This is an absolutely GORGEOUS sounding horn. Worth all the effort for sure
@AV1611Rochester2 ай бұрын
Looking for Sammy Rhine vintage saxophone player
@JamesCox-yw2pb4 ай бұрын
Great horn, I play the 1932 Conn Transistional. I agree that the neck pipe is probably a Pan, the normal neck has the brace. Big warm sound, agile is a good term to use re: the Transistional. Seriously underrated horns!! Good point about the ergonomics, but once you get used to the "foibles", I personally find the action so much more fluid the Mark VI. Great video!! Cheers!! James!
@Scrooks16 ай бұрын
I recently bought a Conn NW II model 1929 vintage that will need some adjustment, maybe an overhaul, the neck tenon might also be needing some adjustment. Do you know any good instrument techs that you would recommend? I used to work for Roche diagnostics and would travel to the , Risch-Rotkreuz, Switzerland facility. There was a reputable shop there near lake Zug.
@danielkinzelman70936 ай бұрын
Where do you live? I know someone in Berlin and several people in Italy.
@Ookanju6 ай бұрын
. . . get a- 'Trane feel, from that Horn, Man . . . and that's without the Otto Link "Florida" Brass Mouthpiece, Coltrane preferred . . . quite- lovely . . . you could play "Naima" or one of his recorded Ballads on that Beauty . . .
@Scrooks16 ай бұрын
I had a 1933 Conn Transitional tenor. It had rare art deco engraving and was in silver. It was an incredible player. I let my sax instructor play test it once, he was a Selmer MK VI fanatic and his eyes popped out when he heard the sound of that horn. I sadly sold it to someone in Japan.
@TonyAguirreJazz6 ай бұрын
Man that sounds great. I play a 90's Keilwerth that has the same vibe but not nearly as much personality, beautiful
@danielkinzelman70936 ай бұрын
Thank you! I am now playing another tenor, an old Italian instrument with a really unique sound. As soon as I have some time I want to post a video comparing them.
@antoniobondi42448 ай бұрын
The ideal compromise between new wonder 2 and 10m
@chitotanada13899 ай бұрын
conn 10M !!! nothing comes close !!!! not even a selmer
@martinstarup609810 ай бұрын
7.14-7.25 JoeLovano sounding 🎷🎼
@AlanSenzaki10 ай бұрын
My late brother sold his late 20’s Conn to Charles Lloyd in the early 90’s after his was stolen in Europe. I still have my brother’s Selmer Mark6.
@hartwheeler459110 ай бұрын
Mine is a 1935 Conn 30M and it’s amazing to me how resonant and alive it feels when played.
@hartwheeler459110 ай бұрын
Like you, my father had his MkVI stolen on a gig. He replaced it with a 1935 Conn 30M. The Selmer had been a like-new shining beauty and when I saw the Conn with it’s weathered finish, I had to ask if the the Selmer had been a better horn and he simply said no.
@oreodog11 ай бұрын
Something about the upper register of old horns that’s so addictive to tap into. I love my Balanced Action alto just because of this.
@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton11 ай бұрын
I have a 1924 Conn New Wonder ONE which is identical to the TWO (aka "Chu") in every respect except for the nail file G# key (production changeover, I think...). It's a great horn with a great sound, but of course, like yours, the ergos are what they are. I have the same horn in alto, and the tenor is easier in ergo respects.
@eungjoolee7032 Жыл бұрын
I have a THC, too. This is a great tenor!!
@furtherdefinitions1 Жыл бұрын
The 1924 was not a transitional sax, the transitional models began around 1929/30 becoming full-fledged 6M, 10M and 12M around 34/35
@JiveDadson Жыл бұрын
Selmer later improved the crook on the Mark VI tenor to make the bell notes better. I don't know when. That info might have disappeared when Ralph Morgan died. He told me there were, I think he said, four models of Mark VI's.
@johndeer4250 Жыл бұрын
ok so Wrong THC! lol but now I want a saxophone to go with my THC
@mariomalette4155 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! Really enjoyed it. 10M and VI were my favorites! The last one is very close to my Tenor VI year. Thanks again Love your videos Mario
@mariomalette4155 Жыл бұрын
Sounds absolutely beautifully! Congrats on that great tenor. I always wanted to one day to play an old tenor Conn!! Thanks Mario.from Canada
@jonmcbridemusic Жыл бұрын
Hey Dan - I've been enjoying these videos. Where is this horn shop!?!
@danielkinzelman7093 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, it's actually a museum, he doesn't really sell these - he's more of a collector. His name is Attilio Berni www.attilioberni.com/. If you want a nice selection of vintage horns for sale in Europe, you should look up Duchstein in Berlin. They are also great technicians and just generally really nice people.
@JeromeMaatz Жыл бұрын
the 24' new wonder tranny is a lunch for my ears i know this transitional models from this era beautiful horn and playing
@danielkinzelman7093 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@pontius25202 жыл бұрын
3:45 Yeah, ... right.
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
😆
@pontius25202 жыл бұрын
@@danielkinzelman7093 How is that horn treating you two years later? Love the mods you had done on that horn. I have a '32 transitional, and I put the same RH thumb rest on mine. I also moved the strap ring down which you don't mention but I see you moved yours down quite a bit. I love your custom LH thumb rest. Do you think your repair guy could duplicate one of those for me? I could solder it on myself.
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
@@pontius2520 Still really enjoying the instrument. Main disadvantage is pads sticking, I think that's a combination of my cold, humid house and the more primitive keywork not allowing a great balance between spring tension and finger effort (it feels light and good under my hands, but pads tend to stick much more than they did with my Selmer). You can try contacting my repairmain Domenico Bartolomeo here, not sure if he would consider making one for you or not, but it's worth a shot: domenicobartolomeo(at)libero.it
@빨리해서생긴일2 жыл бұрын
Hey guy how about conn 26m iii do u know conn 26m??
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Never tried it. I was looking for a tenor so I didn't play many altos during my search. But I do have an amazing Buescher Aristocrat alto which I will make a video of sooner or later!
@madyeti32242 жыл бұрын
I got a 1932 King “Voll-True” tenor. Beautiful horn, sings like crazy, I find ergonomics good…but yeah intonation is spotty as hell.
@km62069 ай бұрын
that's a very different horn though. 1940s were supposedly at lot better when many new designs.
@joelpowzyk52952 жыл бұрын
Good review. Joel Bb
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel
@jjlivepattern2 жыл бұрын
thank’s 🌞 as I know ya’ll know, like all the vintage classic saxes; each one that came off the line was different, had a different personality- sometimes wide difference in the personality among consecutive serial #’s. > Conn, Selmer, King , Buescher, Martin, Buffet. No modern horn EVER, has been able to match a good classic vintage horn. A few came semi close: Keilwerth, a few yamahas. Think more than subjective… its more fact. Conn with it’s rediscovery to the masses of how great these vintage horns were, are once again at the top. Some of my favorite recordings for all time were made on this horn, from decades ago to current. Lester Young, Gene Ammons, Dexter Gordon, Ike Quebec etc etc Thank goodness there are different horns with different personalities to choose from out there. Thank’s again for videos like these! Salud
@iggynamaruci3552 жыл бұрын
Hi there could you please tell me where these shops are I am going to Italy and I am also looking for an alto I can use for jazz school
@mprenn15472 жыл бұрын
Ouch. That had to hurt right down to your soul! I feel bad for you, but the kindness must have helped, hopefully.
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
It did indeed. Lucky to have a lot of nice people around me, and musicians in general were very, very supportive.
@trmn_jazz2 жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for you, getting a Mark VI stolen sucks!
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Yes, I don't recommend it.
@coolzac54862 жыл бұрын
10m is ❤️
@Dani-xz1uw2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's because Dexter Gordon played one that I'm biased towards it, but damn I love what the 10M is capable of. I wonder what's the secret that made them so special.
@JiveDadson Жыл бұрын
He switched to a Mark VI.
@BeesWaxMinder2 жыл бұрын
Did ya ever get your Sax back..?
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Not yet, unfortunately. I doubt I ever will, but would be very curious to know where it is now.
@BeesWaxMinder2 жыл бұрын
@@danielkinzelman7093 it’s only a matter of time… If you’ve got the serial number and you’ve alerted every online potential source/stolen goods register then who knows🤞?
@thomaskipfer10082 жыл бұрын
I was kind of taken by your assessment of the Zephyr, "hard to control the intonation." I'm sure the Super 20's improved in terms of intonation. I have a late 10M, beautiful finish. Intonation is never an issue. Just a further word on intonation; one of the problems you want to avoid is intonation issues. I don't think I'll ever buy a Zephyr, thanks for the info!
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Thomas. If you are interested in the Zephyr, I think you should try one before deciding against it. You may already know this, but maintenance (especially key heights) and mouthpiece choice can really alter the intonation of an instrument. Some commenters below have mentioned this as well. I think if I'd really loved the color or feeling of the Zephyr, I might have made the effort to work all the other factors out.
@irinapotoropina43222 жыл бұрын
does your super 20 silversonic have one octave key tone opening in the neck or two: one in the neck, one in the upper body?
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Sorry Irina, but I don't remember. These instruments are not my own, but part of the collection of Attilio Berni (near Rome).
@leycroftcoman54872 жыл бұрын
10 M . Sounded tops.
@kevindeibert33692 жыл бұрын
The old Conn’s get a beautiful sound ! I’d like to get one someday! I own a late model Mk VI that I’ve had for about 35 years or so !
@kevindeibert33692 жыл бұрын
I like Vintage Saxophones, but don’t own any currently ! Thanks
@marcpero73722 жыл бұрын
And now I have one coming
@hobbyhorse-ghosthorse2 жыл бұрын
Cool! I hope you like it :-)
@pgroove1632 жыл бұрын
That's really a beauty... Wonderful sound on it
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@thebritandtheyank38212 жыл бұрын
This is very good, very positive, and of course very productive! I only just commented on your other video, and am compelled to say that it's heartening to hear people delving into American Singers! I'd spent 17 years in the U.K. during which time it was a mixed-bag negotiating attitudes, so I fled to Garda for a while. Have you got a contact email you could share with me? Thanks
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very glad you enjoyed it. You can reach me at [email protected].
@thebritandtheyank38212 жыл бұрын
I have played a 1927 Conn Chu for 26 years, I'd had a "Selmer Rebellion" and while in England loved the Conn Chu immediately - save for the Chu having an uncanny ability to allow my frequent recklessness of power to display itself with very sharp pitch. This is a very enjoyable video, who made the airplane?
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The airplane was made by a friend of mine, artist and architect Mael Veisse. He also made most of the furniture you see in the video. He's averse to social media and online promotion, but if you'd like to see some more of his work you can check this out: coralesite.blog/2019/02/14/la-grande-casa-aperta/
@antoniomusgrove2 жыл бұрын
The horn sounds great 👍.
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Thanks Antonio!
@stephenbrophy8362 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel Great review! I've recently inherited a 1934 Transitional and after having it overhauled I'm loving it. Previously I was playing a Gold Medal SMl but haven't touched it since having the Conn. One slight problem is that I also get the pain in the left shoulder area whereas it was painless with the SMl even though it's a heavier horn. Is it a case of persevering with it and getting a monthly massage? Thanks again. Stephen
@danielkinzelman70932 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephen, and thanks for the comment. I'm not sure how much time you are spending with the instrument. When I first got the horn back, I was playing it a lot of hours. Now that I've scaled it back quite a bit (and I have a lot of days where I don't play at all), it's ceased to be a problem. I think this is both because I'm spending less time with the instrument, but also because my body has learned to relax a little more effectively when playing it. I do try to move around and change position a lot when playing, also some light stretching before and after seems to help too. In my opinion, it's really useful to stay mobile and relaxed. If I'm starting to feel stiff, I will take a break and get a glass of water, put down the instrument, walk around the room. Also, to keep from getting locked into a position, I will move around a LOT even while playing, like I'm doing stretching exercises with the horn in my mouth. Another important thing I find if you're doing long hours is to take a lot of small breaks - I used to take a one-minute break every 15 minutes or so. Good luck!
@kevindeibert33693 жыл бұрын
Sounds good ! I had a Zephyr Alto from the late 40’s …might have been referred to as a Zephyr “Special” right before the Super 20 was introduced! What’s your mouthpiece set up ?
@newfreedom213 жыл бұрын
i got some right. ya anything but this bare bones version I would think it would be a lot tougher to crack
@danielkinzelman70933 жыл бұрын
congrats! i think even if you don't manage to get all the chords it's an excellent exercise in listening, and it really helps you to listen on multiple levels, from tiny details of voicings to the broader, macro-structure of the song.