Thanks. This was very helpful. But you failed to mention a key trap! After 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 c6 4.Qb3 e6 5.cxd5, Black must play the counterintutive 5...exd5!, violating the maxim about capturing toward the center, since 5...cxd5?? 6.Qa4+ wins the bishop. ChessBase Online shows that a LOT of people fall into this trap. In this move order, 18 people played the correct 5...exd5!, while 7 (i.e 28%) blundered with 5...cxd5??. Another 31 blundered away their bishop by a different move order, I assume 4.cxd5 cxd5 first, and then 5.Qb3 e6?? In this case, they may think they're being clever, since 5.Qb3 Nf6! would allow 6.Qxb7 Nbd7 7.Bxd5. In fact 7.Bxd5?? would be a blunder because of 7...Rb8! 8.Qc6?? (defending the bishop) Rc8 and wins.
@trumplostlol30079 күн бұрын
Stockfish plays g4. So, it means the first opening move really doesn't matter. It is the response to your opponent's move that matters.
@GraemeCree13 күн бұрын
Well, the Grob is like Scholars Mate. An opening that's intended to get an advantage based on the the opponent not knowing how to play against it. For a while Nakamura was playing 1. P-K4 P-K4 2. Q-R5 as a kind of handicap to show he could still outplay certain people who didn't fall for the trap. With the Grob, after 1. P-KN4 P-Q4 2. B-N2 BxP 3. P-QB4 P-QB3 4. Q-N3, Black is supposed to freak out over the possibility of QxP, and play something awful, like P-QN3. The problem is it's hard for Black to freak out sufficiently to wreck his game. After 4... Q-N3, Black is still a bit better. He's even slightly better after 4... PxP and B-B1. At least with the Scholar's Mate White wins if Black falls for it.
@MaverickJohnson00721 күн бұрын
At my rating people rarely play the queens gambit. Is this still good against the London?
@yashkumars684027 күн бұрын
😢😂
@supratimbhattacharyya9251Ай бұрын
Very good analysis
@ErikKislikChessSuccessАй бұрын
Thanks! You can check out the final games of the match I analyzed.
@aaronasher9800Ай бұрын
Awesome stuff! Your coverage of the match has been the best of anyone on KZbin. I'm surprised there aren't hundreds of views on every game you analyzed, but maybe there's just market capture from the biggest chess KZbinrs stealing all the views.
@aaronasher9800Ай бұрын
more good stuff
@aaronasher9800Ай бұрын
Nice one. It looked like Ding didn't try to press at all, or didn't realize he was winning
@user-jp7gg8jb7wАй бұрын
good analysis
@dizzyblue7003Ай бұрын
At 3 minutes 46, there is a very strong symmetry for Ding
@dizzyblue7003Ай бұрын
It's a fun position to play, maybe focus on development and not push too hard.
@chessablechesscourses451Ай бұрын
Thanks for this recap! A lot of stuff no other commentators seemed to cover
@chessablechesscourses451Ай бұрын
I've really enjoyed these recaps! I think you've got the best commentary on the whole match of anyone
@luca4xxxАй бұрын
Gm teachers often say to their students, keep the pawns tension! Now I often think that the "passive" Queen exchange is good attacking and defensive strategy; The blunder is huge because activate Nf8 and lose Bishop pair; of course Gukesh isn't crazy, if u evaluate the position statically black pawns formation aweful
@ErikKislikChessSuccessАй бұрын
Hey Luca, thanks for the comment. Often times keeping the pawn tension is a good way to make your opponent nervous, disoriented, and provoke errors. A "passive" queen exchange will often improve your pieces or your pawn structure, while not improving the opponent's; you get to benefit while they don't. The problem with Qxf5 as a whole is that the three isolated pawns on the kingside are not weak because there is not enough force to attack them and win them with. Something is only weak if it can be exploited. Many entire openings are based on the idea of having three isolated pawns on the kingside, defending them with your king, and drawing easily at the IM/GM level. It is only a problem with more pieces on the board that could exploit the pawns, like if this occurred in the opening or middlegame. Gukesh has had a tendency to overevaluate a lot of the positions he has gotten with White in this match. He needs to keep his objectivity for the final 5 games.
@luca4xxxАй бұрын
@@ErikKislikChessSuccess I saw in Game 2 and this one, he made bad use of bishop pair. Gukesh will obviously improve a lot in his positional play in the years to come if he change his style. Other GMs would have chosen 11.Nxc4 saving a tempo without h3...after Nbd7 the idea is a4 stopping b5 or d6,Bf4,Ne3,h4 plan; since Black can't play Nc6 after Nbd7; Very few inaccuracies if we consider that in all games Ding decides to opt for strange positioning of the pieces and Gukesh for alternative positional maneuvers.
@luca4xxxАй бұрын
Bc5 is easy to play, but I only consider Qxh7 trick, wow Rf3 and Qf1, the bishop pair save the game, and with a weaker player White has pracical winning chances, crazy stuff! Open f file was almost a blunder for Ding, that's why Bxe6! A "Petrosian move" King safety first !
@luca4xxxАй бұрын
Gukesh wasn't familiar with Ding nice queenside attack, He played g4 but arrange his pieces in particular Bishops f2 and g2 as if he played g3. Wow fantastic engine regrouping with Be1,Bf1
@riddhicheema7793Ай бұрын
that is soooo random lol... but kinda intriguing, so thx for sharing
@riddhicheema7793Ай бұрын
@chessablechesscourses451Ай бұрын
This was the most creative title I've seen on a chess video yet LOL. Love the jokes and deep discussion of strategy. You should have 100k subs
@aaronasher9800Ай бұрын
@chessablechesscourses451Ай бұрын
hey Erik! I just wanted to say that I've been following a lot of the coverage from all of the major chess channels, and I think you've had the best and deepest coverage of the match. You always bring up moves, ideas, and philosophy no one else is talking about. Good stuff!
@GauravDattaLawАй бұрын
As a French player, I really loved this game and your analysis
@ErikKislikChessSuccessАй бұрын
Thanks Gaurav! I may do a video on my French Defense games at some point. The games have a very distinct and unique feel from other openings. I saw an awesome Winawer game - Bronstein-Uhlmann from 1978 yesterday and it was something so crazy it only could have come from a French Defense.
@MattRadioheadheadАй бұрын
Thanks for the spoilers in the titles of your videos.
@riddhicheema7793Ай бұрын
In his defense, he got straight into Ding's poor metagame strategy within 15 seconds of the video, so he really didn't bury the lede. For what it's worth, Kislik doesn't use any of the annoying language Nakamura does and actually goes deeper in the analysis.
@vishnusreekumar6712Ай бұрын
Kislik always has the latest videos of any of the main KZbinrs, so this is a kinda crazy comment. It would be like reading the election results on November 9th for the first time. Just a heads up, next week he'll be posting the results of the 1972 Fischer-Spassky match. Spoiler alert: Chess happens! 🧐📚
@aaronasher9800Ай бұрын
If you don't want to see spoilers, I recommend not watching videos about the World Chess Championship until after the event is over. Or you could just mute the sound and watch the video without reading the title.
@chessablechesscourses451Ай бұрын
To avoid spoilers, might I suggest watching the video on mute, with your screen turned off? Or better yet, let's all agree to discuss chess like it's a soap opera: 'Did you see what Ding did in the last episode?' 'No, don't tell me, I'm still on the Candidates Tournament arc!' 📺🤫
@dizzyblue7003Ай бұрын
🙃
@ErikKislikChessSuccessАй бұрын
Howdy! If you have any more thoughts on the game, just let me know
@justanotheryoutubechannel31025 ай бұрын
I just resigned a game I THOUGHT I lost my knight in. *1. g4 d5 2. Bg2 e5 3. c3 Nc6 4. Qb3 Be6 5. Qxb7 Na5 6. Qb5+* not seeing after 6...c6, the knight is defended by my queen when i was actually UP half a pawn because i got rattled by white's initiative. now to see if this is a gambit lovers kind of line. at my 1700 level, 2...Bg4 has bad results. after 3.c4, white scores 57:40 in 1 million 1600-2000 rated games.2...c6 is the strongest reply for amateurs at 47:50 in 527k games and is the ONLY line black has an edge in. 2...e5 scores a little better than your line too at my level. I THOUGHT claiming the center was the correct book move.
@mirrorportal15876 ай бұрын
I’d like to see you refute this opening if a titled player were to play it against you. Grob for life.
@RayT707 ай бұрын
An interesting gambit vs. The Grob goes 1. g4 d5 2. Bg2 Bxg4 3. c4 dxc4 4. Bxb7 Nd7 5. Bxa8 Qxa8 6. f3 e5 7. d4 -/+ The method I prefer is 1. g4 d5 2. Bg2 e5 3. h3 Nc6 4. d3 Be6 Black will castle long and play h5 and f6 in some order. Usually, the knight goes to g6 via e7. Black is better.
@vixr95578 ай бұрын
nonsense why would I retreat my bishop to e3 lol. Qe3! +-
@fearme2799 ай бұрын
Bro talks shi about grob, when GM Ian almost lost to it by FM Omariev. The grob works untill 2k~ and is absolutely relentless.
@alexkendall98099 ай бұрын
Exquisite!!!!!!!!!!
@ketchup521 Жыл бұрын
he forgot his anal beads this match
@riddhicheema7793 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I loved this Can't Lose and Must Win psychology discussion you went into
@aaronasher9800 Жыл бұрын
at 40:55 Kislik offers to teach Hans with his pawn break training manual 😂😂
@jackacejones9562 Жыл бұрын
Funny video! Just randomly popped in my feed
@shanklandsnumberonefan6009 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back making vids since Shankland doesn't post them anymore
@beepboop204 Жыл бұрын
@TheThinkersBible Жыл бұрын
Nice teardown of the Grob, thanks for sharing.
@trueman3395 Жыл бұрын
Good dear❤❤❤❤
@takituk4584 Жыл бұрын
3:40 how can you capture the d4 pawn with bf3 if whites bishop is on g2 still?
@Hayden22464 Жыл бұрын
Hey there G I Bought the Tate's HU2.0 course in 2022 and watched ur lessons. i just came by to check if you still existed , hehe Good luck man.
@ErikKislikChessSuccess Жыл бұрын
haha that's cool. You can also find me as iamerikkislik on Instagram.
@MrTraderon Жыл бұрын
What happens after knight moves exposing Q to attack?
@E8oL4 Жыл бұрын
Can you prove a pawn is worth 4 tempi? Sounds a bit dubious tbh
@aaronasher9800 Жыл бұрын
Is this a troll comment? Grandmaster Larry Kaufman, Rybka and Komodo programmer, published that in a report more than 10 years ago. Why in the world would that sound dubious? That's one of the very few mathematical facts about chess that is both proven and perfectly logical when you understand it
@E8oL4 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronasher9800 yeah somehow that made it sound even more dubious :D
@jflores33 Жыл бұрын
I don't get this video. I got the point about looking at unprotected pieces immediately, but then you go through position after position to drill through how to do this when 2-3 examples would suffice. And the two examples I looked at as puzzles had nothing to do with unprotected pieces at all, just finding forcing winning moves like Qd8+!! I guess the vid is geared at 1000 rated USCF players but even then wouldn't they benefit from real examples and your showing how this principle works?
@aaronasher9800 Жыл бұрын
hahahahaha is this a troll comment? Blunders are based on hanging pieces, so an IM who has been ranked online as the #1 chess coach in the world shows you how to identify and notice hanging pieces quickly, so that logically you will avoid blunders with this awareness. Where the hell do you get confused by that? Also, it's a short and to-the-point 8 minute video. No normal person would take issue with that. What is wrong with you?
@tev9827 Жыл бұрын
wait so it's almost like a reverse London?
@vasilije12345 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that g4 is not bad oppening, even facing these lines I menaged to win a lot of games, and for me I have a lot of fun playing this oppening!
@nemetskiylager Жыл бұрын
That's cuz your opponents were bad chess players
@aaronasher9800 Жыл бұрын
@@nemetskiylager yeah, I honestly think people knowing they can just take g4 and develop with normal moves and be winning puts the Grob completely out of business lol
@Adam-to5xu Жыл бұрын
What if on move 2 white plays h3?
@JoaquinDayandante-ju4jc Жыл бұрын
teach it
@mikecantreed Жыл бұрын
I’m well below master level but this seems absurdly hard to see (bishop sac with check 4 moves into critical variation). Do you think a top level player should spot these lines most of the time?
@craigjohnson8305 Жыл бұрын
You should always take a free rook in a position like this unless you are 100% convinced it is perpetual check. The onus is on Black to prove something, and White's king had a lot of room to run. A calculation of less than 7 moves to get out of check and hide behind your rook should not be hard for a master level player when you're up a rook with a new queen coming