This reminds of a Bagless Dirt Devil Platinum Force or a Reaction D2
@Blackheartvacs3 күн бұрын
Hmm...I'd say it's more like the bagless version of the bissell Prolite but I can see some resemblance between it and the Platinum force.
@MattSisler-ye9zy4 күн бұрын
I just picked one of these up second hand today & it’s the best vacuum I’ve ever owned. I’ve had expensive rainbow & lindhaus but this one is my favorite. It’s really powerful. Wow.
@Blackheartvacs3 күн бұрын
Did you get the EBK340 nozzle or the Douglas one? I can't recall the model number for the douglas
@sheriffabdallah32046 күн бұрын
Where is the dirt devil logo
@Blackheartvacs6 күн бұрын
Good eye! I've never noticed it lacking one
@sheriffabdallah32049 күн бұрын
What happened to the headlight
@Blackheartvacs9 күн бұрын
Probably burnt out with no replacements on hand. I don't have the vacuum anymore though
@JBH12314 күн бұрын
I've been using my Can Vac for 30-plus years, and it's been nothing but fantastic. But in the last month it started making a "howling" sound. I took it apart, thinking it might just need a bearing replaced, but I can't figure out how to get any deeper into the motor to find the bearing(s). The howling noise seems to be some sort of resonance coming from the perimeter of the widest part of the motor housing. Any tips or suggestions on what to do next?
@Blackheartvacs13 күн бұрын
I'd guess from what you're describing that it's the front motor bearing. I did do a demonstration of a motor rebuild so these videos may be helpful to you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXi1q2SNrriSp8ksi=0b3dJ_8K1nt2ioMQ kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6CVg2mCi72pkJI Just be sure that when you install new bearing you keep the pressure on the center ring so you don't damage the bearing track
@JBH12313 күн бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs thank you for the reply! I'll definitely take a look at your rebuild video. If I have any success, I'll update again here.
@Blackheartvacs12 күн бұрын
@@JBH123 Best of luck!
@mrbeep809619 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video. Just got one of these used with a year worth of paper bags and I got hepa bags on the way. My reason for getting it is because I like the way it looked and I wanted to look at it's design. But ya after seeing this video and after the few uses I got with it I am already drawing up plans to improve mine. I am a guy who likes to tinker with machines.
@Blackheartvacs19 күн бұрын
What modifications do you have in mind? A better bellows system?
@mrbeep809619 күн бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs Well to start you mentioned that it has poor seal between the bellows and the tube running up to the bag. So at this point I would replace the seal with something better and if possible replace the bellows as well with better bellows. Now second you mentioned some people drill holes into the base plate to allow air to bleed in. I was thinking of doing this or maybe rigging up my own basic height adjustment. Now I haven't taken mine apart yet since I got it. Mostly because I want to use up the paper bags I have still before hand. I am using it more than often to make sure that happens as soon as possible and I am still learning how to 3D print and 3D model which is where I plan on getting height adjustment parts from. These are the planned modifications atm.
@Blackheartvacs18 күн бұрын
@@mrbeep8096 Sounds ambitious. Hopefully it all works out well!
@Muhammadsaifuloh124Ай бұрын
Sirena, ritello,robotaqua,bleugrens,roboclean with the brand I mentioned the vacuum motor is the same
@Muhammadsaifuloh124Ай бұрын
And hyla
@Blackheartvacs21 күн бұрын
Hyla? Like the NST GST? I had heard their latest motor in the EST is brushless. Either way it's pretty pitiful to put a non servicable motor in a water vacuum, people will not take care of them
@ghardt91Ай бұрын
I have the newer R40P also.
@BlackheartvacsАй бұрын
Cool
@VacLabАй бұрын
I have to wonder if I'm one of those "other collectors" who has patience. 😂
@BlackheartvacsАй бұрын
Definitely! :P
@andrewdye7881Ай бұрын
Every time I see one of these vacuums, it brings back childhood memories. My grandma had one of these vacuums, she bought it in 1992. I remember play with it all the time. This is now my dream vacuum. Hoping I'll find one soon
@BlackheartvacsАй бұрын
Neat. Hope you find one!
@heipel20Ай бұрын
Never having personally using one of these, it looks to me like an awkward, fragile overpriced machine. And that motor sounds very loud
@BlackheartvacsАй бұрын
Yeah I'm not a fan. The only reason it stays in my collection is because it's so weird.
@sloggitxtАй бұрын
most random for4-page suggestion, but i like it haha
@BlackheartvacsАй бұрын
Sounds like you get some pretty tame suggestions, lol
@VacLabАй бұрын
This was my wife's vacuum when she was a child back in the 1970's in New York city.
@vacuuman9150Ай бұрын
My Grandparents Had The same one except it was Avocado Green it stopped working in 2006, My other Grandparents have The Kirby Heritage II Legend since 1989. both very good vacuums except i don't think they make parts for the Magicord anymore.
@jbt8922Ай бұрын
How much did it cost and the importation cost?
@BlackheartvacsАй бұрын
Total was 64.85 I went through ebay shipping cost was 23.61
@MyVacuumsAndMoreАй бұрын
I just unboxed that vacuum
@WJCTechymanАй бұрын
Airflow wise the unit matches an old Ridgid wet and dry that VacLab tested, more suction though.
@BlackheartvacsАй бұрын
Right, a single stage motor tends to produce higher flow numbers where multi stage motors sacrifice that for higher lift. In this case we have 2 like 8 amp dual stage motors in parallel. It could be boosted to surpass it's current flow but eh It's mostly a novelty item for me
@Goldenwoodz2 ай бұрын
Is it just me or this vacuum just way too loud? It’s so ear piercing loud, I have one from my grandma. It doesn’t seem to do a good job anymore, bag isn’t really all that full. But I don’t want to get rid of it cause it’s such a vintage gem now. Sometimes it smells like something’s burning, any advice?
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
Hmm i typically associate a burning smell with a belt needing replacement. Does it vibrate excessively when it use? There's always the possibility of a broken fan. They were loud machines when working properly but a broken fan would throw it off balance resulting in both more noise and vibration.
@EP052 ай бұрын
4:29 OMG THAT LOW??? That’s around the CFM of my Atrix Ergo. Luckily I’m planning on upgrading to a ProTeam backpack vacuum over the summer (it also feels weird to me that I have a ProTeam Upright but not a ProTeam backpack as well lmao)
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
Do you actually have figures for the Atrix? I'm curious at how they compare to vaclab's prolux, I think Atrix may be the ones making them. It is quite surprising though they really hype these carbon lites as being their best machine, sure you get more suction but when dealing with straight suction tools your flow is going to be more important.
@EP052 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs well the Atrix has about 106 CFM (I don’t have the stuff to do further testing, I ain’t a pro at this like you lmao), it can also be used as a blower from the other end & good filtration, & I actually had no idea they were involved with Prolux, I know that Lavex has a knock off of the Atrix Ergo in blue with a better harness
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
@@EP05 Well it is just speculation from me, when i look at the prolux and the Atrix VACBPAI model I see a lot of similarities in the form of the machine as well as it's consumables.
@EP052 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs that makes sense
@OhioStatemom19Betty2 ай бұрын
How do you remove it from the battery mine is stuck
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
Hmm....It's been a long while since i tried to remove the batteries.. I probably used a flathead or a curved pick to get them out.
@EvanElevatorExplorer2 ай бұрын
I know that when the vacuum turns on the red bag fills with air
@IWishIDidntExist23332 ай бұрын
These dirty fan vacs are the pretty much the best for deep cleaning.
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
They sure are!
@One-Day-After-Another2 ай бұрын
the vacuum attachment universal 3rd party kit you can get on amazon/ebay ,etc...comes with 12 foot hose, 2 wands and 4 tools...You can pop the wand out....and connect the hose to the vacuum (with or without an adapter) and just clean all over the place without moving the vacuum.. that's what I do...I ignore the on board tools.. I got that kit like 6 years ago.. I think it was like $39...and still use it. I couldn't imagine vacuuming without it... You can get every single area of your house...carpet... ceiling fans... walls... So when I'm watching vacuum reviews and ppl complain about the tools I ignore that part cuz I know I won't be using them anyway .... EDIT... Oh crap... you can't turn the brushroll off? I freaking hate that
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
The only problem with using an extension hose is you lose your airflow the longer the path the more resistance. Nope the brushroll on these is always on, pretty common for commercial machines really.
@One-Day-After-Another2 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs that's absolutely true... but think about it... you're not trying to put sand deep out of carpet when using an extention hose. With my upright... even the hose on the vacuum legnth combined with the 12 foot hose... there's plenty of airflow for dusting, hard floor, walls, crevice... things like that
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
@@One-Day-After-Another Yeah I suppose those tasks don't require a ton of it, unless you're trying to use the turn and clean floor brush. I guess I was more thinking things like upholstery and carpeted stairs
@One-Day-After-Another2 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs the only thing I changed with the attachments that came with the kit was the floor brush... it friction fitted right on the wand...the hard floor brush that came with the kit was just OK... but I had a better one. I feel plenty of airflow/suction/ even though it's somewhat reduced by the length...but still feels like plenty
@kg5vacuums2052 ай бұрын
Nice machine! Is the vac motor you put in from mytee or another manufacturer?
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
Nah it's just an Ametek 112483. I was looking at the private label Mytee LX motor or a Rotovac ZX motor but they were much more expensive and or hard to obtain rotovac doesn't like to outright sell their ZX motor. I think both of them are made by Ametek anyways though.
@ninasadiq73502 ай бұрын
Which Henry family vacuum is the best or are they all the same
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
Well the dry models use the same motor so it's a matter of capacity and included tools amongst James, Hetty, Henry, etc. The Wet/Dry models like George and Charles use a motor that has less airflow but higher suction to allow them to pickup liquids more efficiently.
@les29982 ай бұрын
Nice I have 2 pateiots exactly like tgis. I have the white wessell werk ebk360 that it came wirh. The ither has a black ebk 360. I did change the handle, too. The original handle drove me insane. Nice test.
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
That original stud really creates a lack of flexibility for collectors. The original wand was kinda neat but i'd rather be able to use the machine with various wands.
@les29982 ай бұрын
@Blackheartvacs I found the setup restrictive. It's definitely not made for tall people. I agree on the variety for everyone.
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
@@les2998 I don't recall having issues with the height of the original wand.
@les29982 ай бұрын
It was a fixed height not adjustable.
@les29982 ай бұрын
You calk that a capet cl e aner. Its have a few too many steroids to be calked a shampooer. Very sweet.
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
Well compared to it's original specs sure, but many of the better machines out there utilize two vacuum motors. I considered that but I'm not sure I could fit a 2nd vac motor in it. that and the amp draw.
@les29982 ай бұрын
It's a sweet setup.
@therandomman66472 ай бұрын
I wanna see the brush on that bad boy
@therandomman66472 ай бұрын
:0000
@Blackheartvacs2 ай бұрын
I did show it
@braydencordrey85443 ай бұрын
NIce machine
@stever66973 ай бұрын
Just bought the Elite 700 series to relieve my Miele of overtime use. It's a freaking whale! But, it works alright. Quality is definitely Cleva not Kenmore grade.😥 We will see how long it lasts but, for $190 dollars in "acceptable condition" from Amazon no complaints.
@Blackheartvacs3 ай бұрын
Hmm I've never used one of the 700s, if memory serves they didn't share the inducer motor with the 800 series. Makes you wonder how big the performance gap is between the two.
@IWishIDidntExist23333 ай бұрын
Ngl, it sounds like my mom's old mixer.
@vacuumtests92253 ай бұрын
Now this is very good! Very close to my Nilfisk GM80.
@nmvac823 ай бұрын
Interesting they went smaller motor. Older models were like 10 amps and this one is 7.5 amps? Is that correct?
@Blackheartvacs3 ай бұрын
The tristar cxl/dxl were both rated for 7.5 as is this patriot but they clearly use a little bit more power. This uses around 1032 which is around 8.5-9 amps with the hose only where Vaclab's tristar CXL used a little more at 1150 watts
@nmvac823 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs interesting that’s only 118 difference.
@Blackheartvacs3 ай бұрын
@@nmvac82 yup but this motor has about the same amount of suction compared to vaclab's testing with stronger airflow to it. It's impressive when you consider it uses slightly less electricity
@Bob-ml1mv3 ай бұрын
My aunt has the same vacuum only blue hood. My mom had the same vacuum only ours had the head light 💡.
@Blackheartvacs3 ай бұрын
The convertible was a pretty long lived model which came in a variety of colors and different features. I've had quite a few over the course of my life I think the only duplicate model i've had was the 35 which is green. Odd to find two of them in such nice shape.
@bob37823 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacswas this a two speed? I think my mom s was two speed. When you plug the hose in the amps bumped up
@Blackheartvacs3 ай бұрын
@@bob3782 Hmm I can't remember I sold it off
@therandomman66473 ай бұрын
It would be your favorite if you had a power drive model, but the system usually needs work before being functional. I hated mine until I got it dialed in. Now it is by far my favorite vacuum.
@Blackheartvacs3 ай бұрын
Nah, I have had the power drive models before. It's not a bad machine it's just not my favorite.
@barryrutter59363 ай бұрын
Brilliant tool cut down my vaccuming on my backpack vaccum with a 62ft lead 25 mins to vaccum a building instead of 1hr 30 mins having a good airflo can achieve this
@barryrutter59363 ай бұрын
A tool for speed cleaning and better productivity
@Blackheartvacs3 ай бұрын
yup!
@China112234 ай бұрын
my step dad has one of these and we were trading out the old bag for a new one but the safty feture isnt letting us use the new bag... any tips?
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
hmm been a while since i had one of these but...was there a springy like clip at the top of it? I'd guess that's whats preventing it from closing make sure your bag is attached to that properly.
@China112233 ай бұрын
I did use the clip and had the bag flush with the suction hole. we followed all the directions in the instruction manual but still cant get it to close...
@Blackheartvacs3 ай бұрын
@@China11223 Hmm Afraid I don't know then sorry.
@terrimeyer779328 күн бұрын
@China11223 having the same problem 😢
@China1122328 күн бұрын
@@terrimeyer7793 my stepdad eventually figured it out, but i dont really know what he did
@BimmerFix4 ай бұрын
From all the vacuums you tested, which one has the max cfm and suction?
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
It would depend on where the sample was taken. At the cleaner head the royal 3000 had the highest flow. at 167.48 cfm. Suction wise i'm unsure for the cleaner head, but feel it may be the Dirt devil ultra mvp which i think got around 60" Hose-wise 136" from the beam 2900.
@BimmerFix4 ай бұрын
@Blackheartvacs ohh my bad I should've mentioned that im looking for a canister vacuum. Is anything better than Sebo D4 in terms of suction/airflow?
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
@@BimmerFix Ah, the highest nozzle flow i've seen from a canister would be the Patriot p3 with a Sebo ET1. 96.59 CFm I took those readings prior to making videos. It's a solid machine but lacks a lot of modern bells and whistles.. Those are also available with the more aggresive but less airflow efficient Wessel Werk EBK360. I Know it's a little outdated by this point but....kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqqqZaV8o6eop7c
@FrenchFryCheese044 ай бұрын
It finally arrived and I added new parts to it :)
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
Excellent. Glad someone will be getting some use out of it.
@FrenchFryCheese044 ай бұрын
Yeah the roommates are nice and my dad likes them
@BigEightiesNewWave4 ай бұрын
Even though TTI owns the brand, and many other well liked/performing brands, such as Milwaukee, Hoover is assembled here in USA, which I like. Headquarters are in NC, too which is cool. Some Milwaukee power tools are also made here.
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
Huh, I had no idea that they owned Milwaukee.
@VacLab4 ай бұрын
While it might not be worth the effort, it would be cool to see my double hole box working at your place. 😁
@ralph54504 ай бұрын
Hey Bob. I thought you said your wife got white carpets.
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
Bob? I think you have me mistaken for someone else
@ralph54504 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs oh yeah. Bob's your uncle.
@derellscott66954 ай бұрын
Is this vacuum for sale?
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
It was, someone snapped it up 20 mins after posting it.
@derellscott66954 ай бұрын
You post it on eBay or Facebook?
@SFBenjaminK4 ай бұрын
is super pricey no one really buying it , thats why no reviews on YT & all ,personally never pay that much over 3-$400 for regular home vacuuming, ...i guess wind tunnel Hoover , brissell & Shark dose the GREAT job for years for me no issues & Bought them form Costco & i paid under $250 for them
@daltanionwaves4 ай бұрын
Those vents are obviously openings to cool off the electric motor
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
I had to double check it but the vents on the orange part shown at around :46 don't really do anything they don't release exhaust air nor does there seem to be a relief valve which is what i thought they would have been for.
@karendefeo51984 ай бұрын
Any secret to finding bags for these? I have a Dutch tech dtx1200 that I LOVE but can no longer find them anywhere. You mentioned I could import them in the video - could you share a site link with me - please
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
I guess locating new old stock would be the secret to it but that's always a hit and miss type of thing. As for importing bags.... Hepa: www.ebay.com/itm/276388782061 Paper: www.ebay.com/itm/153406585784 there are other brands and quantities on there too if you care to look I just searched for Philips oslo+ bags.
@theloneone3815 ай бұрын
I got the same vacuum, but the only real downside to these, you can't get a powerhead for it.
@Blackheartvacs5 ай бұрын
Well there was the DX version which had a powerhead. I think the main weakness of this machine was the bags the collar isn't very secure against the inlet and the quality of the bags is pretty meh
@FrenchFryCheese045 ай бұрын
Are those parts still available or going to be sold in the future?
@Blackheartvacs5 ай бұрын
Still available I've just not gotten around to listing it anywhere
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/145702659852
@FrenchFryCheese044 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs awesome! I just bought it and this will work perfectly with my roommate that i took apart ages ago
@Blackheartvacs4 ай бұрын
@@FrenchFryCheese04 Oh so that was you lol! I'll get it shipped out tomorrow after work.
@FrenchFryCheese044 ай бұрын
@@Blackheartvacs alright
@jbt89225 ай бұрын
I wish they would bring back the Pixie and put hose on it for above floor cleaning like the Agogo cordless
@Blackheartvacs5 ай бұрын
I had to look that up lol. I was like wait the Hoover pixie? The Pixie/Steward was a machine with pretty good performance for it's size IMO. But yeah odd that the less powerful cordless machine got a hose while it didn't
@jeroentabor47605 ай бұрын
I am Dutch and I grew up with 2 of these at home! They were really common in Netherlands like 1 of 8 households had these machines! Really competing with Miele for the luxery vacuums! After this version came the Vision Excel from Philips with 425 airwatts, which evolved in the Philips specialist series vacuums, to the Performer series with 550-600 airwatts and even in 2024 there is a model which is the great great grandson from this vacuum
@Blackheartvacs5 ай бұрын
i'm so used to them being an uncommon sight that it's so odd to me to imagine them being everywhere like that. I did take a look at their UK website and noticed the one bagged machine they had listed has been discontinued.
@jeroentabor47605 ай бұрын
Yeah Philips only sells in the european market in the 2 pin plug countries! And Asia, the newer vacuums are not that great anymore :(
@Blackheartvacs5 ай бұрын
@@jeroentabor4760 Okay, so the UK site wasn't an ideal place to see their lineup then? I'm not too familiar with different styles of plugs. Hmm yeah that's unfortunate but pretty typical of most manufacturers most brands "Aren't what they used to be."