U can't unwind the spring it don't work,u can wind it tighter and that works
@robertholsopple94514 ай бұрын
My spring was installed wrong by whoever owned my quad before i did, would that make the quad not start / stall? I have to crank it 100s of times to make it start, other times, it fires up in milliseconds. I replaced everything short of engine internals chasing this problem. Wont start and at times has a miss or bad studder while accelerating, once its very hot, it does good. Its hard diagnosing proplems with variables in the issues it has. This compression release problem makes some sence to me as the culprit because it moves with the cam and was covering the release in the cam at different degrees of success. The previous owner has the spring bent or it was damaged from slapping around inside the engine. Where did you buy your replacement springs? Do you know the part # for it? Thanks for these videos. I appreciate your hard work and time!
@robertholsopple94514 ай бұрын
Where can I buy a new spring? I looked all over the internet and I dont have a Polaris dealer anywhere near me. Thanks for makimg these videos!
@rotorway1335 ай бұрын
What if while cranking, I tons very strong vacuum going into the carb but I have zero compression (???) 😮
@justicebruno52495 ай бұрын
Thank you
@justicebruno52495 ай бұрын
Does this make the pull start super hard? I can hardly pull it. And the starter just went out. Or it can't turn it over. Thanks
@robertholsopple94514 ай бұрын
I wondered the same thing. My scrammy wouldnt start maybe 1 in ever 200 cranks of the electric starter. I tore my engine apart and noticed the spring on the compression release wasnt on correctly. Someone put a new cam im it. I fixed the spring and now waiting on gaskets put i noticed its very hard to pull now but it will go riggt after the compression stroke, it didnt do that before. I hope its fixed.
@big_watson20156 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video, when I got my new one in I accidentally pulled that piece out and couldn’t figure out how it went back back together, but now I know, great video
@paulatkinson16306 ай бұрын
His a right way to do it and how I can know the right way
@shyancole24907 ай бұрын
Definitely are not supposed to put grease in oil on a clutch especially where it makes contact with a belt always a bad idea
@steveross905810 ай бұрын
Wow! You knocked it out of the park! I had give up and carried a extra battery to start mine. But after your video and explanation I was able to get the compression release to work. Thank you.
@dylanschnarrs53510 ай бұрын
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@rchastain252311 ай бұрын
Why don’t you just put another turn on the spring to increase pressure? That’s a lot easier than trying to remodel the spring, and will probably provide more tension than your un-coiling method. Do you think that would create too much pressure? Or?? Thanks
@brianperkins61217 ай бұрын
if you pre-wind the spring you will get way too much return spring tension and your compresion release will not release at idle.. (you can hear it stuck on tapping the valves open when it should be released no suprise this will also effect your abilty to idle and probbly does wonders for the cam follower and the Exhaust valves) the spring return force needs to be very light , that is why he is making such a point as to slightly unwinding the spring so that when you install it will provide just enougth tension to return the compression release back to the dowel pin , But as soon as the machine starts , the cetrifical force on the weight must be enougth too overcome the spring and rotate the rod into the release position. I made the mistake of adding prewind to the spring and had to take it apart again , as it would not disengage the compression release untill I got over 700 RPM
@russchastain93757 ай бұрын
@@brianperkins6121 I’ve learned that the info in this video is entirely wrong. If the spring is modified to increase tension, the engine will run but it makes a hellish racket because the ball beats against the cam rocker. But when installed as per factory specs / spring, it works fine. In short, this video is full of it IMO.
@brianperkins61217 ай бұрын
@@russchastain9375 The issue I have experenced myself is replacement cams where the compression release's spring tension was incorrect out of the box,, the spring tension has to be just barely strong enougth to return compression release weight to the dowel pin , otherwise , the compression release wont kick off after the engine starts , tweaking the spring so that it just barely provides enougth counter torque to return the weight to the dowel pin , '"but" not so much counter tension that the centrifugal force acting on the weight will dissengage the compression release at idle , its quite a delicate ballence , I have also had issues with very weak return springs causing the compression release to not work and the starter being unable to overcome full compression .. the design polaris used is very prown to even tiny issues causing issues with its operation .., his point is correct you cant wind a turn onto the spring its return force will be to high , you have to unwind the spring adjusting its tenson if you run into an issue with its counter torque being to low to spring back the weight to dowel pin , you cant wind an extra turn onto the spring the return force torque will end up being so high the compresion release will refuse to disengage and you will also hear the racket it makes in the process.. you should not have to mess with it at all it should just work but in my findings that has not been what I have run into ,,
@christinemislang791 Жыл бұрын
❤ A Christmas Miracle 🎄 ♥️ Thanks to God 😊 It was his Perfect Timing , So Amazing
@Jake910HO Жыл бұрын
My ball fell out
@johnfleming6205 Жыл бұрын
Good info video sucks
@philmachineman8927 Жыл бұрын
Shuch Elegant Simplicity. 😎 And Dead On Accurate.
@jsimm4587 Жыл бұрын
You do know what happens when the spring is too tight I hope !
@brianperkins61217 ай бұрын
If the spring exerts to much force , you will have the opposite issue , the compression release will be stuck on at idle , this will cause issues with idle and in many cases you can hear it tapping aka bumping the exhaust valves open. if your increase the engine rpms and this goes away your spring is exerting to much return force,, the spring return force needs to be very light . .
@gregorycracium6209 Жыл бұрын
The camshaft looked chewed up on the lob the bike will begin to lose power
@jsimm4587 Жыл бұрын
How many turns did he tighten the spring ?
@jsimm4587 Жыл бұрын
I guess take it out and toss it .
@ruthiebabe3 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video. The pictures and your slow methodical approach make things clear. I struggled for years with no compression release. I had no idea the solution was so simple.
@jellyspears Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JohnnieBravo1 Жыл бұрын
Looking at buying a 97 Sportsman 500, and "supposedly" this is its problem. I was looking for info on how it works, and how much trouble it is to fix that. Doesn't look too bad! Thank you for this video. (I had to download it, and rotate it 90 degrees clockwise to keep my head straight ;-) ) . New subscriber!
@fatcatclark8428 Жыл бұрын
need a video on a 02 325 magnum comp release...
@BillMorriss Жыл бұрын
I like your video, can this repair on the Spring be done without removing the whole cam from the motor?
@rchastain252311 ай бұрын
Yes
@williamhartgrave6105 Жыл бұрын
I had polaris rebiuld my top end for bad cames now the starter dont want to turn it over and it will ripe your arm off trying to pull start it they told me i needed a new starter ill never go back ther again
@CALewis-xg1je Жыл бұрын
wow...they obviously didn't set the decompression assembly correctly. That's a real unprofessional move on their part. A magnet on the cam lobe and putting the spring on like oem works perfect. Doing it like the video shows will add to the tension it takes to release the decomp. Definitely don't want to add tension.
@justicebruno52495 ай бұрын
Exactly what I have going on.. impossible to pull start
@JohnX-369 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir!
@doit5000 Жыл бұрын
Why won't it start with the pull starter? Does the pull start still pull hard even with the compression release fixed on the cam?
@justicebruno52495 ай бұрын
I'm having this issue
@aaronfischer7199 Жыл бұрын
Necessity is the mother of invention. If I don't have at hand something that will work I will make devise or concoct something that will do. Because I can not in the outback of Australia that I can just go to the local part supplier or machine shop to grab something.
@corey6393 Жыл бұрын
I have done some similar mods to my HF changer, but I didn't build the big top mechanism yet. I would be interested to see your design in more detail. I have the duckhead simply bolted to the end of the long bar from the HF setup. It works, but needs more guidance than the setup you have. I like the idea of the standalone bead breaker. I modded the stock bead breaker on mine, but it certainly has its shortcomings.
@moparnut6286 Жыл бұрын
This video made me sub!! Nice job man.
@kooldoozer Жыл бұрын
Very practical and useful mods makes for a great working machine. Nice. -Doozer
@michaelbragg2694 Жыл бұрын
You sure do like to talk
@stevenbenavente1229 Жыл бұрын
Good job
@bobbyadamo152 Жыл бұрын
When does a fuel pump , pump coolant ? Not being sarcastic Mabe you have info I can use, please respond. Mabe that’s why my radiator keeps exploding
@makingcookingfixing Жыл бұрын
i just checked the price $5,500 !! not $1,500
@BillMorriss Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Very helpful. Can this repair on the spring be done without removing the cam?
@brucecleveland6094 Жыл бұрын
Can this be pulled and adjusted and reinstalled without taking out the cam?
@CALewis-xg1je Жыл бұрын
yes, take the cam cover off on the side of the head. You'll have to take the valve cover off as well and use a magnet to pull the decomp ball forward so the pin slides all the way in. the cam has a hole in the bottom of the lobe where the ball is made to stick out for the decomp of the left exaust valve.
@justinfuller919offroad3 Жыл бұрын
I got a question I just tried this and now the rod won't go all the way back in what did I do wrong
@justinfuller919offroad3 Жыл бұрын
I pulled the rod out rewound the spring and now the rod stops about a half inch front seating back all the way in
@thegoodstuff-gs3sl Жыл бұрын
Your check ball is down in the hole, turn it over and see if it’ll fall back down
@justinfuller919offroad3 Жыл бұрын
thank you I tried than and it did fall back down all is good so if anyone ever tried this no way no how can that ball fall out I found out ur good but thanks for thr response
@CALewis-xg1je Жыл бұрын
You have to take the valve cover off and use a magnet. Stick the magnet on the cam lobe that has the decomp ball hole so it pulls the ball towards it then the pin will slide in. It's on the exaust side so take off your gas tank and front plastic.
@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Жыл бұрын
This would have been a great, useful video IF .... I'd been able to see & hear what you are doing! Next time, please recruit someone to work the camera. Thanks anyway for trying.
@jsimm4587 Жыл бұрын
I would half to agree with you he mumbles around for 5 mins can’t see the part then you can’t tell what he doing I was hopeful for a good video explaining this but i just took stills of his close ups to try and tell about how it goes . Also did anyone see how wore out that exhaust lobe is !!!
@danelldecker3696 Жыл бұрын
Just picked up one of these and got it running again after years of sitting in pieces. Went to bed that night thinking routine maintenance tomorrow. Next day no start. I checked all the usual things but found nothing. I watched your video and checked mine, Bingo thanks for the help
@NortheastVintage2 жыл бұрын
Good information. Thank you. But please but a camera tripod. 👍
@northstarjack2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what brand is this? We have an oxford precision rotangle and we're trying to find something similar and this is the closest I've seen so far
@garypitzer87292 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I would be afraid the grease and oil would fling out of that hole and make the belt slip.
@nicscobee62422 жыл бұрын
Was this causing a no start issue mine will crank half a turn then will have to stop and hit starter button again .. I found my spring was bad waiting on a new one .
@makerspace5332 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It was good to see the resistor value you use. Just a bit aside. It's not a good idea to run the lathe without the chuck jaw under load, tightened against a workpiece or themselves. The centrifugal force and vibration can cause the jaws to come loose and fly out.
@fourbyfourer2 жыл бұрын
You are totally wrong @ 1:33 when you said "the ball is completely safe, it is never gonna fall out, it's trapped in there for life". I repaired a 2010 sportsman 500 in May of 2022 and that actuator ball had indeed came out of the camshaft!! AND AGAIN, I said it in your other video and I will say it again, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO WIND THE SPRING TO TIGHTEN IT!! Polaris specifically states that on the instruction sheet they send with a new OEM camshaft, or the compression release will not disengage when the engine starts!!
@ed6319412 жыл бұрын
First , I start my video by identifying MY POLARIS 1998 500. Polaris changes designs like a high schooler changes dresses. The ball in MY POLARIS IS TRAPPED FOR LIFE. SECOND ,MAYBE just maybe by 2022 polaris MIGHT have learned how to make the spring. Obviously they are STILL MAKING DEFECTIVE CAMS .EBAY has page after page of venders selling REPLACEMENT CAMS for polaris. I am a tool and die maker and spun my cam in my lathe. The spring disengaged at 500 rpm, the idle speed is around 800 rpm.This is perfect. Edwin Dirnbeck
@jeremiahlf Жыл бұрын
@@ed631941. Engine rpm is measured at the crankshaft. The camshaft rotates at half the crank speed. If the compression release stays engaged until 500 rpm on the cam alone then the engine would need to be running at a minimum of 1000 rpm to get full compression. That’s too high. Cam speed is not the engine idle speed.
@fourbyfourer2 жыл бұрын
NOPE, you don't wind that cam spring to add tension to it!! It clearly states on the slip of paper that comes with a new OEM camshaft "DO NOT PRE-WIND THE SPRING ONE FULL TURN OR THE COMPRESSION RELEASE WILL NOT DISENGAGE WHEN THE ENGINE STARTS". "IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SPRING PRESSURE IS VERY LIGHT". I just replaced a camshaft in a 2010 sportsman 500 in May of this year 2022, and the centrifugal weight acted the same way as the one you showed before you wound it and I never touched the spring. But I totally agree on the part that the polaris "engineers" should be kicked in the n#ts for making such a mickey mouse setup. I am in no way a polaris guy for MANY reasons like that.
@thegoodstuff-gs3sl Жыл бұрын
Then what’s the fix? My 2001 is getting 125psi on compression
@CALewis-xg1je Жыл бұрын
@@thegoodstuff-gs3slwhat's wrong with 125 psi of compression? You mean it's too much and the starter wont spin the engine?
@matthewlowry9913 Жыл бұрын
Can that cause the starter to not spin the engine as it should? Or just the pool start?
@jsimm4587 Жыл бұрын
@@thegoodstuff-gs3slyours probably isn’t closing the spring is loose maybe overheated and took the temper out .