This is what happens when someone reaches conclusions based upon assumption. Stick to playing the guitar, you're good at that. Business? Not so much.

"Didn't intend to spread misinformation."... But you did spread misinformation. Why? 1. You don't know anything about manufacturing and the costs involved and 2. You didn't do research to find out what those costs might be. You owe those 132,000 subscribers of yours an apology too. Poorly done!

You never read Atlas Shrugged. Read it and then make a comment.

Double the amount of views for the apology as for the original vid! Classic. Good on you for doing the decent thing and making things right. Just look at your expenses and profit/loss for making vids on KZbin. Same deal. Nickel and dimed everywhere. BTW: There’s four knobs here, the three on the pedal and the one making this video was genius.

You’re lucky you picked one of the classiest guys in the music world to mess with. And you yourself showed some class with the apology vid.

Anything to attract new subs, huh?

I like to think of it this way: I can go to a restaurant and order a Burger, fries and a drink which will cost me X amount. I can sit there and think to myself that I could have easily made the same meal at home for far less money. Despite this being true, I don't run a business with employees, produce to purchase, taxes to pay, and salaries to pay out. Am I being ripped off by the burger joint? Depends on the experience! If I am satisfied with the cost versus satisfaction, then I bought exactly what I paid for. Cheers

Good for you for this video. It’s quite rare these days…also…Josh is the man

Killer Myles Kennedy PRS! I’m desperate for them to do an SE version but I doubt it’s going to happen 😢

So you’re sending the income you made from these uninformed click bait JHS bashing vids to a charity in Josh’s name?

Hands down the best Eric Johnson song, for me at least. So good. Cheers John.

You know what you get when you assume...

That was the first CD I ever purchased when I was a kid & lonely in the night was my favorite song.

Pedal prices keep going up but a bar will still only pay a 4-piece band a hundred bucks total to play for four hours. I think that's the real issue in the world of the performing musician!

Why didnt you focus on a co. thats on the higher end of prices like Chase Bliss or Strymon?

Love this song. Thanks for breaking this down. I was lucky enough to get an autographed vinyl copy of this album at a show last year. Also, I’ll be interested to hear your take on that PRS.

The responsible thing to do here (and it was a real missed opportunity) would have been to reach out first to Josh and JHS with your questions … before just throwing out a bunch of uninformed speculation to your 100k+ subscribers. You have a pretty sizable platform … and Josh seems open to freewheeling discussions … so I think you could’ve done a video with him exploring these questions. I may just be shouting into the void here, but I do wish more creators would take this approach: Do some reporting, try to foster informed discussion rather than clickbait.

Putting out a apology video is to be commend, however buddy, you need some education. Like, real world financial education. Because the way you come across when held to account is WILD!

This is a level of humility I haven't seen on KZbin probably ever. The world needs more of this. It is okay to admit when we're wrong. Thanks for making this vid

The MK2 240 is the Big Boy amp for gigging. Demo that one with the classic amp setting.

I appreciate this video and the responsibility that John is taking for his original video. In hind sight it may have been better for John to reach out to Josh before doing any like this to get the facts first. Especially since (and John admits this) he is not a pedal builder and has not idea about the costs related to creating a pedal. My message to John (and other YT creators) is if you want to look at a company ripping people off then start with Fender! I have loved Fender guitars since I was a kid. But to see what American Tele's and Strat's are going for is obscene. This is why there's such a large market for parts-casters. I wanted a new Jazzmaster pickguard and Fender is selling them for $120!!!!!!! No thanks.

But you keep making these apologies - it is clear you don't know enough about the subject matter you are talking about. Stick to playing guitar

I’ve suddenly completely lost interest in guitar pedals.

Been watching for years but tbh don’t always watch pedal videos as it’s a rabbit hole I haven’t went down so didn’t see the “ rip off “ video and the builders response until today . Think it’s case of lesson learned and move on . Wouldn’t go questioning PRS etc on costs 😳

How about doing some research and know what you are talking about before you open your mouth to the world?

Lonely in the Night for me as well is my favorite EJ song. And the Outro solo for me is in the same league as Comofrtably Numb outro solo. Just amazing! For sure one of my favorites ever.

Definitely one of my favourite EJ tracks too

really cool stuff! i reckon something like this but slightly more powerful to run for example a single Neural DSP plugin (with whichever stomp/amp/cab/eq/delay/reverb there is in each preset) would be an easy buy for me

Retailers are the ones ripping us off. They've been marking stuff up close to 100% forever.

I work in retail for a very large international retail company. There is a lot that people do not understand and the risk is people call things “rip off” without understanding the reality. The next question is going o be, why is the dealer mark up so big? Let’s think about the logistics. JHS will make a batch of peddles in one go, then they will sell slowly. This means it may cost £x to build, but then every week it isn’t sold, is money tied up that cannot be reinvested. That has to be taken into account in the price. Same for the dealer. The dealer could buy 50, and sell 1 per month. Again, if the dealer borrowed money to buy the stock, and are paying monthly interest, after month 1 the dealer made profit on 1, and paid interest on 49. If they use their own money, that’s money that cannot be spent on anything else. It is why on line is often cheaper. 50 units in a store has the local area to sell in. On line only, 50 units is sold nationwide/ worldwide, meaning they should charge a fraction of the price. If an on line retailer isn’t massively cheaper, they are potentially ripping you off so go and support your local retailer 😉

Good man

Hey man, maybe try making videos about guitar playing or cool guitars and amps and less about stupid stuff like how much a business should charge for something. We never asked how much Boss, Ibanez, MXR etc. should be charging for a pedal back in the day. This is some crap young generations of snowflakes who never worked very hard worry about.

What a lovely tune to finish off an apology vid. Very nicely played 👍

If you think $150 is too much for a pedal wait until you need a plumber, have one guy stop by your house and work for 15 minutes and hand you a $185 bill… better yet, if he brings a helper you will probably be charged $300 for the service call and spend the rest of the week wondering why you just didn’t change that faucet yourself😂

its so nice to see actual thought and feeling going into a video. I have always had the highest respect for both you and Josh. to see this level of integrity in a youtube video restores my faith in the few content creators that are willing to admit a mistake. so much love and respect for you keep up the great work :)

I didn't know you before all that, just saw Joshs video, it's not often that this kinda thing ends in people being very nice, respectful, honest, likable and admit to their errors and even learn out of them. But this time it did. Fair fecks to you! You seem like a decent guy, and I'll go check out more of your videos.

The irony for me is that he didn’t instead do a video asking “Are digital amp modeler companies ripping us off?”.

People need to stop assuming businesses are evil. Without businesses, no one in our civilization would have anything.

As someone with a platform it is your responsability to know what you are talking about before you make a video calling out a pedal maker for ripping you off. Josh is always a class act. I see this video as you stumbling through a 17 minute apology/explanation. Just say "I am an ass and I have no idea what I am talking about" and move on.

You should take the new Crimson Josh offered and follow up

Politely, you're a nit-wit.

Thanks for putting this out. Watching your original post on this it seemed apparent you lacked any experience running a business. I can understand without experience how you might question pricing. Good on you for the apology. BTW I love your channel.

30% direct margin on the JHS revenue is reasonable. I’d suggest the % margins for JHS are around the same even for 3 Series pedals.

Maybe next time before slag someone like Josh you should reach out to them for an explanation first ….. as opposed to being a KZbin Einstein and putting misinformation out there.

Fair play, Son. I only came to your channel from the JHS vid to verbally boot off. But was immediately faced with this and appreciate the ability to own up.

I’ve read several comments. Have not seen, maybe I’ve missed it, the element of competition. Since about 15 years ago everybody and their dog, and the plethora of Chinese companies, started building pedals there are so many companies in this space there is no way anyone could “rip you off”. Free market Capitalism / human nature simply won’t allow it.

I thought your video just reeked of smart-arsery tbh. It’s a bit like someone questioning you earning £200-£400 for a session gig, but not taking into account years of practice required or the thousands of pounds worth of equipment needed for that gig, travel time, vehicle costs, rehearsal costs, time spent learning the repertoire, childcare while you’re working, hotels, food etc etc etc etc… I’m glad Josh was nice in his response, as not many others would be.

TALKING about things you do not know, giving judgement on subjects you do not know leads to that. Play guitar, you’re very good at that.

There‘s nothing weird about a Tele, it‘s only in your head.

This is not an apology. This is you rationalizing being confidently ignorant, spreading hogwash on the internet about an American business in MY community. Time for you to take a break from the internet bub. Your impulse just so say whatever pops in your head astounds me. Unbefitting of a KZbinr.