Now that I think about it, I will let this slide

That you probably use all the time.

The term upstate literally refers to everything not on the island

What are you talking about? It's still used today.

It most certainly was/is preserved. Certain parts like the Black River Canal (out of Rome NY) were removed but the main corridors is still used by thousands of people a year. There is now a bike trail along side most of it was well.

I saw a KZbin series a few years ago about a couple who brought a boat from Lake Superior, through Lake Erie, through the Erie Canal, to the Hudson River.

@robertewalt7789 they would have gone by my house in Brockport.

@@elwoodstanislav9068 Buffalo can really use your help, along with Niagara Falls, NY.

check out the eastside parkways coalition. They are actively trying to restore Humboldt parkway as close as possible to Olmsted's design.

Agreed, I have great admiration for those with the foresight to invest in the future of Buffalo. A society grows great when 'citizens with vision' plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit

did not know that, but can totally see it now that you mention it

IT'S HAUNTED, SO MANY SOULS ARE IN THERE SO MANY PEOPLE GOT KILLED IN THERE FROM RAPE DURING THE DOMINICAN AND PUERTO RICAN FESTIVALS THEY GAVE BACK IN THE DAY FEW YEARS BACK A LADY WAS GIVING HER BIRTHDAY COOKOUT AND SEEN A FIRE 🔥 SHE RAN TO THE AREA AND IT WAS A HUMAN KILLED SET ON FIRE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GOLF CLUB ENTERANCE WHERE THEY ALL SIT AND DRINK AT VOODOO BLACK MAGIC HAPPENS UP THERE AT NIGHT U FIND CANDLES AND MORE THAT WAS RITUALS GOING ON IT'S SO FUCKIING RAGGEDY OF PEOPLE TO FOOL OTHERS AND STAY SILENT UPON THE BAD HORRIFIC SHIT MY UNCLE GOT STABBED MULTIPLE TIMES AND THEY WRAPPED A WHITE SHEET AROUND HIM AND HUNG HIM FROM A TREE MY GRANMA BROTHER I NEVER MET HIM THIS WAS BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE I WAS BORN I WAS BORN 1979 MY MOTHER ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT FRANKLIN PARK CONCERTS YES SHE WENT TO ALL OF THEM BECAUSE WE GREW UP IN ROXBURY MASSACHUSETTS CLEAVES COURT IN EGLESTON FRANKLIN PARK IS SURROUNDING US , ITS HUGE CIRCLE, SO DORCHESTER, ROXBURY, JAMAICA PLAIN , WEST ROXBURY SOME PARTS ALL THESE AREAS OF THE HOOD IT SURROUNDING REGARDLESS U LIVE LOW TO HIGH INCOME HOMES OLMSTEAD IS WHACK THEY ARE SNALL GOT BUILT TO FAST I HAVE PEOPLE I KNOW LIVE THERE AND ALL THEY DO IS COMPLAINING RANTS UPON HOW SMALL IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE THEY WANT ALL THAT MONEY FOR NO REASON THIS PARK IS DANGEROUS, THEY CAN TRY TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IT'S ALL FUN PEACEFUL GAMES BUT ITS NOT THAT FUCKIING HOSPITAL SUCKS THEY ABUSE PAITIENTS THERE I WILL NEVER FORGET WTF I SAW WHEN I WAS 5 YEARS OLD VISITING MY COUSIN WHO GOT 3RD DEGREE BURNS 🔥 ALL OVER HIS BODY FROM HIS JOB STEAM HOT STEAM FROM FACTORY HE WORKED AT TORE HIS ASS UP SO MANY MENTAL RETARDATION PAITIENTS THERE GETTING ABUSED THE BATHROOM IT HAD ONE SPECIFIC TOILET WITH A DRILL IN PIPE STICKING STRAIGHT UP IN THERE LIKE IF IT WAS A TORTURE DEVICE IT LOOK LIKE A 12" SCREW STICKING RIGHT UP IN THE AIR LIKE IF THEY MADE THEM SIT ON IT AND THE PIPE TORTURED THEIR ASSHOLE HONEST TO GOD I'M TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT EVERYTHING A MENTAL KID RAN DOWN THE HALL HIS GOWN OPEN AND HE SAT RIGHT ON MY AUNTS FOOT PENIS AND BALLS WAS SPLAT RIGHT ON HER FOOT AND HE WAS LAUGHING ROCKING BACK AND FORTH THE DOCTOR'S PULLED HIM UP TOOK HIM TO THAT FUCKIING BATHROOM TODAY BULLSHIT STILL GOES ON IN THAT HOSPITAL THE SHATTUCK IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED IT LOOKS SPOOKY FROM THE OUTSIDE NOW COYOTES TOOK OVER THE PARK ITS GOING ON 3 YEARS NOW PEOPLE SCARED TO ENTER AT CERTAIN TIMES BECAUSE THEY ARE FLOODED UP THERE WALKING INTO THE HOOD OF ROXBURY. DORCHESTER, MATTAPAN , JAMAICA PLAIN , THIS VIDEO PISSED ME OFF BECAUSE THEY TALKING TO GENUINE UPON THIS PARK THAT PARK IS SOUL PARK THE SOULS ARE AWAKE THERE ALOT OF DUDES USED TO TAKE GIRLS UP THERE TO TRAP THEM AND RAPE THEM AND LEAVE THEM BEHIND IN THIS HUGE PARK AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY GOING ITS SO MANY SECRET AREAS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEY STAY ON THE MAIN STRIPS

These statements are inaccurate. Olmsted wanted to keep professional sports out of urban parks--mainly to discourage betting and drinking. The film shows many other kinds of sports historically played in Franklin Park, like tennis and golf. (Did you watch the film?) And he and Vaux included attractions like zoos in other urban parks (think Central Park Zoo). Of course, he believed that souls can be uplifted (not "purified") by "taking in the views." His insights into the importance of nature to human health were key in establishing our National Parks.

@@RobinKarson-g8t Not professional sports - just the kind of sports working men played in their time off. And tennis and golf were added AFTER Olmsted designed the park - they were no part of his design. In fact, the golf course was against everything he did. People were supposed to be able to wander the fields, not watch for stray golf balls. They ever brought in sheep to pasture on the fields because Olmstend didn't want the grass 'manicured.' And Central Park is irrelevant to THIS park - Olmsted wanted no zoo and no gardens - which also went in against his wishes. Only a small fraction of today's park remains from Olmsted's plan - he would have a heart attack if he saw it today.

@@JonFrumTheFirst I'm reading the book this is based on now, and it seems like Oldsted was aware that recreation areas were needed very early on. There were spaces set aside for lawn tennis and baseball. What he didn't want was crowds of thousands of spectators trampling the grounds with organized sports leagues. The design of the park was intended to keep playing fields at the edges of the park to make them easily accessible, and to keep the wilderness and the "valley" sections for picnicking and generally getting away from the urban noise and crowds.

@@Swamp_Hobbit Olmsted had to be squeezed into alloting space for playing games, so he put in the Playstead in the northwest corner, as far as possible away from the heart of the park, which is what became the golf course. And to make the point, rather than mow the grass, they brought in sheep to pasture on the field to give it that rustic look - it was all about the aesthetic experience of presented 'views,' not the satisfiction of the working people of the city.

Bwahahaha! The Black community can't feel a sense of ownership on the street they live? With not a White person in sight, who do they think owns their neighborhood? And displacing minorities - do you mean Mayor Wu's decision to 'sanctuary city' the Black community with illegal immigrants? Like taking over a youth community center to warehouse illegals? If so, then yeah - minority on minority crime. Except you don't mention the large Latino community that borders the park in Jamaica Plain. No ownership for them?

there arent thousands in a park in a single day 💀💀

@@zekzo I know. They all disappear 🫥

I’m sorry but “whaaaaaat.”

Huh ?

it’s WESTERN NY😡

Buffalo native, but I live in NYC now and I always correct them when someone says "oh you're from upstate" lol.

According to Long Islanders and NYC anything north of Westchester is "Upstate" New York

Everything North of Westchester is upstate NY including Western NY.

@@MercuryCold That's like saying everything above the south pole is the north pole.

We left. Never looked back. I'll save about 250k in taxes by not giving it to Hochel or whoever the Democrats select.

@SteveJC poor little guy! won’t anyone look out for the 1% 😢

Like elm Street and Delaware park

Buffalo is not a "dump of a city".

Thank a Democrat.