You're messages would have more listeners if Michael got a better microphone set up - terrible audio disparity between him and Mick. Mick is clear as a bell. Michael muffled and bad quality audio.

Very helpful, insightful video. But there was some sound problem. I want to request dr.edlestein to be a bit more louder while speaking. Please don't take me wrong. ❤❤❤❤❤

Has anyone ever written a novel that illustrates the principles of REBT? Do you think that it’s a good idea?

Nick is being a little hard on the guest but I can accept that.

Very good points by Mick about missing the should/must and practising smartly.

I thought it was I nteresting what Ellis says about Trauma in Overcoming Destructive Beliefs, Feelings, and Behaviors : “Traumatic events sometimes severely disrupt protective checking mechanisms that prevent turning desires into demands. If, for example, a youngster is fairly well controlled in taking care of herself physically or tending to her school routines, and she is traumatized by rape, incest, or physical abuse, she may stop her self-controlling habits and almost uncontrollably resort to disruptive behaviors”

These guys dont know shit about aa im in aa and im free to do and hang out with ever i want all the steps did for me is help remove the obsession to drink

The extrovert gentleman here could be more patient and learn from the intovert one by asking about how agressiin and projection are expressed in a conversation.

The angry midget stuttering with the glasses needs 3 minutes of therapy. Angry projecting and trauma dumping in his kitchen is not healthy. Get some help shorty.

You need three minutes thinking

Hoo really you think so. If making your bed is not related contribut any thing to having your day you guys aren't thinking right.

Every one in denile. Hey if you dont like aa you dont have to go

Thanks for this guys. I've found it, unlike most of Jordan Peterson's output, very straightforward and discernable. To me, Peterson's theories and opinions are most often extremely woolly, confusing and cloaked in a thick forest of wordiness. That being said, it's hard to be wrong all the time! I'd be interested to hear what you think of Gabor Maté.

She said everyone is a diabetic now? My doctor never told me I was a diabetic. But she did say I am overweight.

Can you guys do a video about coping with poverty from an REBT perspective?

Came here after listening to it lol

Michael *did* say "anxious", "depressed", fyi...Listen to the playback, Mick 😅

" a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still".

Trust... Reliability to act in a certain way without surprises!

Wow, these idiots have no idea what alcoholism actually is, or even how to deal with it, no wonder why there recovery center went bankrupt.

Great stuff! Hey Mick will you do REBT based life coaching?

Excellent! Thanks.

Progeny are created from 13 Stepping. Even in a region where collectively it seems that the sexual chakra is not used hardly at all during the height of the AIDs epidemic.

19:22 The host does the office of moving things along. There was an EST spinoff called Lifespring that was shopped around circa 87 or so. Bad outcome.

A Teller Mine consequence. I use the analogy of Albert Pierpoint often. The 13th Step is like the Scaffold. 13 knots, 13 steps, Boy meets girl on AA campus, boom the trap opens. You and your pelvic affiliate do not die a bodily death, or drink necessarily, but they are both at Step One.

There are laughs that would rival Precious Pup from the cartoons. This when you hear "The most important person in the room is the newcomer.....followed by ...fuck the newcomer."

At 17:39 Proof positive that you can always find quality people in Sproul Plaza. Manson and Teresa Bruner.

17:10 Correctomundo! The doer! That act of volition. Self Will 100%. "Do you have a plan?" a common ER question when one claims to be suicidal. I know of an instance where the one drunk talking to another morphed into suicide coaching by phone. They succeeded.

When R.D Laing died one of the pallbearers sprinnkled out a couple of mini bottles of Chivas on the casket. Would Laing have been a more effective therapist were he sober. Too late.

At 15:39 I think I can recall a case where a brilliant entreprenuer/sculptor commited suicide. Yet not knowing his subjective state the WHY of it cannot be fathomed. The Why in suicide baffles people often.

In the 80s AA was thought to be the new EST. In the film The Player, Tim Robbins, pulls off the road, his in the glove box FAX machine goes off. Robbins checks his buds itinnerary. Yup AA that is where the deals are made.

People turn to alternatives like Rational Recovery, Read Books like "How AA let me down" SOS was big for a while for those who hated "God Shit" (Bob's story Emotions Anonymous). Yes friends lots of things happen on that "Last House on the Block". The Teller mine effect of the 13th Step, the bamboozlers who pull of long and short con. Ricky Reduntants. Psychopaths and Sociopaths trying to break the HARE scale. Zoom ensures Arms Length to some degree. I used to frolic in the Sunset District to get out of the Berkeley Bubble. I used to secretly smirk at back page ads for roommates with the stipulation NO 12 STEPPERS. Yet, yet, tonight I thought about what if I had a 8' x 8' bulletin board and put in a black push pin for each AA that I could not account for. Has the recidivism rate been quantified? It kills? I know of a case in which that happened. Personality Poisoning (CODEPENDENCY) is a result of the toxicity level in meetings, alano clubs, etc. Is AA narrow?

Thanks guys. Enjoyed this episode.

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We might be right that things are pretty terrible but they could be worse. Much much worse. Hey ho. There might be a reason to be positive.

Excellent!

It takes two to tango (and to tangle!), :)

Guys, your „practical“ tips are mostly not helpful. The screen time thing is nonsense. Practical tips are most often sleep efforts leading to more insomnia! Check out Dr. Daniel Erichson The Sleep Coach school. Thanks!

I guess that people making money from helping addicted people are upset because AA is free. Check out the Stanford University scientific study that shows that AA works better for people to maintain sobriety that all other therapies. But whatever floats your boat and help you.

It’s amazing to me how people criticize an organization that teaches to be honest, forgive, face your fears, and think about helping others. I’m stopping listening to this 10 minutes in. Academics blowing their own horns.

Doing REBT in dreams... Cool!

I’m glad I again found these; I met you when I worked part time at enterprise. You were a nice guy when we met.

30 years of tearing something down not living in the solution of whatever that might be,

Did I hear him say predators own the facilities,, what's the name of your establishment you run doctor???

Who would spend 30 years of their life tearing something down rather than working in the solution!! Additionally my fellow travelers, people are all the same essentially, and those disagreeing make my point

I think the amusing thing is that all the professionals I have met in the mental health industry , only the ones who are real alcoholics and have recovered have worked through the book as per the program of recovery described within the first 164 pages . I have never met non alcoholic mental health care professional who's worked through the book as described . Of course they don't understand , AA that's the whole point . One of my closest friends since childhood is the director of staff for one of the largest recovery companies in California . When he asked me for a book I offered to take him through the first 164 pages the way I would take another alcoholic and he laughed in my face. Hubris.

Nice one! Thanks.

Sobriety is just self inflicted misery.Just drink beer and relax.

Interesting discussion however going from 'spontaneously depressed' to 'spontaneously not depressed'??? You can't very well do that if there are biological factors involved making you depressed. Plus it seems more like mindfulness to do REBT, not spontaneity. Agree, if you have practiced REBT and it has become ingrained/second nature you can become faster at making what looks like spontaneous decisions or actions.

I got a topic for you guys. Eric Berne’s therapy vs rebt. I love your KZbin channel!