It's a new hoyo game launched in the dry july of HSR. It just eat HSR and genshin player base that had nothing to spend in it (I mean, how many people really want Jade?). If zzz was launched at peak peacony the revenue would mostly be lower. It's just good planning from mihoyo. Wuwa mobile is horrible. Most people play on PC so I doubt the chart matter in wuwa case. And I think the revenue will be even lower with PS5 realease since more people will flock there.
@eddychong94772 ай бұрын
Neverness to Everness: Ok
@JulioCesar-nm4hn2 ай бұрын
Laundry
@abbyjeydee2 ай бұрын
such a good video!
@foxtaunt2 ай бұрын
I don't think it's a stretch to say that ZZZ reached HSR's first month numbers considering that the 96 million figure doesn't include PS5 or PC, and ZZZ is a more console/pc oriented game than HSR
@doommaker40002 ай бұрын
ZZZ is way more of a mobile game than Genshin and WuWa.
@foxtaunt2 ай бұрын
@@doommaker4000 It reached the top ten played on PS5. HSR is far more suited to mobile than ZZZ. Notice how I was comparing it to HSR lmao
@Onewithoutsense2 ай бұрын
It outperforms everything in july
@KeyserTheRedBeard2 ай бұрын
I hit your thumbs up button on your creation. Looking forward to see more posts from you. Good post, StellaMaytv. Persist in the remarkable work.
@kxrull2 ай бұрын
The TV system is worse. I think they want to make players feel the exploration without 3d space. The only way to make mc felt less bland. Hoyo can make skin for them. But it's hoyo who knows what the next step is. Maybe another stupid cardgame in zzz and said not everyone like the combat endgame in the combat game . Who knows.
@Jak.walrus2 ай бұрын
This is so underrated
@avlis81972 ай бұрын
honestly only issue i got with the TV screens is how slow some of it is, like unlocks doors or un skippable dialogue feels like a drag at times. For characters i love Ellen, have her weapon and her C1 but don’t feel the need to walk around as them. Story is connected together with all the different group/factions so it feels fluid while you play through it. Seeing the characters out in different areas is cool and refreshing. Don’t really get tired of MC as of now bc it’s only for walking around. It’s not like genshin where it’s really open worlds so you can use different characters to traverse and in combat. Think the game is in a decent spot for how new it is
@StellaMaytv2 ай бұрын
I agree. It's just to me, I guess, spending so much on these characters feels frustrating. Out of all the popular gachas, in zzz, I feel like I don't own them with how little you get to play with them. So this just makes me less likely to want to spend as much, outside of what I need to just clear endgame.
@saiwaqa25732 ай бұрын
In 11 days zzz made 52 mil just off mobile. The problem with your "shock" is you can't see past the west. The west never contributes more than 8-10% of hoyo games revenues. Cn, JP, are the countries that contribute the largest to hoyo games. Drama is only ever on the west. Learn to see past the west, their irrelevancy is real.
@cloud3802 ай бұрын
zzz already made 55 mil in 11 days and wuwa jiyan + yinlin + first days of jinshi 44 mill in whole month
@investinfastudios2 ай бұрын
The problem is once you get to lvl 35, there’s not as much to do. They need to amp up the content. Also I hope you get Ellen. She is the best character in the entire game and so much fun to play.
@hessianqrow79772 ай бұрын
I'm guessing the Tvs are a nightmare on mobile they're fun on PS5 😅
@hijodelsoldeoriente2 ай бұрын
The reason why any Hoyo game will outperform any other gacha regardless if their games are objectively or subjectively good or bad are: 1.) The Hoyo branding. 2.) The Marketing. 3.) The huge fandom And most importantly 4.) The aggressive gacha monetization. Meanwhile, the likes of of WuWa or Limbus Company which has a more pro-consumer gacha monetization and systems won't earn as much due to those systems. That's the same reason why comparing revenue charts will always be moot. Unless they have the same monetization systems. Keep in mind, higher revenue doesn't necessarily mean a better game. So this question of "who will win?" is extremely asinine.
@eldorado-r9t2 ай бұрын
u forgot hoyo Creative team also had role.. their music and art design can satisfying ppl to spend money
@WuW0w0-m8m2 ай бұрын
@@eldorado-r9ttrue I feel like Wuthering wave got better combat but music arts of hoyo game just better
@Rangiku-cy3ju2 ай бұрын
Is it true that zeneless zone zero reach 52mil in mobile just in 11days ?
@nightmarenova67482 ай бұрын
Came here from Stix as many others have. Thank you very much for the video and your opinion. Subbed and left a heartfelt like ❤
@ginaidoma59252 ай бұрын
Put some music in the background of your videos. 😊
@desu68902 ай бұрын
great video, looking forward to seeing the future performances of WuWa and ZZZ
@latitude9902 ай бұрын
Very good assessment, I agree on basically everything. The most annoying thing for me was not knowing which characters would be available to invite to the pool each round, so even with limited choices it's more random than it needs to be. I'm a day 1 low spender (with a couple short breaks), but I can't imagine how frustrating it would be if I started in the past year and didn't spend a bunch of money.
@latitude9902 ай бұрын
The TV system in ZZZ seems like a novel idea, but it's just a bit too annoying at times. Idk if it's a "me" issue, but the way the camera zooms arounds and shakes so much is very disorienting (maybe better on mobile?). There are also many mission sections that are needlessly long, so I lose track of what's happening and which areas I need to cover. However, some of the later exploration missions are so much fun I hope they keep trying new ideas (without spoiling, the "coin" and "fight" missions are my favorites so far)
@SkyCalicoDrones2 ай бұрын
Nicely done video, much love from stix community <3
@HorizonMediaGaming2 ай бұрын
Saw this channel from Stix commentary, liked the fair and balance critique. New sub!
@StellaMaytv2 ай бұрын
aww thanks so much
@RexLapis-yn7pe2 ай бұрын
Stix sent me :)
@StellaMaytv2 ай бұрын
oh wow stix , said something about the video ill have to check it out.
@NaganoharaYoimiya-bs7hb2 ай бұрын
Doesn't really matter, most gacha companies made way way more than they actually spend making the game. The casino always gonna win 99% of the time. It only matter if you getting a share out of those pies.
@dragondevil692 ай бұрын
without the TV system a lobby game like zzz will just gimp itself as to how they should improve it, well besides the feedback i gave them on some fixes there should be some creative way as for the Hollow zone it's quite fun, way less requiring and repetitive feeling than wuwa's rogue like mode which i do love the most in wuwa and ofcourse zzz has the insta bosses which is fine can't say they are monster hunter world beasts or dark souls bosses heck even wuwa's bosses are more engaging and i did notice that the combat maps are very distinct and different from one another even though they are in specific themed locations, even the rally maps are different than most combat areas
@divinefox7602 ай бұрын
I still have no idea what I'm giving 57 GB of disc space for. WuWa barely took 30 at launch and I have a lot more stuff to do there than in ZZZ
@stevenys2342 ай бұрын
Animation and models, zzz is the only gacha game that every character has different model and animation
@User_2024-92 ай бұрын
Atleast ZZZ is more playable and optimized than wuwa 😂, wuwa can't even run on low end devices while ZZZ, HSR and Genshit can run fine
@divinefox7602 ай бұрын
@@User_2024-9 mine is not low end, so it runs for me perfectly fine
@astr1d.x-y-z2 ай бұрын
@@User_2024-9 nah i've seen so much people complaining the game asked to pre-download it then come launch zzz switched to "sorry bro, you got poor device", which is why it got 3.0 ratings in some region. In our country alone got so poor engagement in social media, their facebook page is like a dead zone area, so quiet
@User_2024-92 ай бұрын
@@astr1d.x-y-z Lmao, that's literally the same sh1t on Wuwa, wuwa can't run on low end devices but ZZZ still can if you have a device that have a great storage capacity but poor performance which is for people who uses a low end devices for gaming, try that on wuwa and let me see a vid if it will work 😂
@arizats30192 ай бұрын
idc 😂 i play both games anyway
@lagrangewei2 ай бұрын
Wuwa has a bad launch which result in them giving alot of free pulls so I don't see both game as reflective of their state until 2 month into the game. another thing to note is the development cost of these games are not all the same. HSR was not an expensive game to make, so the extra profit translate to 5 times the marketing budget of genshin, hence we are getting more than 1 animated video. ZZZ I expect to cost even less than HSR, it was to capture a side market and an experiment. so don't expect it to do as well as HSR and Genshin. however this does not mean it is less profitable since you have to remember they don't cost the same to produce. this is likely bad for Wuwa since they did more alot to making their game, they should have got their teething problem out of the way in the beta, but the beta feedback was mixed so they had to make changes, and when you make changes, you break stuff. BUT, what we should look at for Wuwa was did it open a new market for them as compared to PGR, did Wuwa has a "genshin" effect for the company not by profit but penetration. if they have penetration, than they can eventual make more profit as the problem are resolved.
@0lycm_2 ай бұрын
i mean it is a hoyo game wuwa got no watch
@0kaiKai2 ай бұрын
WuWa is boring. There is already nothing to do. No wonder players are slowly quitting.
@theolailheugue94022 ай бұрын
No wonder players also gonna quit ZZZ in 1.0 and 1.1 in the transition période when they gonna have clear all the content.
@0kaiKai2 ай бұрын
@@theolailheugue9402 1.0 has 20x content over 1.2 wuwa.
@nmjdf_ksd232 ай бұрын
i finished hsr 2.3 in 2 days, ZZZ cleared chapter 3 in a week. both game is boring now as well since i finished all content. So is it dead? you play gachas for the first time? lmao so dumb
@sanegayguy2 ай бұрын
You mean a billion dollar company's game outperformed literally every other gacha? who would've thought!
@excelution70402 ай бұрын
Wuwa is just a bad game. It has good concepts but the developers tried too hard to make a game they are not competent enough to make and the execution of the game just ended up terrible. The game is far below the quality standards of games they are trying to compete with, namely the Hoyoverse games. The gameplay is just too unpolished and janky. While their creative studio is decent, they're nowhere near as good as Hoyoverse's. I highly doubt the gameplay quality will ever improve significantly as it seems their game developers don't know how to code efficiently and they seem to lack care for finer details unlike Hoyo game devs. Shame though, if the quality of the game was at the very least, Genshin standards, it would probably be a better game than Genshin.
@ryuuu20002 ай бұрын
Gameplay in wuwa is much more fluid compare to genshin specially the characters which have their own attack set and heavy attack set which gives wuwa's character a "personality" unlike genshin's which is just a copy paste of attack and heavy attack pattern.
@afterp34992 ай бұрын
Zenless Zero is competing against Nikke:Goddess of Victory, not Wuthering Waves this is why the ZZZ is so animated and horny.
@PerishAndRuin2 ай бұрын
I just hope it does well for a long time, cause this game is slapping I don't mind playing both wuwa and zzz at the same time
@zelend20652 ай бұрын
I was thinking that super challenging combat mechanics in Gacha games which is largely a casual playerbase is more niche than people think.
@SirMitsuruji52 ай бұрын
I think it will for the simple reason of having oversexualized characters and that look like fucking children. And let's face it, people love that disgusting shit.
@MerkMD2 ай бұрын
WuWa while have very good mechanic, the whole game is just pure Chinese propaganda machine. Everything in WuWa is a chinese thing... to the point that it doesn't make sense.
@theolailheugue94022 ай бұрын
THE FIRST REGION IS IN CHINA. Its like saying that Mond or Liyue not have many sense cause they are too German or China inspire. Can you pls buy you a brain ?
@yowrange2 ай бұрын
to me, this game mode is not about using your best teams with the best reactions because the stellas (or stars) are just for show and you could get all the rewards just by making it to the final boss and finishing it. this mode, like any roguelike simulator, is about making the best of your situation. How you improvise with your current boons and picking your primary and alternate cast will determine your results. The game mode does still need major improvements though, I feel they have too few of trial characters to use and the lending/borrowing of friend's characters is too restrictive.
@StellaMaytv2 ай бұрын
I agree, but I think that genshins reaction system is what makes the game fun. You take that away, and you are kind of just not playing the game as intended. Its weird that the developers want us to do that.
@yowrange2 ай бұрын
@@StellaMaytv i agree with you on element reactions being the main point of genshin's combat, i hope they improve it some more so that players can have more fun with the game mode.
@wizirbyman2 ай бұрын
you're right about the TVs it's honestly soooo bad and annoying. i really don't like them or find them difficult to solve
@yqisq69662 ай бұрын
ZZZ is rather unique and experimental. I won't compare it to other games intended to maximize its audience base. I think it's a good thing because we don't need every game to be like Genshin or Honkai.
@0kaiKai2 ай бұрын
ZZZ is almost exactly like Honkai, Honkai Impact 3rd.
@yqisq69662 ай бұрын
@@0kaiKai Nah they are not. It's like claiming every action game is the same as devil may cry.
@0kaiKai2 ай бұрын
@@yqisq6966 they are 99% similar.
@1Quixi12 ай бұрын
Tbh I still feel more like staying with Kuro games... Hoyo games are stingy as hell... In wuva I have all 3 released characters with their weapons... As a light spender... In hoyo games I would have only the characters... At best...
@gachaa_enjoyer2 ай бұрын
5:14 Is this even a tough question? I think your perception of wuwa or gacha games in general is flawed. Outside of drama CCs, wuwa have very little fan arts, fan fics, irl events, community engagement, collabs, concert potential (no good selection of music), and even lewd art. And these are necessary for longevity of a live service game. It isn't even surprising that ZZZ outperforms wuwa. In the first 8 days of ZZZ on CN iOS, Wuwa's historically highest revenue day cannot even beat ZZZ's lowest revenue day. Wuwa is already on a decline in CN, their biggest market, and they aren't even in v1.2 yet. Seriously, the whole facade of wuwa being the hype game is just an illusion on YT and Twitch. But don't take my word for it though, let's see the revenue for not only July, but for the rest of the year too.
@yeetuspatronus10502 ай бұрын
@@gachaa_enjoyer also, one thing that really help is the memes. Genshin, HSR, and ZZZ all three of them have significant amount of memes in the first week of launch. Meanwhile Wuwa's community keeps talking about how great the game is whenever and wherever instead of engaging in much more meaningful ways
@warnerlewtv69232 ай бұрын
@yeetuspatronus1050 meme or what shyt i do not care..... I just want the game to be fun. I like ZZZ tho already dropped other older mihoyo games. Just WuWa and ZZZ currently.
@lagrangewei2 ай бұрын
you have to remember Hoyoverse has like 400 million dollar budget for marketing... they can pay artist, do concert, create entire animation short for their games... but this doesn't mean their ROI is higher, spending all that money are expenses that has to be cover back by earning...
@warnerlewtv69232 ай бұрын
@lagrangewei yeah the expenses probably 100 times more than kuro games. Mihoyo valued at 23 billion. Meanwhile, i dont think kuro has even hit 1 billion yet.
@gachaa_enjoyer2 ай бұрын
@@lagrangewei Based on what they are spending the money on I doubt they even have the slightest worry about ROI. Doing random shenanigans like cultivating a new species of rose, building a school, and even throwing $60mil for research into nuclear fusion - which is btw as good as a donation since fusion is a black hole for funds unlike fission that will likely earn your money back. Regardless, the community is what keeps games alive, and you can gauge how healthy a community is by looking at fan content or memes surrounding the game. Significant income also comes from official merch too. How likely do you think wuwa players will care about merch when in the first week of release there is already a ranking of most hated characters on Bilibili.
@broccoli51762 ай бұрын
ZZZ will win with ease. The problem for Kuro fans is that they forget - the combat system is not the whole game. And everything else in Wuwa is mediocre, to put it mildly.
@lazycat8362 ай бұрын
WuWa animated scenes, exploration, character designs aren't mediocre. I think u are hinting at the story, music, UI, voice acting and dialogues. The story in 1.1 is getting better, many players found it to be good, of course that is subjective. Music in 1.1 is more impressive than 1.0. Apparently some people noticed that Kuro is working on replacing the old voices of characters in the prologue to make it more natural, I didn't play in EN dub so Im not sure. Anyway, I agree that combat system is not the whole game. However, out of the many things a game has to nail, main combat system is the one that is very hard if not impossible to replace and that one Kuro already pulled it off. The rest can be improved in later updates, so WuWa would be fine as Kuro slowly patches things out. ZZZ also has a prob that is its huge size for launch. Idk how Hoyo made a game that is not open world, with no jumping or climbing in exploration, combats happen in closed areas but still way heavier than that of GI 1.0
@warnerlewtv69232 ай бұрын
@broccoli5176 in what way is Wuwa mediocre in? Please explain serious question?
@divinity31602 ай бұрын
Gameplay is not the whole game 😅 tarded take
@Uohhhh7772 ай бұрын
It's quality over quantity bruh
@evandunn99422 ай бұрын
WuWa gave out so many free pulls. I think the second month would a better representation as to who is doing better.