Just a warning on fingering when I first learned this it was with the sliding thumb on white keys. This is not the best fingering which uses slides from black keys - it is a pain to relearn the better fingering when you're 70 plus!
@pianomosaicАй бұрын
Which fingering uses sliding of the thumb on white keys? Do you mean sliding from one white key to the next with the thumb? Yeah changing fingering can be nasty. I noticed sometimes an old fingering comes back to haunt me out of nowhere while performing. Old habits die very hard.
@pianodudelerАй бұрын
@@pianomosaic The British Augener Edition had this fingering - it just happened to be the edition i started with.
@pianomosaicАй бұрын
@@pianodudeler I see. I believe the one I use is what most editions describe as Chopin's fingering but I don't know if that's true. I certainly find it the least impossible.
@pianodudelerАй бұрын
@@pianomosaic Yes your fingering is excellent - my teacher insisted on the 51 fing at end and in the downward run where LH was free it helped out the RH. He was finalist in 1936 Chopin competition but he generally let me choose my own fingering - it would have been wonderful to have the learning resources available now. (The only complete recording available here was the Cziffra) You probably know of IMSLP and the Alberto Jonas method/collection.
@pianomosaicАй бұрын
@@pianodudeler Actually I didn't know about the Alberto Jonas method. Thx I'll take a look.
@pianodudelerАй бұрын
Wonderfully helpful videos - your mictophone is picking up vibrations so perhaps isolate it from the piano - although I must say it certainly suits this piece.
@pianomosaicАй бұрын
Thanks! Yes I've improved the recording setup lately. Also placed it on a cushion at some point and that helped too.
@nicky6080Ай бұрын
very helpful ideas
@rhodesmusicofficialАй бұрын
im absolutely astonished by the quality and quantity of piano aid this channel delivers, thank you so much for posting
@pianomosaicАй бұрын
Hey thanks! That's nice to read when the channel seems to be struggling.
@samueltaylor99352 ай бұрын
This piece is a great reason why you should practice arpeggios everyday lol
@Scriabinfan5933 ай бұрын
Yeah this piece is beyond me for now.
@bobbyjoe723 ай бұрын
Thanks! It's nice to hear through your phone giving me a better idea than other demos played through top amps!
@pianomosaic3 ай бұрын
You're welcome. But you should know that now after 6 years of use I've noticed a recurring problem with this instrument if you play it a lot: The sensors tend to start wearing out somehow (causing first only one note to measure the wrong speed so it plays far too loud for example) and then one has to replace them. It's a hassle taking it to be repaired. So if you play a lot (as in hours per day), unless they've addressed that issue, keep in mind that you might need to take it in for repair once in a while. And after the warranty runs out it becomes quite costly too. Besides that I still really like it though.
@bobbyjoe723 ай бұрын
@@pianomosaic Thanks for that important update!
@kaczorpel13213 ай бұрын
Hej, piękne wykonanie! Czy masz może rozpisane palcowanie? Nie chciałbym spędzić godziny analizując klatka po klatce twojego ustawienia palców😅 Jakbyś wrzucił np w opis link do pliku byłoby wspaniale
@pianomosaic3 ай бұрын
Hez thanks. I'm afraid I can't remember my fingerings anymore. But most of the time there isn't much choice with this piece. Lot's of chords.
@neonwind3 ай бұрын
Beautiful, making practice into a fun game.
@lomro3 ай бұрын
Thanks Adrian, in addition to being good and masterfully performing this difficult study, you made it easier for me to understand some details of execution. Thank you again
@pianomosaic3 ай бұрын
Thanks I appreciate that!
@Zdrange034 ай бұрын
I bought the booklet 2 weeks ago, happy to see an accompanying video 😊
@pianomosaic4 ай бұрын
Thanks! I hope it's useful.
@aleksandarbrzic83514 ай бұрын
I would probably need 40 years only to decipher the right notes with all the signs used all over the place😳
@pianomosaic4 ай бұрын
There seems to be a "Learn Jeux d'eau in 40 Years" challenge materializing in the comments.
@jsamc4 ай бұрын
Who in the heck writes this stuff on the staves ??
@iobyreb-14124 ай бұрын
proud to say i have learned the first page! 😄 only 12 to go
@txyy91022 ай бұрын
hey! how are u going with it? 😮
@iobyreb-14122 ай бұрын
@@txyy9102 yo i'm still going! extremely slow progress but i can play 3 pages!
@ffelegal5 ай бұрын
I tried to sell my soul to play this piece, but the Devil said he doesn't do Ravel.
@pianomosaic5 ай бұрын
🤣 Excellent!
@BachRavelRyuichi5 ай бұрын
1:09
@BachRavelRyuichi5 ай бұрын
1:14
@BachRavelRyuichi5 ай бұрын
1:17
@pianomosaic5 ай бұрын
@@BachRavelRyuichi ?
@Diegocobos6 ай бұрын
I'll try some of your fingerings.
@balladin92007 ай бұрын
When this loaded without a thumbnail I was guessing it was a chess video
@headmastercat11378 ай бұрын
Hi, I've been struggling to play the first part smoothly because the arpeggios in the left hand when I play it just sounds abnormally medium-forte, especially the lowest note, when I hit that key it sounds pretty loud. Do you have any tips?
@pianomosaic8 ай бұрын
Have you seen my video with practice tips on this piece? If not, I might think of something besides that. Just let me know.
@headmastercat11378 ай бұрын
@pianomosaic oh yes I did watch that video but I think my hand size is pretty small so reaching a 10th is quite uncomfortable, when I do the arpeggios my hand goes in a sweeping motion ended up hitting the lowest note weirdly loud😅
@pianomosaic8 ай бұрын
@@headmastercat1137 Well how far can you stretch? Because you don't need to be able to reach a 10th for this. It's a technique similar to Chopin's 10-9 or 25-1. Have you tried using a shared hands fingering?
@headmastercat11378 ай бұрын
@@pianomosaic thanks for the tips, I will try it sometimes🥰
@ivanaraque8 ай бұрын
I’m not a pianist, but I found this video an extraordinary source of enlightenment in regards to Ravel’s exquisite piano writing, thanks. 🙏🏼
@kasukoi8 ай бұрын
Hi, im currently learning this piece and im having some trouble with speed of the tremolos in the right hand in any of the 3 big waves (especially the second). Do you have any tips or do i just practice a lot more? Thank you.
@EpicPianoArrangements9 ай бұрын
The only thing I would do is upgrade the camera you use for the in front shot, so that the framerate of both videos matches... but god damn this was a GREAT performance of this piece. I've only heard it once before, never tried playing it (don't have the sheet music), but will aim for it in the future after I'm done with my Concerto.
@zidanidane9 ай бұрын
i wonder, have you performed this in front of any audience?
@pianomosaic9 ай бұрын
Yes
@Littlesonofabi-tch10 ай бұрын
cuánto tiempo has estado tocando piano? tu técnica es formidable
@zidanidane10 ай бұрын
just so beautiful
@elishaba10 ай бұрын
Super
@HollowDeathful10 ай бұрын
Wow what a lovely channel I came across. You are a GREAT teacher
@pianomosaic10 ай бұрын
Thanks for such an encouraging comment!
@jordanpellegrino199811 ай бұрын
what I try to do in sight reading is to do visualization-only reading, trying to hear each voice. It helps me a lot and develops my ear enormously. Thanks for the recommandations
@pianomosaic11 ай бұрын
Yes that's particularly good for ear training.
@kampersmix11 ай бұрын
Excelente. Todo el contenido del canal es valiosísimo. Saludos!
@pianomosaic11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Lalulalala82411 ай бұрын
This is absolutely insane
@pianomosaic11 ай бұрын
I can't deny that.
@ericalapayre72211 ай бұрын
I remember this story about this pianist, I don't remember his name (Funcke?) who memorised Schumann's toccata before playing it flawless at the keyboard. Memorizing music has always been my biggest issue and be sure I'll follow closely your journey into the subject. Thanks.
@pianomosaic11 ай бұрын
Cool thanks for sharing. I hadn't heard that story. It seems insane with that piece of all. Especially because it's technically so awkward as well I can't imagine just being able to play it without practicing.
@vivolin652111 ай бұрын
This challenge makes me so glad I am a string player and have a lot less notes to read and memorize. Looking forward to following your challenge! When I do this sort of thing (much much easyer on the violin!) I concentrate on memorizing the harmonys first. That gives me a bit of security like a kind of map. Looking forward to watching how you go about this very much!
@pianomosaic11 ай бұрын
Yes harmony and rhythm in particular help. Hard to say which is more important.
@ucj542111 ай бұрын
良い演奏!!
@f52_yeevy11 ай бұрын
This is a really interesting idea, I've always appreciated your really smart analysis and practical experiments, and I'll make sure to follow this one as well
@stevenpietrusza694411 ай бұрын
cool challenge idea, i'll definitely try it. May i suggest a different hairstyle?
@pianomosaic11 ай бұрын
Cool well let me know how it goes. Sure but I might not follow it.
@ChristianJoannes Жыл бұрын
Godowski style ! Excellent . Left hand sonority is something special given the accents . Would love to hear you play the cadenza part of the Ravel’s concerto for LH . 👍👍
@Hlalp. Жыл бұрын
Great work!
@fanach Жыл бұрын
4;51 how do u play the left hand? the chord is so big
@pianomosaic Жыл бұрын
I play the bottom two notes then jump onto the rest of the notes. Impossible to play it in one stroke.
@pianomosaic Жыл бұрын
@@fanach Yeah that's one of the difficulties in that section. I remember having to experiment quite a bit with various ways of changing before or after without cutting off the sound. Don't remember exactly what I did. Might also try some half-pedal.
@androidkenobi Жыл бұрын
Hi! I noticed there's a note that's lower than what normal pianos can go (the measure after the 2nd big wave, ~ 4:30 ...not actually on screen, but after there)... Assuming the score is correct (i checked several and they all have it), and google tells me the first bosendorfer imperial (the one w extra bass notes) was built in 1909, and that Ravel composed miroirs around 1905/6... What's going on here?? Thank u for any input
@pianomosaic Жыл бұрын
I don't remember that happening in this piece but I've noticed in Scarbo there are notes that seem like they should be lower than the piano can usually go. And I've heard or read the idea that one could play them lower with the Bösendorfer extension. But failing that, play the lowest available notes. Down there, the notes are harder to distinguish from one another anyway. I suggest you just try it and see how it sounds. If you can't go lower then you don't have much choice anyway.
@JayTheLane Жыл бұрын
I cannot do this but you Sir are legendary 😎
@most_sane_piano_enthusiast Жыл бұрын
Very good rendition of this legendary piece. To be honest it deserves a greater name than just "Etude".
@user-vp1fy8rq6s Жыл бұрын
Pleeeeaase do reflets dans l’eau or poissons d’or
@calvinyoung5199 Жыл бұрын
if i was to start playing. which i have never touched a piano. how long would it take me to learn the first minute of the song. Hehehe I’m expecting a couple year long challenge but if i just practiced this part of that piece how long would it take?
@pianomosaic Жыл бұрын
Oh boy that's really hard to say. It's also a very unusual first piece. But the first minute is probably the most approachable part. I'm sure it can be done but it probably will be very hard to get it to sound good. So the question really is how well do you want to be able to play it? If you just want to be able to muddle through it with no concern for accuracy or fluency, then you could probably learn it faster than one would expect. But if you have high aims for quality then - well I'll tell you when I've managed that.
@elliottblum7925 Жыл бұрын
Amazing performamce!
@elliottblum7925 Жыл бұрын
Amazing and useful lesson. Maybe someday I'll play this
@ErlingHaalxnd Жыл бұрын
I've been listening to your interpretation for months and I never left a comment - Your interpretation definitely surpasses most interpretations I've heard, albeit played on a digital piano (assuming from sound quality) and that I've watched your videos on how to tackle this piece section by section, and can safely say this is in my top 2 if not my favourite interpretation of this piece. Bravo.
@pianomosaic Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind and thoughtful comment. Yes it's a digital piano. Some of my recordings are on an old Ibach (Ravel's une barque for example) with 85 keys.