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@alexanderbeliaev5244
@alexanderbeliaev5244 Күн бұрын
Simply Wonderful! Thank you :)
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you Күн бұрын
You are very welcome! 🙂
@brianhagen9244
@brianhagen9244 Күн бұрын
Am studying for my AE license and now this stuff is beginning to make sense. thanks!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you Күн бұрын
I am glad that this video is helping to make sense of things. But I am not familiar with an AE license. Please do not use acronyms, not everyone will necessarily know what you are talking about. 🙂
@IK8XOO--Paolo
@IK8XOO--Paolo 3 күн бұрын
Good, nice and very, very clear, precise and exhaustive in the explanations: you deserve many more views and subscribers. Highly recommended to my students. Tell us about yourself: engineer? Professor? Or simply enthusiast? 73s.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! I've played with electronics since I was in grade school. Ham radio and electronics all through Jr High and High school. I was in the USAF with an electronics related specialty. Getting out of the USAF, I became a biomedical technician working for a hospital. Eventually I got my electrical engineering degree and have worked in the heavy military electronics, medical and petrochemical fields. The later two as a product design engineer. Why EIE? Check out my introductory video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJS3hoOAoZ6Ehck 🙂
@leomartihart
@leomartihart 3 күн бұрын
gracias por tu trabajo!!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 2 күн бұрын
You are very welcome! 🙂
@tinkerman9525
@tinkerman9525 4 күн бұрын
For the first time I must disagree with you. The pigtails are part of the antenna. Put your 200 ohm dirctly on the balun and see what the swr are.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 4 күн бұрын
I can see your point. From my point of view, the antenna stops at its feedpoint. The question is ... what do we consider to be the feedpoint. In the end, in this sort of situation, what works ... works. If you watch the video on the folded dipole for 2 m where I take the 4:1 BALUN created here and use it with this antenna, it works. 🙂
@sampamnl.8964
@sampamnl.8964 4 күн бұрын
ขอบคุณมากครับกีบสาระดีๆ
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 4 күн бұрын
You are very welcome! 🙂
@DanielDaniel-gh1uh
@DanielDaniel-gh1uh 4 күн бұрын
Very good teacher. Everything is easily understood. Thank you
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 3 күн бұрын
Thank you! 🙂
@ruhnet
@ruhnet 4 күн бұрын
Fantastic video-this has been on my watch list since it was first posted and I just today had a chance to watch it. 😂 There are many ways to do this same measurement-one thing I really love about your videos is that the detail you go into somewhat forces understanding of the process, rather than just a repeatable fixed method. So with that knowledge the same or similar measurement could be performed using various different tools, like an oscilloscope rather than SA (with less frequency-specific accuracy), an attenuator rather than sampler, etc. 73 and God bless!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 4 күн бұрын
Well thank you very much! I had to say as I read your comment, "That is EXACTLY what I try to accomplish in my videos!" 73 and God bless you as well! 😁
@lumpyfishgravy
@lumpyfishgravy 4 күн бұрын
When putting two chokes in series, I'm interested what happens if you put two turns on just one of them. I would expect to see a better low frequency performance.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 4 күн бұрын
This sounds like a nice experiment to try! 🙂
@khalid26752
@khalid26752 5 күн бұрын
Hello sir. If I want to learn this science, what is the field and major which explain this?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 4 күн бұрын
That would be Electrical Engineering with an emphasis in R.F. Engineering. 🙂
@khalid26752
@khalid26752 4 күн бұрын
@eie_for_you Thats great Thank you
@alexanderbeliaev5244
@alexanderbeliaev5244 5 күн бұрын
Absolutely outstanding! Incredible videos on circuit design.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 4 күн бұрын
Thank you! 🙂
@biffjones2601
@biffjones2601 5 күн бұрын
I really like your useful presentation, explanation, information, video and audio. Thank you.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 4 күн бұрын
Thank you so much ... and you are very welcome! 🙂
@lmwlmw4468
@lmwlmw4468 5 күн бұрын
Great video.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 5 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@garysewell5465
@garysewell5465 5 күн бұрын
Great 🙂
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 5 күн бұрын
Thanks! 🙂
@wh0tube
@wh0tube 6 күн бұрын
Not The Fair-Right Company! 😁 Great video, very useful 👍 thank you 🙏
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 5 күн бұрын
LOL! Thanks! 🙂
@OH8EFI
@OH8EFI 6 күн бұрын
Thing that annoys me. Why on earth they won't mark down the mix in any ferrites??
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Now THAT is a good point! 🙂
@OH8EFI
@OH8EFI 6 күн бұрын
@eie_for_you Before I saw this video, I had a bit of a problem of having cheapo snap ons and proper ones on the shelf. I gotta test this out. Oh, and same for toroids! Good luck trying to remember which ones were #43, #31 and #52 mixes! A bit of paint on the side wouldn't hurt on manufacturing side. Though, dumb user like me forgot to mark down what they were when I got them
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
@@OH8EFI A lot of toroids are, indeed, color coded ... if you can remember what the codes mean. At least you can group them by color! 😁 If I remember right, Amidon tells you what their color codes mean on their data sheets. 🙂
@x_CrossHair_x
@x_CrossHair_x 6 күн бұрын
Is there a way to determine the "Impedance" of an "EFHW" End Fed Half Wave - Long Wire antenna using a "Nano VNA" so that I can choose the correct ratio 1:1 / 4:1 / 9:1 / 49:1 or even perhaps a 64:1 UnUn Matching Transformer. so that I can be confident it is Matched to 50 Ohms for my Radio.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Having no personal experience with End Fed Half Wave Antennas, I can only repeat what I've been told by those who have ... 9:1. 🙂
@galileo_rs
@galileo_rs 13 сағат бұрын
Can you measure a piece of wire 1m long (EFHW for a 2M band)?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 12 сағат бұрын
@@galileo_rs First of all, I'm not sure if you are trying to measure its end-to-end response or its its swr or its impedance. Could you please be more clear in what you are trying to accomplish? Second, I do not do acronyms. I can only guess at a host of possible meanings which does not help in clear communication. 🙂
@galileo_rs
@galileo_rs 12 сағат бұрын
@@eie_for_you It wasn't a question, it was a response to the previous question.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 12 сағат бұрын
@ Aaaaaaaahhhh! I missed that! When I click on the comment, it doesn't bring up what came before and it gives no indication to me that I have some context to consider. Sorry for the misunderstanding! The VNA needs both the signal and the return. A simple wire hanging out there without some sort of return path won't work. Your end fed half wave antenna also needs a "counterpoise" as I understand it. This functions as the "return path" for the feedline. So, if you have your antenna and its counterpoise connected to the nanoVNA, then it will, indeed, tell you what it sees. I hope this helps. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding. 🙂
@fnordist
@fnordist 6 күн бұрын
Just a little real-world experience with common mode suppression at high power levels: start with 3-4 ferrites at the beginning that only suppress a little, as they heat up less. Then use ones that suppress more effectively later on, since heat degrade their suppression, especially in the summer.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
WOW! That is great advice! 🙂
@jmcexx
@jmcexx 6 күн бұрын
Nice video! Is there significance to the clip leads of your fixture being 90 degrees apart leaving the connectors? Or is that just describing what you did? Reduce magnetic coupling in the fixture?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Thank you! It is to reduce the signal coupling for the isolation tests. Conductors at 90 degrees to each other have a lot harder time inducing signals in each other.🙂
@jmcexx
@jmcexx 6 күн бұрын
@@eie_for_you Thanks for the clarification. Seems like an important detail.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
@@jmcexx You are welcome! 🙂
@a68k_de
@a68k_de 7 күн бұрын
lol wenn wieder einmal die Übersetzung des Titels und der Beschreibung vollkommen in die Hose geht...
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Gotta love those AI translations! LOL 🙂
@snikrepak
@snikrepak 7 күн бұрын
fantastic video! got my sdr and have been wondering about a few things like ghosting! thank you!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm glad this video was helpful to you! You are very welcome. 🙂
@azarellediaz4892
@azarellediaz4892 7 күн бұрын
Great video and especially the table that I had never seen before, thanks. Can you tell what the numbers in the table mean?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! Honestly, I'm not sure what the numbers actually mean. Sorry. 🙂
@AC7WH
@AC7WH 7 күн бұрын
Very informative and well-done video! Thank you so much for completing these tests and sharing your test results. Blessings to you and your family. ~ 73 ~ AC7WH - C.A.R.S.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! It was most certainly a fun video to produce. Thank you for the blessing for me and my family! 🙂
@AC7WH
@AC7WH 6 күн бұрын
@@eie_for_you Excellent! And you're very welcome!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 5 күн бұрын
@ 🙂
@daveN2MXX
@daveN2MXX 7 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Compairing cheap amazon clip on ferrite devices to a larger piece of ferrite from fair-rite isn't really a fair comparison. You did a great job showing that the fair-rite device is superior, but amazon ferrites are a fraction of the cost....and if you don't need a tremendous amount of attenuation, then a few turns around the amazon clip on ferrites are probably good enough and will cost less.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Thank you! I don't know if you noticed that I compared a similar size cheap Amazon tubular ferrite to a very generic box style to a genuine Fair-Rite box style. You are right, though, if you do not need a lot of attenuation, then the cheapies will work just fine. It is all about the application. Figure out what you need and select the ferrite that will do it for you. 🙂
@daveN2MXX
@daveN2MXX 6 күн бұрын
​@eie_for_you thank you again for the excellent video!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
@@daveN2MXX You are *very* welcome! 🙂
@kenmartin1211
@kenmartin1211 7 күн бұрын
Interesting and helpful. Thank You
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
Thank you ... and you're welcome! 🙂
@arekx
@arekx 7 күн бұрын
Somehow I missed info about the cost... like if 3x beads cost more or less than 1x the other thing?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Well ... the cost is very, very supplier specific. So, quoting costs wouldn't be too helpful here. Furthermore, there are a lot more factors involved than just cost ... like space considerations and dissipation factors and more. This is why you have to do your homework. 🙂
@jeffreyyoung4104
@jeffreyyoung4104 7 күн бұрын
Excellent video! Black ceramic can be made with any kind of junk, and the people who sell them are only after your money, with the least amount of outlay on their part. And you have no way of telling from any of their ads if they are worth anything until you buy them and try them...
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thank you! And you are right ... that is why it is so important to go to a known good supplier like Fair-Rite. 🙂
@brunonikodemski2420
@brunonikodemski2420 7 күн бұрын
Per the comments, you get what you actually should be buying. Ferrites come in all sorts of dissipation ranges and losses. Some are virtually lossless and we used these in HF transformers. The FairRite company catalog is a very good reference source for the actual specs. We did EMI/EMC engineering with these types of things, and they are often ineffective on cables, since that depends on placement. EMI is a common problem now from spread spectrum computer power suppies, and one bead is not going to add much to attenuating the noise level. The cable lengths act as antennas at specific resonant frequencies, so unless you emplace different freq-ranges of ferrites, you won't get much attenuation over a large band. As per the video, the "longer the bead" the better the attentuation. An actual pipe would be the best.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
When many people look at all of these specifications, their eyes glaze over, not sure what it all means. This is why, in the end, if we are not sure what we are looking at when we look at the catalog, their is always customer support. 🙂
@Notmy00000
@Notmy00000 7 күн бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏from 🇳🇱NL
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! 🙂
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 7 күн бұрын
Good idea. It did look like the wire wasn't insulated and I'd probably like to run an insulated wire just to make this more realistic. I have purchased my ferrites from a source I think is having a decent assortment. I did pick them based on the quality impression they gave and not on what they stated on ebay or some other grey web trading site like the jungle site. (Robot Cantina name for a well known site)
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Yep, the wire isn't insulated as I stated in the video. I'm glad you found a good source of ferrites. 🙂
@Grassland-Outpost
@Grassland-Outpost 7 күн бұрын
But, but … mix 31 clip-ons are expensive. :-). Great video, I’ve wondered about how to easily test them.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Yeah ... they aren't always a cheap as we would like, but if we want to get the job done, we have to pay the price, eh? I'm glad that you found the video helpful. 🙂
@WECB640
@WECB640 7 күн бұрын
Whenever I see that Ralph has posted a new video, I stop whatever I'm doing, sit down and pay attention. There is always so much to learn and his videos are consistently exceptional. 73 OM 👍
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! That is very encouraging. 🙂
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 7 күн бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for the video.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thank you ... and you are very welcome! 🙂
@StephanLuik1
@StephanLuik1 7 күн бұрын
If you need clip-on ferrites to solve a problem, then the circuit design is bad.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
True that! But we often have no choice but to accept the shortcomings of other people's designs. Thus, we are stuck with clip on ferrites. 🙂
@Conjugate-Match
@Conjugate-Match 7 күн бұрын
Ralph, I'm sure you know this already, but I'll state it for the benefit of your audience. 3 turns of a wire through a single ferrite would be MUCH more effective than a single wire passing through 3 ferrites. If you're shopping, buy larger diameter ferrites and wind your wire/coax through as many time as it will fit, I recommend a minimum of 3 turns for good attenuation. Type 31 and/or 43 are great for common mode or noise attenuation in the ham bands. I really like your testing jig, and will make one. The multi-turn effect could be easily demonstrated using it. Thanks for your very informative channel. I enjoy one or more of your vids just about every day.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
There ye go! Each additional turn adds some benefit. But, it is the law of diminishing returns, as I show in the video. Yes, each additional turn adds more benefit, but less than the previously added turn. 🙂
@echadmiyodea
@echadmiyodea 7 күн бұрын
When you say "turns" you mean winding the wire through the hole and around the outside of the body of the ferrite, as in repeating loops through the ferrite?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
@@echadmiyodea Each pass through the ferrite is a "turn." The key is that the wire passes *through* the ferrite. Having it beside the ferrite, on the outside, doesn't count. 🙂
@lumpyfishgravy
@lumpyfishgravy 4 күн бұрын
Up to a point. Inter-turn capacitance (mutual inductance in the case of shielded cable) will affect the higher frequency performance. But if you cascade one single turn and one multi-turn, perhaps you get the best of both worlds. I don't have the kit to measure that, unfortunately.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 4 күн бұрын
@@lumpyfishgravy Well ... sounds like the voice of a truly inquisitive experimenter to me! 🙂
@EI6DP
@EI6DP 7 күн бұрын
Very interesting.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! 🙂
@johnclements3441
@johnclements3441 7 күн бұрын
Excellent! Never thought of putting one on a VNA but makes sense why my cheap Amazon ones provided little real value.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thank you! 🙂
@peterdambier
@peterdambier 7 күн бұрын
Very helpful. I am experimenting with Flowerpot Antennas for 2m and 70cm and for digital vhf radio. I guess they will do the job but they are not great. Cherio, Peter DL2FBA
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Cool! 🙂
@Electrotech1980
@Electrotech1980 7 күн бұрын
Great job, thanks.I had a problem with my washing machine on 80m. I purchased from Mouser 2 clip-on ferrite beads that worked best at low frequencies. The idea was that I was able to look at the datasheets with curves. I then clipped them on the power cord of the washing machine, with 2 wraps each. It worked. Buying a known ferrite is the best!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
I LOVE the success stories! 🙂 I wish I could put a ferrite on the entire city of Dubuque! We have an S7 to S9 noise level here and it is guys to the south of the city and guys to the north all have the same issue. I've turned off my own main breaker and ran my radio off battery ... no difference. 😞
@arnoldgrubbs2005
@arnoldgrubbs2005 7 күн бұрын
@@eie_for_you I know of what you speak! Keep after it, you will find what it is eventually! I have had s7-s9 noise here in my town, which is power line induced. It changes with weather, and seems to follow a HV feeder that passes my house about 300 ft to the east of my house . 4 or 5 blocks on either side of the line, the noise tapers off. It also reduced a lot last spring, but it seems to be coming back. Interesting thing, I had the power line drop coming to the house from the alley put underground (at my own expense) to give me more room for antenna construction, and while that was in process I noticed my neighbor had his power drop from the pole to the house and it was rubbing on a large tree limb. I noticed also that someone (doubt it was the utilities people) had wrapped what looked like part of a rubber door mat around where it contacted the tree and secured it with zip ties. So, I will be looking at this a little closer when the weather warms up this spring! I suspect that there was or is still leakage to the tree when the tree is moving in the wind, and it makes its way back to the feeder by the transformer in the alley passing the noise to the primary side. It then radiates out from that line which runs to a much larger substation 5-6 blocks north of me. 73 and good hunting!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
@@arnoldgrubbs2005 I hope to do a mobile search with my RF Explorer and a portable antenna....sometime! 🙂
@audiobrian1
@audiobrian1 Күн бұрын
@Electrotech1980 can you share a link for the Mouser beads that you selected and successfully tested, please?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you Күн бұрын
@ Yes, please share your discoveries. 🙂
@GworxOz3953
@GworxOz3953 7 күн бұрын
Please keep your silly bible bashing to yourself.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
🙂
@shagitup
@shagitup 7 күн бұрын
Ralph, the best explanation on the nano VNA ever. Period.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the encouragement! I am so glad that this video was a blessing to you. 🙂
@TH-1207
@TH-1207 7 күн бұрын
I don't recall you mentioning anything about the ferrite material. That makes a big difference too. A question how much difference does the split core make. They are convenient but at what price to performance?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
I did, indeed, make a note to pick the right material for the job. Good point about the split core. I would assume that the split core is a compromise for the convenience of being a clip on. I'm not sure how much that affects overall performance. 🙂
@OH8EFI
@OH8EFI 6 күн бұрын
I think material is the same thing as "mix" or..?
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 6 күн бұрын
@@OH8EFI As I understand it ... yes. 🙂
@qutips33
@qutips33 8 күн бұрын
hi thanks for the info. i have a question for you is it possible to use rig ekspert stick 500 to measure db deping through ferrite cores ?????
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
You need a 2 port measuring device to do this measurement. The Stick 500 is a single port device; it measures things like SWR, return loss, impedance, and the like. It cannot measure things like filter frequency response. This ferrite business is, in essence, a frequency response-type test. 🙂
@SkyhawkSteve
@SkyhawkSteve 8 күн бұрын
VNAs are great tools, and the availability of the inexpensive ones is great for the hobbyist. As for ferrites, I spent a lot of time working on EMC problems, and a selection of clip-on ferrites is very handy. Our lab used Fair-rite ferrites mostly. You do need to select the correct material for the frequency range of interest, and you should select the ferrite that fits snugly around the cable. The impedance of the ferrite will be reduced when there is a gap. As you note, you do need to read the data sheet and understand it. Measuring the ferrite is useful, but be aware that they usually have a large tolerance. I recall that a tolerance of 25% was pretty typical. It's more useful to just buy a good ferrite from Fair-rite or Wurth or other reputable supplier.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for the great advise! I cannot agree with you more. 🙂
@TrygveMedhus
@TrygveMedhus 8 күн бұрын
Exelent! But stop promoting your fantasy figure. It's just annoying.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad that you found the video helpful. I'm not sure I know what you mean by promoting my "fantasy figure." 🙂
@hankhamner3671
@hankhamner3671 7 күн бұрын
This is a dumb comment. The presenter did a great job!
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
@@hankhamner3671 🙂
@railgap
@railgap 7 күн бұрын
I think you commented on the wrong video or something.
@eie_for_you
@eie_for_you 7 күн бұрын
@ 🙂