot sells them and I use a local building supply that sells them for a few dollars cheaper

@@Eaglewatch333 What gauge it’s ?

What’s the size of the squares?

6 gauge- 4” x 4” squares

@@Eaglewatch333 Thanks a lot for the info

Yes, all regular pressure treated. I do spend more for premium pt 5/4” boards for the top handrail when available. Give the new wood a month or so to dry out and definitely waterproof it with a good quality sealer. I usually use a Behr stain/sealer from the local Home Depot but there’s a lot of good products out there. Good luck 👍

@@Eaglewatch333 Thanks for the detailed reply, for which you will be punished with one more set of questions 🙂. Do you get the PT boards at a local lumber yard, or at one of the big box DIY stores? I find that the finish quality of PT lumber is very rough, and doesn't do as well with treatment as does green or finish DF, for example. Plus, when you cut into the PT lumber, you're dealing with the dust, as well as exposing interior wood to the elements (yes, which I know you later treat also). I'm leaning towards cedar or prime grade KD DF; wood types or wood grades are rarely discussed in videos, it seems to me (and that might only be my missing the info...). Thanks, again!

I do get most of my wood (and other materials) from the big box stores. I do use a local supplier but often they don’t carry the selection I need. You’re right, good wood is getting harder to come by so I’m selective where it matters. After the wood on a project is dry enough to stain, I go over it with a sander before sealing. As far as using different types of wood- that’s totally an individual choice and what you’re willing to spend. I do know the pt pine decks I build, if taken care of, will outlast me. Hope your project turns out great!

@@Eaglewatch333 Great detail in that reply, and many thanks for it. The deckboards are 2" cedar, so I certainly do the 4x4" posts with cedar, and figure out the rest after inspecting what the local lumberyard has. The big box stores, given that I live in the boonies, are a distance away, and one needs to do a very close measurement of all that is needed, with the usual % over. Take care!

Those were pressure treated 2”x2”x8’s. (I don’t know why but a 2x2x8 and a 2x4x8 cost the same. I did rip down 2”x4”x 8’s on my most recent deck project. 20 minutes on the table saw saved over $80. on my 5 hog panel rails.

The panels I used are powder coated - a heat treatment process and very rust resistant. The galvanized panels are available but I prefer the look of the black colored wire.

@@Eaglewatch333Where did you get the wire panels?

Home Depot

You got it. Hope your project turns out well!

Thanks, I’ll do that 👍

Home Depot- $65. for a 3’x6’ panel $90. for 3’x8’ panel- I recently purchased the same brand at a local building supply store for about $5 a panel cheaper

Thanks for the information!

👍 Good luck with your project!

I use the Deckmate star bit (torx) screw. The dryer the wood the easier it will spit, especially close to the ends of a board. Many times I keep a drill handy to pre-drill screw holes if it’s splitting or close to the end of a flooring deck board.

It’s closer to $100. total for a 6 ft. panel plus wood. The 6’ hog panel at Home Depot is $65. and add another $35. for wood. 8 ft. panels are $90. so about $125. total for an 8 ft. section. Good luck and enjoy

Excellent! Exact same principle with 4” x 4” post. Hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

Happy Wife, Happy Life 👍

Excellent! 👍

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Excellent! Thank you and enjoy your new railings.