Solution: play other puyo puyo games for offline. Play the one that was made for online for online

It's too bad the future of the franchise depends on the success of Puyo Puyo Puzzle Pop. I may be more of a Tetris guy, but doing that, especially with an Apple Arcade exclusive game, couldnt be a much worse idea. And it sucks too. Seeing that I've recently bought Puyo Puyo Tetris 1 and 2, I wanted to get into Puyo Puyo. Now, if what is said to be true, I (and many other Puyo Puyo players) might not ever see a localized game in the west in the future.

I personally think that the best way to gain an audience in the west isn't just having a story mode, but making something with some SERIOUS story focus, to an extent that content creators have not just interesting potential for videos, from the standpoint of being a beginner themselves, but that a full series is feasibly from the standpoint of the creator. Not just little blurbs from Puyo Pop Fever, not just a short story with a convenient end, I mean a full saga, perhaps have some smaller non-puyo puyo element to pad it out and make it less repetitive, or even something like starting out with only 2 colors and upping color count over time, or SOMETHING to make it substantial enough to make it a watchable, AND playable game even outside competitive play... The quality of the writing would be the most important part because we already know the gameplay works, we already know the gameplay is fun, and we already know how much the west values good storytelling. Use story as that foot in the door, or trojan horse, to get people hooked on the gameplay.... and from there just make sure any future releases at least have some story, and make sure that whatever story is there doesn't suck, even in any multiplayer focused games

brO APPLE ARCADE WHAT?! HOLY SHIT I cannot physically believe what the hell my GOD what the fFUCK

Just because I wanna make you scream I'm gonna say that "exclusivity" is good because it allowed Sega to trick Apple into giving them a bunch of money and time to make a really big new Puyo Puyo game while using their failed platform as a closed beta while they continue to develop and add new cool features. So now when the game gets ACTUALLY released it can do so with a massive set of features while making a huge splash because people literally do not know this game exists (note how Sega has not marketed it at all yet. Why would they? It's not out yet.). It will just suddenly be a super fancy new Puyo Puyo game coming out on all platforms, all on Apple's dime.

person who wants to get into puyo puyo once they found out puyo puyo has an actual world behind it, this is just sad :(

I won't be surprised if puyo puyo dies obviously Sega doesn't have faith for the series because why bother the series literally tetris but with anime characters I heard about the series because Sonic was added wish was cool but if I'm being honest puyo puyo has no future

I have the game on all platforms

As much as I love Tetris, Tetris does not belong in the world of Puyo Puyo and as much as I love Puyo Puyo, Puyo Puyo does not belong in the world of Tetris.

Well, I won't say there's NO reason not to do cross play, indie devs and such may not be able to afford the server costs and dev time/ability that needs, now puyo puyo has no reason, but for smaller devs , just using the standard servers from the platform you play on usually is a good enough compromise I WILL say cross play should be standard though

I think it would have been worth mentioning that many Apple Arcade games are re-released as Switch games with more features later on after the Apple Arcade contract ends, I think SEGA released an unfinished version of PuyoPuyo Pop on the Apple Arcade to get money from the contract before eventually re-releasing a real version of the game years later.

As a Tetris mane who doesn't really care about Puyo Puyo other than that I just love puzzle games in general I have not purchased or played Puyo Puyo Tetris 2. The novelty had warn off. I never fully got into it back when it was called Dr Robotnik's been being machine and I still prefer other puzzle games. I do actually own a copy of Puyo Pop Fever on GameCube but I hardly play it.

Lets hope for Puyo Puyo Puzzle Pop to release on console, PC, Android, and it to not be on Apple arcade for iOS

I think Puzzle Pop is an amazing game which makes it suck even more that it's stuck on Apple Arcade. I'll keep paying my Puyo bill, but I know people trying to get into the series probably won't, which is unfortunate.

They didn't even attempt to sell a full-fledged and stand-alone puyo puyo game outside of Japan. That's a real shame. I wish I could at least check if Puyo Puyo really doesn't work internationally.

The sad thing is, it's clear Sega doesn't have faith in Puyo Puyo to sell on its own... and they're kinda right Puzzle action games like Puyo and Tetris are, unfortunately, pretty niche these days, and there's basically no way to make one and profit from your venture And under capitalism, profit is everything

Apparently there was a cut to you dying to Raffina

That's not all the Puyo Puyo we got in the West. There was also one on PSP and two re-releases from the Sega Ages line of games on the Switch. A series that would end abruptly a couple of years later for whatever reason.

I knew about Puyo Puyo after PPT came out, but it wasn't my first game... my first game was PP7 (the fan-translated version), and it was my favorite one for a loooong time, afterwards I played a lot of the other games, mostly 20th, and I loved it. I got PPT2 on Steam, tried playing online, only got matched like, once every 15 to 30 minutes, and it was with only Tetris players. Man, do I hate that Sega doesn't have faith on Puyo Puyo enough to make more games, even though it's really a one-of-a-kind game. Makes me really sad :(

You glide along the topic, but I think you need to speak, a little more artsy. I liked your “those not in the know.” Edit: And your “don my tinfoil hat.”

I got excited and purchased puyo Tetris 2 and I tried to play online and I have never even got the chance. The matchmaking was a forever loop and was disappointed.

Puzzle pop really hurts me because the game looks so good and awesome but it's just wasted on a platform that doesn't even work. At a point where puyo puyo REALLY needs an actual game for once... For some reason people are 100% convinced the game IS getting a port to consoles soon despite sega never saying a word about it, and they get mad when i tell them it's unconfirmed and they shouldn't just blindly believe it will happen haha

I gave up on puyo years ago when it was nearly impossible for me to find opponents on puyo esports (steam). This series deserves so much better *sigh*

last year i played madou monogatari hanamaru daiyouchiyenji and really liked it and bought champions and PPT2 just to have my dreams crushed... thanks for the vid cause i surely thought i was missing something, though the PuyoVS client is cool

Crossplay? I think 7 had something like that (though I could just be remembering wrong), where someone playing the DS version could connect to someone playing the Wii version and vice-versa. Honestly, I'm not THAT big a fan of Puyo Puyo, though I do occasionally come back to PuyoVS and Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary. I know more about Puyo than I do Tetris. I just came here, but I've gotta say, I actually really enjoyed watching this vid! You should keep making more stuff like this!

Lucy holding a puyo is what originally attracted me to this video And i love the symbolism behind it as well

Really strong video - genuinely got me to pick up Champions on Steam. (To be honest, I didn't even know it *had* a Steam release, lmfao) I'll admit, I at first fell into the group of "just wanted to play Tetris" (I knew what Puyo was before, I just liked Tetris more), but I've grown to respect Puyo a lot more over the years. It's a very strong puzzle series that, given its legacy and roots in the entire franchise, absolutely deserves better. Here's hoping. Gotta keep that torch lit, and shit, I'm gonna do my best to keep it aflame, too. Puzzle games deserve so much better, man.

The English Translation for Chronicle dropped a few days after i had nasty spine surgery. Was still learning to walk properly again and couldn't sit up without horrible pain, but u bet your ass I got that patch installed to my 3DS. It is my favorite game of my favorite video game franchise. Ally grew to become my favorite character. It was the game i played online up to the moment Nintendo shut down the 3DS online servers. I'm thankful i can still do the Raid Battle via local multiplayer... only issue is that requires other people who have the game lmao! I'm always willing to introduce new people to the game.

I was always more into the classic games with it’s art style. I’ll happily play Sun on my Saturn even if I never see some kind of tournament. (They have them for classic fighters I don’t think it would be wrong to have them for this or Tsu)

16:56 Hi! I’m an Xbox player! I grew up watching my mom beat Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine over and over again, and my first attempt to play Puyo Puyo seriously was with the first PPT on Steam. Nowadays I don’t own a Windows computer or any console other than my Xbox Series S, so I’ll just play PPT2 and PPC against bots whenever I feel like scratching that itch. I wish I could get more into Puyo Puyo and perhaps play competitively at anime cons but Sega hates crossplay for whatever reason.

I became a puyo fan shortly after PPT came out in the west. a UK-based community sprouted around it and i was one of the earliest people that was a part of it. SEGA europe pushed competitive ppt quite hard here in the UK for a while, and I was part of hosting multiple tournaments for it. being forced to play pvt always irked me, especially as puyo just doesn't fare well against tetris as a gamemode. puyo is simply much slower than modern tetris is, and sadly i think the idea of mixed vs was doomed from the start because of that. when PPC came out in the west finally, we heavily tried to get people to move to that due to how bad ppt was competitively. the problem is, nobody wants to buy ANOTHER game that has less content. i don't think there were even many western ppc tournaments, they all sticked to ppt despite the flaws, due to nobody wanting to buy the game. then, PPT2 was revealed and to be honest? we were all very excited for it. official puyo accounts were hyping it up for a long time before launch... just for the game to finally come out and it was such a disappointment. even the story mode is a rehash of the last game. and it was MORE buggy somehow?? how did this even happen?? the launch of PPT2 marked the start of puyo burnout for real imo. people were begging sega to just make a standalone puyo game with crossplay, or hell, just add crossplay to ppt2?? sadly, after the launch sega pretty much fell completely silent. ppt2 didn't get many post launch updates (unlike ppt1) the reveal of puzzle pop just... kind of marked the end of people's interest in puyo, i feel. they made it so exclusive a very small amount of people would ever try it (apple users that are actually willing to pay for arcade??). I understand it's for money, they're a business at the end of the day, but I just... think it was a very bad move. speaking of money... puyo puyo quest (the mobile game) actually makes an INSANE amount of money for how little content they actually add. i used to be genuinely addicted to it and spent a depressing amount of money on it myself. for a game about collecting literal pngs. sega doesn't put much effort into making new puyo content because they can do the bare minimum in puyo quest and make a ton of money off it. it's honestly really sad. this entire situation makes me sad, honestly. puyo puyo deserves so much more than what sega does for it, and it's a shame this is where we're at now. i want puyo puyo to thrive both as a casual and competitive game, i really do.

Decided to watch out of curiosity and *immediately* was surprised by the Meteos music.

All this video has done is made me want a Puyo Puyo Tetris 3 now. I want Puyo to crossover with every game possible (It gives me a good excuse to paly Puyo PLUS get other puzzle games a lot of emphasis too, I like having an every puzzle game that I can shift around in when I don't feel like playing Tetris or Puyo anymore. I like that buffet)

I remember hearing that 15th was heavily considered being localized, skipping over Fever 2 here, but for whatever reason they axed the idea. I wonder how things would be different if they did end up localizing the game.

as a puyo fan, i disagree with so much of this video. adios

I think the biggest thing that pains me about Puyo Puyo is that it's one of those games that Sega owns, and has soooo much potential, but Sega just won't do anything with it. And the reason it matters that it's Sega in particular is because they also own Sonic, one of the most popular game franchises in history. If Sega would just use Sonic as a tool to put these other games they own into the limelight, like Puyo Puyo, Jetset Radio, Ristar, and a ton of other games that have better things to do than collect dust, then Sega would have a huge catalog of popular games! And it's not like Puyo Puyo hasn't crossed over with Sonic before- Mean Bean Machine exists as a reskin of the original game, and Sonic Mania has a Puyo Puyo boss in it! And those other games I mentioned would fit in PERFECTLY with the Sonic IP, along with plenty of others that I'm sure would be very easy to implement. Sega could even take the Streets of Rage approach and sell the trademark to an indie studio that actually wants to do something with the games, because at least in that case the games are still getting a chance, right?? It's just such a shame

The graveyard image starting at 29:53 kinda irks me, and it's because a few of the IPs put on the headstones actually have new games in development. I will defend you on Virtua Fighter, new development wasn't confirmed at the time you put this video up.

this is a well put together video! i've only started playing puyo puyo recently through puyo puyo tetris 2 on switch, i haven't really tried online play yet as i'm still learning a lot of the fundamental puyo puyo stuff but when i do i would definitely be willing to give puyo puyo champions a shot since it is a very cheap game that goes on sale for even cheaper quite often from what i see whenever i look at the switch eshop despite only starting recently i've grown to really love puyo puyo and it is saddening to hear how much sega neglects the franchise and believes the name on it's own would never sell, so they have to bundle it in with a subscription nobody wants or have it crossover with tetris for any chance of a western audience i'm sure sega will keep putting out puyo puyo games but whether or not they will put in the effort to have it be more of a household name in the west is unlikely from the sounds of things, i would love crossplay so i could get my friends who only use their pc to play games haha

15:26 haha. 2021 me made the great decision of buying PPT1 ON PS4, And not even on sale at that, and also PPT2 HAD ALREADY RELEASED ANYWAYS!!!! so thats how i ended up with PPT1 and 2 on both PS4 and PC.

I thought you might mention the "beef bowl eaters" thing lol

Hey, is that Meteos music? love Meteos. I've only dabbled a little in Puyo Puyo myself, so I appreciate your perspective as a hardcore fan. It's a shame that Sega squandered the opportunity to expand the audience for the franchise after it got a surge in popularity with PPT1.

Nice video, I can tell you really care about this. Some more attention could've been paid to the audio side of this video since the visuals are mostly supplementary (there are some clearly flubbed takes, some awkward pauses, and a change of music after a while would've been nice) but the actual substantive writing was compelling. Me, personally, I played Puyo Puyo Tetris as a kid who was dazzled by watching old Wumbo clips and never really engaged with Puyo because it was hard for me to approach compared to the very accessible Tetris (whose high skill ceiling eluded me too, but its low skill floor was appealing lol). I haven't kept up with the series much, but I did hear about the lackluster release of both Champions and PPT2, and I can't blame you for being disgruntled. Something that comes to mind for me is how, competitively, Tetris wasn't that far off from Puyo in terms of struggle for a long time. It basically ruled the game they shared, but PPT was itself not perfect, and I remember lots of discontent among people who took the game seriously about how The Tetris Company and Sanrio weren't doing anything with the IP. The solution for them appears to have been going open source, making their own legally distinct sites, and playing the game they wanted to play. I wonder if Puyo Puyo could follow their lead, not to imply that anyone is obligated to do the work of game developers *for* them and save an IP just because they want to play it, but it seems to have worked for Tetris. Is open source Puyo a viable future?

I used to moderate the English Puyo Puyo Community server. Hi to everyone there! Edit: Mewhen I didn't realise this is missingnos channel.. Hi missingno 😂😅

I guess I'm all caught up now. Still mad we didn't get Puyo Puyo Chronicle.

I feel you dude! I’ve loved this game franchise for 13 years and I still love to play the 15th Anniversary and the 20th Anniversary to this day. From how long I’ve played these games for, it always made me upset, when I was younger, to not be able to find friends who like or even know Puyo Puyo. Every time I played it in front of people they would always say “Oh! It’s a rip off of Tetris” which was always disheartening. When Puyo Puyo Tetris came out, I felt like my worst nightmare came true. It’s really upsetting to see SEGA take this game that I love so much and watch them burn it to the ground. Honestly, what surprised me with the video is when you discussed about the English ports of the game. I had no idea y’all had to wait longer for some of these games to get translated. I always thought they were released at the same time (if you couldn’t guess, I only play on the original Japanese version). This new knowledge kinda makes me feel sadder. :( This video also made me reminisce of the time I happily played with my friends that would give the game a try. I always beat them but it honestly warmed my heart to see them actually enjoy it. My point is, is that I fully agree with you that it would be better now for SEGA to just make Puyo Puyo a stand alone game again because it can genuinely intrigue new players to join in on the fun! Anyway, I talked too much on this comment. Great video! ✨

how dare Sega make a mobile game and release it on mobile the puyo puyo echo chamber should be studied

It's awesome how SEGA buying out the rights to Puyo Puyo coincides with this series becoming the worst garbage ever! I argue that Puyo Pop was the last remotely good game. Actually, I don't argue. I state the truth. Every game since Puyo Puyo Fever has been not only unremarkably bad, but horrible. I hate people who say "It's sad that Madou Monogatari and older Puyo-puyo games don't have translations :((". No, it's a good thing. I'm really glad most westerners don't have access to it. Really helps to tell the difference between ""puyo-puyo" "fans"" and puyo-puyo fans who have already accepted the fact that the golden era of this series is long gone.

I feel like this should've be named "the state of competitive Puyo Puyo in 2024" I'm a casual player, and I really like PPT2, so much that I don't touch the first one I played Fever a couple of times, and the Puyo minigame in Project Mirai. But I...Yeah, I play PPT2, for anime Tetris and the story. If I want to play Puyo Puyo, I'll play a different game

It is even worse that puyo puyo puzzle pop would have been so good to play online and offline if people could actually play it

I find it strange that if they knew puzzle pop would fail, why did they give it so many features and more content (and story content) through updates?