Great tutorial! That randomized patch is super psychedelic. Nice work. I own the Voltage Lab 2 which I have come to love so much that I am reconsidering the Tiaga as an addition to fill in some of the missing pieces within the VL2 such as simple ADSR envelopes, Hi pass/Bandpass Filters, and sync jack inputs. I love how large the filter knob is and how much space is around that knob to get performative with it The shape knobs are also nice in that respect. A well throughout layout by Pittsburgh - much better than many other semi modular synths and modules. I would personally hesitate to include the phrase "subtractive synth" to describe this synth due to the fact that at least 50% of its features are not typical subtractive/east coast features. Three wavefolders and a lowpass gate, combined with the subtractive filter makes it a well rounded synth. It is a shame that it doesn't have cv over envelopes or the lfo rate and that the envelope times are hard to have fine control over. Pretty important stuff. I do find that the course tune on the voltage Lab 2 is a bit too sensitive. I wish that all modern oscillators had a lock-in-place button like the frap tools brenso to avoid accidentally knocking it out of tune.
@PspiralifeTutorials19 күн бұрын
An all-round great tutorial! Looking forward to more. Your delivery is awesome. Your patch diagrams are easy to read, I like how they appear either next to or overlaid the camera view. And also, its so refreshing to hear the patch in the context of music that is well produced and mixed. That seems to be very rare in the EuroTuber scene. I would love to see more XAOC, FRAP TOOLS, & JORNALOGUE.
@NoahLifMusic19 күн бұрын
Great video, I like the way you go through things quickly yet in detail. I had a Quadigy and while I loved its functionality I found it to be too fiddly for how I like to work, and I ended up with a Quadrax for my workhorse 4-channel AR/ASR/LFO needs. There's just so much it can do and I found it quite easy to get around once I got used to a few button combos. CV routing is a little wonky and I wish it had more CV ins, but it's so good I'm considering another. Zadar is simply too menu-based and fiddly for what I like with modular (tried it at Perfect Circuit a while back).
@PspiralifeTutorials25 күн бұрын
I like your style of tutorial/overview. The diagrams really speak to me better than other KZbinrs doing Eurorack. I really appreciate the comparison of these modules. Often i am comparing several modules to make the best choice for my needs, and you have just made it very easy to do some of that reserach, Thanks and keep it up!!
@krelnarbАй бұрын
Okay, so... both I guess.
@jonkruth4157Ай бұрын
Morphagene for rythmik and abhar Textur es Love it
@TheSoundConvergenceАй бұрын
Short and concise! Exactly how I normally use them, too.
@ElectricWoundАй бұрын
The Zadar can realtime warp each waveform along time and amplitude, mirror along the time axis and you can freely adjust the timing from audio rate to half an hour. Also you can freely adjust the amplitude from 0 to 10V. And with the NIN expander you have CV control over 2 parameters per channel (while I seldomly use more than one). It is unquestionably less direct than the other modules. Its handling can be a little tedious, but it is intuitive nonetheless and it provides by far the most variety and most complex waveshapes in all frequency ranges, especially when you use cross-modulation. I think, it is the best envelope generator for complex sound design, generative patches and ambient pads. I also have the Quadigy, but I confess, I haven't ever considered CVing it, yet. It is my go to ADSR+ envelope. I should spend more time on making use of more of its features. The Quadrax sounds very interesting, but I'm good with what I have.
@TheSoundConvergenceАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I agree that the Zadar is capable of the most complex waveshapes and the most extreme time intervals, whereas the other two modules are more straightforward but also more limited. Kinda fun that they each carve out their own ideal use-cases!
@LauraTVK2023Ай бұрын
❤
@GeorgeLocke2 ай бұрын
This channel will have 10k subscribers in a year if these keep up
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, I will do my best!
@cicada87902 ай бұрын
reminds me of driver down fron lost highway
@Joypadrick2 ай бұрын
How to arrange Patchcables😜
@EntonDelMonte2 ай бұрын
Amazing sounds, tipps, and production value. Keep it up!
@OoraMusic2 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and I am already a fan. Very interesting way of talking about music. Refreshing and inspiring. Thanks!
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@alexeykurilo43812 ай бұрын
great content!
@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC2 ай бұрын
This was very enjoyable!
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
Your modules are always a treat!❤
@Gallanitte2 ай бұрын
Yet another excellent essay that summarizes a great selection of theory papers into modern composition techniques. This is my second watch because there’s too much good stuff to take in at once. Thank you so much for making this and sharing your knowledge.
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
Too kind! I'm happy that it's useful!
@3kuad2 ай бұрын
Love the stuff you're exploring and explaining here. Thanks!
@ZeusFabien2 ай бұрын
Really like the video. Similar taste in modules. Curtis Roads has so much to offer
@ZeusFabien2 ай бұрын
Plus, I love your ~(;,,,,,;)~ octopus wall picture
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
@@ZeusFabien love the artist, check her out! instagram.com/susl.illustration/
@uncannydeduction2 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@smolkotm2 ай бұрын
First Comment!
@electrummodularmusic2 ай бұрын
Great video - lots of food for thought here! Are you familiar with Georgina Born's "Making Time" article? She takes a more philosophical approach to music and time...
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
I am not very familiar but just looked it up! Social anthropology is not exactly my area of expertise but the paper is intriguing in its combinations of music, history and actor theory. Thanks for the recommendation!
@analogueghostmusic2 ай бұрын
I've said it before, but it bears repeating - you have one of the most unique takes on applications of modular synthesis I've come across. Thought-provoking ideas. It's very refreshing to see an emphasis on techniques and musical ideas (as opposed to why I should buy x module lol). Always a treat to see the stuff you make :)
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I am happy to fill out this niche with some of my knowledge and ideas of music composition. :) I have quite a few more topics I want to talk about, it will just take a while!
@brainbox92192 ай бұрын
I’m planning a build around this and a X0X style sequencer, Nerdseq would be the brain and then the other sequencer would handle other things, mostly triggering drums, but yeah, have to get this, love trackers and it has many many features, thanks for video
@marizuokereke73472 ай бұрын
Good video. Whilst its correct that you cant use a keyboard with the base Nerdseq, you can use one to speed up workflow with the multi-io expander. This also gives an encoder for faster input and allows you to use a Launchpad for on the fly pattern launching! So cool.
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
Very true! Great bit of information, thank you for bringing it up! The Launchpad is a great way to speed up the Nerdseq workflow, especially live!
@BrailleSounds2 ай бұрын
One of my favorite modulation sources to use with ultra Perc!!!
@GeorgeLocke2 ай бұрын
Great patches, great music, great explanations. Overall: i hated it. J/K it was great.
@originalfallinggirl2 ай бұрын
I love that you are using Thomas’s Nerdseq! Thomas is a great guy and never stops adding features to this legendary sequencer.
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
Yes, he's amazing! He even helped me troubleshoot a technical issue I had once. He's really in touch with his community
@originalfallinggirl2 ай бұрын
I feel embarrassed to ask but can you tell me which module is to the left of the Arbhar 2hp expander? Is it an Instruo licensed module or a third party expander of Arbhar by chance? Thanks so much and I really enjoyed this video. I hope you continue uploading these quality videos. 🙏🙏❤️❤️
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
It's the relatively new USB expander by Instruo! It is now part of every Arbhar you buy (marketed Arbhar 2.0) or can be bought separately for 100€-ish. All it does is it makes the USB input from the back of the Arbhar available on the front, for easy sample swapping via USB stick.
@originalfallinggirl2 ай бұрын
Excellent vid 🙏❤️
@sebastianmeister50392 ай бұрын
Hello! Where you design thé patch?
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
You mean the schematic? Just using PowerPoint
@guyyefet58042 ай бұрын
thanks for that! i'm really want to get that one. using quadigy for my modulation source for this kind of rhythmic modulations, but it got is limitations in that role. interested to know how do you use the quadigy.
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
I normally use the Quadigy for exponentially-shaped ADSR curves in all of my subtractive synthesis patches. I tend not to use it clocked but only because I have the ModMedusa, PNW, or Performer for beat-synced envelopes. That being said, I like the Quadigy a lot for sidechaining hihats or bass as the Quadigy has more control over the exact envelope shape compared to the other 3.
@smartassrecords3 ай бұрын
great video , I love shakmat . what are you using for the kick , it sounds so good.
@TheSoundConvergence2 ай бұрын
The SSF Entity Ultra-Kick! In my opinion, one of the best kicks in Eurorack!
@smartassrecords2 ай бұрын
@@TheSoundConvergence you make it sound so good
@larsenmb3 ай бұрын
I love this. thank you!
@plutoflo913 ай бұрын
That BASS
@kierenmoore32363 ай бұрын
I’ve heard quite a bit about this particular filter module breaking and/or dying after a certain period of time? What’s going on there?! 🤔 Thanks!
@TheSoundConvergence3 ай бұрын
Yeah, let me paste this message directly from Doepfer: "The module is a copy of the filter used in the EDP Wasp synthesizer which "abuses" digital inverters (CD4069) as operational amplifiers. The disadvantage of this circuitry is that the inverters die now and then. The only solution would be to replace the inverters by standard operational amplifiers but then special character of the Wasp filter would be lost. It's impossible to predict if or when the CD4069 will die and of course we test each A-124 carefully before it leaves the factory. There are A-124 which work flawless since over 10 years, others become defective after weeks, months or years. Fortunately the CD4069 is a very inexpensive standard part (should be US$ 0.5 or less). The circuit is plugged into a socket and can be easily replaced by the customer if required." So it will break some day and can be replaced. I also know some producers preferring the broken Wasp sound to the functioning one (altough I have not heard it myself yet).
@TheSoundConvergence3 ай бұрын
Full video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmK8g6CChM-baac
@lockyp2043 ай бұрын
Nice 👍 thanks
@markbooth3 ай бұрын
Batsh1t crazy! I love helping promote tiny abstract channels for some well above average inspiration. Well done.
@TheSoundConvergence3 ай бұрын
Thank you! There's so much more interesting theory to cover in the future.
@caseyhunted3 ай бұрын
I picked up one of these at a good deal used when I was looking for an end of chain eq solution. Pretty quickly I realized it's overkill for that, and think I need something more set and forget. But this video has had me rethink immediately parting with it before putting it through it's paces in a other position in the rack. Good stuff. Thanks!
@TheSoundConvergence3 ай бұрын
Yeah i can totally understand that! It's definitely one of my least used modules due how specific the use cases are. But it ends up in every feedback loop I patch up, which makes it worthwhile for me.
@richarquis3 ай бұрын
Wasps? Bastards. I was enjoying a beer by the lake a couple of days ago. A wasp flew into the can without me seeing. When I took a sip, it stung me on the inside of my top lip. I put the can down, and saw it before it flew away, it was one of the big buggers, almost the size of the asian murder hornet, which are common where I live. Not a joke comment. It really happened. So yeah, screw wasps. That said, I am ordering some new Doepfer modules in a couple of weeks, I'll have a closer look at this too.
@Hessencemusic3 ай бұрын
Wow… excellent content. It’s a very interesting topic. Thank you!
@_Dav1K3 ай бұрын
Well produced comparison! I have all three of these modules in my rack. I own a Quadrax, Quadigy and the Zadar is a friends'. All three of these modulators are different. For excellent classic styled ADSR EGs, you cannot beat Quadigy. For a Buchla styled function generator, the Quadrax is amazing! The Zadar is something I am glad I didn't buy. I find the navigation of various vector shapes kinda bleh. But I did like your demo of using it as a 3osc; gonna have to try that one. However, I still believe one of, if not the best modulator in eurorack is the old Mutable Instruments Stages. Highly flexible, especially given you can expand it by chaining multiple modules. I have four chained in my system, and it is fucking awesome. 24 LFOs, 12 ARs, 6 ADSRs, 4 six-stage EGs, or one 24-stage step sequencer; and every possible combination of the afore-mentioned at the same time. The multiple Stages is close to what I would love to see as a smaller module. A multi-segment envelope generator, MSEG, similar to what is found in the Zebra2 or other u-He VSTs. Basically like a Zadar but you draw in the vector shape. Ideal.
@TheSoundConvergence3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment! Mutable Instruments was clearly in a different league when it comes to re-thinking and re-designing all kinds of standard synthesis functions. I also have a MI Stages, but sadly only one, so it didn't make it into the video.
@jessehardy73323 ай бұрын
Quadrax is the only one of these 3 modules I own, so I have an inherent bias. However, I want to mention a few things that folks might like to know about one of my desert island modules that the video didn’t seem to have time to get into: -Quadrax in LFO mode will go very well into audio rate and tracks 1v/oct. Combined with all the wave shapes available, you essentially have 4 powerful Wavetable oscillators on hand! However, tuning these oscillators is a well known shortcoming for Quadrax. The Rise knob controls oscillator frequency, and only the final quarter of the knob’s range covers the audio rate frequencies. Tuning can be difficult, as you imagine, but it’s not impossible. -Like any AD envelopes, mixing multiple envelopes can give you an ADSR shape. For example, make 2 Quadrax channels trigger with the same gate input. 1 channel is AD, the other is AHR. Feed both their outputs into say, the IntelliJel Quad VCA, mix and attenuate the signals to taste, and presto, ADSR envelope. Of course, using 2 channels for one envelope is a lot resource wise. But for folks like me that use simple AD envelopes most of the time, it works.
@PspiralifeTutorials25 күн бұрын
Great ADSR tip! Thanks! Got any more like that? haha.
@PspiralifeTutorials25 күн бұрын
Desert Island Module?? I havent heard that before haha. A common term used for feature packed modules that you would choose if you could only choose one..
@wirrwarr8083 ай бұрын
Great Video!
@MaxVanGinneken3 ай бұрын
Interesting opinion that Zadar doesn't work as well for large systems. To me it's the best MSEG generator out there. The only comparable module I'm aware of is Control Forge, which is much bigger, more expensive, and only does one modulation shape at a time.
@TheSoundConvergence3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! For highly complex envelopes, the Zadar is definitely king. For me, I found my composition workflow runs best with ADSR-type envelope modules that are fast to program. That being said, Zadar definitely offers functionality that is hard to come by with other modules!
@TheUlverstonian3 ай бұрын
Excellent review thanks. Another option for a space friendly quad envelope is the Make Noise Pons Asinorum. It also has an LFO option per channel and is super user friendly in a live setting as the navigation and LED colours make it easy even in the dark.
@TheSoundConvergence3 ай бұрын
Great suggestion! I didn't know about this quad envelope and now I'm impressed by how they got all 4 envelopes into 6HP!
@rayderrich3 ай бұрын
I found Zadar to fit my small rack very well and I like its shapes selection, but I have not used quad envelope generators enough to decide whether it is best for me. So far so good.
@Fluidstructure3 ай бұрын
I had Zadar for awhile, but found it too fussy to be fun….felt like I had to search a little too much for the right shape… right now am using Tangrams, both Verbos Env modules, Falistri, Comtour 1. But Ive been wanting something more….something snappy & eclectic. The Quadrax & Quadigy seem very interesting, but I wonder about lack of immediacy with Quadigy’s menus and button combos with Quadrax….
@gladstonedeluxe6223 ай бұрын
I’ve had quadrax for maybe 4 years now as my main EG. I also value immediacy a lot. Most of the time I have my mod matrix set to the same familiar settings, and it works well for me. I probably go into the mod matrix like once every few months. Maybe before a show or if there’s something specific I know i want to do.
@TheSoundConvergence3 ай бұрын
Agree on the Zadar! Its great for small systems, but once you have the space for more immediate envelopes, it loses its appeal. Like Gladstone says, the Quadrax stays immediate if you dont need to change CV assignments much. The Quadigy is not as immediate if you switch between screens or envelope 1 - 4 much. I normally fine-tune one envelope at a time for which it strikes a good balance between immediacy and features to tweak. If you are in need to change multiple values on multiple envelopes, it will take a bit more time.
@PspiralifeTutorials25 күн бұрын
I wonder how you rate the Falistri? I have had my eye on it and its been on top of my list for so long. Mainly due to it's ability to maintain cycle duration when changing the shape of the stages (unlike maths, contour 1, and most other FGs). What surprised you the most about falistri and what disappoints you most about it?
@TheSoundConvergence19 күн бұрын
Hi! Havent tested the Falistri yet! I think Frap Tools makes great modules and I owned some of their modules over the years (e.g. the USTA). However, if you only use your modular infrequently (which happens to me at times) I always end up forgetting what each module can do, due to their minimalistic visual design! I ended up selling most modules with hidden functions or confusing layouts (incl. Frap Tools) as a means to streamline my workflow. (which is no knock on the quality of Frap Tools modules)
@lockyp2044 ай бұрын
I like your flow diagrams and content. Great channel. Thanks