Who is Stephen Wolfram?
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The knowledge hypergraph
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How to tell if space is curved
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Peer review is suffocating science
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How to knit the universe
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What’s beyond the universe?
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@thegeeeeeeeeee
@thegeeeeeeeeee Күн бұрын
The Jacob Collier of mathematics*
@fnw65
@fnw65 2 күн бұрын
In the history of physics, aether theories (also known as ether theories) propose the existence of a medium, a space-filling substance or field as a transmission medium for the propagation of electromagnetic or gravitational forces. Since the development of special relativity, theories using a substantial aether fell out of use in modern physics, and are now replaced by more abstract models.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 2 күн бұрын
Yes, absolutely. I wouldn't describe the Wolfram model as an ether theory, but for sure, the hypergraph looks very much like an absolute, motionless medium. I have yet to work out the consequences of this, but perhaps it means the ether is set to make a comeback!
@madmaxfzz
@madmaxfzz 3 күн бұрын
Let's see... lasers? Gravitational wave detectors? Modern intetgrated circuits? etc?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
Right, yes, there have been plenty of advances in the last 50 years, but not so much when it comes to fundamental theoretical physics. Lasers have improved enormously over the years, but they were first conceived in 1917 and built in 1960. Gravitational waves, similarly, first conceived, in their general relativistic incarnation, in 1916; not observed until 2015, but that's an advance in experimental physics, not fundamental theoretical physics. Integrated circuits, again, have improved exponentially over the years, but they were first built in 1958 and conceived long before. It's not that I don't appreciate the leaps forward in experimental physics, applied physics and technology in the last 50 years - these leaps forward have been extraordinary - I'm just lamenting that there has been so little progress in fundamental theoretical physics. And I think that may be about to change.
@haydermabood
@haydermabood 3 күн бұрын
I would love to see this channel move beyond only the Wolfram project, and fulfill its name "The Last Theory"! ... one very interesting aspect that it would also cover and analyze, which is also related to the Wolfram project, is the concept of the "atoms of space", AKA the "Aether", a concept that has a lot of history that predates both Einstein's relativity and quantum physics.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Hayder. We'll see how these computational models evolve, and yes, depending on where they go, I can see a time when I'll expand the scope of this channel. I feel I've barely scratched the surface of the Wolfram model, though, so I'll keep digging deeper for now. Thanks for following!
@robertlevy2420
@robertlevy2420 4 күн бұрын
Maybe, all that we have discovered so far has been low hanging fruit!
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
Right, yes, that's a good observation, thanks Robert. One think that strikes me, though, looking at the history of science, is that it _always_ looks like we've discovered the low-hanging fruit, and everything from here on in is going to be hard. In Newton's time, Aristotle had already picked all the low-hanging fruit, and everything to come looked hard, because it required calculus. In Einstein's time, Newton had already picked all the low-hanging fruit, and everything to come looked hard, because it involved curved space-time and quantization. It's kind of inevitable that it always looks this way: past discoveries look easy, because we understand them, and future discoveries look hard, because, by definition, we don't understand them yet. I'm optimistic that there'll be a time in future when the kind of computational models we're beginning to explore today will look like low-hanging fruit, too. Thanks for the comment!
@Killer_Kovacs
@Killer_Kovacs 6 күн бұрын
At a small enough scale there wouldn't be room enough for information, sort of the opposite problem of a black hole. But i dont see anything that tips the scale on the question of discreteness.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
Could you say more about what you mean by "there wouldn't be room enough for information"?
@Killer_Kovacs
@Killer_Kovacs 3 күн бұрын
​​@@lasttheory i assume that there is space below plank length, no matter how insignificant in proportion. At the right scale the information would be end to end like binary but the parallel lines in time space would continue below the binary.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
@@Killer_Kovacs Right, yes, the Wolfram model does assume that space has a structure below the Planck length. It does have a different idea of time than yours, though, where the different possible applications of the rules allow for multiple different paths through the multiway graph. It's a _bit_ complicated, but I'm hoping to get more videos out on this topic soon. Thanks for watching!
@russreadsbooks
@russreadsbooks 6 күн бұрын
Great video! I love your chanel and have watched all your videos
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Russell! Much more to come...
@bernie2700
@bernie2700 7 күн бұрын
But isn't it a problem that something completely immaterial and theoretical like a computation and resulting graphs are supposed to result in something tangible, measurable. How can a node in a graph have mass? Not getting my head around that 😆
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
Good questions, thanks Bernie. To start with your last question, mass is modelled in the hypergraph as fluxes of edges through surfaces. The technicalities here aren't easy (I'll do a video about them soon!) but the fundamental point is that mass isn't a _property_ of nodes and edges, it _arises_ from nodes and edges. The hypergraph is all there is. And so to your first, more difficult question, as to how things that appear to us to be material, like mass, can arise from something that seems so abstract, the hypergraph. The crucial thing here is to recognize that we, too, are formed of the nodes and edges of the hypergraph. Our perception of mass comes from parts of the hypergraph external to us - such as the mass of a stone - affecting the parts of the hypergraph internal to us - our brains. And since we know that one part of the hypergraph can affect another, there's really no mystery there. We just have to remember that we are _part of_ the universe - _part of_ the hypergraph - not separate or different from it. These are the crucial questions, thanks for asking!
@VideoGameWizardry
@VideoGameWizardry 7 күн бұрын
Is this sort of the same way we can measure a computationally irreducible algorithm and make general statements about its results, like "It is complex" or "It is sort of random but shows pattern x"? Like of course we can't reproduce or predict the exact results of the computationally irreducible algorithm but we can sort of expect or be unsurprised by future general patterns within its next few steps?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
Right, yes, coarse-graining is kinda like that. The clearest example of coarse-graining I know is the behaviour of molecules of water. As you say, we can't predict the next few steps on a microscopic level: in the case of water, the precise positions of those molecules. But we _can_ predict what you call patterns: in the case of water, its incompressibility, its macroscopic flows, etc. Thanks for the question!
@mattmiller4917
@mattmiller4917 8 күн бұрын
For the latter part of his career, it was more like John Von Neumann and the art of being where the U. S. military wanted him to be. Figuring our the exact height from which to detonate an atomic bomb over a country already effectively beaten, with the explicit intention of killing the most people? John Von Neumann was there. Invention of AI without the slightest concern for how it could affect the future of humanity? John Von Neumann was there. The online hagiography for this guy is intense, and science fans could really use more nuanced attention to his faults. I guess nuance is too much to expect on YT.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
You're right, Matt, that von Neumann was deeply embedded in the US military, from the days of the Manhattan Project onwards. _Someone_ had to decide the detonation altitude of the bomb, and the reality is that whoever it was, they were going to decide it to _maximize_ impact (if they'd wanted to _minimize_ impact they'd never have dropped the bomb). I agree that we shouldn't underplay this side of von Neumann's life, and that wasn't my intention here. He was a complex person, and in this video I focused on one aspect of his career. For a fuller, and fictionalized (though no less truthful) account of his life, I'd recommend to anyone Benjamín Labatut's extraordinary book _The MANIAC._ Thanks for taking the time to comment here.
@mattmiller4917
@mattmiller4917 3 күн бұрын
@@lasttheory Yes, The MANIAC is excellent, I agree. You are also right that someone of course would get the assignment at Trinity, but that doesn't obviate that they chose Von Neumann. They did so for a reason after careful study, just like they chose Oppenheimer for a reason. They knew he wouldn't let any moral compunctions get in the way of the U.S. military's atomic flex--that he would be a helpful tool. Since you read that book, you also know how he treated his family, his wife's miscarriage after the garage door incident--his profound selfishness and emotional myopia. Why is material in The MANIAC, which is based on fact, absent from the other biographical portrayals, including every one I've seen on YT? Von Neumann needs less uncritical hero worship and more attention to the ramifications of his decisions.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 3 күн бұрын
@@mattmiller4917 Ah, right, I'm glad to come across another reader of The MANIAC. And yes, I hear you, we don't tend to hear so much about the darker side of von Neumann's character, or that of many others who have made such important contributions to science and technology. There's a common story of hubris to be told here. Anyway, thanks for the pushback.
@mattmiller4917
@mattmiller4917 3 күн бұрын
@@lasttheory I'm hardly an expert on YT content, but might The Dark Side of Von Neumann make for an effective, attention-grabbing topic? Best wishes for success with your channel.
@Ph4n_t0m
@Ph4n_t0m 9 күн бұрын
My question: what evaluation rule do your illustrations go by? By that I mean, when the initial condition (the part on the left of the transformation) is met by any number of already existing edges, by what criteria do you decide to apply the rule to _this_ edge rather than _that_ edge? Or further still, what inhibity you from applying it to all available candidates simultaneously and only considering that 'step' as completed once it has been applied to all available candidates? Your animations only ever evaluate a single edge at a time, and so it appears that every 'generation' is a 'tick of the clock'... what if a 'tick of the clock' only completes when all candidate edges have been subjected to the rule in question? Sorry, it seems a bit confused and it's not easy to frame with words... I hope you understand and can take a stab at answering. So far it seems to me that animating it one edge at a 'time' is no so much 'methodical' as it is utterly arbitrary... but then again, I haven't tried it myself (my coding skills are far too inferior to create the tool necessary to experiment myself). Thank you for this series, by the way. I subbed and am definitely sticking around for more!
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 9 күн бұрын
This is a really good question, thanks. For the animations in this video, where the rule can be applied in many different places, I simply choose one at random. As you rightly point out, this is kinda arbitrary! But it turns out that applying the rule in every possible place has its problems. Sometimes, you can apply the rule to one set of edges, or to another set of edges, but not to both, because the two sets of edges overlap, and applying it to one set destroys the match, so you can't then apply it to the other set. So you still have to choose. I go into this issue in detail in my video _Where to apply Wolfram’s rules?_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYiQn6Vtms2Joq8 and the follow-up video _What is the multiway graph in Wolfram Physics?_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5_GdnVsnpehi7s The approach I suggest in these videos is to _avoid_ choosing between the possible matches. This approach leads to the multiway graph, which is crucial to understanding Wolfram Physics. Hope that helps, thanks again for the question!
@DIPsuicide
@DIPsuicide 14 күн бұрын
This means that Asimov's Psychohistory is possible.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 14 күн бұрын
Yes, it's all about statistics. Though given the difficulty of merely deriving General Relativity from the hypergraph, predicting human behaviour might take a while... Thanks for the comment!
@rbettsx
@rbettsx 14 күн бұрын
I've got a 1:1 scale map in my knapsack.. but I haven't yet found the occasion to unfold it...
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 14 күн бұрын
Wait... no... dooooon't!!!!!
@zg9823
@zg9823 15 күн бұрын
Since the 20yr disclosure and been extended youd think the studies of the technology being steered into frequency's of the operating peramiters of the human body and mind. One would think thered be a decent dollop of information regarding this disclosure but nope the disclosure term isnt disclosure at all but the holding of information. Science is no longer science and knolage become stagnant for our next generation is nolonger furthering discovery using previously descovered truths. Science seems to engeered its own platoe and is contently stationary....
@Jacob-Vivimord
@Jacob-Vivimord 16 күн бұрын
The problem, I feel, is that physicists tend to misuse the word "universe". The universe is all that there is. It makes little sense to think of the UNIVERSE as discrete. Now, spacetime on the other hand... THAT seems to be what Wolfram is actually talking about.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 16 күн бұрын
Thanks Jacob. Yes, that word, universe, is often misused. The way I would put it precisely is this: Wolfram Physics models space, time, matter and everything else in the universe as a discrete hypergraph. Which means, to answer the question in the title of my video, that space is discrete, as is time, as is matter, as is everything else in the universe.
@rbettsx
@rbettsx 16 күн бұрын
The deepest characteristics of the observed universe are its apparent laws of conservation, and the associated symmetries. The interactions between patterns in cellular automata illustrated here show no such conservation. A more interesting question might be: 'What is conserved, in Wolfram's universe?'. Another question is begged, by this presentation.. 'What is a particle, in the universe of consensus physics?' That's not a given. 'Particle' may well turn out to be a term of convenience for a localized consequence of the interaction between 'measuring' and 'measured' fields.. they may not pre-exist the interaction at all.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 16 күн бұрын
These are good questions, thanks Robin. I should emphasize that the Game of Life simulations I show here are merely _suggestive_ of how particles might work in the Wolfram model. I'm certainly not suggesting that the automata in the Game of Life exhibit any of the laws of physics you mention, such as conservation of mass/energy. No one has found anything resembling a particle in the Wolfram model yet. That doesn't stop the model from having well-defined notions of mass/energy, though. And we can certainly speculate as to how particles _might_ arise in the Wolfram model, as Jonathan Gorard does in my conversation with him about toy models of particles: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJS9k35vd9KLl5I I agree with you that we're not even clear as to what a particle is in existing theories of physics. It does seem like as if discrete bundles of mass/energy do exist, at least at the moment of emission or absorbtion: it's difficult to explain Brownian motion, the photoelectric effect or bubble chambers any other way. But your're right, we should be open to explanations other than persistent bundles of mass/energy propagating through space.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 17 күн бұрын
What do the Twistors of Roger Penrose and the Hopf Fibrations of Eric Weinstein and the "Belt Trick" of Paul Dirac have in common? In Spinors it takes two complete turns to get down the "rabbit hole" (Alpha Funnel 3D--->4D) to produce one twist cycle (1 Quantum unit). Can both Matter and Energy be described as "Quanta" of Spatial Curvature? (A string is revealed to be a twisted cord when viewed up close.) Mass= 1/Length, with each twist cycle of the 4D Hypertube proportional to Planck’s Constant. In this model Alpha equals the compactification ratio within the twistor cone, which is approximately 1/137. 1= Hypertubule diameter at 4D interface 137= Cone’s larger end diameter at 3D interface where the photons are absorbed or emitted. The 4D twisted Hypertubule gets longer or shorter as twisting or untwisting occurs. (720 degrees per twist cycle.) If quarks have not been isolated and gluons have not been isolated, how do we know they are not parts of the same thing? The tentacles of an octopus and the body of an octopus are parts of the same creature. Is there an alternative interpretation of "Asymptotic Freedom"? What if Quarks are actually made up of twisted tubes which become physically entangled with two other twisted tubes to produce a proton? Instead of the Strong Force being mediated by the constant exchange of gluons, it would be mediated by the physical entanglement of these twisted tubes. When only two twisted tubules are entangled, a meson is produced which is unstable and rapidly unwinds (decays) into something else. A proton would be analogous to three twisted rubber bands becoming entangled and the "Quarks" would be the places where the tubes are tangled together. The behavior would be the same as rubber balls (representing the Quarks) connected with twisted rubber bands being separated from each other or placed closer together producing the exact same phenomenon as "Asymptotic Freedom" in protons and neutrons. The force would become greater as the balls are separated, but the force would become less if the balls were placed closer together. Therefore, the gluon is a synthetic particle (zero mass, zero charge) invented to explain the Strong Force.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 17 күн бұрын
There's a lot here! But yes, I think you're pulling on one of the same threads as Wolfram Physics: mass/energy is captured in the twists and turns of the spatial hypergraph, and particles are persistent tangles that propagate through the hypergraph. Your idea that we can model forces between inseparable quarks as, effectively, a single complex particle fits into the framework, too. There's a long way to go before we identify even a single photon in the hypergraph, but it's a promising idea. Thanks for the expansive comment!
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 17 күн бұрын
@@lasttheory Thank you for the kind response. They are very rare these days.
@duckbillplatypus
@duckbillplatypus 19 күн бұрын
I used to spend hours playing with the Golly app. I always thought he was on to something. Crabs, butterflies, and even faces took shape countless times. How can it not have something to do with convergent evolution?
@ivonmorales2654
@ivonmorales2654 21 күн бұрын
The most powerful and amazing visions of modern commology are Wolfram's formalism and Donald Hoffman's theory of consciousness... the next 200 years will be about these two revolutionary concepts...
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 21 күн бұрын
I hope you're right, Ivon, about Wolfram, at least (I'm less familiar with Donald Hoffman's theory of consciousness). Thanks for watching!
@louvanveen4115
@louvanveen4115 22 күн бұрын
Nice overview. I think you're right. I do watch alot of stuff that SW is getting out in perticular the livestreams give an impression on how open the employees are to him. Results and usability are key for SW and rightly so I would claim. I have the impression that he's more interested in "claiming" his ideas then really working them out in detail in papers. Working all out in detail will also cost alot of time.. There are so many people that are arrogant or full of themselves etc which I normally really ignore. We indeed should focus on what he claims and decide on it's usefullnes. That SW does not mention the names of the people doing the hard work is I would claim self-destructive and plain stupid and unneccesary. If he would put Max and Jonathan more in a spotlight he could get way more energy (and succes) out of the team. I do think he really thinks it's unimportant. It must be his experiences from the past whispering this in his ear?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 22 күн бұрын
Yes, you summarize it well. Thanks for the considered response!
@przeciag
@przeciag 23 күн бұрын
progress isn't redoing basic laws, jesus christ, you are posting this high definition, phonefilmed video through fast internet connection, doesn't that seem odd for you that it wasn't there 20 years ago?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 23 күн бұрын
Yes, absolutely, we've made extraordinary progress in computation and telecommunications over the last 50 years. But science and technology are different things: progress in phone, camera and fibre optic technologies isn't progress in fundamental theoretical physics. Can't we have _both?_
@przeciag
@przeciag 23 күн бұрын
@@lasttheory Research here and there is still in motion, but in the video, you seem to take into account only fundamental research, when both experimental and theoretical physics achieved enormous successes in applied research, experimental techniques, models, numerics, and so on. My main issue lies in that the field of physics shouldn't be reduced to only big theories and foundations. Adding to that I strongly disagree that there is a difference between science and technology, one requires another and progress in both is driven by the same people doing the same things, often via the same institutions.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 23 күн бұрын
@@przeciag Yes, you're right, I have taken a narrow view of physics here, focusing on fundamental theoretical physics rather than experimental, observational or applied physics. I should have made that more explicit in the video. And I agree that there's a strong connection between science and technology. But that doesn't make them the same thing. There's a reason we have two different words - "science" and "technology" - it's because they're _different_ things. There's a strong connection between apples and oranges, too - they're both fruits - but that doesn't mean that if I say something about oranges - such as that they're _citrus_ fruits - that I'm saying it about apples, too. Similarly, if I say something about science - such as that fundamental theoretical physics has become paralyzed in the last 50 years - it doesn't mean that I'm saying the same thing about technology. I'm not.
@maziusclavo8021
@maziusclavo8021 23 күн бұрын
Being egocentric and/or dogmatic is not flawed in the sense that its part of intelligent human nature and the scientific world that critisizes him 😂 Dont the rest appreciate his great contribution to discussion with things such as computational irreducibility, equivalence and boundedness?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 23 күн бұрын
Yes, well said, thanks Mazius!
@janbelljara4495
@janbelljara4495 24 күн бұрын
The science of particles
@skendiroglu
@skendiroglu 24 күн бұрын
Because there is an intentional obscurantism. Real scientists like Jean-Pierre Petit are silenced by pseudo-academics.
@colinadevivero
@colinadevivero 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for your excellent video. You have finally accomplished what seemed impossible, to cut down a very complex concept into sufficiently small and simple thoughts that even an old and dumb person like me can understand. Blessings to you and your family
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 24 күн бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that!
@sacriptex5870
@sacriptex5870 24 күн бұрын
Sthephen are original in every way you look at
@PerryWagle
@PerryWagle 24 күн бұрын
Without peer review, how do you separate the gems from the mountain of slush? You didn't even hint at an answer to that. Recall that review found a significant flaw in Wiles' first version of a proof of Fermat's Last Theorem?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 24 күн бұрын
Yes, sometime peer review can catch errors, for sure. But for the most part, it doesn't. And worse, it encourages research within the narrow parameters of what peer review can handle, rather than bolder ideas. There's already a mountain of slush in academic journals, so there's already the problem of finding the gems amongst the millions of papers published. I think we'd be better off relying on mechanisms other than peer review. I'm not the only one who thinks is. There's increasing, quiet dissatisfaction with peer review among academics. I really recommend you take a look at Adam Mastroianni's take on this _The rise and fall of peer review_ www.experimental-history.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review Thanks for the push-back, Perry!
@PerryWagle
@PerryWagle 24 күн бұрын
@@lasttheory GIGO. More slush than not out there. You didn't present alternatives in the video, you only promoted wallowing in the undifferentiated slush. But sure, do please trot out better alternatives!
@davidoros6887
@davidoros6887 25 күн бұрын
The value of the wolfram phisics is ,this research is looking for a primordial geometric development of the chords, and not the mathematical configuration, the after analysis of the shapes will bring the mathematical relationships
@macdmacd7896
@macdmacd7896 25 күн бұрын
no progress in physics... useless physics didnt stop wars physics cant stop the crumbling of your nation you are toooooo late kiddo
@neurolancer81
@neurolancer81 26 күн бұрын
I think there is a lot of weight to the "no peer review" criticism. If you notice, all the people but Wolfram who are involved with the project are still publishing, like Jonathan for example. They are putting some of the nuggets out there. The problem I think Stephen's more bold claims are not fully mathematically worked out for them to be published. Even the primary concept of computational irreducibility does not have a strong mathematical basis. I think the maths will come in time hopefully but the folks who criticize Stephen for not publishing are not wrong either. At least until the project publishes the central ideas and has other scientists vet the ideas in a formal setting, these ideas have to be dealt with as the interesting hypotheses that they are.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 26 күн бұрын
Yes, I think you're right that Stephen Wolfram is uniquely reluctant to publish. And I agree, Jonathan Gorard in particular is instrumental in bridging the gap between the Wolfram Physics Project and academia. I do think, though, that there are some ideas that are amenable to publication in academic papers, such as Jonathan's derivations of general relativity arxiv.org/abs/2004.14810 and aspects of quantum mechanics www.complex-systems.com/abstracts/v29_i02_a02/ , and others that are not, such as Wolfram's massive zoologies of rules. I don't think this is necessarily an either-or. Peer review seems badly broken to me, but maybe, fixed, it might have a place. And in my mind, just putting ideas out there on the web, as Wolfram does, has a place too. Thanks for the thoughtful comment!
@pairoa
@pairoa 26 күн бұрын
I don't know much , this sounds very good and I am excited with Wolfram Physics proposals but, why not submit to peer review despite it's flaws and possibility to get rejected, wouldn't this at least give this new framework more credit as to dare to be subjected to the available reviews? Because it is a solid proposal? Eventually if Wolfram Physics nails it in many real problems , the peer review will have to retract and will promote a better way to filter good science from bad.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 26 күн бұрын
Yes, good question. I think Stephen Wolfram has real antipathy to academia, which doesn't always serve him well. Jonathan Gorard is, I think, stepping in to provide that bridge between the Wolfram Physics Project and academia. He has published several seminal papers on the Wolfram model in a traditional academic format. A more direct answer to your question, though, is that it would be very hard to submit most of what Stephen Wolfram has produced to peer review. Academia's simply not set up to handle this computational paradigm. It accepts short papers, whereas much of what Wolfram has done is voluminous computations. Thanks for the question!
@curiousmind9287
@curiousmind9287 26 күн бұрын
Do you think relativity, black holes, neutrinos, higgs and the rest of the zoo of elementary particles has to be challenged?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 26 күн бұрын
Good question, but no, I don't think these theories need to be challenged at a high level. What we need is explanations of _why_ these theories are the way they are. Especially with the particles... I mean, _why_ neutrinos? _why_ Higgs? _why_ the rest of the zoo?
@georhodiumgeo9827
@georhodiumgeo9827 26 күн бұрын
I think his work on the human mind as a computational device at some point in the ruliad progressing to another point is the best work he has ever done. Now Wolfram physics as a graph of discrete cellular automata, in my humble opinion, looks like junk... Furthermore trying to sell this as a settled fact, as he often does, is off-putting to me. I would be more open to him if he started off saying "I have a wild idea that has very little supporting evidence but is very powerful and could ultimately be found to represent the true nature of reality." In that context I would be very open to him but that isn't where he is at. At a minimum he is brilliant and definitely deserves the attention he gets. That being said, no, I'm sorry, I just don't think there is enough evidence for a cellular automata universe yet and it seems unlikely that this will be our best path forward. If I'm wrong and we find evidence for that I will gladly admit it. Either way I wish him the best and hope he continues his work. Nobody can deny his brilliance.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 26 күн бұрын
Yes, I hear you, it would definitely be better if Stephen Wolfram presented all this as the wild ideas they are, rather than settled fact, which they're not. I think there's more evidence that the hypergraph model is promising than maybe you realize. Jonathan Gorard has derived general relativity kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6XNmXhmipKgncU and aspects of quantum mechanics kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4vLdIyCj8ahe6c from the hypergraph, which is far from proof that the model is right, but seems extremely promising to me. Thanks for the comment!
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 26 күн бұрын
When they stop looking the other way every time plasma and electromagnetism raise their heads, things will change.
@commentarytalk1446
@commentarytalk1446 26 күн бұрын
He probably needs to retitle his work: "A MORE Fundamental Theory THAN Physics..." or his "A Theory of Everything" should also be subducted into this new title (because strictly speaking it CANNOT be everything in the future and secondly there's an even more fundamental level that remain a mystery prior to this lower level he appears to be uncovering), to quote from his article on Path to TOE in Physics, April, 2020: "I soon realized that if that was going to be the case, we’d in effect have to go underneath space and time and basically everything we know. Our rules would have to operate at some lower level, and all of physics would just have to emerge." So his is where he's operating and it's simpler perhaps to state this upfront and call it by another name than Physics at this level: There's clearly a connection from raw Mathematics/Logic that has a transformative ability from this into Physical Phenomena as we know it aka "within Space-Time". It should be more explicit that what he's proposing is indeed this "link" and it seems based on upon numbers creating topology and self-ordering information that then manifests emergent phenomena aka physics. Physics is no different to being an emergent phenomena in the same way that it also gives rise to the emergence of chemistry and thence biology and we're going to see shortly that biology is giving rise to more emergence such as sentience and consciousness as even higher orders of intelligence manifestation in the cosmos and beyond biology abstracting into cultural evolution and that will then produce AGI operation/awareness from that still further. His basic insight has got to hold true as above the trend can be predicted and expected to continue: "...that even when the underlying rules for a system are extremely simple, the behavior of the system as a whole can be essentially arbitrarily rich and complex." In science taking a system, then taking it apart aka reductivism and from that deduction has proved immensely powerful. Reversing that and taking simple elements and rules and allowing them to play out or "simulate" into a system aka emergence is an opposite useful method he seems to have deployed with success because taking a macroscopic view of our universe: It looks a lot like smaller structures of other systems of density of networks of connections eg neurones in a brain in 3d could easily look like the structure at macro scale of our universe! When Charles Darwin came up with Evolution, he had a lot of data to use to formulate a Theory and a lot of it at the macro scale held up and only later with Mendell's genetic units did the mechanism (amongst others) support it. I think this approach will follow suit: The observation of the universe as a giant such structure perhaps a kind of hypergraph will eventually yield new insights because the reconception using this way to picture it will help break through beyond current models' limitations by joining up things more coherently that seems separate. For example to reconceptualize "Time" as sort of "CPU Tick Cycle" of information propagation across the system is a very useful different way of looking at time and it seems to provide explanatory value eg Time Dilation. The criticisms you cite are about the Person, not the above idea so seem to be of incidental interest. What might be the best outcome of this theory? It seems to me things might start to change quite quickly in the coming years and the least benefit of a number of such potential benefits from this theory will be the demystifying of the physical universe at least in so far as our human minds can apprehend it: Those little computational universes or microcosms for example can be held in the palm of our hands, why not the nature of the universe too - at a very zoomed out focus of course!
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 26 күн бұрын
Yes, you're right, we might need a different name for Wolfram's sub-physics ideas. He uses the term _metamathematics,_ which I think is pretty good. And yes, the criticisms I talk about in this video are about the person. Happily, the other 50+ videos I've put out on htis channel are about the ideas! Hope you'll take a look at them, too. Thanks for the comment!
@maziusclavo8021
@maziusclavo8021 23 күн бұрын
He cannot afford being that explicit thats all
@Achrononmaster
@Achrononmaster 26 күн бұрын
@3:00 self-promotion is not a criticism of the guys ideas. You cannot divide and conquer like this, you need to consider Wolfram Fyzzix holistically, the whole deal. When you comprehend the whole deal, and think carefully about what the word "physics" really should mean, only then can you see the blatant self-promotion is simple ego. The guy honestly believes he is onto something yuuuge. But he's not, he is just delusional, like many geniuses before him (who did not have the Internet to promote themselves). You know what else gets believed and promoted with millions of clicks on the t00bs? Celebrity cracker culture and gambling grfits. That's not to say Wolfram is a grifter, just to point out what becomes popular is not necessarily good for you. Even Jonathan Gorard is denying Wolfram physics is a serious thing, he claims it is only a model, one "contender" among many. Which is still not even true. Wolfram physics is a language for exploring computational systems. If you can find a real physical system that conforms to his rules, then he is doing physics. But mostly he is not doing physics, he is doing some mathematics and desperately looking for physics in them. But that's Ptolemy all over again. If you can make enough scratches on paper using the symbols of English and math, sooner or later you will write down a Lorentz transformation. This does not mean your language is what The Universe (so-to-speak) speaks. To account for entanglement with a _physical_ theory you need something simple and natural. Why? Because entanglement is extremely basic and elementary, it is the simplest phenomenon we know that the universe is built up from. You cannot put it in by hand, that's "cheating". Wolfram Fyzixx puts it in by hand.
@codaroma
@codaroma 27 күн бұрын
is there such a thing as an undirected hyperedge. where the order of nodes within the curly brackets does not matter?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Yes, you can construct undirected hypergraphs. From what Jonathan Gorard has told me, it's not that important exactly what kinds of hypergraphs you use in the Wolfram model, but completely general, directed hypergraphs have certainly proved fruitful!
@codaroma
@codaroma 27 күн бұрын
is chaos random? is it possible to have non-random indeterministic process?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
I think these are semantic questions. To answer the first, if what we mean by a chaotic system is one in which it's difficult to see any order, then it's possible to get chaos in a fully deterministic system, as Stephen Wolfram's investigations of cellular automata showed. To answer the second, if a process is indeterministic, then I think that implies randomness, because if the indeterminism isn't due to randomness, then it must be due to something deterministic. So no, randomness and determinism seem mutually exclusive to me. Thanks again for the questions!
@snarkyboojum
@snarkyboojum 27 күн бұрын
The main issue with the Wolfram's Physics Project is that the ideas lack compelling, explanatory power. So far, there are no new deep insights afforded by his approach. His ideas are definitely interesting, but they don't shed any new explanatory light on existing theories. Maybe it's too early, but that's the key criticism in my view. Also, his ideas haven't generated any new physics yet. That's ok if it's early, but it's not going to get much attention until he has something really new and original to say about the physical world. So far, he's trying to march through the history of physics massaging his approach and framework to support existing accepted physical theories, and there are still very significant gaps there too. So in short, I wouldn't get too caught up on the cult of the personality - that's a mere distraction. I would look at those other two objections a lot more carefully though.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Thanks, it's good to hear where you're at with this. I agree that the Wolfram model hasn't generated any new physics yet, and, as you say, this is because it's early. I'd push back on your suggestion that there are no new deep insights, though. The idea that of a discrete space-time, generated through updates to a hypergraph, that conforms to Einstein's equations of General Relativity, is surely an insight that gives us a deeper understanding of the structure of space. The idea that the same ideas, applied in a different space, can give rise to some of the principles of Quantum Mechanics, is, if it's right, a major step forward in my mind in our understanding of how General Relativity relates to Quantum Mechanics. You're right, there are significant gaps, not least in the model's handling of particles, but there's no massaging going on here. Jonathan Gorard's derivations of General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics involve remarkably few, weak assumptions. They more or less fall out of the model! I agree, now that I've addressed these criticisms of Stephen Wolfram, I'll be getting back to the actual ideas on this channel, so much more important than the personalities!
@maziusclavo8021
@maziusclavo8021 23 күн бұрын
False because computacional irreducibility, equivalence and boundedness for example are deep insights
@frun
@frun 27 күн бұрын
I like SW and his philosophy, but believe his physics model is wrong(partially). People who hate him are schmucks.
@cheetah100
@cheetah100 27 күн бұрын
Did you actually read A New Kind of Science? Because I did, after buying a copy. I'm a fan of digital physics and was hoping he had made progress. Only nothing of the kind is proposed. It's not even about peer review. It's like buying a book title A New Way to Bake Cakes and finding only a intracate lengthy tomb on different way to milk cows.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Yes, I hear you about _A New Kind of Science._ But have you taken a look at _A project to find the Fundamental Theory of Physics?_ Written 20 years later, it's a completely different beast (and a very beautiful one!) getting into the specifics of how a hypergraph-based model maps on to physics as we know it. It's available free online, here's the introduction: writings.stephenwolfram.com/2020/04/finally-we-may-have-a-path-to-the-fundamental-theory-of-physics-and-its-beautiful/ I highly recommend you taking a look.
@codaroma
@codaroma 27 күн бұрын
when traversing can you follow an edge opposing the direction?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Same answer as for your comment on another of my videos: the arrows on the edges don't indicate a direction of travel, they just indicate a relationship between those nodes. Travel, as we would understand it (as very large creatures) is achieved instead through the rewriting of the hypergraph, causing structures that were once in one place to be deconstructed and reconstructed in a different place. Hope that helps, and thanks for the questions!
@niblick616
@niblick616 27 күн бұрын
Maybe, after Wolfram has finally demonstrated anything that he and you claim, including that his work has 'predicted' anything, including Quantum Mechanics in any meaningful way, you might have a case. Sorry.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
I don't know if this will satisfy you, but the Wolfram model does very precisely give rise to Einstein's equations, i.e. predicts General Relativity. Take a look at Jonathan Gorard's overview: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6XNmXhmipKgncU These are not novel predictions, but they're indicative that the Wolfram model is at the very least a contender.
@niblick616
@niblick616 27 күн бұрын
@@lasttheory 1/ You are correct that what you provided does not satisfy me because it does not address any of my observations, unfortunately. 2/ The last claim in your post does not logically follow from your failure to provide any valid and verified evidence that Wolfram model actually qualifies as a contender for what it claims to do. 3/ What would satisfy me are the things I have already listed in my previous post, which summarises how real science works. None of those have been provided. 4/ Your latest link is a duplicate of some of what I had already looked at and discussed. Nothing extra or valid and verified was added to what you had already posted, unfortunately.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
@@niblick616 OK, we might have to agree to disagree here. If papers with precise derivations of real physics from the Wolfram model, such as Jonathan Gorard's _Some Relativistic and Gravitational Properties of the Wolfram Model_ arxiv.org/abs/2004.14810 deriving Einstein's equations, aren't enough for you to take this seriously, then I don't know how we can have a meaningful conversation.
@niblick616
@niblick616 26 күн бұрын
@@lasttheory 1/ Unfortunately, the paper you have now cited does not do what you claim. It contains a lot of arm waving and assumptions derived from already existing physics. The paper has been published in The Journal of Complex Systems, which was co-founded and edited by Stephen Wolfram. Arxiv has published an updated version 2 of the paper in 18/10/2021. That does not appear to have been published in the Journal of Complex Systems. 2/ The various claims in that paper have not been repeatedly confirmed by any independent, reputable scientists. 3/ The Wolfram model is not accepted in science in any meaningful way. Nothing you have provided actually demonstrates that. 4/ Wolfram stated in 2020 "... “Sometime - I hope soon - there might just be a rule … that has all the right properties, and that we’ll slowly discover that, yes, this is it - our universe finally decoded,” Then he expanded that to a class of rules/models when he stated "...The purpose here is to introduce a class of models that could be relevant. The models are set up to be as minimal and structureless as possible...". in this paper A Class of Models with the Potential to Represent Fundamental Physics Now he seems to be saying that all rules maybe operating to do that job when he writes "...The full ruliad involves taking the infinite limits of all possible rules, all possible initial conditions and all possible steps. The fundamental idea of Wolfram seems to have fundamentally changed.
@vonHolzwege
@vonHolzwege 27 күн бұрын
I have met Stephen Wolfram in the context of the Wolfram Tech Conferences and Summer schools. He knows who I am, which is something. I find him interesting in the extreme, with a reality-distortion field that rivals Steve Jobs. I have no problem naming things 'Wolfram', having struggled with naming software programs. Naming a company after oneself has a long tradition -- Ford Motor corp, Hewlett-Packard, etc. etc. Peer review seems to be broken at the moment and it is not the only way to present ideas. I do not know enough Physics to understand the Physics project, but I do understand enough maths to know that the mathematical aspects of the project is very interesting, and I see applications of many of his ideas outside of fundamental physics. As you point out, it is the ideas that count, and Stephen has provided more than enough information for anyone to assess the ideas. When I was a research specialist (physical biochemistry), it was well known that papers (even good ones -- peer reviewed, of course) left out critical technical details that made it hard to replicate experiments. For myself, I am convinced that there is enough to the ideas for me to spend my time (and resources) on understanding it.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Thanks, George, for the thoughtful response. It's interesting that you bring up the reality-distortion field that's shared by Stephen Wolfram, Steve Jobs and (I'd add) Elon Musk. Reality distortion can be infuriating, but it can sometime achieve extraordinary things.
@niblick616
@niblick616 27 күн бұрын
In what way does peer review seem to be 'broken'? You didn't say.
@vonHolzwege
@vonHolzwege 27 күн бұрын
@@niblick616 Whole articles on this topic. Too easy to get junk science past review, for one. No direct experience, but undoubtedly too hard to get new ideas published.
@niblick616
@niblick616 27 күн бұрын
@@vonHolzwege 1/ You admit that you have no direct experience, but you feel confident enough to claim that it is "...undoubtedly too hard to get new ideas published...". It is obviously false when anyone can publish any bizarre idea on the internet, whenever they want. 2/ What is interesting, is that some frienge people like Hossenfelder claim that it is too easy to get things published in some areas of physics as you did yourself, when you claimed "...Too easy to get junk science past review, for one. ...". Which is it, too easy or too hard? 3/ What articles are you referring to? What data have you based your assertion on? What time period do your remarks apply to? Published by which organisations? 4/ I am, afraid that you have not provided any valid and verified evidence for any of your claims.
@bouipozz
@bouipozz 27 күн бұрын
A scientist is never less scientific than when criticising an idea that they don't believe to be scientific enough to be worth their time. Wolfram's personality has nothing to do with anything. Yet somehow this seems to be the topic of most discussions rather than the content of his theories. Newton was a renowned asshole... but 350 years later we all know his name. I admire Wolfram's tenacity. Even if everything he has ever worked on turns out to be gibberish, the world needs people like him who are willing to go against the grain, regardless of how others may view them. Ostracising a person will only fuel their narcissism.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Yes, that's well said. I often wonder why scientists never learn the lesson that they shouldn't summarily dismiss a theory they haven't taken the time to understand. It's too easy to end up looking foolish in retrospect! Thanks for the comment!
@bouipozz
@bouipozz 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! And for the patience to offer a balanced view that is so rare these days.
@maziusclavo8021
@maziusclavo8021 23 күн бұрын
Narcissism is an evolutionary advantage, Wolfram already did a great work devoting his life to his own conviction
@janschneider8647
@janschneider8647 27 күн бұрын
I got to know about Stephen Wolfram in a podcast where he was discussing with Eric Weinstein and bought the book "A Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics" immediately. I started reading the book, and to be fair not in super detail by computing the result of each rule, but just enough detail to get a rough understanding. After the explanation of the multiway graph, immediately something "clicked" in my brain, and all the weird stuff I knew about quantum mechanics suddenly made sense (I'm not a physicist, I just like to read about the topic but usually I'm too lazy to do the maths to understand the stuff deeply). At some point, the book explains that in these models time is seen as the actualization of space itself, rather than a different dimension, and that fits way better to my personal experience and my formal training in computer science. After all, the map is not the territory, models are not reality, they are just tools that help us understand it. The concept of computational irreducibility made also so much sense to me, and for me became kind of evident everywhere. Of course, the universe is deterministic but that doesn't mean that everything is predictable. That's the reason we can learn about things about the universe, do science, and as living beings we need to stay attentive. There are multiple examples not only from the book but also from different podcasts of him, that make so much sense based on stuff that I've been thinking for years that somehow very few people seem to question like what is a thing? Is order something that exists physically or just something arbitrary that we impose on the state of the universe? what is life? why there is something rather than nothing? The answers that Stephen provides make a lot of sense to me. In my opinion, he can come across as a bit too arrogant on podcasts so I can see why that can be a turn-off sometimes, Nevertheless, the ideas he discusses are amazing. Regarding giving credit I do not know at the moment if he is doing the right thing or not by keeping Jonathan and the other young researchers out of the spotlight because the proposals of Wolfram Physics are a bit controversial and he already has enough fame, money, and status to handle these controversies. On the other hand, for young researchers, these controversies might be career destroyers. I really hope that more credit will be given to these great minds once there is no risk for them to be associated with the project.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for this, Jan. I've had a similar experience coming across Stephen Wolfram's ideas: as soon as I heard about them, I had a feeling that this could be right. I think Jonathan Gorard is in a solid enough position in his career that he can handle these controversies. I also think it's important that he provides the bridge to academia that Stephen Wolfram spurns. The University of Cambridge and Princeton University have already provided homes for Jonathan and his brilliance!
@tkenben
@tkenben 27 күн бұрын
It does seem like Wolfram is intentionally gatekeeping. This looks bad for two reasons that I can think of, 1) He actually isn't sure it will stand up to intense scrutiny; in other words the research is not complete enough to share even parts of it, and/or 2) He really does want any discovery all to himself, both the credit and the rewards, and if someone stumbles upon it besides him, he wants it to be someone under his employ. Other than that, I applaud his genius and also his unapologetic attitude. I say to naysayers: let him run, stop complaining, and see what happens. Just like I would with Newton or Davinci, I myself would not give him money, but I'd probably buy him a beer.
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Yes, you put it well. I don't think I'd use the word "gatekeeping", given the volume of material Wolfram puts out there (1200-page books, hours and hours of video), but I know what you mean about his seeming to want to keep it all in-house. If you ever get to buy Stephen Wolfram a beer, please let me know, I'd love to join you!
@LeJipTheHype
@LeJipTheHype 22 күн бұрын
I don't think someone gatekeeping would stream themselves live CEOing.
@codaroma
@codaroma 27 күн бұрын
does the direction/arrow of the edge restrict the path that can be walked? are they the same as a one way street?
@lasttheory
@lasttheory 27 күн бұрын
Good question, but no, the arrows on the edges don't indicate a direction of travel, they just indicate a relationship between those nodes. Travel, as we would understand it (as very large creatures) is achieved instead through the rewriting of the hypergraph, causing structures that were once in one place to be deconstructed and reconstructed in a different place.
@dnn8350
@dnn8350 27 күн бұрын
Don't forget Bruno Marchal.
@iuvalclejan
@iuvalclejan 27 күн бұрын
@lasttheory I also enjoyed you bringing in the Jesuit, because physics is a kind of priesthood, more so than other science disciplines. Neal Stephenson ran with this idea in his book Anathem...