You know with the right wetsuit/dry suit efoiling a year round activity. In summer i ride flat water and in winter I surf. In general winter spring is the best time to buy as its not the peak summer season.

@BayFoils I live in Canada, so I only expect to do this a couple months of the year. Is there a time when they launch their new products and are there ever end of season sales?

@@SulibanX Not really if you're looking for a deal you should contact your local partner and ask them about any discounts on a used setup the guys at efoil muskoka are experienced and good friends of ours, they can get you taken care of!

@@BayFoils thank you. I'll do that!

@@BayFoils it looks like they only carry lift products. I'm more interested in a fliteboard. I'm guessing you'd agree with getting a fliteboard pro over the lift 3?

There are always consequences with going with a cheaper alternative compared to a trusted brand. A flite air is only 7k which is really the best value on the market for performance and reliability. Unfortunately efoil are still a pay to play hobby (just like motorcycles or offroading) trying to pinch pennies will only cause problems in the long run when you have an issue. We've been working with flite for almost 4 years now and have always had the best experiences and easy problem solving.

@@BayFoils Hi but what are your thoughts on the Xfoil? It is developed by a company in Silicon Valley California PLX Devices inc. and the developer Paul Lowchareonkul an avid water person. In what I was watching the Xfoil videos they don’t look like a Penny Pinching Company. Lmk your input on the Xfoil.

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1500 cruiser jet plus 300 stab and a 3 shim. It's super easy to ride great pitch control for beginners and really efficient on power

I am 5'10" 185lbs

I would say a flow 1100 and 900 with the 245 stabilizer if you are just looking for fast and loose. That being said both of those wings feel way better using a nano or sport battery compared to an explorer. If you really want to ride faster and carve harder consider a lighter battery.

​@@BayFoilswhat about one flow and one flow S to have both options? If I did that would it make sense to go flow 900 and flow S 1100 or even S 1300?

Actually the USCG did come out with requirements in August 2022 that basically says comply with state level Numbering systems, Wear a PFD, Comply with 33 CFR 83 Inland Navigation Rules, and comply with ECOS (a non-issue for fliteboard owners). The link to the info is the Video description.

@@BayFoils yes read the statement. Line 5. Disclaimer. The guidance in this policy letter is not a substitute for applicable federal or state legal requirements and is not a rule. The guidance in this policy letter is not intended to impose legally-binding requirements on any party. This guidance represents the Coast Guard’s current thinking on this topic and may assist States, the general public and the Coast Guard, in applying statutory and regulatory requirements. This letter is only the CG thinking. It is not legally binding on ANY Party. If the state has a it’s own regulation then you must follow. If not you’re free to shred. Take the ticket win in court every time. The Coast Guard does not have any regulation on eFoils

Many state run lakes and reservoirs require registration and mussel tags. It doesn't hurt to register your board as it opens up more places for your to ride and it's super easy.

Ah yes putting tape on your $16000 efoil to make it perform like a $12000 flitescooter. Anything that takes control away from the rider isn't really good. Riders that learn how to properly shift their weight with out any stabilization devices are better equipped to ride and reduce the risk of dangerous falls. And the great thing about having a youtube channel is we can offer our opinion (as experienced riders) and let our audience decide who to trust.

@@petrsson it's on the pretty tight you just have to force it. Wear some gloves for extra grip

@@BayFoils Do you mean pop it off or unscrew that somehow???🤔

@@petrsson it's not threaded on there it just pops off but it takes a bit of force to get it off the first time when it is brand new

@@BayFoils Ok...ThanX a lot

Yes lighter is always better for any kind of uncovered riding. Especially wake surf as a boat wake is typically slower and less powerful compared to ocean waves.

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@@2179Louis If you are looking at the Marc newson model you are looking at the very top of the performance spectrum and lowest weight efoil on the Market. Flite is the only brand that offers a one piece monobloc carbon efoil with an inline motor fuselage design. Which are both huge design choices to make the ride experience the best out there. The etron mast and fuselage are aluminum like flite standard efoil (which is much heavier and has more drag) comparing the two is like comparing a camry to a supra. You should really find somewhere to try even a standard fliteboard before your purchase. I'm assuming you are in Europe as the Etron efoil not able to be purchased legally in the USA as they were given a cease and desist order from Flite for copyright infringement. I can't speak personally to the quality of the aerofoil's e-tron as I never tried one (again not available in the US) but audi has a track record of copying flite's designs after they are released (hyperfly and airfly are copys of the flite scooter and new flite AIR). There's a big reason many people on the internet say flite is the best, they are the only brand that constantly puts safety and performance ahead of everything else while also crushing sales.

There are no plugs for a handle but you could use a stick on handle.

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A heat gun an acetone would get it off real easy but I wouldn't worry about replacing it that defeats the point of put it on

They look great, nice big bright screen. But it’s not as structurally rigid as the standard controller.

So much better it's not even in the same world. With a nano, and standard 75cm mast, the Ultra L2 only weighs 46lbs it's going to be under 40 with the new carbon efoil. I was foiling on power 1 with a flow S 1300.

I ride on gear 1 with the nano, ultra and 1500 jet and get 45min. How does the board compare? You like the narrowness and extra length?

It's lighter it planes better and turns better. It's is better in every measurable way.

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Haven't had the opportunity to test them yet still waiting for my wave edition efoil.

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It is totally possible to catch waves with the air eventhough they are the heaviest board option, just keep in mind it really depends on the power/speed of the wave you're trying to ride and your skill/weight. A skilled rider can surf 4-6 ocean waves on any set up as those waves have alot of speed and energy, but 2-3 footers rollers or boat wake maybe challenging for a beginner or when you're using a heavier set up (air board sport battery). That being said you'll never know until you try as it is all really personal and takes alot of trial and error to figure the customization out.

The Air board is great can't be beat for the price. I wouldn't recommend the jet as it goes through battery much quicker. If you did want a jet I would say get two Nano flitecells and one fast charger then you'll be set

@@michaelvadney5803 They were served a cease and desist letter from flite at the FLIBS 2 years ago and are not allowed to sell in the USA. I'm not sure of the exactly what the details of the patent infringement but either way they're not allowed to sell in the USA.

Thanks for sharing Sifly's look really good but they are not available in USA so I haven't tried one yet.

In my experience the jet is actually much easier to recover a breach than the standard prop and guard, as it's spinning about 4x faster, but recovering from breaching is really about proper throttle management and weight shifting.

Very nice, thanks. Having a soft but rigid board is tempting. I currently have a GetFoil and as you know, they closed their doors. That will be a problem if and when it breaks. The carbon is great, but learning on a CF board beat me up pretty good. I'm glad that I'm finally over that hump last year.

I mean the air is softer but you should be kicking the board far away from you when you fall regardless of the material. Trying to avoid the water and land on your board is not really safe as it puts you close to the wings and stuff. If you have the chance you should really try a fliteboard, you'll be very surprised how much easier and relaxing a fliteboard is compared to a Getfoil!

Thanks. I do know that if you are way off balance that it is difficult to actually kick away.

You'll be surprised how much easier a fliteboard is to control (especially during a touch down). If you're ever in SF look us up!

You can take a qtip and clean them when you take it apart to grease up but it's not something that's required in saltwater use

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You know I've used a billed helmet or a hat under the helmet for over 3 year and I've never jacked up my neck. But I also don't fall head first into the water so maybe idk? (really shouldn't be swan diving off an efoil headfirst to the foil).

Im happy with my ensis balz pro helmet. Fits like a second skin, perfect to adjust and have little visor for sun protection. Greetings from Germany, i like your vids!

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Series 1 Fliteboard's in 2020 were pretty lound as they didnt have the extra damping seals that the new 2024 efoils have. Wavestorm style foam boards absolutely will get scratched/torn up or just legit broken in half plenty of images on line showing this. Plus if you are concerned with scratches and dings and keeping your board visually perfect, Fiberglass/carbon can be sanded and re-glassed super easily, Foam boards are not repairable using PU or Epoxy.

FYI efoil Solution's shop is located Hawai'i. Shipping from Oahu it the mainland is not cheap. If you have access to a 3d printer you can get the .stl files and DIY it for only $10.

That's a bummer about not being able to ride your Flite, but it is a private lake so you have to follow their rules. It's hard to say what ride time you'll get as there are lot's of factors other than your weight that dictate your ride time (speed, water conditions, wing selection, # of falls in your session ect). As far as noticable differences between brands for a beginner it's hard to tell as it all a new sensation, but when you have 100's hours logged things like weight difference, mast height, and motor placement are VERY noticeable. Especially if you are seeking the highest performance elite experience, Flite is the way to go. Feel free if you have more questions call or text us 415-295-2925 or email [email protected].

Their 7k plus a flite board has an aircraft grade aluminum mast, a huge lithium ion battery with titanium housing and BMS and there is GPS with a interconnected app to track your speed, distance, location, and wave count.

The folder prop is nice for wave riding but ultimately doesn't feel great for regular flat water riding. Luckily it's super easy to change the prop on a fliteboard for the conditions you're riding in

@@BayFoils I see. Thanks! Just about to order one. Was thinking the Air with 1500 cruiser and folding prop. Will get the guard prop too of course.

@@noobsaibot5285 🤙 you can head to www.bayfoils.com/flite-air to order, crusier jet 1500 wings are back ordered so if you want to start riding right away I would reccommend getting a crusier jet 1800 it's also easier for heavier riders to practice un powered riding and you'll get more ride time.

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Never heard of them, looks cool german engineering. There are alot of brands in the efoil game now. I'll have to make another video at the end of the year.

The prices have come down alot in the past 2 years. You can get a full set up for 7k and it's a different kind of rush compared to a boat. Sure for that price you can get a boat but Efoils are not boat replacements they offer a different sensation. Plus boats are holes on the water you throw money into. A 10k boat will cost another 10k in 5 years of ownership factoring maintenance gas registration and slip fees easily

Dang that is a bummer, it sounds like that person has some other issues going on to not hook up a fellow efoiler. I don't know the Lift scene in Florida but I know multiple Flite partners out there that would hook you up. It's always a pleasure to take out experienced riders, its a nice break from beginner lessons. If you're ever out in SF hit us up.

Learning to safely ride and efoil and manuver it properly takes a few hours. Learning to operate a jetski takes a few minutes. Also normal part of learning to efoil involves falling in the water that is not the case with learning to ride a jetski. They have different learning curves and expectations of how the operator can get injured. Like skateboard crashes vs car crashes. You can die doing either thing but in general part of skating means you'll fall. Some drivers never get in a car crash in their entire driving history.

Nope mike from @mikespaddle was on the water. I was flying the drone and also I never wipeout 😆

@@levithewizard you just jinxed yourself. Make sure you have someone filming you next time you go out… you’ve got a big wipeout coming 😂