The old oldest police force chestnut. Thames Division formed 1800. However Canterbury Cathedral " constables " formed 1300. Not forgetting HM Revenue and Customs / tax inspectors / collectors / anti smugglers in various forms from around 1210 +
@andymcevoy20809 ай бұрын
I enjoyed that thanks for making it. !!
@robnewman6101 Жыл бұрын
I have the Hardback Book called The Railway Policeman. The Story of the Constable on the Track.
@rayw3294 Жыл бұрын
Story, Dundee railway, Old entrance. Late wife, and others. We were Tartan army. And railway lot. They got to smoke in old entrance. One of us dropped a fag on the old entrance. My late wife who was a conductor just was totally observant. Seen smouldering. Then 6 or more of us pissed on it. Nobody noticed apart from 1 who didn't smoke, on the platform. We put it out in 2 minutes he said. Then the SNP, banned smoking bars. Then minimum pricing. Then spy cameras. Then THEY STOLE FROM THEMSELVES.
@geoffhunter7704 Жыл бұрын
Thomas Bouch was the Engineer of the St Andrews Railway in 1855-58 as well as the Crieff Junction Railway too.
@dardilly1 Жыл бұрын
What is this place " Lokee" ?
@davidjohnson00001 Жыл бұрын
It is spelt Lochee.
@mo.BDV-492 жыл бұрын
For the first 6 years of my life I lived just up the road in Leonard St I used to hear the train going and coming in the night
@LittleKitty222 жыл бұрын
The shock over what happened must have really gotten to Sir Thomas Bouch - he looks like an old man in the pictures but since he died at the age of 58, he can only have been in his fifties when the pictures were taken. And for him to have to rest and then still die, apparently from a cold - gosh, the shock must have been tremendous. Very well presented video. I've been over both the - modern day - Tay Bridge and the Forth Bridge when traveling to Dundee (I'm in England) some years ago. Even now, folks are aware of the Tay Bridge disaster - everyone on the train went quiet while we were on the Tay Bridge, and we were all relieved when we made it to the other side in one piece. These bridges are indeed very long and it's no fun being on there, being aware of how easily the forces of nature can be destructive.
@rossco292 жыл бұрын
I was at Dundee Taybridge Station and I moved location to Broughty Ferry and and Tay bridge Riverside that day 🙂
@michealtaylor77452 жыл бұрын
Just heard of this on Upstairs, Downstairs. Terribly sad, though I enjoyed watching this & learning about it.
@YARROWS92 жыл бұрын
Hope they finish this line sometime, all the way to Grantown on spey. This would make it one of the best in the country. Just that final journey. Please help if you can. Come on rich business types. 👊👊👊👏👏👏
@bertmeinders67582 жыл бұрын
Thomas Bouch had the misfortune to inherit 35',000 in shares in Hopking, Gilkes and Co of Middlesborough, and 100,000 pounds in loan guarantees, after the death of Edgar Gilkes. The company was in financial difficulty, probably due to a well-deserved reputation for bad workmanship and conr-cutting, and if it failed, Bouch woukd be bankrupt. Desperate to avoid this, he gave them the contract. It's likely that the cost had been underestimated, as expensive work like facing the columns, reaming the bolt holes for fitted bolts, and facing the nuts and bolt heads (all essential for structural integrity) was not done, and majur flaws and blowholes were "remedied" with filler. The design of the columns was bad, with braces loading cast iron lugs in tension.... All of this was Bouch's responsibility, but neither he nor his (inexperienced) appointed subordinates seem to have spent much time supervising the foundry work. A modern parallel might be the collapse of the CTV building, killing 115, in the 2011 Christchurch earthquake.
@robnewman61012 жыл бұрын
The Custodian Helmet is the headgear traditionally worn by male police constables and sergeants while on foot patrol in England and Wales. Officers of all ranks in most forces are also issued a flat, peaked cap that is worn on mobile patrol in a vehicle. Ranks above sergeant wear the peaked cap only. However, some Inspectors wear the Custodian Helmet, but with two silver bands around the base (to match the two pips worn as rank insignia) to denote their position. Claimed by some sources to have been based on the spiked pickelhaube worn by the Prussian Army, it was first adopted by the London Metropolitan Police in 1863 to replace the "stovepipe" top hat worn since 1829. In 1863, the Metropolitan Police replaced the previous uniform of white trousers, swallow-tailed coat and top hat in favour of very dark blue trousers, a more modern button up tunic and the early type of helmet which had an upturned brim at the front and a raised spine at the back, running from the bottom to the top of the helmet, which became known as the "cockscomb".
@robnewman61012 жыл бұрын
British Transport Police / Founded on the 1st January 1949.
@acquiesce1002 жыл бұрын
Will one of the drivers train me to drive a DMU if I pay you!!!
@terryfrancis51352 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and narrative , however music overkills would rather have natural sound of the elements
@acquiesce1003 жыл бұрын
What a lovely life driving one of these in the 80s. No horrible boss or coworkers or packed offices. Just you and being one with nature.
@terencewilliammckenna61213 жыл бұрын
Nice
@jantyszka10363 жыл бұрын
A perfectly competent and successful engineer within his limits but he overreached himself with the Tay project, trusting too much in his subordinates and contractors.
@robnewman61013 жыл бұрын
1825.
@robnewman61013 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@flippop1013 жыл бұрын
I wish more KZbin videos were like this one. Very enjoyable, thank you!
@dodgydruid3 жыл бұрын
My aunties used to talk about a charter train they sometimes organised that was something to do with their WI or some other institute with a train to Glamis for a garden party or a run into Dundee or Perth as I think my auntie Bertha Ogilvie was the only car driver of the lot and her tiny old Austin was a bit wheezy. Her mother my aunty Dettie Ogilvie as we called her was an exceptionally rich Perth lady of title who still in the 70's had a butler, a part time cook on the staff and remember getting a right whacking because my brother and I had driven the poor ancient butler mad by ringing the bells all over her huge house and he was old old chap poor bloke. Sadly my aunt Bertha passed when she had a heart attack driving from Perth to Dundee but she was incredibly old herself. My other aunt retired to Alyth to a bungalow a stones throw from the old station. All were students of the family school George Watson's in Edinburgh which back then was a suitable school for ladies. Former MP George Galloway grew up next to Newtyle station I was told, seems he cocked a deaf 'un when they closed the line finally in 80 severing the final link of civilisation to Forfar. It would take little to reinstate the Perth to Forfar line with most the alignment in very good condition, a shame a heritage railway couldn't be formed to do just that thing even if it was just a line from Forfar to Coupar Angus or Coupar Angus to Perth, since the railways have gone those towns dependent on them have withered, decayed with little growth and it used to be a pride thing where berries or taters from Blairgowrie loaded midday would be on the markets next morning in England but even local hauliers like Christen Salvesan have long abandoned the area as they used to haul from stations up into Braemar and other remote towns.
@itstime64953 жыл бұрын
The transport police are scum. not even a proper home office police force.
@rossco293 жыл бұрын
If I want to volunteer the Strathspey railway my choice I would take a network line on Scotrail or my own car to drive from Dundee to Aviemore as a engine driver for both Steam and Diesel
@grahamnancledra70364 жыл бұрын
Lovely documentary about the line from a Scots point of view. It's a great line that needs up-grading. I've travelled the line 4 or 5 times. Now I'm from the other end of the nation from you (Cornwall). I have the same feeling if they announced all the trains in Cornish and English. There would be uproar. By the way Harwarden is actually pronounced "Harden". I too heard the announcement in Welsh that said "Har-war-den". I think that announcer was Southern Welsh and not Northern Welsh. Anyhow, Now Wales English speakers all sound like Scousers to me. I like your way of telling a story; Perhaps some time, you'll make your way down to Cornwall and see our main line from Saltash to Penzance and enjoy our branchlines to Looe, Newquay, Falmouth and ........ the best little line in the World, St Erth to St Ives. (😉) My home line.
@leonmarkrodziewicz2794 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed both your documentaries on this. Although I knew about the disaster, this has considerably broadened my knowledge and you have made it feel so much more human.
@penninetrains13984 жыл бұрын
I'm very pleased to be able to award you your one hundredth 'like'. Excellent and very informative video.
@kirkmattoon25944 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, thank you. It humanises a tragedy by giving identity to those who might otherwise be remembered only as statistics. I'm reminded of The Bridge of San Luis Rey, by Thornton Wilder. Something you said on your other Tay Bridge Disaster video has stuck with me. You said the elders of the kirk blamed the passengers. They were travelling on a Sunday, and received their just rewards for such sacrilege, said the top Presbyterians. I thought such stiff-necked intolerance had disappeared from the Christian world long before 1879, but apparently not.
@kirkmattoon25944 жыл бұрын
I came to this after reading the report of the Tay Bridge Inquiry commission, and after watching your other outstanding video on that disaster, in hopes of seeing some of Bouch's other work, and in particular the Beelah viaduct in the North of England. It isn't mentioned, but so many of his projects are that I can see how some would get left out. He appears to have been constantly at work planning new projects and overseeing work in progress, so it's not as surprising as it might be that The Tay bridge was poorly done. He may have just bitten off more than he could chew. He trusted his subordinates, some of them with little knowledge or practical experience, to do work that he might well have done were he not busy designing the Forth bridge. Commissioner Rothery mentions the Beelah viaduct (it is now spelled Belah) as a successful, very strong design which might well have provided a model for the Tay bridge superior to the one eventually arrived at. You mention that Bouch was known to bring in projects more cheaply than other engineers - a reputation bound to attract the railway companies - and in fact the Beelah viaduct was considered notably inexpensive. But Rothery was struck by Bouch's answer to the question why the Beelah design wasn't used: it would have cost too much. So penny-pinching on the part of the railway company may have been one more cause of the bridge's failure.
@peterbond80254 жыл бұрын
Oh dear. Here's a man who knows almost nothing about his subject. So many mistakes it hurt to listen. Please stick to a subject you have a remote grasp of next time. This certainly won't be anything to do with railways.
@thebrightsideofthemoon58294 жыл бұрын
Honestly? What is he wrong about?
@andrewcowling58044 ай бұрын
I found this interesting and it had a track plan of the most interesting part I visited many years ago. The carriage sidings that shot off right at the end of the platform which I was convinced was in the middle of the platform. That’s what memory does for you in old age. Thankyou
@zoomer19794 жыл бұрын
Was OK except or the 8 minutes off festival drivel in the middle. Railway history is what the title says.
@vat69man20024 жыл бұрын
This documentary was beautifully made and filled in so many gaps in my knowledge. I am from Dundee, born in 1934 and heard stories of the disaster, but none that brought home the tragedy so much. I have crossed the new bridge often as many have.
@josephmarrison46064 жыл бұрын
Pity the engine was scrapped. It would have been a historical thing to preserve. Hope someone builds a replica at one point. I wonder what happened to the 29 bodies too.
@geoffhunter7704 Жыл бұрын
The NBR had thought to preserve "the Diver" but for economic and reputational reasons decided to scrap her as she was worn out.
@arthurduncan59994 жыл бұрын
In 1953 at the age of 7, I had a nightmare. I lived in Dundee and within 1/2 a mile from the bridge. I was standing on the sandbanks looking at the wrecked train. One of the women that died was Elizabeth Milne, I found out later that my grandmother and her sister was related to the Milnes and were named after Elizabeth. I still get the nightmare and I'm now 73.
@india-skyecharlton93144 жыл бұрын
That you had that nightmare at the age of 7 is very strange, like a distant memory through your ancestors and their relations. Thanks for sharing and I hope the nightmare stops. My Dad is 80 and lives near Aberdeen. I must ask him what he knows of this disaster.
@arthurduncan59994 жыл бұрын
@@india-skyecharlton9314 Re-incarnation?
@arthurduncan5999 Жыл бұрын
Now 76 and diagnosed with cancer. Just before I was entering the operating theatre I could feel a cold hand in mine. Elizabeth is still with me.
@allandesoer76724 жыл бұрын
Brilliant film. One of the best I have seen on KZbin, if not the best. Great footage and informative history behind it. Went to Scarborough as a child, a long time ago, and this re-wakened my memories. Iv'e been since but this really brought my childhood back, Many thanks.
@jameswillson76355 жыл бұрын
Loved going on the dmu's watching the driver work and see the route ahead. Pity that you can't do it today
@IzzGriff5 жыл бұрын
This guy is related to me i can’t remember how but he’s related to my Nan and so ye so frickin weird tho How he’s related to me: great great great great uncle
@danielferstendig5 жыл бұрын
omg donald and douglas
@jimpetrie61035 жыл бұрын
the tower on the video is not the clock tower it is a water tower i worked here for 41 years
@TheRailways0075 жыл бұрын
Never a water tower , a clock
@jimpetrie61035 жыл бұрын
@@TheRailways007 i used to wind this clock up twice weekly and i can assure you it has nothing to do with the tower .the clock is at platform level . the water tower is further up on platform 4. the clock was wound up from inside the down centre signal box which was situated at the dock end of platform 5
@TheRailways0075 жыл бұрын
@@jimpetrie6103 you have no clue the clock was removed long before you where alive, platforms 1,2,3,4 where no even there ? The old platform would be now 5,6,7 do your research like I have, Jim !
@TheRailways0075 жыл бұрын
Water for what, you were not a live when that was a clock mate
@jimpetrie61035 жыл бұрын
@@TheRailways007 if it wasnt a water tower why is there a massive zinc tank in the top part ive seen it and it bears a water companys logo. the steps up to the tower have been closed for years due to being a safety hazard
@sandeebeech33905 жыл бұрын
Great documentary, beautifully shot and researched. This tragedy is humanised by telling the story of the victims using their names and giving details of their backgrounds as too often from the past we only hear about numbers and forget the people. Its quite shameful that the memorial took 134 years to erect and relied on charitable donations, I imagine if all the victims had been of a higher social class then a memorial would have been erected far sooner. Its unbelievable to think that no one was held accountable for this catastrophe and brought to justice either.
@Commentator5415 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I stumbled upon your channel.
@Commentator5415 жыл бұрын
Sooooo goooood
@Preppycousinsareslay5 жыл бұрын
Ninewells junction, I remember it as if it was yesterday. Living at Ninewells, I crossed the railway regularly to get to the cliffs by the beach. Happy days!
@kevinhmr5 жыл бұрын
Great film, very interesting and informative. Thank you :-)
@thaich335 жыл бұрын
What service was being cancelled? People want to know man
@craigbrown38705 жыл бұрын
8:30 Hello Percy
@BADBHOY036 жыл бұрын
Nice 👏👏👏👍
@stephenfrench10606 жыл бұрын
I remember walking from what i gather on the video the weaverly inverleith line that went under the new town and came out at the bottom of dundas street not only that