Which fingering uses sliding of the thumb on white keys? Do you mean sliding from one white key to the next with the thumb? Yeah changing fingering can be nasty. I noticed sometimes an old fingering comes back to haunt me out of nowhere while performing. Old habits die very hard.

@@pianomosaic The British Augener Edition had this fingering - it just happened to be the edition i started with.

@@pianodudeler I see. I believe the one I use is what most editions describe as Chopin's fingering but I don't know if that's true. I certainly find it the least impossible.

@@pianomosaic Yes your fingering is excellent - my teacher insisted on the 51 fing at end and in the downward run where LH was free it helped out the RH. He was finalist in 1936 Chopin competition but he generally let me choose my own fingering - it would have been wonderful to have the learning resources available now. (The only complete recording available here was the Cziffra) You probably know of IMSLP and the Alberto Jonas method/collection.

@@pianodudeler Actually I didn't know about the Alberto Jonas method. Thx I'll take a look.

Thanks! Yes I've improved the recording setup lately. Also placed it on a cushion at some point and that helped too.

Hey thanks! That's nice to read when the channel seems to be struggling.

You're welcome. But you should know that now after 6 years of use I've noticed a recurring problem with this instrument if you play it a lot: The sensors tend to start wearing out somehow (causing first only one note to measure the wrong speed so it plays far too loud for example) and then one has to replace them. It's a hassle taking it to be repaired. So if you play a lot (as in hours per day), unless they've addressed that issue, keep in mind that you might need to take it in for repair once in a while. And after the warranty runs out it becomes quite costly too. Besides that I still really like it though.

@@pianomosaic Thanks for that important update!

Hez thanks. I'm afraid I can't remember my fingerings anymore. But most of the time there isn't much choice with this piece. Lot's of chords.

Thanks I appreciate that!

Thanks! I hope it's useful.

There seems to be a "Learn Jeux d'eau in 40 Years" challenge materializing in the comments.

hey! how are u going with it? 😮

@@txyy9102 yo i'm still going! extremely slow progress but i can play 3 pages!

🤣 Excellent!

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Have you seen my video with practice tips on this piece? If not, I might think of something besides that. Just let me know.

@pianomosaic oh yes I did watch that video but I think my hand size is pretty small so reaching a 10th is quite uncomfortable, when I do the arpeggios my hand goes in a sweeping motion ended up hitting the lowest note weirdly loud😅

@@headmastercat1137 Well how far can you stretch? Because you don't need to be able to reach a 10th for this. It's a technique similar to Chopin's 10-9 or 25-1. Have you tried using a shared hands fingering?

@@pianomosaic thanks for the tips, I will try it sometimes🥰

Yes

Thanks for such an encouraging comment!

Yes that's particularly good for ear training.

Thanks!

I can't deny that.

Cool thanks for sharing. I hadn't heard that story. It seems insane with that piece of all. Especially because it's technically so awkward as well I can't imagine just being able to play it without practicing.

Yes harmony and rhythm in particular help. Hard to say which is more important.

Cool well let me know how it goes. Sure but I might not follow it.

I play the bottom two notes then jump onto the rest of the notes. Impossible to play it in one stroke.

@@fanach Yeah that's one of the difficulties in that section. I remember having to experiment quite a bit with various ways of changing before or after without cutting off the sound. Don't remember exactly what I did. Might also try some half-pedal.

I don't remember that happening in this piece but I've noticed in Scarbo there are notes that seem like they should be lower than the piano can usually go. And I've heard or read the idea that one could play them lower with the Bösendorfer extension. But failing that, play the lowest available notes. Down there, the notes are harder to distinguish from one another anyway. I suggest you just try it and see how it sounds. If you can't go lower then you don't have much choice anyway.

Oh boy that's really hard to say. It's also a very unusual first piece. But the first minute is probably the most approachable part. I'm sure it can be done but it probably will be very hard to get it to sound good. So the question really is how well do you want to be able to play it? If you just want to be able to muddle through it with no concern for accuracy or fluency, then you could probably learn it faster than one would expect. But if you have high aims for quality then - well I'll tell you when I've managed that.

Hey thanks for the kind and thoughtful comment. Yes it's a digital piano. Some of my recordings are on an old Ibach (Ravel's une barque for example) with 85 keys.