This is MY opinion so take it for what it's worth (to you). Hitting an approach shot deep and down the middle, in theory, is good because as you've heard over and over, it cuts down sharp angles that your opponent can hit. HOWEVER, if your opponent has good ground strokes, she's going to pass you somewhat easily, depending on your athleticism. Shannon does a great job getting to the net quickly, but she doesn't hit shots that make her opponent struggle to hit a good passing shot. Instead, ONLY come in behind a shot that is to your opponents weaker side, causing them to hit a weak return so you can finish the point.Shannon's footwork on the serve and return of serve is excellent. I would like to see her split step on her final step coming to the net to better prepare her for the next shot from her opponent. Great job, Shannon! By now (2 years later), I would like to see another one of her matches.
@fourthshotpickleballАй бұрын
Thanks for the thoughtful comment - I just showed it to Shan and it made her day. Great observations - thanks for the support 💪
@greatest1721Ай бұрын
But the problem is he was trying to hit the other person. Not the guy who body bagged him. A nasty Nelson isn't a bad move sometimes if you can catch them off guard.
@jklokАй бұрын
Jim Doran is a prick
@JulioGonzalez-jj1fb3 ай бұрын
Very nice and clean game.
@PewPewReload3 ай бұрын
Out call at 4:37 was in. Slow-mo doesn't lie.
@mpengle3 ай бұрын
Just curious, but how does this division/match differ from the gold medal 30+ match Ben and Mandy played? Was there an Open division as well as a 5.0 one? I have not been to the US Open to know of there is a difference.
@DaddyDinksAllDay3 ай бұрын
What paddle was each player using?
@fourthshotpickleball3 ай бұрын
Just looked them up, they won 30-34, I guess it's considered an open age division. This tournament was skill/age.
@fourthshotpickleball3 ай бұрын
@DaddyDinksAllDay Sara Maher is using Element 6, David McNally is PxVamos by Pello, Ashley Merchant Onix Premier, Michael Roenigk is using a carbon fiber Head paddle
@mpengle3 ай бұрын
@@fourthshotpickleball If Mandy played 30-34 would this mean your match was 35-39?
@dowdyjackson54994 ай бұрын
Nice job Waymon and Justin!!
@nihilus16265 ай бұрын
jim dobran is a pro at pickleball charlotte here in well, charlotte. Embarrassing to say the least that someone this soft is one of the few pro players here and is an instructor nonetheless.
@SeaKing662 ай бұрын
Not soft! He responded to the "too small" gesture by beating down the other team. I think it's okay to call someone out and talk back to someone when they start chirping. Ultimately they showed they are the stronger team.
@yallprettysus5 ай бұрын
I love senior tennis❤
@benjamindavis22135 ай бұрын
100% not a hindrance. You could make an argument for a distraction though. 😊
@fourthshotpickleball5 ай бұрын
Ben, you are the goat ref, what is the difference between hinderance and distraction?
@benjamindavis22135 ай бұрын
Rules 3.a.7 and 3.a.16 in the USAPA 2024 Official Rulebook. Basically, hinders are not caused by players in the match and result in replays. Distractions are done by players in the match and result in faults.
@fourthshotpickleball5 ай бұрын
@@benjamindavis2213 ah yes, thank you for clarifying the difference. Do you think you would have called a distraction? Related question- have you ever called a distraction in a match?
@benjamindavis22135 ай бұрын
@@fourthshotpickleball The on-court referee did not call a distraction, so by rule it's not a distraction. Yes, I have called distractions. They were generally due to players yelling while their oppenents were hitting the ball.
@madrum5 ай бұрын
I’ve seen people wave their paddle in the air multiple times and it wasn’t called hindrance. I haven’t read the rule, but assume it’s more with making sounds/yelling.
@omz315 ай бұрын
2:08 💀💀💀🤣
@brandonward80306 ай бұрын
That first return was in…just saying
@fourthshotpickleball5 ай бұрын
eh yeah we thought the same- be like that tho sometimes
@user-rx6er7lv1x6 ай бұрын
This would have been an unreal upset, can't think of the last time JMA has lost at singles in one of these local tournaments
@josephkim33865 ай бұрын
His name is David Bieger. Emerging pro out of UVA
@josephkim33865 ай бұрын
He still loses to me though
@Adi0-e8v6 ай бұрын
Who are the players?😅
@MrDavidbgood6 ай бұрын
David Bieger (myself) and Jhonnatan Medina Alvarez!
@madrum6 ай бұрын
29:07 sick shot!
@5IVEZERO6 ай бұрын
#CopterJuice 💦🚁🤘🇺🇸
@jameslux74066 ай бұрын
4.5/5.0 ? Really?
@slingshot360diecastracing625 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@dominionn096 ай бұрын
I get tungsten tape from pickleball effect its on Amazon
@zachariahsusko80806 ай бұрын
keep up the good work
@i2410i6 ай бұрын
dude in the grey does not miss a paddle flip 🤣
@malloryemclaren7 ай бұрын
I think the guy in the red, who is a real banger, finally met his match with a finesse player. They’re both solid players.
@sonnynos7 ай бұрын
9 ounces is very heavy geez!! Is this your doubles and singles paddle? I take it hand speed is not an issue?
@fourthshotpickleball7 ай бұрын
What paddle weight are you currently using? This is my singles and doubles paddle. My singles style is a placement over power style, so I have had success using this paddle. But frankly if you can afford to have different setups for each game, I think it is worth pursuing.
@fourthshotpickleball7 ай бұрын
Oh my hand speed is not one of my superpowers but can hang in the 5.0 and Open level tournaments I play.
@davidallott58267 ай бұрын
Good process. Just keep in mind once you add an overgrip, electrical and lead tape, you are increasing your total paddle weight by probably 30 grams. Even more so if you use proper edge protection tape instead of electrical tape. This puts your 8.1 ounce stock paddle at well over 9 ounces. That might work for the pros and for you, but will be too heavy for most amateur / rec players to keep their hand speed.
@fourthshotpickleball7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your feedback. I just weighed my paddle and it is 9.35oz. You are certainly correct that adding the lead plus over grip, (imo electrical tape is negligible) comes at a cost of hand speed and a learning curve of getting used to a different feel with a paddle which is not tolerable by all. I played for about 2 years before I opted to experiment with lead tape and heavier paddles. Though now, I would not go back to using stock paddles after playing with this setup for 3+ years.
@LOONWERK7 ай бұрын
These guys have zero backhands
@fourthshotpickleball7 ай бұрын
1. They have elite backhands, especially Ryan. 2. They are quick enough to run around a lot of backhands if they choose and still cover the court
@JenyonceN7 ай бұрын
Looks great!
@CheeseDude3337 ай бұрын
What is this...?
@hexfreedom36148 ай бұрын
Where is this? Thx.
@fourthshotpickleball7 ай бұрын
Chestnut forks tennis club in Warrenton, Va
@amylaidlaw68908 ай бұрын
Wonderful match. So proud of our grandson - Amy laidlaw
@sierraghougasian18682 ай бұрын
need
@BNGTube808 ай бұрын
Great match! One of the best cat and mouse games I’ve seen. FAD would be proud!
@dashmcnally90788 ай бұрын
cool
@sangaman8 ай бұрын
Another good one at 8:55
@fourthshotpickleball8 ай бұрын
Lol then my 2 handed down the line...(˘・_・˘)
@sangaman8 ай бұрын
Good point at 4:12
@fourthshotpickleball8 ай бұрын
Yeah Cole's 2 hander down the line 👌
@Adi0-e8v8 ай бұрын
Great camera angle! If only the ppa used this haha 😅
@fourthshotpickleball8 ай бұрын
Haha yup- only the best camera angles here! Thanks for watching
@SimplePickleball9 ай бұрын
So…that would be an NVZ fault…right?
@yulialin36119 ай бұрын
🎉 it was a great match! Congratulations again! 🎉
@rkotnana9 ай бұрын
@birdpickleball @pickleballstudio
@grant58649 ай бұрын
Black shirt needed to chill with his serve receive. He tried to slice everything but hit a bunch out or in a bad spot as a result. Plus it gave blue shirt a bunch of time to get to it with a forehand.
@fourthshotpickleball9 ай бұрын
Black shirt is Arpit Dhir. His return of serve got him to the gold match so his game deserves a lot of credit. Blue shirt is Jason Renner and he is really talented at using his footwork to run around his backhand to create shots with his forehand.
@thirdshotpodcast11 ай бұрын
I love watching how Jhonnatan Medina-Alvarez moves his opponents all over the court to create openings. It was a pleasure to get to know him better on Third Shot Podcast kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5upoauNepKZnM0
@JenyonceN11 ай бұрын
My favorite little ginger snaps ❤❤❤❤❤ Lets goo ladies💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@JenyonceN11 ай бұрын
Great analysis!
@pattiecarr5599 Жыл бұрын
The guy with hat, needs to improve his backhand
@jeffreyvollmer8806 Жыл бұрын
lol, among other things
@rkotnana Жыл бұрын
Alex you cheeky fella
@Gwillis7 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever try the 16 mm paddle and did it help with more control? Would love to see that review
@ceeIoc Жыл бұрын
Dude has a western grip. Must be tough switching grips all the time
@fourthshotpickleball9 ай бұрын
yeah Arpit is western grip legend. He can create a lot with it and has a strong backhand as well.
@CSuiteInsider Жыл бұрын
Black hat guy robbing the bald guy on at least 3 line calls. Unsportsmanlike
@pattiecarr5599 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would post the score, very good match
@trextrextrex Жыл бұрын
What is all the shooting type noise in the background?