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@fred20097
@fred20097 15 сағат бұрын
I wonder if it was the palantir that corrupted Saruman? And to be fair, he was a Maia as well as Sauron. His voice was persuasive and there was a chance he could've used the palantir to control Sauron. Rather, maybe it was a risk he decided to take while still pure-hearted, but one which failed. He might've even known Sauron as Malion - they were both students of Aule. So would he have become evil if he hadn't used the palantir? Is Sauron solely to blame for his fall? Just a few conjectures. Also, I find it ironic that Tolkien emphasises the importance of compassion in his writing, but he shows none for orcs - who are corrupted through no fault of their own, yet have no chance of salvation - or Gollum, who ends up boiled alive in mt doom. Could not Tolkien have created one kind orc? Or couldn't he have saved Gollum, so that the ring went into the molten lava, but not Gollum? Both of these seem cruel to me. Another point, I'm not sure how a study from some US university is relevant to Tolkien's world. If it's the one I'm thinking about, it was unethical and it was poorly conducted. Lastly, Faramir also was another hero in that he resisted taking the ring and spared Gollum's life when Gollum sneaked his way into their secret headquarters, the pool. I don't understand why Peter Jackson had the soldiers beat up Gollum in the movie. The character of Faramir was meant to be good and noble.
@sakemp3480
@sakemp3480 20 сағат бұрын
@victoriakidd-cromis1124 He isn't a High King. He has to follow his liege. He'd be a commander. And all the elves were leaving, so he left with Elrond. And even with his power boost, he could not stand against Sauron and win
@cassaundramariac9075
@cassaundramariac9075 Күн бұрын
Except for the same music repeating on every video, these are really good.
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 21 сағат бұрын
Its a good free to use song
@Svensk7119
@Svensk7119 Күн бұрын
Not Sir-ith. Kir-ith, I believe.
@fred20097
@fred20097 Күн бұрын
If Glorfindel was so powerful, why didn't he rid Moria of Durin's Bane? And why didn't he clear Cirus Ungol of Shelob? And why didn't he go to Minas Tirith to help against the nazgul there? After all, Glorfindel wasn't a man either, he was an elf.
@sakemp3480
@sakemp3480 Күн бұрын
@fred20097 because 1 the elves were leaving and 2 he wasn't trying to die again... he got a power boost but he still isn't a maiar. Everyone who fought a Balrog died. And it wasn't for the elves to help Gondor to fight while ushering in the dominion of man with the battle of Minas Tirith. There was 3 elves for that. And if he went at Shelob who pathway was hidden, he might as well went at Sauron.... where he'd of lost.
@dspencer1969
@dspencer1969 Күн бұрын
@@sakemp3480 We saw the White Council deal with the ringwraiths in Dol Guldur, if they ran in a panic from just the presence of Glorfindel - I'm not so sure Sauron coulda survived that fight-not that Glorfindel would have walked away unscathed. Maybe his mission was much like the Ishtari, to help and inspire elves, dwarves and man stand against the darkness?
@sakemp3480
@sakemp3480 Күн бұрын
@dspencer1969 he scared the the Angmar King and Glorfindel had a vision where he said no man will kill the Angmar King in the books during the late 2nd or early 3rd age. And if you're saying we saw, then let's be frank, the movies aren't the books and changed things and added to it. It was Saruman who bossed up on Sauron in Dol Guldur. Gandalf stated so in the books. Glorfindel wasn't about to beat Sauron... he'd would have did better than Galadriel though.
@dspencer1969
@dspencer1969 21 сағат бұрын
@@sakemp3480 ashamed to admit it but no, I haven't read the books and I need to fix that. Where should I start? I vaguely remember reading LOTR in High School but that was well over 40 yrs ago.
@sakemp3480
@sakemp3480 20 сағат бұрын
@@dspencer1969 read the Simarillion. That will give you all the info you need.
@XGoenji
@XGoenji Күн бұрын
It's funny to think that he was only revived because perhaps his death was an unfinished story that perhaps was never actually used. Good video!
@victoriakidd-cromis1124
@victoriakidd-cromis1124 Күн бұрын
Did Glorfindel leave middle-earth when Gandalf, Elrond, & Galadriel did? Was he with Elrond & Gilgalad during the battle with Sauron? Considering his previous behavior I find it hard to believe he'd stay safe in Rivendell while the rest of them were fighting Sauron when he had single-handedly fought a balrog of Morgoth and won and so earned reincarnation. I got Glorfindel and Gilgalad mixed up during an earlier episode but it seems to me that Glorfindel should hae been the one to lead the elves against Sauron becasue he had greater power than any of the others.
@mebiysyt8331
@mebiysyt8331 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, there is one problem, the lightsabers do not give the power of force to the wielder, regardless of who they are, only the ones, who already have a connection to force can use the lightsaber to its full potential, and Melkor definitely could not have a connection to force, because he was from another universe, with different structure and laws of nature, which means, that it would just be a sword, that cuts anything So it would not be suitable for a use such as magnifying the existant abilities or especially, no world size creepy radio to seed hopelessness and despair into the hearts of men
@fred20097
@fred20097 2 күн бұрын
The shame wasn't in breaking the oath, but in taking it. Feanor and his sons were basically mass murderers. As for what I would've done, that's a difficult question. Breaking an oath was so much more sinful during the period and culture that Tolkien's world is based on. Look at what happened to the people who broke their oath to isildur - they became the army of the dead. You just never broke an oath full stop. Most people today don't understand that. The short of it is that you should never make promises you can't keep lol
@skepticalsmurf
@skepticalsmurf 2 күн бұрын
what if Rivendell had an Special Ops Elf Tactical Weapons Unit 😉
@seanmiller5460
@seanmiller5460 2 күн бұрын
What if Gondor had nuclear capabilities?
@skepticalsmurf
@skepticalsmurf 2 күн бұрын
🤣
@gamesmore6583
@gamesmore6583 2 күн бұрын
Darth Melkor?
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard 2 күн бұрын
And then, one day, came a figure clad in the most obsidian of black armor, the sound of his breathing bringing fear to all. He stood before the Dark Lord Morgoth, and spakest thus in a deep, cold, and fear-inducing voice: "I believe you have something that belongs to ME.".
@victoriakidd-cromis1124
@victoriakidd-cromis1124 2 күн бұрын
Isn't Gil-galad the elf who killed a balrog but died doing that and was reincernated?
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 2 күн бұрын
this one is Glorfindel
@LadyAlaina42-c3e
@LadyAlaina42-c3e 3 күн бұрын
Enjoyed your analysis of the story. Because of my Christian upbringing I would never have taken the vow but this story of the evil of Feanor is of course an object lesson.
@trevhib
@trevhib 3 күн бұрын
Did I miss the part where the ring resides on Sauron's finger in Numenor before his downfall and his spirit bearing it back to middle earth when Numenor sank?
@sarawr30
@sarawr30 3 күн бұрын
I'm disappointed by the amount of AI you are using. There is such a difference in the writing of the body of narration and the ending, it makes me think you're using chat gpt or the like to write your stories for you as well. AI images, voice AND writing? It's depressing
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 3 күн бұрын
Hi my friend, I'm not going to lie to you, all the videos are produced with elements generated by AI...Sometimes they come out better, sometimes they get a little messy. Maintaining an image standard is not always easy.
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 3 күн бұрын
I hope you understand...I really like Tolkien's universe, and this channel is a way of trying to bring some of his content to new and old fans. But it has also helped me keep up with the household bills.
@redspec01
@redspec01 3 күн бұрын
Honestly, I prefer the AI art. Having a human double check the writing might help with the repetitiveness, but the AI narrators are getting good. Overall I wish I could learn how to use AI better for art and research myself. Where does one learn such things?
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 3 күн бұрын
@@redspec01 I've learned by testing. There is some good free image generators that you can try. Like Leonardo.Ai or even the BING copylot. It's a bit hard to keep the same character more than once, but if you describe always in the same way, you can reach at least a close characters
@redspec01
@redspec01 3 күн бұрын
@@TalesOfTheRing wow! I shall check those out! I want to use them to test my color schemes for wargaming.
@Dahak6666
@Dahak6666 3 күн бұрын
This could fall into a what if scenario but what would happen if ungoliant had eaten the silmarils?
@skepticalsmurf
@skepticalsmurf 3 күн бұрын
that’s kinda a disturbing image,homie was a playa with the elf ladies 😉
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 3 күн бұрын
hahaha, Fëanor went to a such good party this days
@dombelardo4909
@dombelardo4909 3 күн бұрын
your a i is tallking to fast to get the stories over completed in the silmarillion there is to much onformation to gloss over it slow down and make part 1 and part 2 and part three GET ME
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 3 күн бұрын
I can do it, thanks for ur suggestion friendo
@skepticalsmurf
@skepticalsmurf 4 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your content but you MUST STOP repeating yourself,it’s annoying 😬
@devinlambourn
@devinlambourn 3 күн бұрын
It ai
@XGoenji
@XGoenji 4 күн бұрын
maybe not the content I expected, but the content I needed... I loved the illustrations
@MoonsDarkSounds
@MoonsDarkSounds 4 күн бұрын
This is actually so creative😮😮
@MoonsDarkSounds
@MoonsDarkSounds 4 күн бұрын
Loved this diferent presentation
@stephaniechristensen6018
@stephaniechristensen6018 5 күн бұрын
I don't think Elrond left Middle Earth hopeless. I think he, Arwen, and Aragorn (not to mention Legolas and countless others sundered from loved ones by the divide between mortals and elves) held out hope and trusted that even if they would be separated until the ending of the world, they would be reunited in a future beyond the circles of the world. A higher power like Eru Iluvatar could not design things otherwise and still be benevolent and worthy of the power he had.
@kathryncainmadsen5850
@kathryncainmadsen5850 5 күн бұрын
Losing his brother gave him compassion and wisdom. He did not have any of the issues you made up at the end.
@kathryncainmadsen5850
@kathryncainmadsen5850 5 күн бұрын
Helpful video. Sounds like AI though. BTWxFrodo did not carry the ring “unwittingly.”
@MONSTER0GRENDEL
@MONSTER0GRENDEL 5 күн бұрын
But a good overview of Elrond's life & efforts.
@MONSTER0GRENDEL
@MONSTER0GRENDEL 5 күн бұрын
Círdan .. not pronounced like Sirdan ... but Kirdan.
@AliceGrace1267
@AliceGrace1267 5 күн бұрын
So Celebrian
@deadman0315
@deadman0315 5 күн бұрын
It's an AI voice. It's not gunna pronounce words correctly
@MONSTER0GRENDEL
@MONSTER0GRENDEL 5 күн бұрын
@@deadman0315 ah ... good insight
@Edward-nf4nc
@Edward-nf4nc 5 күн бұрын
I see him as we did at beginning of the film, The Fellowship of the Ring. However, Gollum apparently saw Sauron in person, even saying he still lacked a finger!
@marcharley6465
@marcharley6465 5 күн бұрын
This is very good but could be improved by less repetition. For example, we don't really need to hear the squirrel story three times or ponder the fate of the entwives twice.
@Nick-zp3ub
@Nick-zp3ub 5 күн бұрын
Turin's story would have made an amazing anime movie. In David Day's Tolkien Bestiary he's even wearing samurai inspired armor
@NinjaKick
@NinjaKick 6 күн бұрын
I like your videos. On the road to 5k
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
let's do it my friend!
@XGoenji
@XGoenji 6 күн бұрын
Great video
@XGoenji
@XGoenji 6 күн бұрын
Hope you reach 5k subs soon
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
Thanks friend!!
@angusmacrae2368
@angusmacrae2368 7 күн бұрын
Great vid
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
thanks my friend!
@priotesecosmin5923
@priotesecosmin5923 7 күн бұрын
You managed to spell Túrin correctly but didn't manage to spell *Turambar* the right way as well, eh? Freaking stupid AI videos.
@toabjj
@toabjj 7 күн бұрын
I like this, the vibe of the video is awesome, but the script is very repetitive. You say the same thing a bunch of times with slightly different words.
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
hank you my friend. In the newer videos I tried to improve this issue of repetitions, I hope you like them.
@Fuhrmehh
@Fuhrmehh 7 күн бұрын
We need more #Shadowofwar #Shadowofmordor games with more characters like this
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
I love this game!
@heretic5579
@heretic5579 5 күн бұрын
Completely underrated games.
@fred20097
@fred20097 8 күн бұрын
My theory is that overall, Turin never was cursed. After all, he was lucky in so many ways, like getting to live with elves or slaying Glaurung or being a great warrior from a noble house or never ending up in Angband or not dying from plague or not being the one who got hit on the head in the gorge. And we all have our bad patches. But that's just my opinion. If he'd really been cursed, he would've perhaps grown 2 noses or turned into an onion every week on Thursdays - that sort of thing. Lol clearly Morgoth didn't have much imagination. And as for Nargothrod, the elves didn't have to listen to him when it came to building that bridge. And why did he wait until Glaurung suggested it to him to go and find Morwen and Nianor?
@RonnieLeeDuck
@RonnieLeeDuck 6 күн бұрын
I reread the Silmarillion recently. Tolkien made Turin into a highly driven, great character. But Tolkien tests my limits with Turin. It's one thing to make Turin have a level of arrogance and stubbornness that turns tragic. But to a degree Turin comes off as a outright jerk and an @hole. The whole story comes close to collapsing because I start not to have any sympathy with him or those who associate with him. I mean, he is a great warrior. But he has a bad attitude that makes him not worth the trouble. That is not tragic.
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
That's a really interesting take! I love how you highlighted Turin's "lucky" moments-he did have some incredible achievements despite everything. Slaying Glaurung alone is no small feat! And you're right, Morgoth's curse wasn't exactly creative when it came to Turin’s physical form-no extra noses or onion transformations in sight, haha. But Turin's tragedy always felt more tied to his choices and circumstances rather than just the curse itself, which makes him such a complex character. And yes, the bridge in Nargothrond... a perfect example of how sometimes even the wisest can get caught up in bad decisions. You’ve definitely given me something to think about. Why did Turin wait so long to search for Morwen and Nienor? That’s a great point! Maybe part of him was still caught between pride and guilt. Would love to hear more of your thoughts! 😊
@NickyJones-m3d
@NickyJones-m3d 9 күн бұрын
Cool video. Manwe best understands Iluvatars vision so I assume they were acting how they were supposed to have acted in the greater vision of iluvatar
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
Thanks my friend. I completely agree
@DavidWilliams-f4l
@DavidWilliams-f4l 9 күн бұрын
I recon he was there when Bilbo and the Dwarves came.
@heysoos666
@heysoos666 10 күн бұрын
Yeah. Just .. stop. Get this material to Robert from indeepgeek. This AI shit fucking sucks.
@cimmeriabastardsword
@cimmeriabastardsword 10 күн бұрын
Great content, much better and entertaining than Amazon's rings of woke crap!
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
haha thanks
@nathanwitt5892
@nathanwitt5892 10 күн бұрын
He wasn’t reluctant.
@XGoenji
@XGoenji 11 күн бұрын
Húrin Thalion’s story is absolutely gripping-his defiance against Morgoth, the unimaginable torment he endured, and the way his every action seemed to ripple through Middle-earth, bringing both hope and tragedy. It makes you wonder, doesn’t it? If Morgoth’s curse twisted even the noblest of Húrin’s intentions, was there ever a moment where he truly had control over his fate, or was he always bound to be a pawn in the Dark Lord’s grand design?
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
Húrin's story is one of the most tragic and compelling in all of Tolkien's works, no doubt! His defiance against Morgoth-"You are not the Lord of Men, and shall not be!"-still gives me chills every time. That moment alone shows how strong and unbreakable his spirit was, even in the face of the Dark Lord's power.
@thecoopaloop99
@thecoopaloop99 11 күн бұрын
Good content
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
thanks friendo
@Aure-entuluva
@Aure-entuluva 11 күн бұрын
It’s hard to listen to AI mispronounce names, battles and quotes.
@Reddogone85
@Reddogone85 11 күн бұрын
I would seek another path.
@Mary-mi2hi
@Mary-mi2hi 11 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed your version of the story. It was straightforward and well narrated.😊
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!
@SimonAppleton
@SimonAppleton 12 күн бұрын
Very well told and condensed. Lots of atmospheric content! Motivating. Thanks
@TalesOfTheRing
@TalesOfTheRing 6 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!