There was certainly a lot of recreations of old firearms shown at this years SHOT show. I wonder if someone is going to try and do a recreation of the EM2? This rifle begs to be recreated by a modern company!
@andysavill8580Сағат бұрын
I've been saying it for years!! Would love to see a faithful copy of the EM2, especially in 280 - maybe then the US would understand the whole point of the rifle with a relatively low recoil intermediate cartridge. René Studler in US Ordnance has a lot to answer for!!
@davzinzanКүн бұрын
Do you happen to have any Farquhar-Hills?
@vickersmgКүн бұрын
Not currently.
@kiwigrunt3302 күн бұрын
The way that book was packaged, it clearly wasn't sent by Amazon...😁
@vickersmg2 күн бұрын
“Your delivering of The SAS WAR DIARY, Nutella chocolate spread and washing up liquid has been despatched”
@bremnersghost9487 сағат бұрын
@@vickersmg rofl
@theflyingfool3 күн бұрын
For those of you interested in the Vickers K here are VMGCRAs other two videos: Study video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZKalGSjh9KfqtE Shorter video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYvRoJtqgLilpdU
@vickersmg3 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing. We should have added links in the video too.
@allanburt52503 күн бұрын
Fantastic guys
@vickersmg3 күн бұрын
Thanks Allan
@scottrobinson32813 күн бұрын
A rifle that was way ahead of its time. Its cartridge, the .280 British, was a bit more powerful than the 7,62x39 M43 and the 7,92x33 Kurz, which no doubt influenced its development. It fired a 139gr ball at 2 530fps for 1 980ft.lbs. US pressure for standardisation of the 7,62x51 NATO led to its demise.
@MrPh302 күн бұрын
Almost similar to .275 Rigby that one (7*57 with 140 load instead of heavier ones )
@vickersmg2 күн бұрын
We will do some more work on ammunition choice as it is an interesting subject.
@TheArmourersBench3 күн бұрын
Ooh amazing!
@vickersmg3 күн бұрын
It certainly is! We’re really looking forward to getting stuck into it and using it to help share info on the Vickers K and even the Vickers MMG in use.
@bremnersghost9486 сағат бұрын
@@vickersmg looking forward to that video, Must be a nightmare getting enough .303 together for the vid.
@249346373 күн бұрын
The Vickers k would have been so much more versatile if it had been belt fed! 100 rounds IS a large mag, but I'm guessing that it would be faster to load a fresh belt than a mag?
@vickersmg3 күн бұрын
Potentially but a belt would have made it less flexible once mounted and less self-contained. We will do some more videos on the magazines and reloading with them.
@249346373 күн бұрын
@@vickersmg Fair point, the magazine does make it a compact unit with nothing flapping about. I wasn't commenting with any personal experience with the K, just guessing based on experience with the Bren, LSW and FN MAG / L7A2. Looking forward to seeing more of your vids. Thanks for the upload!
@DavidCowie20224 күн бұрын
That green spare parts box looks just like the tins that my dad had for pipe tobacco. He used the empty tins for keeping small DIY parts like screws. They were all the same size, so probably a standard over different brands. Maybe the rifle team ordered a few? EDIT: a 1oz tobacco tin is 95 x 60 x 25mm, a 2oz tobacco tin is 110 x 80 x 25mm.
@vickersmg4 күн бұрын
The ‘standard’ size is just so it all fits in the breast pocket of a battle dress blouse, be it tobacco or a rifle cleaning kit!
@F4110UTN3RD4 күн бұрын
This would have been a Gem in the fallout series somehow.
@lordsummerisle873 күн бұрын
I believe it's in the Fallout London mod.
@vickersmg3 күн бұрын
Not one we’re familiar with but it’s likely cool for any game or series.
@TheArklyte4 күн бұрын
"What's in the box?" Road not travelled.
@vickersmg2 күн бұрын
It was indeed a choice not taken but we will never know where that road would have taken the British Army.
@TheArklyteКүн бұрын
@vickersmg in case of british army we indeed don't know as most popular althistory scenario about .280 British isn't about britain, it's about US troops in Vietnam having FAL loaded with .280 instead of M14 in .308
@stealmysunshine4 күн бұрын
Very sexy
@EJWEST67284 күн бұрын
Will you do a video on the em2 in British 280?
@vickersmg4 күн бұрын
When we get the opportunity yes I’m sure but there are plenty out there already really.
@youngy19195 күн бұрын
Lush bit of kit, 1st saw one on a visit to Warminster in Phase one and pushed to learn more.
@vickersmg4 күн бұрын
Great. Having this means we’re learning fast too.
@danyoutube74915 күн бұрын
That winter trigger guard is an impressive detail, I'm surprised that they had the foresight to account for the possibility of fighting in very cold conditions. One is used to hearing of newly introduced weapons (particularly the SA80 series!) not faring well in various different environments.
@GARDENER425 күн бұрын
India made one for their poached version of the FAL/L1A1.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Given the Korean War was going on during this particular development phase, it was something they were actually doing and working in at the time. Plenty of winter-specific kit being developed during the Second World War too. There’s always the parallel use of when wearing chemical or nuclear warfare clothing too.
@dermotrooney95845 күн бұрын
Lovely. Thanks.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
You’re welcome Dermot. We will have more to share soon.
@dermotrooney95844 күн бұрын
@vickersmg Keep up the good work. I'm an op research nerd who spends not enough time on firearms so the odd dose of vickersmg keeps me grounded. 🖖
@vickersmg4 күн бұрын
Great stuff Dermot. Please do head over and support us at www.patreon.com/vickersmg as we’ve more than enough there to keep nerds busy!
@dermotrooney95844 күн бұрын
@vickersmg Would love too but bit skint after PhD. I'll get round to it eventually. 🤞
@gaveintothedarkness5 күн бұрын
There's just something about a case that has everything all nicely organized and a spot for everything.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Have you seen the one on the Sten? A Sten in a box! (Not your traditional unboxing video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqa2iX-Bpqh_n5Y
@gaveintothedarkness4 күн бұрын
@@vickersmg Aw Yiss - nicely fitted box.
@vickersmg4 күн бұрын
We have another one or two like that as well so will get some videos of those up soon.
@mattheide27755 күн бұрын
The .280 was a superior round in hindsight. This battle rifle was 25 years ahead of its time as a bullpup design. Thank you for the excellent work.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
You're welcome Matt. If you like what we do, please head over and support us at www.patreon.com/vickersmg.
@ch4ndemic5 күн бұрын
If US interference and influence didn't pressure NATO members to capitulate and adopt the 7.62mm in the 50s we'd have had STANAG intermediate cartridge service rifles for 70 years and it wouldn't have forced European nations to adopt and use FAL, G3 for decades. US saw the folly that was M14+7.62 in their plight of Vietnam and the MIC could stomach adopting a new platform and calibre in the M16 while the rest of NATO were stuck with .308, but they're now ultimately superseding with .277 "Fury"
@mattheide27755 күн бұрын
@ch4ndemic I agree completely 👍
@andysavill85805 күн бұрын
Absolutely, and the M5/.277 is turning into a debacle!!
@vickersmg4 күн бұрын
I have done a lecture recently on the introduction of new ammunition types, based on the Mark 8z .303-inch. I’ll try and get it shared as it’s relevant here too. - Rich
@jakebrowncollection17725 күн бұрын
3:00 is the best part of the video ha ha great video as usual Rich.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
There was a complaint the other day about too many pictures of you in the marketing! It might put people off signing up to www.patreon.com/vickersmg
@jakebrowncollection17725 күн бұрын
@vickersmg ha ha ha that moustache has its own IMDB page by now
@jakebrowncollection17725 күн бұрын
@vickersmg Look forward to seeing more of the EM2 in the future happy to help with kit if needed.
@matthayward78895 күн бұрын
So that’s what heaven looks like
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
It's all subjective Matt. We'd prefer a nice Vickers Class D* of course!
@matthayward78895 күн бұрын
@ can’t say I blame you, but the EM2 has always utterly fascinated me :)
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
It is a fascinating piece. We will be sharing more of it in the coming months so make sure you're checking over on Patreon too.
@surgeon5915 күн бұрын
Very cool! Where on earth do you source stuff like this from in the UK? I'm just getting started with collecting S7 handguns and I'm having a hard enough time trying to get hold of a Swiss Luger
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
We’re in a very privileged position that we can have items like this. As we’ve said elsewhere, we never say never. Being a Section 5 Authority Holder and a Registered Charity puts us in quite a special position. If you like what we do, and want to learn more from our growing archive and reference library, please do support us at www.patreon.com/vickersmg
@surgeon5915 күн бұрын
@vickersmg You guys definitely deserve the support, you're doing great stuff. As I said I'm just starting to dip my toes into section 5 stuff myself with the section 7.1 handguns, I've got a lovely Broomhandle Mauser and a minty S&W Triple Lock in .455, but locating what I'm after is proving much harder than the usual S1 stuff! I'd love to hear a bit about how you track down rare S5 guns to add to the collection
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
@@surgeon591 We have a Broomhandle Mauser as well as it's on our list to produce an NSP and drills aide memoire for very soon, with a full manual to follow. Limited demand with reasonable supply with auctions being one of the more open sources.
@surgeon5915 күн бұрын
@vickersmg The Broomhandle's are lovely things, I'm very fortunate to have the matching stock with mine. Yes the auctions have been my source for what I've got so far. I narrowly missed out on an RFC contract 1911 in .455 auto at the last Holts auction, pockets weren't quite deep enough unfortunately. Do you ever import guns from Europe?
@vickersmg4 күн бұрын
@surgeon591 not directly. We saw that M1911. Very nice it was too.
@lib5565 күн бұрын
My modest collection cries out for an EM2.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Never say never. We don’t.
@davzinzan5 күн бұрын
Incredible
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
We like to think what we’re doing is pretty incredible too.
@haroldellis97215 күн бұрын
This is the "unboxing" I always wanted.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Glad you like it! We will get some more of the boxed items out and do something similar. There is at least one more that viewers will like!
@allanburt52505 күн бұрын
Very nice guys, great collection addition 👍
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Thank you. It certainly tells a nice part of the small arms development story.
@sherwoodforester46665 күн бұрын
What a fantastic acquisition for your collection.i wish someone made a copy for the civilian market.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
An interesting idea!
@sherwoodforester46665 күн бұрын
@vickersmg straight pull only with our stupid laws but the fun factor would be top notch.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
@sherwoodforester4666 well the laws do at least allow us to do what we do and we’re grateful for that.
@ptonpc5 күн бұрын
I have always love the look of the EM 2 since I first saw it in a book *mumbles* decades ago.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
They’re really modern looking but with that ‘classic’ wood aesthetic too.
@Moreteavicar14855 күн бұрын
Great video. I find the development and story of the EM2 fascinating. Thank you.
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
That’s because it is!
@robertmansfield76564 күн бұрын
I would love to see a reproduction of the Rifle number 9.
@Kav.5 күн бұрын
Was this EM-2 Procured from the sale of the movie armourer collection? or is it on loan from another museum?
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Neither.
@indigohammer57325 күн бұрын
I saw one chambered in 7.62 for sale in UK magazine "Guns Review" around 1984. It was £6,000!
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Maybe this one!
@bravo0105Күн бұрын
A bargain!
@liliwinnt66 күн бұрын
Gewehr EM2 mit OVP RARITÄT !!! (ovp, originalverpackung, that's how they say on eBay when the seller is a German lol)
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@jimmy123476546 күн бұрын
Very cool guys!
@vickersmg6 күн бұрын
Thanks. Glad you liked it. We’ve got a few more boxed firearms like this so will do similar for those.
@shottiekingsw9 күн бұрын
My great grandad was in the machine gun corps 2nd battallion i think at the somme
@shottiekingsw9 күн бұрын
He was no. 153462 the records show he was discharged when he was 19 but he was actually 17. He put his age up when he first enlisted i think he was 14 when he first joined the welsh rifles
@vickersmg9 күн бұрын
Is this his record on our MGC Database? discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/e84c4c43-f24b-4044-b4c6-e72187a6bb18
@shottiekingsw9 күн бұрын
@@vickersmg yup thats the one! Thanks for putting it up its been the most info i have found so far
@brandonmarzano88629 күн бұрын
Did you rack it twice?
@vickersmg9 күн бұрын
Not for the half-load on the immediate action. It was double cranked for the initial load, which isn’t shown in this clip.
@apcwjw10 күн бұрын
Nice video. My grandad served in the navy from the First World War to the end of the Second World War and served on HMS Tartar ( Tribal class ) for a good chunk of the war. He was present for operation claymore and the laurenburg trawler enigma cypher capture mission for Bletchley park. He had German army Bayonet for up close fighting as the sword bayonet was a bit too long.
@vickersmg2 күн бұрын
The overall length of the Lanchester and the bayonet does make it unwieldy but really well balanced. HMS Tartar had an interesting way!
@liliwinnt610 күн бұрын
that sound of removing the magazine was crispy, loved it
@vickersmg9 күн бұрын
There are some ‘satisfying’ sounds with this one.
@philbosworth378910 күн бұрын
What an amazing addition to your knowledge base! Hope loads of that good stuff will be shared with us viewers - over time.
@vickersmg10 күн бұрын
That’s the plan!
@high-velocitymammal503010 күн бұрын
The existence of this video implies that there is some war-torn region out there where I could potentially run into one of these. The only question I have is... "where?"
@vickersmg10 күн бұрын
Just. In. Case.
@yo38811 күн бұрын
This timeline would be a lot more fun if y’all adopted that rifle instead of the fal.
@vickersmg10 күн бұрын
If in doubt, go Belgian! Works for beer and chocolate too.
@andysavill8580Сағат бұрын
Yes, we shouldn't of been bullied into abandoning the rifle and cartridge by the US!! Adoption of the 7.62 Nato cartridge was a step backwards!!
@allanburt525012 күн бұрын
Excellent guys
@vickersmg12 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@ptonpc12 күн бұрын
Beautiful looking object. Thanks for letting us get a look at it. I don't think I would be overly happen with that trigger safety in a real world siltation. I can just imagine a finger slipping or just someone making a mistake.
@vickersmg12 күн бұрын
You're welcome. It's a really interesting firearm and thankfully we have one that we can do this with and hopefully raise the profile (and funding) of the Association. It's the same safety design as the Garand I think? - Rich.
@jamesbromstead494912 күн бұрын
Cheers to the Vickers Collection for having such a rare firearm in it's inventory. And thank you for giving us a little look at it.
@vickersmg12 күн бұрын
We have a few more too so stay tuned! We will also be sharing more videos. There's another over on Patreon at the moment. www.patreon.com/posts/120838170
@chooseyouhandle12 күн бұрын
Was this the first British rifle with a safety selector? The layout seems a bit strange.
@vickersmg12 күн бұрын
First rifle with a push-through selector as it was the first select-fire rifle the British had. The safety catch inside the trigger guard is similar to the Garand. The selector is similar to the Sten though.
@philbosworth378913 күн бұрын
An EM2 in 7.62. I knew a few were built so see if the idea could work, but didn't think many, if any survived. How rare is that beast?
@vickersmg13 күн бұрын
Only 59 EM2 were made in total, with those in 7.62 less than a handful.
@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries5 күн бұрын
@@vickersmg @philbosworth3789 In fact 26 X2E1 Automatic Rifles were made by Enfield and BSA - we have a number of those. Total EM2 production by my count was 65. Only 20 EM2s in .280/7mm were ever made so in fact 7.62x51mm rifles outnumber the 'classic' flavour. Then there are the guns made in the various compromise calibres... It's all in my book ;)
@vickersmg5 күн бұрын
Thanks Jonathan. Much appreciated. I was going by memory and scribbled notes from when I last went through the book. - Rich
@andysavill85805 күн бұрын
Vickersmg I saw this example years ago, a stunning piece of British smallarms development. Just a crying shame you're missing a magazine...I happen to have a mint one if you want to complete it?!
@vickersmg4 күн бұрын
@andysavill8580 mmm, we may well do.
@Pilotmario13 күн бұрын
What other firearms would be considered for the SUSA series? I would be curious on how normal safety precautions would be developed for other historical British military firearms such as the Sten, Sterling, FN Hi-Power, and Colt AR-15.
@vickersmg13 күн бұрын
We have all of those on our existing lists, apart from the AR 15. Sterling is already online as an NSP video and a printed card. Next up is the Thompson.
@Pilotmario12 күн бұрын
@@vickersmg Thanks for the response! I will watch that Sterling video.
@philbosworth378916 күн бұрын
Always great to see new content from you guys, however short. I'd love to see you actually firing the EM2, not seen that anywhere else if my memory serves me right.
@vickersmg15 күн бұрын
Thanks Phil. We have some more long content being prepared at the moment but this is at least getting some material out there!
@haroldellis972112 күн бұрын
Forgotten Weapons has a video of that. 🙂
@Moreteavicar148516 күн бұрын
Superb video. Thank you.
@vickersmg15 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@absolutmauser16 күн бұрын
They loved bolting K guns to stuff during WW2
@vickersmg15 күн бұрын
Yep! Jeeps, trucks, top of tanks, ladders and even submarines.
@T1CHE1417 күн бұрын
Forgotten weapons brought me here. Great vid! As an Englishman, im envious.
@vickersmg15 күн бұрын
Glad you found us. If you’re still in the U.K., you can come and visit us even.
@robertsolomielke513417 күн бұрын
TY. Great effort on the Vickers.5 inch. There are at least 8 of them (2x4) on the grave ship HMS Royal Oak, resting at Scapa Flow, as seen in the Skynea vid. Ship mounted , they make more sense to have all the water cooling systems in "happy' arrangement on board, yet I understand why a .50 cal when we now have many 2pdr. mounts ready ? I see why this gun is rarer than most Vickers family of guns..
@vickersmg14 күн бұрын
The Mark 3 variants (as used on ships) are certainly more scarce than the Mark 5 (which we have). We do have the complete set of blueprints for them and we will be digitising those and adding them to Patreon over the coming months.