BY DEFINITION: Common-Mode Current is current moving in the SAME DIRECTION down BOTH SIDES of the wire (or choke). To test for Common-Mode Suppression of a Common-Mode Choke (CMC) you must connect BOTH CMC inputs to the center pin of the NanoVNA Port 1, BOTH CMC outputs to the center pin of Port 2, tie the grounds of both Ports together and set the NanoVNA to “thru” or S21 mode with the display set to LogMag. You will see the curve dropping down to show suppression in dB across the frequency spectrum. For a good CMC it should be at least -25dB. Coax or wires wound on an FT-240-31 ferrite core will give about -43dB which is excellent. DO NOT use magnet wire as a nick can lead to an RF arcing and really mess with your system. Hope this helps-K7RAW The Antenna Whisperer.
@py2rpjrubens4508 күн бұрын
And thank's for the links! 73
@py2rpjrubens4508 күн бұрын
I have one these, gift from a big "Bud" Work fine!! 73 from BRASIL!
@KjartanAndersen22 күн бұрын
Well, RED will never be dead unless you unplug the antenna from the radio. In which case we don't care about Common Mode Currents. We will have no CMC if RED and GREEN are equal in size, but opposite direction. CMC comes when this is not the case. RED and GREEN are opposite, but no longer equal. Which means we have a noise component on the transmission line. This will be cancelled by the choke until RED and GREEN again are equal in size and noise is thus greatly reduced.
@adventurelaus21 күн бұрын
@KjartanAndersen common mode will only travel on one of the wires, otherwise it wouldn't be common mode. Usually that's the shield, green wire in this example. So if you only look at the common mode current then the other wire, the red one in this example, will be "dead", as in not having any current running through it.
@IK8XOO--Paolo26 күн бұрын
Why you simply don't measure the insertion loss?
@adventurelaus21 күн бұрын
@IK8XOO--Paolo We tested the insertion loss already in this kzbin.info/www/bejne/fl6aeYOfaa2GoKM and this kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIKslpuhdrKnjJY video. Please check them out as well. Thanks for watching.
@applepine1048Ай бұрын
isn't a raid 1 a mirror?
@adventurelausАй бұрын
@@applepine1048 yes, that's correct.
@applepine1048Ай бұрын
@@adventurelaus i think you changed the video title didn't you?😃
@adventurelausАй бұрын
@applepine1048 of course. Trying to provide A1 quality videos to my loyal subscribers. :) It only took me a week to update the title image, too. Thanks for your comment pointing that out and encouraging me to change it.
@YTANDY1003 ай бұрын
nice enough video but when you connected two ends of each pair it wasnt as a transformer , it was as more of a capacitor or two separate antennas and at 8:00 ish the resistance was 25 ohm :-)
@adventurelaus3 ай бұрын
I agree that's this is a capacitor. Thanks for pointing it out.
@YTANDY1003 ай бұрын
@@adventurelaus your welcome :-)
@ugsisr3 ай бұрын
Where did you order the Toroids from ?
@mel73723 ай бұрын
40:22 first echo we've heard 😆
@nildomedeiros.84434 ай бұрын
Novo inscrito no canal, parabéns guerreiro, abraço do Brasil.
@jomckarth48364 ай бұрын
wis ... wis ... du vollpfosten!
@EmmasNatureEscapes4 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed your video. It has such a peaceful and relaxing vibe, beautifully connected to nature. You got my subscription!
@ervinslens4 ай бұрын
Lovely episode man, place looks really interesting and enjoyable! Happy trails 🥾
@adventurelaus4 ай бұрын
@@ervinslens Thanks
@gordslater4 ай бұрын
(I realise this is along time ago now) It's possible you had the same problem I once did about 30 years ago. There are 75 ohm and there are 50 ohm BNC connectors. Though the centre pin diameters are about the same on the main shank , they look a little different - IIRC the 75 connectors have a "sharper" pin at the tip, though the nominal diameter is the same after the tapered tip. (people _think_ they are different but I have a feeling the main shaft diameter is the same - I think, anwways) Anyways, what can happen is that if you use 75 Ohm BNC males in 50 ohm BMC females, the narrower end of the tip sometimes doesn't make perfect contact especially if the female is old and the centre receptacle has been flared out through longterm usage. Many terminators from the days of late 1970s and 1980s coax ethernet used cheaper (in those days) 75 ohm plugs even if they used a 50 ohm resistor. So this problem occured more in the 80s and 90s. Now, when you test it with a ohmeter, it reads fine probing the BNC male to male directly. It ALSO tends to read fine if you fit a BNC to N or BNC to PL259 or SO239 adapter too. Why? Because when we probe the adaptor's pin, we tend to push it slightly sideways and the very slight movement transfers through to the problem BNC plug in a seesaw motion, unless the adaptor is extremely high quality. This means it reads OK at DC, because the slight sideways movement makes the circuit. However, at VLF-HF and into low VHF, there's an open circuit (in fact it's a tiny capacitance so will read high SWR at lower frequencies) . At UHF, there will be enough pF there to have relatively low reactance. So you may not notice much loss or high VSWR at 400 to 2GHz, but at HF or MF it's pretty bad. Even if all connectors are 50 ohm, you could still have an old or widened female centre receptacle. To see if that's the problem - using a good eye magnifier use a sewing needle to bend one of the leaves of the female centre receptacle in towards the centre to tighten it up - if that solves the problem you either have poor new connectors or old worn ones. They don't last forever in the lab especially if you homebrew a lot and these days everyone uses 50 ohm modules much more than they used to 30 years ago so coax connectors get a lot of wear. This can cause arcing and RF plasma in the connector with high enough power. My first clue was mysterious ozone smell coming from the BNC connector when I was doing a high power PA test into a dummy load on HF. The same cable was fine into the same load even running 1KW pulsed at 1or 2 GHz (radar testing)
@dennis80194 ай бұрын
where is gps?
@adventurelaus4 ай бұрын
Still in progress. Ran into some issues, fried a GPS module, and all that fun. Have some patience, subscribe and either watch or ignore the hiking videos in the meanwhile. The video will come eventually.
@Sebestyen854 ай бұрын
Hi! Thanks for the video! I want to calibrate a radio S meter. Where can I set the 50uV or -73dBm attenuation?
@ervinslens5 ай бұрын
Lovely hike man, this looks and feels absolutely gorgeous! Fantastic scenery!
@adventurelaus5 ай бұрын
@@ervinslens Thanks.
@jenmholm5 ай бұрын
I love your positive attitude hoping you're able to continue on take care of those feet! What solar charger are you using and what was your results of it
@adventurelaus5 ай бұрын
@@jenmholm I don't have it with me this time. If you keep it in the sun for a significant time it can charge your phone. With the trees and me moving most of the day I took two 20000mA power banks instead.
@andilowe95266 ай бұрын
What is the maximum RF Frequency of the FY6800?
@larrygenedavis5 ай бұрын
60 Mhz
@y_x26 ай бұрын
Filters of this kind should use iron powder core!
@adventurelaus6 ай бұрын
Déjà vu 🙂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fl6aeYOfaa2GoKM&lc=UgzRYu4h7xihMSSu3ap4AaABAg
@sq7dqx6 ай бұрын
Sorry but your presentation did not show how exacly looks frequency response of that filter. What is attenuation at 3,7MHz and 14,2MHz (f/2 and f x 2). I see that SA you using has very small dynamic response as scalar network analyzer. Maybe it is due to wide RBW. OK it looks that filter has more than -45dB at 3,7MHz and close to -50dB on 14,2MHz but there are a lot of noise, not a trace. Price depends on the seller but anyway filters are quite cheap. Question is how good capacitors are used - 1000V or more, we do not know. I would be very carefuly to use that filter at higher power - let say 100-200W. Reactive power that capacitors handle is far over 1kW (check 5B4AGN filters manual) so voltage and dissipated power raitings are important. There is no information from sellers about capacitors used, just how heavy filter is. Some of them publicate screens from vna that looks interesting. Anyway - thanks for video.
@adventurelaus6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I posted a few screenshots on my website. Maybe they povide the details you're looking for. cqqrz.github.io/projects/chinese-200w-band-pass-filters/
@darylcheshire16186 ай бұрын
so you don’t have to wrap the toroid with coax wire? Can I use 16 gauge speaker wire?
@adventurelaus6 ай бұрын
You could but it might behave differently than the higher quality 18 gauge silver plated PTFE wire I used. The speaker wire insulation isn't as heat resistant so if the wire gets warm that can cause issues. Otherwise I'm not sure what else might change. I haven't tried other wires.
@WECB6406 ай бұрын
The bandpass looks good on the SA. I would like to see the maximum RF that this device is rated for pass through it and into a dummy load while observing the ferrites with an IR camera for heating. Thank you. 73
@adventurelaus6 ай бұрын
Great suggestion. I'll get the video done as soon as I have time after field day. Thanks!
@javisan60017 ай бұрын
does not work anymore K3ng keyer for the arduino plus the add of #define HARDWARE_NANOKEYER_REV_D and #define FEATURE_COMMAND_LINE_INTERFACE #define FEATURE_SERIAL_HELP. makes it big to the memory
@PhilemonRobillard7 ай бұрын
Love it. Really work Bruh!
@lostcaused7 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about signal generators, so can you tell me if I want to generate a Wifi or GPS signal using a vector signal generator, will the generator put out or broadcast the signal internally or would I need an antenna?
@adventurelaus7 ай бұрын
It will transmit the signal, just extremely weak. Probably so weak you won't notice because of all the other electrical noise that's being transmitted from various devices. An antenna will definitely make the transmitted signal stronger as seen in this video.
@AlexandreAlvesPY4HZ7 ай бұрын
So to measure the power, the two buttons must be open, and put on the scale 30w or 300w, is that it? thanks.
@adventurelaus7 ай бұрын
Yes, open as in out, i.e. not pushed in.
@AlexandreAlvesPY4HZ7 ай бұрын
@@adventurelaus thanks PY4HZ
@DominicUliano9 ай бұрын
this is very cool! thanks for doing this demonstration.
@adventurelaus9 ай бұрын
Thanks. I had a lot of fun with it as well.
@obnoxy9 ай бұрын
Just curious. At 6:55. I did that too! I removed the plastic rails from an old Aprilaire 413. It WAS a giant pain. Why didn't you try that, stapling them on and a few dabs of hot glue? I bet that would work. Let me know if you did try and what you ran into. Thanks for your video.
@adventurelaus9 ай бұрын
Because I'd have to do that with every filter change. If you went through that process you know what that means. It's just not worth it for me.
@obnoxy9 ай бұрын
@@adventurelausThanks for replying. All you'd have to do is keep using the same black plastic rails. My thought is to put a couple of dabs of hot glue under each side and like two staples. That should be plenty to hold them in place. Heck, you might even be able to use a little duck tape, easier! Since the top and bottom of the knockoff filter is cardboard, pulling off the reusable rails would be super easy NOT like from the Aprilaire. Pulling from the Aprilaire is insane because of the amount of glue they used and it was attached to the filter media. (By the way, so glad there is another person out there that thinks like me!)
@Mike-242210 ай бұрын
What is the swr and loss at hf? On vhf using repeaters it is not a big deal! I am building a hf/6m go box and I was going to use one in it.
@Brocks-Travels10 ай бұрын
It would have been better to use flexible insulated wire, than the solid wire. Much easier to work with and crimps better
@mel737210 ай бұрын
Puts fingers in peril multiple times ... films safety gloves on the ground in the background 😂
@ChrisRobinsonKF6NFW10 ай бұрын
what GPS unit are you going to use? I too am just starting to build the GPS unit for my D700A as well. Waiting on Amazon to deliver my parts now so I can finish this up. I went with the neo-6m. and an even much smaller in size buck converter, it measures only 20mm x 11mm x5mm , but allows to be shoved into a small case and tucked away in my work truck.
@adventurelaus10 ай бұрын
It's a GT-U7 which apparently is a Neo-6m as well.
@Electronzap10 ай бұрын
Fun component :)
@y_x210 ай бұрын
Using ferrite core instead of power core for filter is absolutely ridiculous!
@adventurelaus10 ай бұрын
I'd be interested to know how you can tell what toroid material / mix is used by looking at it, especially with unmarked ones like these.
@y_x210 ай бұрын
@@adventurelaus The color of the ferrite is black and will saturate easily with power that why they use very big ferrite.
@adventurelaus10 ай бұрын
@@y_x2Thanks for your reply. Being ignorant, I'd still say it's inconclusive. Coming from a low cost manufacturer, the cores might never have been painted. Or the larger size makes it work just fine. We probably can agree that at very low receive power, in the micro watts range, the filter works as tested. The question is what will happen when some significant power is applied. I think I might have some ideas on how to test that. I'll try to make a follow up with that and would love to get our feedback on it.
@HGSolberg10 ай бұрын
Remember that when your car's generator is charging, the voltage can easily be 14 volts, and even a bit more. But I'm sure the step down converter can handle that just fine.
@adventurelaus10 ай бұрын
Good point. That a nice benefit for using the step down converter that I don't have to worry about that. Thanks for watching.
@ChrisRobinsonKF6NFW10 ай бұрын
These buck converters are pretty stable on the output, provided you give enough headroom for them to do their job properly. On the adjustable converters, I have found that they can be a little questionable by some manufacturers, but overall are all within a pretty tight tolerance. I typically see less then 1% deviation. However, I still do not trust a variable regulator in the place of a fixed. Especially on something that is of importance.
@HGSolberg10 ай бұрын
@@ChrisRobinsonKF6NFW Yes. I only commented because he tested it to 13 volts, and stopped there. I just wanted to point out that the voltage in a car can be more than that when the generator is charging. So if he really wanted to be sure, he should have tested it to 14 or maybe even 14.2 volts. (I mean, what's the point of testing it if you're not testing it for at least the range it will experience when in service?) But I'm sure the buck converter will handle it well, so it's not really an issue.
@jwchancey10 ай бұрын
so.. how well did it work?
@adventurelaus10 ай бұрын
Ok, I think. I did have it out on a pota event where we tested the filter with an Icom IC-7300 while another station next to it transmitted on 40m. Without the filter the OVF indicator lit up. With the filter it didn't.
@fastradioburst25310 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this. Was great to get a look inside.
@adventurelaus10 ай бұрын
Your welcome. I was curious about how it looks inside and how it performs as well.
@dean526311 ай бұрын
Nice demonstration, it gives me the knowledge and confidence to construct one myself.
@adventurelaus11 ай бұрын
Thanks. Definitely go for it.
@sivoltage11 ай бұрын
Very cool.
@adventurelaus11 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this series of videos, it's helped me understand how chokes work and I will be making some for my shack soon. 👍
@adventurelaus11 ай бұрын
Great to hear. You're welcome! 🙂
@acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this series of videos, it's helped me understand how chokes work and I will be making some for my shack soon. 👍
@adventurelaus11 ай бұрын
Great to hear that the videos were interesting. Thanks for watching.
@Flamenawer11 ай бұрын
Every time you change the span you need make a zero again
@jax867311 ай бұрын
Promo-SM
@AlexejSvirid11 ай бұрын
Sounds like SSTV.
@wkaibigan11 ай бұрын
The title of the video says Low Pass Filter but in the video you are talking about Band Pass. Which one were you actually aiming for?
@adventurelaus11 ай бұрын
I am aiming for a low pass filter in order to filter out spurious emissions of my 2m transceivers. But a band pass filter would work as well. During the measurement I saw that the "filter" suppresses some lower frequencies as well. That's where my choice of words came from. Thanks for watching.
@ijontichy6070 Жыл бұрын
Well I once bought some no name elbow adapters. Today I came across your videos and with some trepidation I watched them with my Nano VNA ! phew! At 500 MHz they have about -0,5 dB ! Lucky me !
@adventurelaus Жыл бұрын
Great to hear there are other good elbow connectors.
@patrickdemeyer2210 Жыл бұрын
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@MMOchAForPrez Жыл бұрын
In English, I believe we would call the company am-fen-ol. British and American accents would make then sound slightly different.
@MMOchAForPrez Жыл бұрын
"ph" makes an "f" sound in English for the most part. It's not all that common in English for some reason
@ke8wlw Жыл бұрын
Ever take one apart? Most are compressed fittings. No real electrical connection. Had lots of them fall apart and cause problems
@adventurelaus Жыл бұрын
No, I haven't taken one apart. I wouldn't know how to do that well without destroying it to an extend that wouldn't allow any useful investigation. Angle grinder, hack saw,...?
@ke8wlw Жыл бұрын
@adventurelaus nah they're just pressed together. Pair of pliers will suffice.