Thank you! He’s definitely a lot of fun and someone I’m going to keep playing :) My friend also runs Haze half of the time, which is why I was decided to try him out haha

I’m also “high mmr” if you’re going by the tracker (which is the only way to “kind of” gauge that, but also doesn’t appear to be very accurate). I’m glad you have different takes though. That’s part of what makes games like this good, imo. Different builds and play styles should work better or equally for each person. If people played every character the same exact way then it wouldn’t be a fun game.

Bro if you're judging by that (in which ranked is out and even before then you're not even 2k mystic (I did search you after you responded)) that's terrible optimisation, like clearly, I cannot believe this video was even put out without proper testing if you're going to make a guide. I am genuinely impressed though that you got there with this play style, like honestly it's very impressive

I was 2050 two days ago. And I’ve been losing MMR even in games that I’m winning and doing well. Which is why I said that it doesn’t seem like an accurate indicator. It also doesn’t show or change after every game. I’ve also probably played about 50-60 games total because I just downloaded the game 3 weeks ago? So I’m sure that there’s still more to learn, and I’m never against constructive criticism when it comes to how I’m playing. If you have any of that, then I’m fully open to it. Also, I’m genuinely not trying to argue. Having different preferences and playstyles in videos (especially mobas) as I said before seems very normal. You can watch multiple high ranking (masters+) Zoe’s/Shaco’s/etc in League who are all getting good results while preferring different items. Some focus more on split-pushing, some are more gank oriented, and if it’s working for them, that’s great. Imo - the same goes for this game. A lot of people really like spirit ivy, but I tend to play her more with bullet damage/healing to act as a support. Especially since bullet damage gives more healing with her 2. Mo and Krill, I see as a tank/initiator so I build him for his sustain and to pick off people who are out of position. You might see him differently and get success in different ways based off of that.

Thanks!

Glad to help :)

There has definitely been changes to the class since this guide… But I’m glad I could help in that way! Haha

It’s important for new players to know, sadly… Because it happens in both norms and high roller. And if you know it’s happening you can maybe get around to rooms without spawns to be safe, or just start doing it instead so you’re at least not the person who’s caught off-guard. I made the video because in the past I had people asking how it worked 🙃

Thank you :) I know I definitely need to work on stuff still. This was probably my 7-8th game as Mo? So I’m definitely still learning new stuff as I go (positioning, etc) 🙂

Thanks for the tip! :)

Thank you! I’m happy you’re enjoying it :)

Mole Man!!! 🙌🏼 (Today’s video, in about two hours, is him again😉)

That’s fair enough :) This was only my second or third video after starting this game, so I was partially just trying things out and seeing if there were people who didn’t want commentaries, etc.

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)

Yeah… The “towers” in this moba are a lot less threatening than others for sure.

Issa nice

Free mid boss or free patron 😅😂

I could’ve added in two weapon items, but the main focus is to get turrets down fast/support items. So I don’t want to put myself back another 500/1250 (x2) when the build is already expensive enough. With most characters I do usually try to fill all of the slots.. But I’m sure there’s an argument for both sides and it depends on the character/game what you should do.

Hope it works out for you! I definitely should be using it more. I just started playing Deadlock like two weeks ago, and I’m trying to teach myself to actually use my actives 😅😬

@@Deltsong It's not easy :) I'm very new as well, trying to figure out where to put those turrets during a game.

Thank you!

That makes sense then. Thanks for clearing that up!

Yessir :)

@@Deltsong Loved your content then and stil do now that you're trying a new direction bro. Don't give up on the things you wanna make ! You're super engaging , keep it up chum : )

@@onix9947 thank you! I appreciate that

Surge of power is the only thing not in the build, but I’ll mess around with these too. I didn’t think about heroic affecting the turrets!

A few more tips: 1) Intensifying Magazine is an absolutely insane DPS increase for only 3k. If you aren't in a situation where you need to rush support items, I like to get this as my first post-laning/T3 item. It helps farm, it helps push, it helps ganks against people who won't just stand in your turrets. Even if you're focused entirely on spirit this alone will make your gun formidable for most of the game. 2) For super late game or a more gun/turret hybrid support, Ricochet+Inhibitor is teamfight winning levels of debilitating. Something I overlooked for a long time since I prefer the turret focused builds. 3) Mystic Slow is a 40% fire rate reduction in addition to the movement slow. It's pretty huge for teamfights from either a support perspective OR if you're one of the main DPS on your team, because it helps keep your turrets alive longer (they have 60% spirit res so with a decent health pool they'll only really die to guns). The slow also stacks with Mystic Reverb and Slowing Bullets (which is a decent choice for your last orange once you have Heroic Aura and/or have swapped Basic Mag for Intense Mag). **Edit**: Bonus tip) You can use your first wall shortly after you get to lane to block your creeps so they meet on your side of the bridge. This means the opposing laners have to cross the middle to CS or you can easily deny their souls as they float up behind a solid wall from their perspective. From there you can either focus the flag creep to push with momentum, or freeze the lane right under your guardian stairs.

I talked about intensifying magazine slightly. I usually don’t buy it until I get the turrets rolling though. It’s probably just a preference for when to buy it. I’ve thought about Ricochet/Inhibitor too! I just haven’t tried it too much with McGinnis specifically yet. That seems VERY late game though. I’ve tried out Mystic Slow a bit too. It’s definitely good, but there’s a lot of people who are building spirit power now, which is why I have it down in the situational tab. Thanks for the adding in all these tips!

Okay :)

You seem like a really cool guy

@@bobbertmcgee9772 dunno just tick me off, i was expecting some good mcginnis that's it.

Not gonna try and give advice to your critique? Please share your vast well of knowledge or are you just gonna talk shit.

​@@NizWolfWe're all still learning

Other vidya game haha One of my friends shared a code with me, and I loved the game. So I figured I would start doing YT stuff for this instead :)

@@Deltsong I know, brother. Your Rousing Rhythms still rings in my mind. Ivy do be a bit like Bard tho

😂😂😂 So. Many. Songs. Played. In some ways, Ivy is pretty similar haha

😂😂

Adventure points - basically just the ranked system :)

@@Deltsong Thanks for the video and the quick response as well! One thing I've been wondering is about spawn locations. I'm trying to learn cave troll and I never seem to spawn anywhere near the module. Am also struggling on rogue in general since most my time has been on fighter.

@@oxykostis3153 darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N This is a good resource if you want to learn the spawn locations. After a while, you’ll eventually just learn where you are, but this map shows basically where anything is while you’re learning. Just pick what map you want and then unselect everything that you don’t want to see! Or now you can just press M in game to pull up the map and see where you are :) When it comes to rogue… The most viable playstyle (imo) is hand crossbow poke sadly… Once you get enough gear (true phys and dex) you can use the one shot build from stealth build, but without it… Good luck tbh 😅

Thank you, I appreciate it :) The spirit build is a ton of fun! I’ve just been really enjoying playing support and saving people with heals/rescue beam. And Ivy really does great for just moving people around the map, or getting where you need to be at the same time. I hope the games go well for you 🙂

I agree that it’s great for roaming! I haven’t really had a use-case for it in a fight, and saw some tournament teams using it for team mobility, but I’m sure that’s probably not going to be the “most” useful as a solo que! I personally haven’t played Kelvin too much because I don’t like his kit as much, so thanks for putting in these tips! Rescue beam does seem interesting with ice path, so thanks for adding these tips in too! :)

If I could say to stand x meter away and then go in I would… But there’s no way to really explain that, other than just going in for trial and error, sadly 🙃

@@Deltsong the left to right attack you dont show how to dodge it

@OVOChatgpt if you stay far enough away between your attacks he doesn’t do it. You can crouch duck under if it happens though :) You don’t want him to do that attack though because it slows down your DPS to him if you’re dodging more. So just wait until his back foot starts to move forward after his side swing, and he won’t combo into it

@@Deltsong you realize your guide is shit if the majority of players see this attack and you don;t because you've masterd his movements yet you dont even include it in your video. Dog shit tutorial buddy down vote. how you leave out his main attack is actually retarded

@@Deltsong I actually finally see what you were saying.... still this should be in the video everyone is asking about it

Thanks for adding these tips in! I actually didn’t know the interaction of jumping onto the cube and using rescue beam, which definitely seems like it could be useful sometimes. I’m gonna need to try that out sometime! :)

Thanks! :)

I didn’t talk about that because I didn’t go down there. My bad 😅😅

I definitely did here 😅 I typically like to save some charges to all-in… But that wasn’t the play here. It worked out anyway though!

Thanks :) And alright, I’ll try it out. I didn’t really like his right click at all, but it makes sense as more burst with the 1!

Nice! He’s definitely doable with any class once you get the dodges down.

@@Deltsong agreed I’d definitely say wizard or rouge definitely require more skill then the others based off how low hp you have

@@noahbeanski2941 for sure!

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@@leebard9335 the melee upgrades work specifically for his 3, the puddle punch. 🙂 Some of the gun upgrades can definitely be good. I think when I was talking about that I was just meaning that I don’t like running a full gun damage build. If I said it weird, my bad! I’m unsure if the melee reload works with his 3… But I’ve been planning to try that soon! I’ve only been playing the game for about a week at this point, so I’m definitely still learning too.

@@Deltsong I've only been playing a few days. I know 'weapon damage' upgrades improve melee damage by half as much as it improves guns, so I was wondering if the puddle punch got any benefit from it. I mostly play Kelvin, but Viscous is a fun hero as well!

@@leebard9335 ahhh - I see. I was forgetting about that, but I’ll test it out the next time I’m in :) I’ve constantly been going into the practice mode on Ivy and Viscous to test things out with them to figure out how I want to play haha I do know that “in general” it’s good to fill out all of your slots with cheaper items because you get more value that way. Although I had a friend playing bebop that didn’t get one weapon upgrade and still dropped like 20 kills in a 30 minute match 😅

@leebard9335 just putting on high-velocity mags (which doesn’t have any spirit power) brings the puddle punch from 69-76 damage in the testing mode. The ability says that it’s considered a light melee attack. So just knowing that part should help out too! Random T4s puts it at 137. So it does scale with weapon upgrades, but there’s definitely a balance to it because without building spirit the goo splatter (1) won’t scale.

I’m glad you enjoyed it! I didn’t publish it yet… I was maybe going to mess around with it slightly more, but I can do that later today or tomorrow and let you know! :)

@@Deltsong thanks that would be great! I am pretty new to the game and a pre build to use as a base is very helpful considering the sheer amount of items available. I have already made a screenshot out of the video but the upload would be much easier :)

@denniskunze1661 I’ll comment here again when I get it published for you. I definitely understand about the items, and that’s part of the reason I like the game so far… But it was definitely overwhelming in the first few days of playing 😅

I had some time between things, so I just made a couple small changes that I wanted to do and published it. It should be “Deltsong’s Support Carry Viscous.”

@@Deltsong very cool thank you!

That seems fair. Basically just continuing to in and out to keep the enemies where the teammates want them :)

Ya and try and get animal abilities off help out if you get the chance use them like panther silent or bear tank really helps out as support more that you would think and make use of the chicken heal

I’m glad it helped still!

Yes, it’s damage over time during the cast. It’s “damage per beat” so during the second time it plays (when there’s no notes) every time you would’ve hit a beat it does a tick of damage. This scales with magic damage, but not really enough to be useful, sadly.. :(

Yeah, I feel like the 124s are great because you can gear up and have fun without having to spend insane amounts of time playing the game! :)

Okay, there’s a tooltip when you ready up for it that says it’s currently matching people of similar gear levels, so I assumed that’s what it meant :)

I wasn’t really min/maxing. I just threw on crafted gear and a full kit was under 125 anyway. :) Are we completely sure there isn’t gear score? (I’m not trying to argue, just genuinely asking if this has been confirmed) Because the tooltip when you ready up says that it’s matching people of similar gear 😬

​@@Deltsongi experience a huge skill difference between 125+, i feel like there is. And i have 300+ gs with double movespeed self found boots so.....

Thanks :)

I’m definitely planning to sometime :)

Awesome! I have a couple other friends who have been messing with that too!

​@@Deltsong I figured I dont have the money to open a restaurant, but I DO have the time to learn UE5. Im realistic about development, so Im not starting with BIS MMO OMG game, but Im hoping to get some games published on mobile or steam to start generating some revenue

Good luck, my dude!

@@Deltsong I appreciate you bro!