Mr Rowan Williams, does your empathy apply to the Palestinians who have been facing genocide since 1917? I didn't think so. You're the people that the bible talks about: Peter 2:16; Mark 7: 6; and Titus 1:16.

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Church organists do it with their pipe organs. Gay vicars in the Church of England correspondingly get very excited.

Thank you for your encouragement Bishop Sarah Mullally. SHOUT!

Quash is beyond his depth. He speaks on things which he is not qualified on and neither holds credentials for. I wouldn't base any professional opinion on what he says.

Wonderful lecture. I was lifted up by every word!

Thank you Bishop Rowan Williams for a compelling lecture on Empathy; Life, and Faith . Having Emotional Intelligence as well as Intelligent awareness.

Fascinating talk - would like to read this book 😎

This was fantastic. I think perhaps, what is needed in his definition of empathy, was the idea that an empathetic person not only imagines themselves in the other’s position, he not only “knows” and resonates with the other person, but desires the circumstances, the space, for that other person to become fully human. This would make a clear demarcation between someone who is a life promoting empath and someone who is a dark empath. Clearly we need another name for the kind of empathy that simply feels what another person is feeling, as it can be used either to manipulate to the other’s demise, or self-soothe within the comfort of inaction, while the suffering continues. Empathy needs to be defined by its resultant effect on the humanity of the other person. Just as the empath imagines himself from the point of view of the other, the definition must be from the point of view of the other. To define empathy from the point of view of self, seems to be the crux of the problem and the very definition of self-defeat.

My congregation and our village church are the foundations of my faith. I have absolutely no interest in the grandious and politically motivated aspects of the Church of England. It seems to me that Woke bishops and their self absorbed virtue signalling do the rest of us a disservice.

I was so impressed by this talk that I have ordered the commentary by David F. Ford. It was outstandingly good.

Yeah effics and umpaffy, just not for those I discriminate against, that's different because reasons 🙄

I would say that Ethics, Morality, Justice, Compassion, and Empathy may be discussed without referring to Religion and to God and one may keep the discussion to a secular one. Even in a secular state, this issue is still very complex as every human individual has a body and mind which can operate at diverse levels and grades, and so not every individual would be able to process and interpret and operate at the same level within these qualities. If a person is almost deaf, then he will never be able to appreciate that other people can suffer from the music being played at high volume at 2am when others need to sleep, He will never understand how sensitive others are around him. If we assume a perfectly healthy body with perfectly sensitive and selective sensors to pick up external information, then it is the capacity of the " mind memory bank" and the "mind processing bank" which will decide at what level the human mind can operate to reach a conclusion on how he feels about the state of the situation around him. If one person has 10 memory units and the other has 100 memory units, even if they both own and had gained the Kernels of life's experience with which to compare the incoming information, the person with 10 memory units cannot ever handle a situation where the new information needs more than 10 memory units holding capacity, before the mind procession analysis on it would start. The same would happen if the processing capacity of two persons has not reached the same level of activity. One preacher, preaching to a group of people could not ever expect an equal outcome from all members of the audience. Regarding the formation of Ethics, this can come about due to how people can react to the sensation of pain and pleasure. If the body sensors are calibrated by evolution and inheritance, to detect a level of pain, the human memory bank will hold that while the processing bank will work on it regarding the source that caused the pain, relative to the level of pain and the consequences to the body and to the inner emotions. Once a person experiences pain, that person has added a new Kernel that describes pain and its consequences, and the processing mind would conclude that one should not conduct the activity that causes the pain to others. An equivalent Kernel relation is set up if the sensation was that of pleasure. It is this combination of sensing and memorizing and processing pain and pleasure that would build the Ethics and Morality that enable a group of people living in the wild, to stay together build their shelters, their protections, and raise and share their food. Having a higher memory bank and a higher processing capacity, emphaty, compassion, and consciousness would also follow. If Jesus, as a human, suffered flagellation and crucifixion, then he would have felt and experienced the most painful Kernels there are in this world, and so he would be in a position to know the levels of the sufferings of others. It is said that a doctor cannot know the suffering of his patient as long as he does not have his ailment. Some say that no man can know the suffering of childbirth as he is not a mother! Staying discussing the issues of Ethics and Empathy on a secular basis, a person with long experiences of pain and pleasure backed by a perfectly functioning body and mind with enough memory and processing capacity can reach a stage when that person can live happily with a similar person, till one of them does not evolve with a distorting body and mind to influence his conclusion to become a FANATIC with an unstable mind. The human mind can also be distorted, by drugs, drinks, being tired, propaganda, and art and emotional materials. Two persons listening to Adolf Hitler would follow a path depending on their own characteristics. One could have a lower level of mental processing abilities and so he would be impressed by Hitler and could eagerly go to join the Nazi SS party, while the other with a higher processing capacity would see through Hitler and would detect that the orator Hitler was sick in the mind and would find a way to escape this influence. If God is permitted to enter the discussion then it is the body and mind capacity of the human individual that will eventually select the God that is needed to take part in the discussion and the solution. I personally feel that Jesus referred to the Energy around him as "His Father" and so Jesus was his son. Hence we are all made in the image of God. This was the Energy God that Albert Einstein meant in the equation E= mc^2, This was also Baruch Spinoza's God as nature and the universe. It was also James Clerk Maxwell's God Electromagnetic energy that travels as Curl ( Electric) = - d( magnetic)/dt where three separate phenomena join into one as (E field) cross ( M field )= Power. where E field and Mfiled and Power are three in one energy phenomena. Jesus did say," I am a son of God" and not, " I am the only (son) of God" The pain we discussed to conclude on Ethics and Morals and Empathy was related to the mass of the human body, which when we all die, we will all resurrect from mass to energy according to Albert Einstein's God where E= mc^2. the Energy that existed since time began. The " other God" is a derivate or an integral function of the God that Einstein , Spinoza and Maxwell and Faraday and Merz, and Tesla spoke about. We shall talk about the " other God" who created the energy E , some other time.

Bloody brilliant presentation!

By the Cross of Jesus we have the victory, By the Blood of Jesus we have healing and By the suffering of Jesus we have hope 🙏🙏🙏

Putting aside Form Criticism and its legacy of how to approach the Gospels, and coming back to a more natural view of these as ancient memoirs, why couldn't it be the case that the so-called "Q" material is just Matthew's original Gospel in the Hebrew language, which then served as a starting point for someone (perhaps Matthew himself later) to write the fuller Gospel? He could use Mark for structure (especially if he respected it as coming ultimately from Peter) and he could draw from oral traditions and other sources as well. This just seems to fit the data so well (including the so-called Patristic sources).

Thanks a lot for this talk!

1 Corinthians 15:3-4

Very interesting

This lecture is actually quite informative. Bauckham explains that the understanding the early form critics had of oral tradition was fundamentally flawed and consequently the conclusions they applied to the gospels were flawed.He develops the understanding of the genre of the gospels, stating that they would have been understood akin to Greco-Roman biographies, which themselves put a great deal of importance on the role of Eye -Witnesses. Perhaps the evidence of tradition has been ignored too readily in the past and a reassessment of the value of tradition is worth considering, especially in connection with gospel authorship. Nevertheless, if Richard Bauckham believes form critics led gospel scholarship down a rabbit hole, so, too, we must be careful with the extreme claims in recent years of some scholars who have become fixated on Greco-Roman historical compositional devices and applied these to the gospels. The new rabbit hole ?

Exciting work! Thanks for this, Professor Quash.

I swear this is as interesting as watching the grass grow. No watching the grass grow is far more interesting.

I really love this man. He’s an inspiration

The asmr bishop!

Seeking to go deeper. Thank you for opening a space for learning and understanding.

Superb!

I was racially abused and discriminated against for being the only Asian Muslim working in a predominantly white Christian organisation, the Diocese of London. I hope that Sarah Mullally acknowledges this issue instead of brushing it under the carpet as did many of the staff members that work there, and I hope she takes active measures to encourage the racist members of her church to overcome their insular views of the BAME community.

This is really worth watching.