How valuable is Angel Reese?
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@houstonjames716
@houstonjames716 12 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis. Happy to see you put A'ja second without fear while using sound analysis. I still think she is the best...but you make Napheesa a credible choice for the top spot with your arguments. Very well done...felt like I was watching a Capstone Project presentation for a Master's degree...look forward to more. P.S. Bravest thing was the Chennedy argument...she is legit top 5 hated in my opinion, despite her high skill level. I can imagine having her in your top10 took some consideration...she is very polarizing.
@wishinesss
@wishinesss 21 күн бұрын
Yeah CC!
@teeceeemeeee
@teeceeemeeee 21 күн бұрын
The quality of analysis reminds of Thinking Basketball's annual NBA rankings, and that's saying a lot. I'll be looking forward to this yearly now. This is amazing.
@wnbaLover
@wnbaLover 21 күн бұрын
Napheesa collier is the most skilled i ever seen in wnba. The talent is unreal 🔥
@Flizop
@Flizop 21 күн бұрын
whew
@catabasketball1829
@catabasketball1829 21 күн бұрын
Great work!
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn 21 күн бұрын
thank you 🙏🏾
@Matthew-xl5bc
@Matthew-xl5bc 22 күн бұрын
Great list. My top 10 would be: 1. A'Ja Wilson 2. Napheesa Collier 3. Breanna Stewart 4. Sabrina Ionescu 5. Caitlin Clark 6. Alyssa Thomas 7. Jonquel Jones 8. Nneka Ogwumike 9. Jackie Young 10. Kahleah Copper
@oriandon22
@oriandon22 22 күн бұрын
sad to see CC and Sabrina so much higher than e.g. jones. watching sabrina brick shot after shot with jones holding the liberty together, it's hard to make sense of her sitting at #8 for me
@oriandon22
@oriandon22 22 күн бұрын
ps i see those median splits you make!!
@snapwilson316
@snapwilson316 22 күн бұрын
I agree with you for the most part, but a couple of areas where I disagree: 1. Every player needs some level of off-ball facility, which lowers my estimate of both Chennedy and AT for the purposes of this exercise. In addition to lacking a three-point shot, you rarely see Chennedy generating offense out of anything that isn't a drive to the basket, and you can't do that every time down the court. It is an issue I would worry about when picking her for a team in a vacuum. 2. I think the Aces guards generating most of the offense in the playoffs isn't a knock against A'ja, since her gravity is what facilitates it. Every team sells out to help against her which has left Chelsea/Kelsey/Jackie lots of room to maneuver, and they are skilled enough to take advantage, driving the offense into nuclear territory. Which isn't to say that I take particular issue with the ranking since I think there's a path to putting both Phee and Stewie ahead of her due to variety of offense (I still would take A'ja, though).
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn 22 күн бұрын
@@snapwilson316 great points! i’m insanely high on Chennedy for sure so i had a feeling that would get the most pushback. I think under Marsh she can really be a volume slasher/playmaker that has consistent top 10 impact. I’m curious to know where you have AT since I thought I had her ranked relatively lower than most people have her.
@snapwilson316
@snapwilson316 19 күн бұрын
@@jfeltonn I am thoroughly polarized on AT more than I've ever been on any player MNBA or WNBA. Even watching every single play of hers the year before I struggled where to rank her (I think I wound up putting her 7th). At Sixth Pod, we're doing positional rankings over the next few weeks and I'll have some time to think about it.
@qb101
@qb101 22 күн бұрын
Phee is the correct objective #1 spot on this list. It's not even a contest. I don't understand the reasoning for A'ja taking the MVP, honestly.
@itsjustkosi7209
@itsjustkosi7209 21 күн бұрын
Recency bias
@itsjustkosi7209
@itsjustkosi7209 21 күн бұрын
“Objectively” is crazy because guess who broke the most points accumulated in a season, first to 1000 points, broke the rebound record in a season, broke the ppg in a season record, became points leader in her franchise, became Olympic mvp and much more…
@itsjustkosi7209
@itsjustkosi7209 20 күн бұрын
@@_M.... please be fr now. a’ja single handedly carried that team on defense and offense. In what world is averaging 27 ppg not a benefit? Aces would’ve been worst in the league if not for a’ja’s defense alone. btw why would she add value in playmaking when she’s a big? that’s not her speciality. what value did phee add in playmaking?
@itsjustkosi7209
@itsjustkosi7209 20 күн бұрын
@@_M.... gray was the most inconsistent she’s ever been as well as much of the rest of the team. she didn’t even start much even when she came back. plus voters don’t have to vote someone for mvp if they didn’t think they’re the mvp… ppl have free will lmao. and when did winning mvp become a team award? so because they went 5-5 in the beginning they shouldn’t give it to the player with all these accolades listed above?
@itsjustkosi7209
@itsjustkosi7209 20 күн бұрын
@@_M.... like please be soo fr rn… a player averaging 27 and 11 brings no value to the table at least bring valid talking points 😐
@snapwilson316
@snapwilson316 22 күн бұрын
What are you using for box creation estimates?
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn 22 күн бұрын
Ben Taylor posted the formula in a nylon calculus article he wrote a few years ago. The full formula is near the bottom fansided.com/2017/08/11/nylon-calculus-measuring-creation-box-score/
@LEEboneisDaMan
@LEEboneisDaMan 22 күн бұрын
Good list. I don’t necessarily disagree with Carter’s inclusion but I’ll emphasize your point about lacking an outside shot. Simply put. I don’t think a guard can thrive in the modern game on slashing alone. They need to either be a playmaker with at least 4 or 5 assists per game OR an outside threat with at least 36% on 4+ attempts per game.
@Lulswitch
@Lulswitch 22 күн бұрын
Who are some players u think can crack the list next year?
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn 22 күн бұрын
Kayla McBride is one I definitely think can. Jackie Young of course is another that could easily make it next year as well
@NoLayups
@NoLayups 22 күн бұрын
Josh + Chinese Food , I love my Mondays afternoons
@boong3019
@boong3019 22 күн бұрын
Sabrina was clearly better than CC this year (don't ignore the early stretch), and I don't believe Chennedy was T10 this year a lot of players had a better case than her. Everything else is fair IMO. good video
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn 22 күн бұрын
fair. I'm EXTREMELY high on Chennedy so I understand that one is controversial. I think her numbers will explode with Marsh as the HC. I think CC and Sab are really close, but i can't say with certainty that CC's early season stretch was any worse than Sabrina's final 11 games or so to end to the season so that's my only pushback.
@IrishInot
@IrishInot 22 күн бұрын
No she's not. Stats says no.
@mkdugan8109
@mkdugan8109 22 күн бұрын
caitlin was sleepwalking to 25 and 10 by the end. that was sabrinas most contending season for mvp. a 41% vs 39% fg and a 52% vs 58% ts as well. sabrinas a pro but i really think this point is just people's tendency to favor someone because of seniority, because its not like caitlin didnt also have to make herself undeniable (rightfully so)
@qb101
@qb101 22 күн бұрын
@@IrishInot This. There is a huge tendency to downplay CC's skill, but you can't argue with her stats, especially over Sabrina. I love Sabrina, but she was hot and cold throughout the season and the playoffs. She belongs on this list, but not above CC.
@boong3019
@boong3019 22 күн бұрын
@@jfeltonn My thoughts on chennedy aren’t about talent. I expect her numbers to explode as well and at times she was T10 it just wasn’t consistent enough imo. On the CC Sab point I thought you blew by how you evaluated them as defenders this year. Both aren’t good but Sabrina was clearly better at that end. CC defense was outright detrimental at times this year I never thought that about Sabrina this year vs other years.
@Moonbagz
@Moonbagz 22 күн бұрын
Enjoyed your wnba videos this year!!
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn 22 күн бұрын
thank you! I can't wait for next season!
@jaythomas3224
@jaythomas3224 26 күн бұрын
Angel Reese is the Chicago Franchise Player I grew up in a era when Basketball players played defense. When PF's and Centers played in the paint instead of top of the key
@robertsaner8766
@robertsaner8766 28 күн бұрын
ok girl so wheres the video at- cause got me waiting
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn 28 күн бұрын
@@robertsaner8766 it’s coming this week!
@Villazento
@Villazento Ай бұрын
Catalina - a genius at work.
@CheyenneSedai
@CheyenneSedai Ай бұрын
Love the Thinking Basketball shoutout. You guys are the perfect combo of NBA/WNBA analysis between your two channels
@kptruthteller
@kptruthteller Ай бұрын
I can recognize all the players in the thumbnail from their outline 😂
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn Ай бұрын
😆
@boong3019
@boong3019 Ай бұрын
If you’re using ppp what’s the need for TS? Are you including passing and tov on synergy when looking at ppp?
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn Ай бұрын
yeah. the TS% is for scoring efficiency only. the PPP is for scoring volume (per 65) and playtype efficiency including passing & tovs
@bevo1120
@bevo1120 Ай бұрын
She single handed destroyed the sky franchise
@ajibayo
@ajibayo Ай бұрын
I agree with the general point made in this video. But is it just me or are these clips showing a few bad calls on Phee Collier by the refs? The one at the beginning where she “travels”looks like a perfectly fine pivot to me. Then the Phee “turnover” forced by Laney-Hamilton is a clear case of kickball to me. And that’s just in a few clips from a video! It’s almost like the refs aren’t used to seeing a player with such great footwork!
@ajibayo
@ajibayo Ай бұрын
She’s basically Allen Iverson but taller 😀 And did you all catch that push-off at the end of the video?
@ayabellabhojwani24
@ayabellabhojwani24 Ай бұрын
Hey Josh! Who do u think is gonna win? I'm a Sparks fan just enjoying basketball and these two teams gave me a lot of joy this season. Fingers crossed on Magic not interfering with Raegan Pebley so she can hire a coach that will lead us to playing basketball like the Libs and the Lynx. Libs in 5!
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn Ай бұрын
I've got Lynx in 5!
@clampsgiveup9235
@clampsgiveup9235 Ай бұрын
Banger
@jamesvandemark2086
@jamesvandemark2086 Ай бұрын
Now for Game 3. And Game 4. This will be very interesting now that they are in Minneapolis.........
@jamesbryant3654
@jamesbryant3654 Ай бұрын
Steward should of went up with her left on that last attempt. She shoots the layup with her left, she makes it. I mean it's fundamentals. You going for a layup on the left side of the rim, you shot it with your left hand. The same goes for the right side of the rim. Right side of the rim. You shoot layup with your right hand.
@mltgilbert1
@mltgilbert1 Ай бұрын
Incredible analysis, thank you for the breakdown. The Lynx are a great defensive team, you very capably help me understand why they are great.
@GangsterofloveSpacecowboy
@GangsterofloveSpacecowboy Ай бұрын
Good breakdown Minnesota wins series 3-1 or 3-0 👍🏾
@JP-pz5zh
@JP-pz5zh Ай бұрын
Great breakdown
@AlanSelph
@AlanSelph Ай бұрын
SUBSCRIBED 🙌 This was a great breakdown! Thank you bro
@msmagsmn
@msmagsmn Ай бұрын
I keep saying, this game was an epic poem. What a journey. I've already rewatched it twice 😂 Excellent breakdown, thank you!
@nicholaskatsikas4904
@nicholaskatsikas4904 Ай бұрын
Game 2 will reveal a lot about the Liberty. This was a devastating lost that could really damage them psychologically. If they truly learned from the Finals last year then they gotta stay even keeled and focus on execution. Good thing for them they have some days off and can really internalize the loss and focus on what adjustments they need to make
@rher9124
@rher9124 Ай бұрын
Amazing game and awesome breakdown. Keep em coming!
@stevechase7568
@stevechase7568 Ай бұрын
what a game and and certainly an excellent breakdown
@ndmaynard227
@ndmaynard227 Ай бұрын
Lynx taking down the dynasty killers
@RS-fk6mr
@RS-fk6mr Ай бұрын
How much of the blame do you put on Brondello for this loss? NYL fans on Twitter are calling for her head
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn Ай бұрын
I think Brondello deserves a lot of blame personally. idk why Laney wasn’t in the game when they needed a stop up by 3 and I felt she was way too conservative on offense in the last 5 minutes of the 4th.
@HunterCruse14
@HunterCruse14 Ай бұрын
Nobody else is doing this type of video breakdown 😤
@ayabellabhojwani24
@ayabellabhojwani24 Ай бұрын
Hunter 🤝 Josh! Two of my favorite film breakdown guys. Both of your content make us smarter
@Zangerstein
@Zangerstein Ай бұрын
I love film breakdowns. I love just feeling the flow of the game and all the thrills. I know the Lynx were switching and they use their speed on D, but the game becomes a lot more when you slow it, and break it down.
@Flizop
@Flizop Ай бұрын
Liberty in 4🗽🗽🗽
@bradleyttornado4909
@bradleyttornado4909 Ай бұрын
wanna bet? $10,000 Lynx win.
@carolhowson228
@carolhowson228 Ай бұрын
Who cares!!!! Now that I know the players, refs and execs are racist….. no one cares
@tochirobijeren3232
@tochirobijeren3232 Ай бұрын
Unrelated to the actual content of the video, but use this west coast type beat for every video gang. Ngl that shit had me locked in😂💯
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn Ай бұрын
haha i gotchu 😭
@clampsgiveup9235
@clampsgiveup9235 Ай бұрын
Banger
@jamesvandemark2086
@jamesvandemark2086 Ай бұрын
And- the Lynx never stop.
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn Ай бұрын
Was this the best game in WNBA playoff history? 👀
@turrlerabbit4884
@turrlerabbit4884 Ай бұрын
i'm definitely not as knowledgeable of a basketball fan as you and a lot of others, so i wanted to get your opinion on this. lots of fever fans are clamoring for stephanie white to come coach the fever, while a vocal few are advocating for sides to stay. i'm firmly on the get stephanie white camp. what are your thoughts on it, if possible? obviously they sign white if she's available right? also, awesome video, and i haven't watched much of the wnba playoffs but i'm tuning in to the finals. game 1 was crazy. definitely on the finals mvphee train thanks for the content!
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn Ай бұрын
I think Stephanie White would be a great fit in Indiana. I think she'll end up going there too!
@jfeltonn
@jfeltonn Ай бұрын
Who will win the Finals MVP? 👀
@tochirobijeren3232
@tochirobijeren3232 Ай бұрын
Great vid bro. I hope Minny wins tonight. if they do I got them in 5 vs the Liberty in the finals