Time-codes: 0:00 Practices consistently used in top product companies 3:37 Different types of Product Managers (innovators, builders, optimizers, etc.) is not a feature, it's a bug 5:16 When is evidence enough and when do we need more rigor vs. when do we optimize and when do we do bigger experiments? 9:19 Product Operating Model in US vs. EU 11:59 Limitations and tradeoffs of a Product Operating Model compared to alternatives 14:10 Who do you know from experimentation community? 16:50 Value capture vs. value creation baskets 20:23 Double Diamond vs. How we Build, How we Solve problems, How we Choose what problems to solve 23:20 Can experimentation be a Trojan Horse for a change to a Product Operating Model? 26:40 How do we transit to Product Operating Model? 27:44 How to help "experimentation people" to see the bigger opportunities? 30:30 Does Product Operating Model fit all teams? 32:51 Any advises on Team Topology? Product Trio. 35:26 When we don't need a Product Manager? 39:23 Can non-engineering teams apply Product Operating Model principles? 41:34 User Researchers and Data Analysts in a Product Team 46:26 Marty's feedback on an example of experimentation team structure 54:00 How can we (consultancy agents) come in from the outside and influence organizations to improve on a practical level? 56:50 Thanks

Love that we started to have long interviews with Marty Cagan on a single topic! Enzo Avigo's interview on Early stage startups. Phil Hornby's interview on Roadmaps. Now your interview on Experiments. Love that! They give me so many insights on a Product Operating Model from different perspectives! Thank you!

There's so much bullshit jargon in this. How would anyone know what the fuck this crap is about?

Kevin seems to subscribe to the cycle of positivity as well! Thanks for this interview it just shows there really isn't a vertical you can't test in if you have the customers/visitors/users

Thanks for the insights! Have a great week!!!

Can you link the stack .app database visualisation software you mentioned? I'm a fan of airtable and would like to try others.