This is like blaming individuals for pollution instead of corporations that do 90% of the pollution.

As an MVS enjoyer, yes there are big, valid problems in the game being rushed and awful monetization. (All of which Warner Bros fault) But I do believe the complaining has massively overflowed into bad faith: - The game is not fast, AKA not Melee, a very vocal opinion in the Plat Fighter community. - People focus way too much on the balance IMO, which is a small part of the game. Any fighting game that allows creative, expressive combos (not even factoring it's unique mechanical structure) is gonna risk many OP combos. - Warner Bros as a company is on a recent losing streak with canceling multiple other projects and that flows into the hate here - Negativity Bias/Gamers (specifically Smash Players which are huge part of MVS's playerbase) are spoiled rotten. Not a knock towards us but we've gotten so much, our expectations are so high when we get something below (whatever we consider) an 8.5 out of 10, then it's not good enough. This game is crafted with plenty of heart and talent, it's just stuck in a field of large, shards of broken concrete by WB, and gamers consistently heckle it whenever it trips or stumbles.

Amazingly well written, and researched. I’m a Jake main and I really can’t approach any character without using horse, and even then I still would get punished. I like your suggestions and agree with pretty much everything you said. Great vid!

I agree with you, I have many complaints I've posted on twitter but those are mainly spammy attacks that do make the game boring

I agree with you 100%

Look how they massacred my boy 🤧

Im masters 1 with jake dont see the problem like get gud lmao

Positive take, smart but also wrong in some places. the game is broken. most characters are literally not viable. Velma and jake are not problems at all. for ME, and thats because every character is a problem except for a few. the game is just wait for the cooldown of your cute little op attack every character has, and the worst part, is that some characters have busted attacks, with barely any cooldown. the game has a million safe attacks that are spammable, and with the small amount of attacks, which the max is 9 for most (i may be wrong about that but even so, the less or even tiny amount i may be off by, is still alarming) . this just makes the game a spam fest. like i said before, some characters are literally not viable when it comes to higher play. Steven Universe, for example, is a tank, yet he DIES at 50. the classes are meaningless. jason can tank steven attacks until he is at 150%. your solution, is to make the WEAKER characters busted so they can compete with the busted characters, but thats not a good way to look at it. Balancing is NEEDED. Wonder Woman, Superman, sometimes iron giant, Taz, Finn, Jack, Joker, Arya are all busted and there is no way around it. ARMOR is not a good mechanic what so ever. and INSTA kill combos are NOT GOOD IN A GAME WHERE NOT ALL CHARACTERS HAVE INSTA KILL COMBOS, Im a steven main. now yes, Steven CAN 0 to death, but it takes 100000X the effort to do it then with say, Fucking all of the characters mentioned previous, this is where CHEESE comes in, THE CHEESY ass crap they gave "almost" every character in the game is ridiculous. You say they listen to the community? really, well when I saw STEVEN UNIVERSE get a nerf in the SAME UPDATE that WONDER WOMAN gets a BUFF. is ridiculous. maybe im wrong about the day or the update thing, but I know steven got NERFED when he didnt need to be. Things that arent needed are being done more than things that are needed. HIT STUN is piss poor, because the HIT BOXES ARE EVEN WORSE. The amount of times i have seen an attack that I SHOULD HAVE LANDED or an attack that I KNOW I GOT HIT BY, but for some reason, it doesnt hit, is alarming. this is why hit stun is garbage because these "loops" that the top tiers have, are all cheese as fuck, Loops are already cheese asf, but its even worse because multiversus has a piss poor animation, hit reg and hit boxes. dont even get me started on the damage to attack ratio. Im a steven main, obviously, but why do the only LEAST RISKY ATTACKS in his KIT do three damage? and why does one full combo from steven do only like 15-25 damage? this brings me to a new point, The Safety of most top tiers, you can dish out so many attacks, that are so safe to do that there isnt any value to trying to combat the cheesiness. for example, Me , in my opinion, kind of goated with steven, fight a Wonder Woman or Superman, the RISK that I AM TAKING as a steven to ENGAGE the Super man or Wonder woman or hell literally any character that isnt steven, is too large, because the combos or attacks i can throw out, is COMPLETELY WALKED THROUGH because of the damage most other characters can dish out. and this goes for really any character that isnt a top tier. in a game that is about the multiverse and the CLASHING of these whacky titles, I sure do see a MILLION SUPERS WONDERS JACKS AND JASONS. because the meta, is play the safest characters in the roster, which happens to be characters with HIGH DAMAGE, and HIGH ARMOR. which happens, to be the top tiers. The reason I play steven is because he takes actual thought and skill to play, (a few other characters do too but, most dont, Morty and Steven are probably the most skillfull characters in the game BY FAR ( in my opinion ) The game has its faults, so does the community, however the game has more problems that the community is just praying that they fix, but instead, they add a new gem to the game, and nerf stevens entire kit

FINALLY someone talking positively about multiversus!

I think wonder woman is smash

Vaexsil the goat

Just make the game speed a bit faster, fix the broken bugs and give us like a 50 euro/dollar character pass rather then this greedy bullshit and I'm chilling. This video is alright but I think you should've highlighted the stuff they do right as well, cuz you also primarily complained in the video about the community but I'd suggest talking about things you enjoy about the game if you ever decide to make a follow up video on this.

Have you or are you going to talk about everyone else?

i want ripper roo in this game

Top #300 jake player here, I think he's fine lmao definitely different from the beta but still very very viable

It's more about how multiversus killed itself

jake is alright, it’s better if u play like slow and abuse when someone dodges because then u can just eat them after,

Biggest nerf to jake was taking away his mathmatical combo counter on his down air 😔

Will you ever do how multiversus murdered steven

Tell me you haven’t played a good Jake without telling me you haven’t played a good Jake. He is still a top tier and your tierlists are wrong especially for 2v2s

The game is pretty much a completely different game now then it was in the beta. I miss old multiversus. What its turned into is very mid.

I have been playing Jake since Multiversus rereleased, and yeah... he kind of sucks now. He isn't really able to abuse the new dodge mechanics like other characters can (mostly spamming dodge to cross up opponents and take back stage control) since he is so slow and his jump doesn't go very far vertically. Meanwhile, his good option coverage moves are insanely slow (down special and skateboard). You would think to yourself "Yeah I can catch someone dodging below me with these moves", but no. Unfortunately, Jake doesn't have ultra fast or active moves for this purpose, like prepatch Bugs nair or Black Adam down air. This makes it so characters can easy camp Jake while spamming him with projectiles. Meanwhile, you try to punish by spacing sairs or taking your time to find an opening... only to be punished with "stop camping debuff". I especially feel this with Morty (who I think is his worst matchup). He spams dirt, which can easily catch your extremly low jump, while also getting opportunities to land his hard-to-land traps on you for free since you extend your hurtbox with your moves. Pretty much forced to play with "stop camping debuff" for the whole game. Jake has some good combo strings and mixups. Neutral B to Neutral B on the side of the stage WAS true, but they basically patched it out by making it easier for opponents to mash out of the command grab after already being eaten (Pretty much impossible to double bite someone now if they know how to mash). The opponent also goes into no lag after successfully mashing out, so they will just dodge away or reversal you. Jab 1 is a great combo starter leading into grounded down attack, grounded down attack, and bite at around 100-130 for a kill (the trick is to jab 1 -> bite -> jump up -> angle it depending on which blastzone is closest and spit them out). If you manage to land it, skateboard still gives okay reward wince you can follow up with nair or bite. Sair is also an INSANELY broken move for edge guarding. You will likely trade with their recovery moves, but if you angle it down you can spike people at literally 0-30 percent and kill them. You can even use it to poke downward through platforms, popping opponents up and true comboing into almost anything. His up special is also still a decent cheese move and can lead into good confirms if the opponent doesn't DI correctly or haphazardly dodges into the move. For changes that would make him better, the main things he needs is a better way to deal with swords and projectiles. Down special is way too laggy to work as a real reflecter and sair trades or loses to everything. Any frame data buff would be appreciated. Even though some characters like Jake are in a bad spot, im still enjoying the game and I think it could bounce back if the developers improved the game speed a bit. Although, I lowkey think Steven and Iron Giant need reworked entirely, they are cringe.

Explained his fallouts, and gave clear sensible solutions. Absolute 10/10 video, wish i could repost (jake main with 480 wins)

Game is meant to be played 2v2 I think everyone os pretty balanced when looked at from a 2v2 lens 1v1 will remain broken because the game wasn’t even meant to truly be played that way

Good fk Jake

Nobody died he's still in the game unlike jason

This game is really not bad at all. People love to complain about every little thing when it comes to games and ruins it for everyone else. I absolutely love this game. Are there bugs? Sure. Is every character completely balanced? Nope. But it doesn’t ruin the game like I see so many people say. Just hit the lab and grind and play the damn game. Every character can compete with any other character when used properly.

"a lot of his moves are pretty slow" tbh you can describe most of the characters compered to their beta counterparts

jake just to slow like i think hes slower at punching so no matter what u cant trade lol

Man if y’all think Jake is bad y’all just haven’t went against that “musty nobody” guy he stomps me everytime in the most irritating cheesiest way possible

They didnt just kill one character the entire game is BEYOND dead already.

Jake is bad, buff everything besides the janky hitbox, it’s about if his body, it should be a hit box, it’s not like Joker’s crowbar or Finn’s Sword!!!

He has a lot out of nair /nair 2 you need to use more

Great video man definitely gonna sub

we didn't deserve this game, its so horrible. and they killed my boy Jake

Man you nailed the youtube scripting format amazingly. Good content.

Not a profitable character

Where is BANJo

Where is Metwo?

real

Steve’s f-tier in the thumbnail because his beard is gone thats the only reason

You had me on the first 4, then you whipped out a Mii and lost me 😂

I think the real problem isn’t that the new fighters are too broken, it’s just that other characters don’t have the tools to deal with them. It’s just like invasive species. In a vacuum, cane toads aren’t necessarily bad, but when they got to Australia, the local meta AKA wildlife didn’t have the counter play to deal with them, so they instead had their survival threatened. For example, when Min Min invaded the Smash ecosystem, since the main anti zoning tools for a lot of characters, their reflectors just didn’t work since Min Mins attacks are technically not projectiles, their viability got threatened. Overall, it’s not about being OP, it’s about other characters not having the necessary tools to beat you.

nice vido, I dont know why that dude is so mad lol

It kind of just makes me sad and lose motivation to play a game, thats why i cant support it

Shielding is frame one, tf you mean "takes 3 frames to come out"

Only works online. I'm a semi pro fighter and in great shape, quite attractive with a good career. Nothing bothers me haha. I've won a couple locals and lost some recently, but people aren't toxic to me because I'll give them a dead leg or steal their girlfriend, if they have one. I'll gladly get DQd knowing some clown who thinks they're cool for playing princess peach and beating an electric cartoon mouse can't walk because of a light punch to the leg. "Have your girl save you" as i wink at her. A good one is getting the girl to smile after you tell them they couldnt stop me from doing it haha. Note im very humble, but ill bring the shit talkin to a real level, real fast when your only skill is smash and you think you can get under my skin. I will have people laughing at you so fast and with my public speaking skills, they will take my side. I'm also halfway decent at the game. I do well at my locals. All but four characters in elite smash as well. With a busy life, I haven't really pursued bigger tournaments though.

Taunting or tbagging does not mean toxicity . toxicity is bad and the smash community is filled to the brim with it. Don't encourage such behaviours, there is a reason why leffen is hated.

This is true, infuriating your opponent with a little toxicity is just another tool to win the mental game, but I would avoid taking this toxicity out of the game in any way. In my opinion, it will earn you more hate than it's worth. Regardless, tilting your opponent so they start performing worse is genuinely an effective strategy that I think shouldn't be so frowned upon. At the end of the day, if you're irritated by someone taunting in a videogame, you bear the fault for letting it get to you and distract you from what matters. Ignoring toxic behavior and trash-talk is the simplest way to avoid getting tilted, and I believe it's really not that hard when you realize how nonsensical it is to be angry at a videogame character performing various silly gestures.

This is something that has been known and done in almost every sport. Its just playing mind games. Unfortunately, gaming communities are too soft to understand that trash talk and brash behaviour are useful tools to gain a competitive advantage against opponents. Its why home field advantage exist in sports. It takes a mentally tough individual to not let it affect their game...