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@Ash_tommo 15 сағат бұрын

As a Yemeni who speaks fluent Tunisian/Algerian/Moroccan Arabic, i could understand a lot of Maltese language. 🇾🇪 🇲🇹

@robkabar303 6 күн бұрын

This is goo

@MaxBorgMilton 8 күн бұрын

As a Maltese person I think its also really interesting that we have alot of differing dialects across our rock, everyone will understand what you're saying but the way we pronounce things varies alot.

@etiennebonanno 9 күн бұрын

To be fair, the lovely lady we hear speak at 5:07 has quite a marked regional accent, and as a native Maltese speaker myself, I actually had to concentrate slightly to understand her well as initially my brain did not immediately recognize her way of speaking as Maltese proper. I'm not 100% sure as I'm not an expert in Maltese dialects (and yes, Maltese does have several dialects or regional variations, even though it is spoken by so few people) but I believe her accent is from the island of Gozo (Gozo is the smaller island in the Maltese archipelago and they have a distinct set of dialects different from standard Maltese). @Sandrobrocc your Maltese pronunciation is quite good with some small issues. The 'h' in "ghandha" is not voiced (so you say "aanda" with a lengthened initial vowel sound due to the "gh". Also you stress some words incorrectly, for example in "solidarieta" the stress should be quite strongly on the final syllable while I believe you stress the third. But on the whole your Maltese pronunciation is very good.

@etiennebonanno 9 күн бұрын

Ah yes. I was right. She *was* speaking Gozitan. The video excerpt is taken from here kzbin.info/www/bejne/inSvq4CspcZ1bq8 and at the start of the video she specifies that she's from the island of Gozo and that she speaks a distinct dialect.

@Sundrobrocc 7 күн бұрын

true, and thanks for the tips!

@usb-c-aesthete 9 күн бұрын

you have a bputiful voice :)

@Nooticus 9 күн бұрын

Phenomenal video. So clear and interesting. Such a beautiful language

@baibac6065 9 күн бұрын

Both Maltese and Arabic are very beautiful. Guttural sounds in Arabic aren't spammed like some languages such as Hebrew and Dutch.

@zenzenyokunai 8 күн бұрын

What’s funny is Hebrew only sounds like it does because of its first speakers being primarily Yiddish native-speakers. If you listened to “oriental” or the original pronunciation of Hebrew it sounds a lot more like Arabic or more typically semitic.

@riinkun8775 7 күн бұрын

@@zenzenyokunai oh yeah, it's wild to hear haha. I have some relatives from Yemen with the accent, and it's very interesting to hear the difference including distinctions between sounds that was lost in the more dominantly-used Germanic influenced pronunciation

@KG-ek6qs 9 күн бұрын

wonderful sounds

@98bnu 9 күн бұрын

One thing I'd say is that saying għajn (Għ) is no longer pronounced is a bit of a misconception; It's deffinitley far less pronounce then in arabic, but if you're used to the language you can hear it in the words, kinda like a subtle accent on a letter sorta thing. The words with it tend to invite you to start at a very open throat noise and quickly taper it. Not an expert on describing pronunciation of letters so the descriptor of how you open your throat etc might be wrong, but if you're used to the language you can *usually* hear when a għ is there.

@Sundrobrocc 9 күн бұрын

This could be one of two things. The first possibility is that you're from the areas of Malta that *do* in fact preserve a certain degree of pharyngeal activation either on neighboring consonants or vowels when għ is present; no dispute there. The second possibility is that what you're describing is the phenomenon that happens in most other areas where għ is heard as a vowel being slightly "longer" which could be the "oppenness" you're hearing. This is known as compensatory vowel lengthening in linguistics-when a consonant is lost around a vowel, it's possible for the vowel to become longer to "compensate" for the spot the consonant used to fill. Let me know if that makese sense / have any further thoughts or questions!

@baibac6065 9 күн бұрын

I'm not Moroccan, but damn if you told me that you were Moroccan I'd not doubt you.

@sl-c4594 9 күн бұрын

This is so cool! All the videos work quite well with eachother. Also the cat is really cute :>

@Ptaku93 9 күн бұрын

nice video! I was just thinking of Maltese when it popped up in my feed, and recorded just a couple days ago - what a strange coincidence!

@Sundrobrocc 9 күн бұрын

awesome!

@zacharygossom1069 9 күн бұрын

la videografía le da tanta vida a la canción (y también me gusta ese anillo 🖤🩶🤍💜)

@Aesclingua 9 күн бұрын

Boy, did I come quickly Cool, but [vɛɾɪj stɾænd̠͡ʒ]

@Sundrobrocc 9 күн бұрын

LMAO?

@Aresydatch 10 күн бұрын

Trying to describe a dialect/pidgin as a language without trying to imply it as a dialect/pidgin Maltese is a pidgin and if you're a Maghrebi Arab who knows Italian you're pretty much able to speak it.

@Sundrobrocc 10 күн бұрын

Are you saying that that's what I was trying to do? Because I had no intention behind that lol I'm just describing Maltese as a method of communication-the line between "language" and "dialect" is blurry anyway

@riinkun8775 10 күн бұрын

As a Hebrew speaker with limited Arabic vocabulary it's really cool how structurally similar Maltese is to the two of them, and how much of it is legible to me over that! Would love to learn the two further in depth someday!

@Sundrobrocc 9 күн бұрын

they're truly fascinating languages when it comes to linguistics! i don't think root and template exists to such a degree anywhere else (iirc)

@deemergarufi3083 7 күн бұрын

Thanks for liking our language im the opposite of you cause i know maltese but wanna know arabic and hebrew :)

@pedrosegundo8109 10 күн бұрын

Can you make a video like this about the Chamorro Language? It is another awesome language.

@Sundrobrocc 9 күн бұрын

no promsies but i'll look into it!

@gkfntmvprtm 11 күн бұрын

was just reading about maltese the other day, what a lovely and unique language, and great vid

@ronanbakker 11 күн бұрын

I'm studying linguistics autodidactly and if you want I can teach you Dutch from British English and from there you can learn most continental European languages.

@Sundrobrocc 9 күн бұрын

Wat leuk! Maar wrm zeg je dat t me zoveel zou helpen als ik nl zou kennen? ik ben geen moedertaalspreker of vloeiend spreker maar ik kan een beetje hh

@MusicalRadiation 11 күн бұрын

I think I found my copy on the other side of the world; linguistics and music! Love the channel :)

@Sundrobrocc 9 күн бұрын

thats so cool! i'll have to check ur stuff out :)

@MusicalRadiation 9 күн бұрын

@@Sundrobrocc I don't have anything online at the moment, but I'm working on some projects :D

@Sundrobrocc 7 күн бұрын

i see! def make sure to update me (if u want) if u ever release stuff :)

@aspookyeel 11 күн бұрын

I’ve been procrastinating my (scientific) paper, and my homeboy writes this paper… Dawg

@Sundrobrocc 11 күн бұрын

wild man

@jakeplaysminecraft7863 11 күн бұрын

As a Maltese person, your pronunciation of Maltese words is pretty good, especially the 'q' (glottal stop).

@Sundrobrocc 11 күн бұрын

thanks man!

@klayz6847 11 күн бұрын

Im from Malta and i suck at the language. Its just hard and im focusing on spanish first

@baibac6065 9 күн бұрын

You didn't grow up speaking it?

@klayz6847 9 күн бұрын

@@baibac6065 yes

@baibac6065 9 күн бұрын

@@klayz6847 Are you not a native Maltese?

@klayz6847 9 күн бұрын

@@baibac6065 Bro i told you i am...

@ChristianJiang 11 күн бұрын

4:48 Interestingly, even the English version of this sentence loans the same words from Romance!

@ChristianJiang 11 күн бұрын

3:42 “as some native speakers tend to think…” Doesn’t that mean that reġinijiet is also accepted as a plural form in day-to-day speech? Since that’s what native speakers think reġina’s plural form is…

@Sundrobrocc 11 күн бұрын

Sort of, though note that the "grammatical" form rġejjen seems to be the most common one by far. I actually addressed this topic in a different comment, so I'll copy and paste what I said there: "I wanna make it clear I'm not prescriptively assigning a "correct" plural form and saying they're making a mistake otherwise, just rather that the instability of Maltese plural formation can trip up a lot of native speakers, kinda like how lots of native English speakers get confused with the past and perfect inflections of "to drink"-that verb has so many vowel alternations that I myself have said things like "I haven't dranken anything" which is technically ungrammatical-obviously you'll be understood n stuff so it's okay in accordance with descriptivism-but still an interesting observation." Lmk if that makes sense!

@teehee4096 11 күн бұрын

3:24 Wow, as an Algerian, this sounds like perfect Darja with an Italian accent!

@Atlantjan 11 күн бұрын

Nice video! But your pronunciation is VERY Arabic hahaha. H is almost never pronounced and the vowels are much longer than in Arabic

@Sundrobrocc 11 күн бұрын

Thanks for the heads-up!

@saarah5816 11 күн бұрын

gorgeous pieces. really lit up my afternoon!

@coolground 11 күн бұрын

Very insightful video. Are you a native speaker of maltese? If not what were your resources for learning it?

@Sundrobrocc 11 күн бұрын

I am not! I also can't say I "learned" Maltese, just researched enough about it to make a fun little video :) It really helps that I've been interested in and learning Arabic for a few months beforehand, given Maltese is a Semitic language. All my references are in the video description!

@niku.. 12 күн бұрын

An awesome video, I really enjoy learning more about Maltese! However at the end where you showed the sound changes from Arabic to Maltese, you used two incorrect symbols. The uvular fricatives are [χ] and [ʁ] not [ʀ̊] and [ʀ]. Also to me, it was a bit unclear whether the Arabic voiced uvular fricative /ʁ/ still sticks around as /ʕ/ in Maltese or if it merged with the original /ʕ/ before the loss of the voiced pharyngeal fricative (I think the latter is the case).

@Sundrobrocc 11 күн бұрын

Hey, thanks for the comment! I would actually disagree, especially with the use of [χ] to denote the sound represented in Arabic by the letter خ ([ʁ] is fine and generally can also be used alongside [ʀ], so no real issue there). This is something I've been investigating for a little while now and trying to understand. [χ] is often used when talking about sounds like the Dutch ‹g› sound and the French ‹r› sound (when around voiceless consonants), but to me, I cannot hear them as "fricatives". Same goes for Arabic-I don't think I've ever heard a uvular *fricative* realized from an Arabic speaker. Think about it and try pronouncing a voiceless uvular fricative without any degree of trilling, it's probably really hard and demands serious effort!

@niku.. 11 күн бұрын

@@Sundrobrocc that is actually a great point. When I speak German, I tend to switch between the fricative and the trill. The fricative is a bit more casual and the trill "over-articulated". I don't know what the situation is like in Arabic but I've only ever seen it described as a fricative and you also call it a fricative in the video

@Sundrobrocc 11 күн бұрын

Oh I see now, I did write "fricative" in the sound changes slide (I meant "trill"). Will correct that in the description!

@swaree 12 күн бұрын

I always loved Maltese, it's such a linguistic rarity

@Moses_Caesar_Augustus 12 күн бұрын

I love Maltese! It's a mix of languages, just like English.

@stevekeiretsu 11 күн бұрын

it struck me that the 'only a third of vocab is arabic derived, but it's the most frequently used third of closed group words and everyday things, and the grammar is too, so we classify it as arabic/semitic even though most of the vocab is romance' is uncannily like english, just with germanic instead of arabic and french instead of italian

@baibac6065 9 күн бұрын

Loanwords exist in every language. True mix or hybrid languages are probably creole/pidgin?

@Moses_Caesar_Augustus 8 күн бұрын

@@baibac6065 Most languages don't have loanwords being the majority of the vocabulary.

@user-id9bn1ic9v 12 күн бұрын

As a learner of Arabic I love reading Maltese. It’s like a puzzle!

@mamayut5085 12 күн бұрын

It's been so long

@Sundrobrocc 12 күн бұрын

😢😢😭😭🙁

@Sundrobrocc 12 күн бұрын

😍😍

@deadbushinc.5105 12 күн бұрын

3:38 Apologies for any potential ignorance but wouldn't "reġinijiet" being produced by native speakers automatically make it part of Maltese grammar? You make it sound as if these speakers are making a mistake even though it's their language

@Sundrobrocc 12 күн бұрын

Great question! I wanna make it clear I'm not prescriptively assigning a "correct" plural form and saying they're making a mistake otherwise, just rather that the instability of Maltese plural formation can trip up a lot of native speakers, kinda like how lots of native English speakers get confused with the past and perfect inflections of "to drink"-that verb has so many vowel alternations that I myself have said things like "I haven't dranken anything" which is technically ungrammatical-obviously you'll be understood n stuff so it's okay in accordance with descriptivism-but still an interesting observation. Lmk if that makes sense!

@somedude5990 13 күн бұрын

Wow they applied Arabic word forming to loanwords? The madlads lol. Actually thinking about it we sometimes do too but it's usually when you're improvising a word. For example years ago my cousin asked me: مالك مَفَسْبِك كدا؟ Roughly: Why are you Facebooking so much?

@Sundrobrocc 12 күн бұрын

thats awesome!

@pedrosegundo8109 10 күн бұрын

English does the same thing with its french words. Like Ice Cream, joyfulness, etc.

@DanielMemeSmith 13 күн бұрын

As a Maltese myself I am surprised to see a new video in my recommendations about my native language! Thanks for taking interest in this unique language.

@Sundrobrocc 12 күн бұрын

it's a lovely language :D

@DanielMemeSmith 12 күн бұрын

@@Sundrobrocc thanks again!

@robkabar303 13 күн бұрын

This video was such an insightful and well-researched dive into the Maltese language! It’s amazing how you’ve managed to balance both the academic side of things while making the content really engaging and easy to understand. The way you explained the pronunciation differences between Maltese and Darija was super clear, and I loved how you used cognates to highlight those distinctions. Even though you mentioned that you don’t normally describe languages as harsh or soft, I think you handled that part of the assignment really well-it didn’t feel forced at all! It’s also cool to see a linguistics project that goes beyond the basics and really digs into the uniqueness of Maltese, especially since it’s such a fascinating blend of influences from Arabic, Italian, and English. Your passion for the topic really shines through, and it’s clear that you put a lot of effort into making the content both informative and interesting. Thanks for sharing this with us-it definitely gave me a deeper appreciation for Maltese, and I learned so much! Looking forward to more videos like this!

@Nooticus 9 күн бұрын

agreed!! this channel is quite unique when it comes to linguistics content on youtube! along with 'Rhea's language ch_____' too!