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@josephdiaz2182
@josephdiaz2182 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jimmyzamorano9849
@jimmyzamorano9849 2 жыл бұрын
Psalm 119:14 (New King James Version) I have rejoiced in the way of Your testimonies, As much as in all riches.
@kevingomez8735
@kevingomez8735 2 жыл бұрын
A true demagogue
@jacquesvz31
@jacquesvz31 3 жыл бұрын
My mother told me to watch this. As an addict I couldn't have bothered more at the time. Today I watched this for the first time. And I've never cried like this in a long time. Thank you sir
@annanthony23
@annanthony23 4 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT!! Thank you.
@nicholasr82
@nicholasr82 4 жыл бұрын
This is not true. The law was enforced if two or three witnesses witnessed the act of adultery. There is a landmark in Israel where this law, was carried out as God demanded it should be to remove the evil from among the people and the land otherwise, these things become more and more appealing due to the lack of punishment and the Scott free reward to the flesh. The place where this law was administrated, has hundreds of finger bones they dug up when excavation was carried out where the people covered their faces from the stones and it lobbed some of the fingers off. Also where pebbles of various sizes that had been thrown, hundreds and hundreds of them. So Jacobs whole stace is greatly wrong and proven so. They were trying to catch Jesus out because he was talking so much about forgiveness and they wanted to see if he would disobey God's written commands over his forgiving heart. Well, Jesus firstly got rid of the two or three witnesses which was required to uphold this charge so that there was no one to accuse the women. Let's also remember that there is no mediation from Jesus unless there is repentance. This women had seriously learned how pathetic she was for doing what she did. And now she was going to die for it. I truly believe that if this women was not at all convicted and was as bold as brass she would have been stoned.
@ttzz175
@ttzz175 3 жыл бұрын
Yahweh is the beast
@Campcrystal1
@Campcrystal1 4 жыл бұрын
They will need some Jack daniels.......lol
@kennybelfast982
@kennybelfast982 5 жыл бұрын
He's approaching the subject from a faulty Dispensational perspective. It's not that the Church has replaced Israel; it's that true Israel must now be understood as God's people in Christ. Covenant standing can only be avowed by those who are born of the Spirit. The old has passed away, all things have become new. Neither Jew nor Gentile, but one new man. The Jews of the land today have no determination to be obedient to covenant righteousness which is a mandatory requirement necessary for perpetual property rights. They are as secular and unholy as any other government in the world today. What we have with Talmudic Zionist Israel is a counterfeit anti-Christ system that claims the promises of Abraham, but wants absolutely nothing to do with the seed of Abraham, Jesus Christ. of whom the promises pertain. The Jewish nation, by the destruction of the temple in 70 AD lost its covenant right as the legitimate representative of the land. The people who occupy Palestine at the present time, regardless of who they claim themselves to be, have no more biblical right to that land than the Romans, Ottomans, or the British who once had control over it. The issue of the land will only be resolved at the coming of Christ at the end of this age, at the resurrection of the dead
@agil151
@agil151 5 жыл бұрын
Romans 10:1 Paul concludes that he hopes all Israel will e saved. Jews don’t even believe in Jesus but we need to take the gospel to them
@dontate9984
@dontate9984 5 жыл бұрын
And always remember, the Bible has NO contradictions, only "difficulties." Of course, the huge predominance of New Israel scriptures speaks volumes. The other few verses look like pro forma disclaimers, quite possibly added by later redactors. Fodder for cherry pickers.
@Stepthatway6
@Stepthatway6 5 жыл бұрын
What a crowd full of antiChrist
@Stepthatway6
@Stepthatway6 5 жыл бұрын
This man should be ashamed of himself. All of this is based on political opinion, a pathetic one at that. I don’t completely agree with Dr. sizers politics but his theology is pretty much spot on.
@Xplode101
@Xplode101 5 жыл бұрын
this testimony got me saved a few years ago...
@robertpannell480
@robertpannell480 5 жыл бұрын
Can Paul Wilkinson even call himself a Christian?
@edeancozzens3833
@edeancozzens3833 6 жыл бұрын
Want to see who is really doing the propaganda...The Israelis are the propaganda pros of all of history. What Israel is doing to Gaza is worse than apartait. It is genocide. kzbin.info/www/bejne/moGTXoylna-FY8k
@edeancozzens3833
@edeancozzens3833 6 жыл бұрын
This guy is a narrow-minded anti-Jesus bigot. I'm not listening to any more.
@edeancozzens3833
@edeancozzens3833 6 жыл бұрын
Gary Burge is now at Calvin.
@edeancozzens3833
@edeancozzens3833 6 жыл бұрын
That which has caused Sizer to do what he does is the teachings of Jesus. Dah. Wilkinson really should check those out.
@edeancozzens3833
@edeancozzens3833 6 жыл бұрын
Sizer is a hero of the Christian faith, because he stands with Jesus and the Gospel bringing the love of Jesus to all the people's of the world. What in the world is wrong with that? Isn't that what we are supposed to do? I've only read ZION'S CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS? and it is one of the best books on the subject, and very biblical and historically correct. Every Christian should read it. And the speaker in this clip is critical of Stephen visiting and being friends with Christians in Palestine. Is this man an idiot? Doesn't seem to be much into living out the teachings of Jesus.
@edeancozzens3833
@edeancozzens3833 6 жыл бұрын
Stephen Sizer has had a career as a vicar in the Church of England. Compared to this talk it is now 70 years. Dear God, isn't that long enough?
@edeancozzens3833
@edeancozzens3833 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, this past week I met Stephen Sizer in person at the Christ at the Checkpoint USA. Stephen's talks will be posted on KZbin soon under Christ at the Checkpoint. The website for the conference is www.catcusa.com
@lengregorio6647
@lengregorio6647 6 жыл бұрын
Where's the biblical response?
@drumsanddrumming8289
@drumsanddrumming8289 6 жыл бұрын
O.M.G... I can't watch the whole thing! I thought you said you were going to present (or try to as best you could...) a 'Biblical Response...' (well you failed miserably). Your arguments against Sizer are the weakest cordial I've ever tasted. If this is the best Christian Zionism can put up.... you've lost already... praise God.
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh 4 жыл бұрын
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews? A: Mat 21:43 - Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST. 1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha. DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED? There is only one door and it is Jesus and any Jew who rejects Jesus is rejected of God.
@Fyodor48
@Fyodor48 6 жыл бұрын
I love this man in The Lord, had the privilege of being in his company a few times recently, what a saint, truly blessed I believe
@promaster1351
@promaster1351 6 жыл бұрын
abortion is nothing more than child sacrifice on the altar of Baal and then means today are only a little bit more cleanly than just tossing them into burning fires and hearing the screams. both ways are disgusting and pure satanic.
@truthtellermom462
@truthtellermom462 6 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@jameslevitt7313
@jameslevitt7313 6 жыл бұрын
I am glad to see most of the comments on this video show that people don’t believe this weak argument...I would like them to debate.
@smashmouth1001
@smashmouth1001 7 жыл бұрын
Those defending the unregenerate apostate and deceiver, Sizer are total dupes. THE BIBLE PLAINLY TEACHES GOD REGATHERING ISRAEL IN UNBELIEF, BRING THEM UNDER THE ROD, AND THEN RESCUING THEM FROM ALL THEIR ENEMIES AND THE ANTICHRIST. You who claim to be Christians, and yet don't believe this, and side with a LIBERAL are STUPID.
@Isthislife2135
@Isthislife2135 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for posting this. god bless.
@joyceruserious7920
@joyceruserious7920 7 жыл бұрын
Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE body...zionists, however, claim TWO groups. Zionists reject the cornerstone Jesus, and are rebuilding the wall of separation. Zionists have a false way of interpreting the Bible. Zionists revert to the old covenant in the Old Testament, because they reject the New Testament of the blood of Christ as having redeemed his people on the cross. Do we believe the words of Christ and His Spirit filled apostles? Do we have ears to hear what is spiritually discerned and do we have one hope for eternal life in the kingdom of God? Or are we, like the Pharisees waiting for a carnal kingdom? Jesus said Luke 17:20 the kingdom of God is not coming as something that can be observed and His kingdom is not of this world....why don't zionists believe Jesus?
@joyceruserious7920
@joyceruserious7920 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing how zionists are so blind to the accomplishments of Christ not understanding the new. Covenant supersedes the old there are two covenants Gal 4 the first and the second Hebrews. This man is dual covenant heresy. Spirit supersedes carnal flesh. One plan of redemption Jesus Christ no other way. Apostle Paul explains Christ the new covenant the Holy Spirit is the architect of the new covenant. Read the Bible. The only two types of people in the Bible are believers verses unbelievers .Israel was always a mixed multitude nota bloodline. What gospel does this man believe will save this old covenant people who trample the precious blood of Christ the same as they did in the past? He who has not the Son has not the Father either...just read the Bible and let it speak the truth and you will have the truth.Drop the error of dual covenant Darbyism.
@paul.malcomson5709
@paul.malcomson5709 7 жыл бұрын
Wilkerson's fight is with Scripture. Sizer is correct. See below: The Bible clearly and repeatedly shows that we (the Church of Jesus Christ throughout the world) are the true Jews, the true circumcision (Romans 2:25-29, Philippians 3:3 and Colossians 2:11) and the true Israel (Romans 11:17, Romans 11:24-25 and Ephesians 2:10-19) and the true children of Abraham (Romans 4:11, Romans 4:16-18, Romans 4:13-15, Romans 9:6-8, Galatians 3:7-9, Galatians 3:12-14, Galatians 3:16 and Galatians 3:26-29) today. We have been grafted in! Scripture makes clear that upon salvation we become citizens of the heavenly Jerusalem (true Jerusalem), which is also called Mount Zion (or God’s Sion). We see this in Matthew 21:42-46, John 3:3, Romans 9:33, Romans 11:26 Ephesians 1:3, Ephesians 2:4-6, Philippians 3:20, Hebrews 12:22, 1 Peter 2:5-10. These unambiguous, explicit and repeated Scripture make that abundantly clear.
@yaw13851
@yaw13851 7 жыл бұрын
All I can say is wow what a man of God he explains the scripture so well. God bless him and keep him.
@DavidWoelkechannel
@DavidWoelkechannel 7 жыл бұрын
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the one church first, and also to the one church. Sizer 1:16
@DavidWoelkechannel
@DavidWoelkechannel 7 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. which is right. Jesus or Sizer...Jesus or Sizer.....Jesus or Sizer. So hard to choose which one to believe
@anastasiadoxologia4846
@anastasiadoxologia4846 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading
@meecha59
@meecha59 7 жыл бұрын
So...now I can marry a Jewish woman...convert to Judaism ..go out to the west bank and kick some Arab family out of their home .....sounds like a great idea
@marcyoverby3120
@marcyoverby3120 6 жыл бұрын
meecha59 By why would you do that???????
@paulnavarro3822
@paulnavarro3822 7 жыл бұрын
The Lord is called the "Lion of the tribe of Judah" in the book of Revelation which book was written many years after Jerusalem was "sacked" by the Romans. Mr Sizer, why wasn't he called perhaps, the "Lion of the Church" IF the "church" by then had REPLACED or had TRANSFORMED itself into "Spiritual Israel"? One of my "pet peeves" against Christians is the misinterpretation of Paul's saying: Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Rom 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God. It is obvious that Paul's object of correction is the "ethnic/circumcised" Jew who was erroneously believing that his "ethnic" descent and "religious" rites made him RIGHTEOUS before God. Paul's direct audience were these "ethnic/circumcised" Jews and NOT any Gentiles. Accordingly, the "ethnic/circumcised" Jew was NOT RIGHTEOUS unless he also, was "circumcised" IN HEART, i.e. followed the commands of God. Therefore, any "ethnic/circumcised" Jew who followed the command of God and BELIEVED in his heart on the Lord Jesus Christ would be "the Israel of God". This above ADMONITION by Paul was NOT to nor for the Gentiles for it could not possibly apply to the "uncircumcised". Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. Gal 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace [be] on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. The "Israel of God" are those "ethnic" Jews who are TRUE BELIEVERS at heart in the Lord Jesus Christ. That appellation CANNOT be applied to BELIEVING Gentiles. The "body of Christ" is never referred to as "Spiritual Israel" just as it is never referred to as the "Bride of Christ"; the Christian's "identity" is not "in Israel" but "in Christ". The "church" is NOW made up of BELIEVING Jews and BELIEVING Gentiles "in Christ". It is a "new creature" which is a NEW entity in the world and NOT a REPLACEMENT entity. The Jews are still in existence albeit in the state of UNBELIEF and scattered all over the world; the Gentiles are also still in existence and still in UNBELIEF. Therefore, there are THREE entities in the world today as Paul says: 1Cor 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: If there are THREE entities in the world, 2 in UNBELIEF and 1 in FAITH, and 1 of the 2 is the "Jew", i.e. Israel, then there CANNOT possibly be "Replacement". Israel is STILL in existence but STILL remains in UNBELIEF and STILL scattered all over the world and NOT in a small tract of land in the Middle East. The "Nation" of Israel will not come into existence UNTIL such time as when Christ physically returns to Earth. The only Jews who will be in that "kingdom" will be the TRUE Jews who will have BELIEVED in the Lord Jesus Messiah. All other "ethnic/circumcised" Jews/Israelites who NEVER acknowledged Christ/Messiah Jesus will be EXCLUDED. At THAT TIME God will send his angels to "gather His elect" from the 4 corners of the world and BRING them to the "Land". God WILL RESTORE and SHALL TAKE POSSESSION as Mr Wilkinson rightly says, "at THAT TIME". BUT, it follows that NOW, at THIS TIME, there is no "Nation of Israel" rather there is a "State of Israel" which is made up of UNBELIEVING "Jews" of "mixed nationalities" nor is the current government a GODLY institution for they DO NOT BELIEVE in CHRIST which is what is NEEDED in order for God to be PLEASED with them. They are just a "secular" State like any other with no special favor with God. Heb 11:6 But WITHOUT FAITH [it is] impossible to PLEASE [him]: for he that cometh to God MUST BELIEVE that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. To somehow imply or to command that Christians are to be "favorable" to a people or "State" which is AGAINST God (by not ACKNOWLEDGING His Son) and whom God is currently not "pleased" with is ridiculous. This "State of Israel" is no more FAVORED by God than any other "Nation" which does not BELIEVE in the God of the Bible and His son the Lord Jesus Christ. They are in the SAME category as all other secular "States/Nations" which are in UNBELIEF. They currently have no special or "chosen nation" status. That "chosen people" and "Kingdom" is STILL yet FUTURE; it is not NOW. Until then they are to be treated as any other people or nation or country. If they do good then they should be treated accordingly; if they do evil then they are to be treated accordingly. But to coddle them or favor them, regardless of their evils, based on a supposed "chosen/favored" status WITHOUT FAITH is ludicrous. Mr. Wilkinson keeps saying that God says, "I will, I will, and I will...", and I agree. But THAT will be in the yet FUTURE, not NOW. For NOW they are not God's FAVORED people; they are just a "Mixed Multitude" posing as a "Chosen Race" and TAKING ADVANTAGE of "silly" Christians. 2Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
@truethinker221
@truethinker221 7 жыл бұрын
From reading this i can not tell which side your on , You seem to prove Dr. Sizler's point,with your scripture references and examples.
@paulnavarro3822
@paulnavarro3822 7 жыл бұрын
+truethinker - Who is "the Israel of God"? My argument is that "the Israel of God" is that "remnant" of actual physical descendants of Jacob who have embraced the resurrected Jesus of Nazareth as their Messiah. It is NOT the physical descendants of Jacob who have NOT accepted Jesus as their Messiah. Peter makes that distinction when he says: 1Pet 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM shall not be confounded. 1Pet 2:7 Unto you therefore WHICH BELIEVE [he is] precious: but unto them WHICH BE DISOBEDIENT, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 1Pet 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, [even to them] which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 1Pet 2:9 But YE [are] a CHOSEN GENERATION, a royal priesthood, an HOLY NATION, a PECULIAR PEOPLE; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: The scriptures clearly declare that the LAND promised to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob belongs to the "seed". BUT, who is that "seed"? Is it just flesh descendants of Abraham? What says the scripture? Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they [are] NOT all Israel, which are of Israel: Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed (my note: fleshly seed or line) of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac (my note: the "promised" seed) shall thy seed be called. Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, these [are] NOT the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Mr. Sizer does not believe that God has promised the LAND to the physical descendants of Abraham but rather to a "spiritual" people. As to who those "spiritual" people are, I do not know nor do I believe he knows. But, whomever they may be, for Mr Sizer, no single "ethnic" people, i.e, Jews, can claim the LAND. For him, ALL ETHNIC peoples have a right to the LAND regardless of their religious "beliefs". Mr. Wilkinson believes that the promised LAND belongs to the physical descendants of Abraham, i.e. the ethnic Hebrews. He places no conditions on their claim to the LAND because he believes they are ALL considered the "chosen people/nation" of God as they are often referred to in scriptures. Other than having a physical connection with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, he makes no other qualification for their so called being "chosen". Both men are incorrect in their assessment of the situation in my opinion. Peter and Paul make it clear that "the Israel of God" are those physical descendants of Abraham who have BELIEVED and TRUSTED in God. To be be considered as CHOSEN (referring to Israel only), according to scripture, one must be a descendant of Abraham AND be IN TH FAITH. The FLESH does not inherit the promise; the FLESH are those who come from the line of Abraham but HAVE NOT BELIEVED. The "chosen generation" or "chosen nation", as Peter declares, are NOT the UNBELIEVING/DISOBEDIENT "Hebrews/Israelites/Jews", but the BELIEVING/OBEDIENT "Hebrews/Israelites/Jews" who have placed their TRUST in Jesus the Messiah of YHVH; they are the TRUE circumcision, the "Israel of God" and not just those who descend physically from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The LAND indisputably is promised to the "seed" of Abraham, a physical people. However, are the people who occupy that LAND at the moment OF the "promised seed" of FAITH or just flesh descendants? The answer is quite simple. They are just FLESH descendants for they, as a nation, as a distinct people, do not embrace the Lord Jesus Christ. They are STILL in DISOBEDIENCE and therefore NOT the of the "promised seed". To say that God is working in their favor BECAUSE they are "chosen", regardless of their "State of UNBELIEF", is faulty thinking; to call them "God's Chosen People" despite the fact of their UNBELIEF is an egregious error. We are to "make a difference" when it comes to the word of God. No man, whether Jew or Gentile, can be considered as "chosen" of God UNLESS they are in the "faith of Christ". Heb 11:6 But WITHOUT FAITH [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God MUST BELIEVE that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
@truethinker221
@truethinker221 7 жыл бұрын
The promises land was an allegorical figure for the kingdom of God not an earthly place.
@paulnavarro3822
@paulnavarro3822 7 жыл бұрын
+truethinker - So also says the Roman Catholic Church which denies the literal promises given to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They "allegorize" ALL of scriptures to their personal gain and insist on having man's earthly GOLD and lands. If the "kingdom of God" is just an ALLEGORY , as you say, then Jesus and the Angel, respectively, lied to his apostles when they said he would RETURN. Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. They should have, respectively, at that very instance, explained to them that IT WAS ALL AN ALLEGORY and that they had MISUNDERSTOOD what he had been teaching for at least the past three years! Another one who should have EXPLAINED your "allegorical" position should have been Paul. But he NEVER does. Shame on Paul if the "kingdom of God" is just a "spiritual" ALLEGORY for he NEVER expounds on such a thing. Also, he exacerbates the situation by actually saying that Christ will RETURN again to EARTH. Why return to earth IF it is all an "allegory"? Not only does Paul say Christ will return to EARTH but he actually says IT WILL BE EXTREMELY NOISY. 1Thess 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the COMING of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself SHALL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A SHOUT, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: How is THAT "allegory"? You cannot rightly dispense the word of God by making "allegory" of what doesn't FIT your personal theology. Another unabashed liar would be John who claims to have been given FUTURE revelations by Christ himself INCLUDING his actual return IN WRATH to the EARTH. Rev 22:12 And, behold, I COME QUICKLY; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star. Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. How in the world can there be an "allegorical" wrath on Earth my friend? Who is AFRAID of a "figure of speech" WRATH? No one. Why is it said that he will be coming back to JERUSALEM on the geographical mount of Olives? Why not just say coming back to "Shangrila" which is just as good of an imaginary place as any "allegorical" place? Sir, there are just TOO, TOO many questions to beg of you when you use the ALLEGORY "card".
@truethinker221
@truethinker221 7 жыл бұрын
Paul Navarro ""The promises land was an allegorical figure""" ( you read it wrong) The Kingdom of David was allegorical or topological for the final fulfillment of the promise of the Kingdom of God which is for all mankind. (**we) Through the son of David Jesus the Christ, who reigns forever. Galatians 4;22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 24 Which things are an ** ALLEGORY: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to **Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is **above is free, which is the mother of us all. (Jerusalem which is above) Kingdom ? 27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28 Now *we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of *promise. ? 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
@irvspielberg8950
@irvspielberg8950 7 жыл бұрын
/ Spotted this web piece that viewers of "Left Behind or Led Astray?" desperately need to read! / GFM's DVD Survives Paul Wilkinson's Attack! by Dave MacPherson John Darby defender Dr. Paul Wilkinson dropped some names when beginning his rebuttal of the electrifying "Left Behind or Led Astray?" DVD produced by Joe Schimmel's Good Fight Ministries. And Wilkinson concluded, even before offering any evidence, that the DVD is full of "myths" and "lies"! So I'll start my response to him with the following conclusions, even before offering any evidence, that have come my way: My first book "The Unbelievable Pre-Trib Origin" (1973) received undeserved kudos from "The Witness" (the oldest and largest Darbyist Brethren magazine in England) in April 1974: "What [MacPherson] succeeds in establishing is that the [pretrib] view outlined was first stated by a certain Margaret Macdonald...early in 1830." Later on world-class Australian scholar Dr. F. Nigel Lee (with nine earned doctorates) stated: "Dave MacPherson, in his various books, has made a major contribution toward vindicating Historic Christian Eschatology. The 1830 innovations of the disturbed Margaret Macdonald documented by MacPherson - in part or in whole - immediately spread to Edward Irving and his followers, then to J. N. Darby and Plymouth Brethrenism, and were later popularized by the dispensationalistic Scofield Reference Bible, by Classic Pentecostalism, and by latter-day pretribulationists like J. F. Walvoord and Hal Lindsey." And I haven't even thought of calling anyone a liar yet! While feeling unqualified to respond to some of Wilkinson's points, I will give the following facts: When Hal Lindsey's books see "the one taken and the other left" before the "man of sin" is revealed, we all know he's expressing the "kernel" of the pretrib view. But when Darby defenders read Margaret Macdonald's 1830 pretrib rapture account (where on lines 58-63 we see what I've long said is her main point: "the one taken and the other left" before "THE WICKED" is "revealed"), they sound like Wilkinson who, in his rebuttal, dares to declare that "her utterance bears no resemblance whatsoever to a pre-trib Rapture." Guess how he gets away with this. He stops quoting her at line 45 of her 117-line account and resumes quoting at line 60 and thus can omit quoting the rapture part ("the one taken") of her "kernel." Thomas Ice, Wilkinson's American counterpart, does the same nervy thing. When quoting her account in his 1990 BibSac article about her, he stopped quoting her at line 58 (just before "the one taken" etc.) and resumed at line 72 - and thus censored ALL of her "kernel"! For insights into Ice, Wilkinson should Google "Pretrib Rapture Pride," "Walvoord Melts Ice," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," and (by a British Ph.D) "Be careful in polemics - Peripatetic Learning." Wilkinson even calls Margaret a posttrib and somehow doesn't know that phrases like "The trial of the Church is from Antichrist" (lines 85-86) express her partial rapture view, that all partial rapturists (like Pember and Govett) talk the same way, and that even Walvoord's books describe partial rapturists as "pretribulationists"! (I also urge him to Google "X-Raying Margaret," "Margaret Macdonald's Rapture Chart," and "Pretrib Rapture's Missing Lines." And no one should confuse Margaret with Mary Campell who was involved with telepathy and automatic writing.) When many including Darby visited Margaret in mid-1830, all (except Darby) concluded she was teaching a partial rapture form of pretrib. John Cardale visited the prayer meetings held in the Macdonald home and described them in his Dec. 1830 article in Irving's journal "The Morning Watch" (hereafter: TMW). Cardale listed 17 details about the speakers and what they taught. Amazingly, Darby's 1853 book described his visit to those meetings and listed practically word-for-word all of Cardale's details except one. Although Darby mentioned Margaret's "texts on overcoming" (the "tribulation" part of her "kernel"), he omitted the first half of her pretrib partial rapture "kernel" - what she taught about "the coming of the Lord" (rapture) as the church's "deliverance" before the "judgments coming on the earth" (which all, except Darby, understood as a pretrib separation!). Irving reflected her novel view in TMW in June 1831 when he saw a pretrib rapture in Rev. 12:5's "man child" who's caught up, and described the scene as the "two-fold company - the one gathered before , and the other after the travailing woman is cast out into the wilderness...." Is Wilkinson aware that TMW (Sep. 1830) was the first publication to publicly air pretrib? It saw "Philadelphia" raptured before "the great tribulation" and "Laodicea" left on earth. Meanwhile Darby was still defending posttrib in Dec. 1830 in the "Christian Herald." Darby idolizer Wilkinson was not happy when he heard Joe Schimmel saying that "the evidence is quite clear that Darby and his followers were late-comers to pre-tribulationism and that Darby was quite familiar with pre-trib teaching among the Irvingites before he accepted and then proliferated the doctrine...." Dr. Mark Patterson also states on the DVD that Darby learned the pre-trib rapture from Irving. Here's Wilkinson's knee jerk reaction to Schimmel and Patterson: "The evidence is not only unclear, it is non-existent!" And here's my knee jerk reaction to Wilkinson: My Google piece "Edward Irving is Unnerving" - which mentions Patterson and Walker - proves that the evidence for Irving is existent! Right now let's look briefly at the earliest "rapture" development of the Irvingites and the Darbyist Brethren during the contested period stretching from 1827 to 1839: 1827: A few, including John Bray, have claimed that Darby believed in pretrib this early. But Darby's first two papers (1827 and 1828) discussed only the "heavenly church" and the "church's unity" - and Darby then looked for only the posttrib "restitution" and "refreshing" in Acts 3. (I invite all to Google "Is John Bray a PINO?") 1829: Darby's first paper on prophecy. He expected only the Rev. 19 coming. And he showed Irvingite influence. He mentioned "Mr. Irving" five times, "Ben-Ezra" (Lacunza) once, and "Morning Watch" twice. Darby said he was an avid reader of Irving's works and journal and heard Irving preach. (My "Rapture Plot" discusses Darby on 145 pages.) 1830: Margaret had her pretrib revelation in the spring. TMW (Sep.) reflected her pretrib partial rapturism (church/church dichotomy) and saw worthy "Philadelphia" raptured before "the great tribulation" and less worthy "Laodicea" left behind. Darby was still defending posttrib historicism in Dec. in the "Christian Herald" and waiting for only Matt. 25's "judging of the nations." (Darby discusses TMW four times in his 1830 paper and five times in an 1831 letter. Let me add that from 1830 to 1833 TMW repeatedly taught pretrib and any-moment imminence while Darby was still defending the posttrib view, as my "Plot" portrays.) 1832: Darby still doesn't believe in a future Antichrist but only in "present antichristian principles." 1834: We find Darby and the Jews waiting for the same day (Heb. 10:37). 1837: Darby saw the church "going in with Him to the marriage [Rev. 19], to wit, with Jerusalem and the Jews"! 1839: Darby's first clear pretrib teaching. His pretrib basis then (and many more years) was Rev. 12:5's "man child" caught up before a 3.5-year tribulation - but Irving had been the first one to use this Rev. symbol for the same purpose in TMW in 1831! True, one can find a few minor errors in the "Left Behind or Led Astray?" DVD being discussed because no one is perfect including me. But I believe that as the world gets even more scary and dangerous, more and more pretribbers will overlook any blemishes in the same DVD and will congratulate Joe Schimmel and his group for their foresight and love for God's everlasting truth.
@ninaruthie
@ninaruthie 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sickened by many of the comments here. Clearly anti-Semitism amongst so-called Christians like Edna and such is still horrifically alive. Steven Sizer was disciplined by his own leadership for posting inflammatory pro-terrorist comments, videos and ties.
@marcyoverby3120
@marcyoverby3120 6 жыл бұрын
Nina Ruth Bruno yes .
@tenksu9250
@tenksu9250 6 жыл бұрын
U2bR, how about messianic jews, who believes that God will restore Israel? How can you say to them that you worship same God like they do, but you don't believe in restoration? That sounds like you are a traitor among Jews. Don't you consider important to believe in God who is Interested about you entirely? Not only spiritually but also those parts where you live and which country is your home country. Wasn't God's saving work holistic, where the whole human image will be restored, and cosmos? Aren't cultural, national and material parts in God’s saving work? If those are, then isn't it logical to conclude that God literally restores Israel nation? I recommend you to check Michael l. Brown lectures about Israel. He Is a Jew but also A christian. Then you could get out from that self hating mentality which isn't God's will at all.
@tenksu9250
@tenksu9250 6 жыл бұрын
U2bR, by the way, God didn't give any conditions about Israel land to Aabraham. Where did God say to Aabraham that he and his seeds will lose that land entirely? I can't find that condition when God promised the land for Aabraham. Secondly how do you help fellow Christian Jews/ messianic Jews with their faith and hopes with such unholistic views. I know ex Christian Jews who have Lost their faith because of Stephen Sizer's like replacement theology. Because they started to believe that God isn't interested about their all needs, but only spiritually, Christianity is then fake. At least Judaism believes that God will literally restore Jews and their land. Was it wise to make These people lose faith because of spiritualization? Isn't God capable to restore more than just spiritual part? Like bodies, health, culture, nature and so on. If God can, then restoring Israel and its people literally shouldn't be impossible at all.
@marcyoverby3120
@marcyoverby3120 6 жыл бұрын
Tenksu Thank you Yes Israel will be restored.
@anthonyking675
@anthonyking675 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you , thank you. A bit long, but thank you for nailing it.
@brittanygreen
@brittanygreen 8 жыл бұрын
I would also state that abortion leads to other things. Hitler started his Holocaust with a sex education, birth control and abortion regime. Therefore, this abortion bloodbath (which is global) will move onto more people, and will be more massive. Abortion, then euthanasia, then genocide. Considering that this a global industry, this will be one of the predicators to the Revelation period.
@brittanygreen
@brittanygreen 8 жыл бұрын
I would say, that asking an honest question of Islam would be pretty simple, "Have any of you read excerpts of the Qu-ran? If so, how can you say that is a religion of peace?" There are very few people that have actually read the Qu-ran. But, when Jefferson read the Qu-ran, he actually stated that it was impossible to reason with people such as these, and set up the Navy. I feel bad for the Muslims that are indoctrinated and intimidated into staying into this cult of devils, but I will not excuse the text itself.
@ednasmith8444
@ednasmith8444 8 жыл бұрын
How easy it is to defame one when they are not present to answer for themselves. Proverbs tells us that every story sounds correct until you hear the other side. Far better have the man present for your people to judge for themselves. After hearing him myself, I can detect how you are giving a complete false picture of the man.
@kmoney6156
@kmoney6156 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I can't read the chicken scratch on the screen. I am not a lip reader. The speech is not verifiable. The commentary can not be authenticated.
@markwebb7576
@markwebb7576 8 жыл бұрын
The reason that people don't like the phrase "Replacement Theology" is because the church existed in the Old Testament. In the Torah the church consisted of one ethnicity, the Hebrew people, and under the New Covenant it consists of a people from every tribe and tongue. There is no replacement, only a change in the church through Christ, whereby all peoples who excercise faith constitute the church and not merely those who are ethnically Jewish. This change in the nature of the church is spoken of in Eph.2 where the dividing wall between Jew and Gentile is demolished and the Gentiles are now fellow citizens with their Jewish brothers and sisters.
@bible4truth
@bible4truth 8 жыл бұрын
And because a Jew-el is every precious stone in the temple of God, the Body of Christ, the elect, chief precious Corner Stone (Jew-el). It is a spiritual house built without hands of incorruptible seed (the Word, Spirit) and not carnal Abraham. 1 Peter 2:5Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 2:6Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Such deception for carnal gain. Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world! Yet people just ignored it. Put no confidence in the flesh; yet people ignore it. They tie God's truth to a fake Israel and fake Jews that Satan is heading and mimicking the spiritual temple that will be revealed at the end. Satan is diabolically clever, you got to give him that. Yet his foolishness will be obvious in the end to all.
@nomorewar4189
@nomorewar4189 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Webb a Christians brothers and sisters are fellow Christians NOT those who deny Christ. Any religion including Judaism that deny Christ is the son of God are lost and in need of the Gospel. Do you even know the difference between a Torah Jew and a Talmudic Jew - a Kabbalah Jew and an Orthodox Jew ? Most Christians don't . Have you ever read Revelations 2:9 and 3:9 and wondered who Jesus was referring to and warning us about? Have you ever heard a sermon preached on these two verses ? I doubt that as well. So the Jews are as lost in their unbelief as the Muslims Buddhists etc. Abrahams faith was accounted to him for righteousness. It is faith that justifies a Christian not brotherhood with the unbeliever.
@marcyoverby3120
@marcyoverby3120 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Webb Please show me the scriptures that says that in the O T.
@marcyoverby3120
@marcyoverby3120 6 жыл бұрын
bible4truth The church is called out,the Jews were elect.Read the OT.it is there..Do know how to search out the scriptures for yourself.
@anthonyking675
@anthonyking675 6 жыл бұрын
really good point
@cinlou5804
@cinlou5804 8 жыл бұрын
Bless your heart, who has deceived you? There is no special chosen people left. You are either in Christ or you are not. If you are in Christ you are chosen!!! You are Abrahams seed. If you had a prodigal brother, he would be no less your father's son or your brother, would he? You are a royal priesthood a holy nation of people set apart for his purposes. Or... You are a Zionist,. Are you a zionist? Choose you this day whom you will serve, as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. Zionists are anti-christ, you are unequally yoked with antichrist. Read the great commission, the command Jesus gave to preach the gospel, stick to that! Have you preached the gospel in Israel or Palestine?
@U2Brrr
@U2Brrr 7 жыл бұрын
Cindy williams *AWESOME! You are fellow Royal High Priest unto the Order of Melchizedek UNDER YESHUA!*
@ryangallmeier5987
@ryangallmeier5987 8 жыл бұрын
Who is Real Israel? In answering this question, what is often overlooked is the simple matter of going to the first place in Scripture where the very term "Israel" is used. Hint: Genesis 32. Questions: 1) what does "Israel" mean, according to Scripture? 2) who first gives the appellation "Israel"? 3) who had/has the authority to do this? 4) did Jesus claim this authority in the N.T.?
@ryangallmeier5987
@ryangallmeier5987 8 жыл бұрын
There are all sorts of presuppositional statements and questions that need to be made clear before Christians can even begin to engage in discussing the issue concerning 'Who is real Israel?'. Remember that most Christians who support the thesis that the modern, nation-state that calls itself "Israel" has the pivotal role to play in biblical eschatology, are most likely from the Dispensational Futurist school of eschatology. Their presuppositions (again, before a discussion of 'Israel and the Church' can even take place, these presuppositions must be addressed) are: 1) Belief in a Pre-Trib. rapture. This is the belief that the rapture and the 2nd Advent are two separate and/or distinct events. They are separated by a period of at least 7 years [thus, fulfilling Daniel's 70th week (Dan. 9:24-27)]. One could rightly say that the entire Dispensational Futurist eschatological scheme is based upon their belief that Daniel's 70th week is still seeking future fulfillment. I would deny that it is. 2) Belief in a future fulfillment of Daniel's 70th week (cf. Dan. 9:24-27). This is the belief that while the 69 weeks of Daniel's prophecy were fulfilled in the beginning of the 1st century A.D., the 70th week was separated from the previous 69 weeks, and a gap of time (close to 2,000 years now) was inserted between them. The rapture of the Church will occur before the 70th week begins; the 2nd Advent will occur at the end of the 70th week; nearly the entirety of the book of Revelation will occur during this 70th week (7 yrs.), including the rise of the Antichrist. Again, all this, I would deny. 3) Antichrist is still future. This is the belief that the Antichrist will only arise during the 7 year period of great tribulation, in fulfillment of Daniel's 70th week. This is the doctrine that actually gives rise to the appellation "Futurism". Again, I would deny. The classic, Reformed Confessions of Faith tell us who they thought Antichrist was/is…and I believe they were/are correct in their assessment(s)…I would diligently defend…*from Scripture and history*. 4) That the literal, modern, nation-state that calls itself "Israel," will have the pivotal role to play during this 70th week (7 yrs.). The Temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem at this time; sacrifices will begin; Antichrist will invade it, and claim that he himself is God…etc. I would deny that the Scriptures teach any such thing. 5) Belief in a Millennial reign of Christ *on the earth*. I would deny that the Millennial reign takes place 'on the earth'. Again, before we get to #4 above, we must be able to address the 3 preceding thesis statements/beliefs.
@inTruthbyGrace
@inTruthbyGrace 5 жыл бұрын
Israel is God's ἐκκλησίας(Matt 9:10) Israel is God's people governed by Jesus Christ (Micah 5:2 Matt 2:6) Israel has *_always_* been a mixed multitude (Exodus 12;38-39), first gathered at Mt Horeb in the ἡμέρᾳ ἐκκλησίας (day of the CHURCH).
@John-kv7jo
@John-kv7jo 8 жыл бұрын
Is this a sermon? Sounds like an attack on Stephen Sizer. Firstly he is incorrect when he assumes that some of us believe that the Church has replaced Israel. The position of Scripture is clear, Israel and the Church are one and the same thing. This is why they are called the Church in the wilderness (Acts 7:38). Secondly he is incorrect when he states that both the Church and Israel in the flesh are chosen. Only those born after the Spirit can be chosen and he fails to understand that Israel was derived after the Spirit not the flesh for he came from the loins of Isaac, the son who was born of the promise not the flesh. Stephen Sizer is correct when he states that Jesus came to give us knowledge of the kingdom which is not a fleshly kingdom for He himself states that my kingdom is not of this world. Speaking of Abraham he waited for a city that has foundations whose builder and maker is God. Wilkinson doesn't understand the context of Galatians 6. Paul is quite clear that there is only one people who can fulfil the qualifications of Galatians 6. Galatians 6:15 is quite clear for in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anthing but a new creature. Therefore he is speaking to all believers whether they be Jews of Gentiles who are the new creatures in Christ Jesus. If any man be in Christ he is a new creature, old things have passed away behold all things are new. Therefore I conclude that the context of Galatians 6 is all believers both Jew and Gentile who have put their faith in Christ for salvation. They are the Israel of God for they have fulfilled the rule of that new creature in Christ Jesus. Paul goes onto to state that Sizer is wrong when he says that we should read the OT which Christian eyes. In reality Paul is the one who is wrong for the OT was a shadow and as the Holy Ghost states in Hebrews is ready to vanish away. We have a better covenant established on better promises. We have many types in the OT for example Abraham is a type of Father God for he was the father of many nations. Isaac is a type of Jesus the Lamb of God for he was received from the dead in a figure and we have Jacob who is a type of Holy Spirit for he annointed the pillar of stone with oil. Moses is a type of Christ for he lead the children of Israel out of Egypt. Joshua (Yeshua) is a type of Jesus who passed over Jordan (death) into the promised land. So we the shadow in the old and the fulfillment in the new. 1948 was not a fulfillment of biblical prophecy for the church in the OT was a people after the spirit for they stemed from the loins of Isaac. The people in the land now are of the flesh for that nation was formed by the will of man. The Israel in the Middle East is not the Israel of the Bible. Paul has further missed it when he tries to sell us the lie that we should go back to the fleshly law established on the weakness of a carnal law and accept the promises made to Abraham and his seed. The problem for Paul is that he doesn't mention who the seed of Abraham is. The seed is one not seeds which is Christ and those who are in Christ. So we see that the promises to Abraham are to Christ and his church not a fleshly people. The land from a NT perspective is heaven for here we have no continuing city but we look for that which is to come. Abraham waited for a city that has foundations whose builder and maker is God. This is why the fleshly temple which was a shadow of the Body of Christ and the Temple of the Holy Spirit had to be destroyed for Jesus said destroy this temple and I will raise it in three days for he was speaking of His Body the Church. Therefore it is only through faith in Christ that we can passover death into heaven. The covenants were made for people who are Jewish for it is a spiritual understanding of what a Jew is not a fleshly understanding. As Texe Marrs correctly says it's not race but grace. For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly but he is a Jew who is one inwardly. Therefore from an OT perspective the people of God were Jews inwardly. In the NT the Jew is a term for one inwardly not outwardly for John the Baptist speaking to Jews after the flesh warns them not to say to themselves they have Abraham as their father for God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these very stones. This is fulfilled by lively stones with the resurrection power of the Holy Spirit being the children of Abraham. Paul is lying when he states the the reference in Acts 7:38 is just a gathering. The word there is exclesia which means called out ones the same term used for the church. Therefore we conclude that the Church is the Israel of God in the OT. As 'contemplate' states this guy hasn't a clue of the things of the Spriit. Jnr
@anthonyking675
@anthonyking675 6 жыл бұрын
Jnr: good points. You might throw in a paragraph break every so often to make for easier reading.
@luke8verse21bible4
@luke8verse21bible4 8 жыл бұрын
this person lies ans twist everything sizer said
@marcyoverby3120
@marcyoverby3120 6 жыл бұрын
Luke 8 verse 21 Bible No Paul is just telling the truth.
@JoshuaHults
@JoshuaHults 8 жыл бұрын
" Smith said that since 1973, when the Supreme Court handed down its decision in Roe v. Wade, there's been "well over" 54 million abortions. The Guttmacher Institute has tracked roughly 49.3 million abortions through 2008. "