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@GeorgiAndre 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, Christ, this way of asking a question via KZbin is a little bit unusual - I didn't find a better way and perhaps the question is interesting to other players as well... In my understanding Bottesini did play on a Testore bass which was originally a four string bass (correct me if I am wrong). As a soloist Bottesini did remove the low E string (which he didn't need) and throughout his life played this bass as a three string bass. Now - what I am asking myself: Bottesini was always interested in exploring the upper register of the bass - why didn't he put a C-string as highest string and uses his Testore as a four string bass, just a fourth higher than "usual" basses? (At least for me as an intermediate bass player concerning the intonation playing scales and arpeggios in one position is much more safe than constantly moving up and down the neck on one or two strings so this would make sense to me.) As an expert do you know whether Bottesini ever tried this? (I mean he always experimented with different tunings, so the idea of a fourth C-string might not be that unusual...) Thanks, Chris - if you can't answer for whatever reason: just ignore this post!
@chriswestbass 2 ай бұрын
Hi, 3 string basses were the norm in Italy for most of the 19th century, so I don't think Bottesini would have had to convert his bass. Adding a fourth string puts more pressure on the bridge, making the bass less resonant. That wouldn't have been good for somebody who had to be heard over an orchestra. Bottesini argues that 3 strings are better than 4 in his Method.
@GeorgiAndre 2 ай бұрын
@@chriswestbass Thanks a lot, Chris! I'll get a copy of Bottesinis method book!
@Innergameofmusic1 2 ай бұрын
reinshagen didn’t die in 1944 because I had bass lessons with him in LA in 1963 as did Gary Karr. Perhaps he died in 1964? Barry Green
@chriswestbass 2 ай бұрын
My mistake. Thanks for pointing that out. I found Herman Reinshagen (1864-1944) on FindMyGrave in NY state, but I think that’s his father because his obituary said that his son lived in California. I should have realised he couldn’t have died that long ago, sorry!
@Innergameofmusic1 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reply. Best to you!
@chriswestbass 2 ай бұрын
@@Innergameofmusic1 Best to you too, Barry!
@doublebasshq 2 ай бұрын
This is super cool, Chris!
@sergiofois6825 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your wonderful work!
@ositoCastro 2 ай бұрын
Nice job.
@ositoCastro 2 ай бұрын
I learnt this piece in my third year, I got it with a recorded piano part from a Music Minus One LP edited by Dave Walter. One of my most exciting moments as a joung player
@ositoCastro 2 ай бұрын
😁
@DavidDalyDoubleBass 2 ай бұрын
So fascinating to discover the twists and turns that a piece of repertoire has taken. Respect for the deep detective investigation that went into this!
@chriswestbass 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! It turned out to be a real rabbit hole. Who would have thought that a 3 minute piece would have such a complicated backstory?
@GeorgiAndre 2 ай бұрын
Lot's of detective work - VERY interesting! Thanks, Chris, for all the information, great video! -- Your book on Bottesini is essential reading, I got so much out of it!
@chriswestbass 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed the book and the video! So much to learn!
@GeorgiAndre 2 ай бұрын
@@chriswestbass Your book on thumb position is an essential study book as well! Great tips on how to play Bottesini. Thanks, Chris, for all the good work!
@cookscatapults 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha Awesomenessss...Love the Book...
@cookscatapults 2 ай бұрын
Awesomenessssss.....Thanks.....And Thanks for a Great Book as Well....
@brokenelectronics3665 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating, thank you for all the work that went into this video. I don't understand why this channel does not have more subscribers.
@chriswestbass 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! Hopefully this one will bring a few more subscribers in!
@brokenelectronics3665 2 ай бұрын
@@chriswestbass I'm principal bass in the Connecticut Symphony, I'll try to spread the word to my colleagues.
@worsado2132 2 ай бұрын
WOW! I was just practicing this piece before I went on KZbin and found this video. I never knew that Reverie originated as a piece for voice, but hearing that version has completely changed how I hear the piece! It's given me so much context and motivation to play it as lyrically as possible. I'm a young bass student, so videos like these are what inspire me to keep working! Thank you so much Mr. West for this incredible video and deep dive!
@chriswestbass 2 ай бұрын
That’s great to hear! If you keep that bass singing you won’t go far wrong in Bottesini.
@themusiccovenant 2 ай бұрын
Excellent
@philtudor2399 2 ай бұрын
What detective work. Well done. Did it involve trips to New York, Palma, etc?
@chriswestbass 2 ай бұрын
I have been to those places in the past, but for this particular video the furthest I got was Banbury! It mostly just involved sitting on my sofa surfing the net and occasionally getting assistance from some very helpful librarians.
@diegodelatorrecalvo2045 4 ай бұрын
Gracias
@MsCellobass 4 ай бұрын
Im glad that the upright has a lot of harmonics because those strings are so thick! And i suppose they help with learning the huge fingerboard😁
@chriswestbass 4 ай бұрын
You’re right, they are a great way of getting to grips with the geography of the fingerboard. And all those harmonics are in the same place on the bass guitar too.
@DS-ul4ow 5 ай бұрын
Chris, I am so pleased to have seen this. It contains some footage of my late wife, Inez Wyrick, that I have never seen before. Thank you for uploading this. Made my day.
@chriswestbass 5 ай бұрын
Hi Donovan, I’m so pleased this found its way to you. What an inspirational teacher Inez was.
@themusiccovenant 5 ай бұрын
Excellent
@DiscoverDoubleBass 6 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful video! Thank you for posting Chris!
@themusiccovenant 6 ай бұрын
Excellent
@themusiccovenant 6 ай бұрын
Amazing. Do you give private lessons sir?
@chriswestbass 6 ай бұрын
Sure! Drop me a line via the contact form at chriswestbass.com
@johnmears9056 6 ай бұрын
Four basses on a train? Impressed.
@chriswestbass 6 ай бұрын
It was a sleeper train. It was a long time ago, so I don’t remember exactly, but we might have bought bunks for the basses. Or maybe they were in hard cases in the guard’s van. Travelling with a bass was much easier in those days. You could buy a seat on a plane for a bass if you wanted.
@melaniamonicacraciun9900 6 ай бұрын
Music is the most delightful way to waste the time 🎉❤🎉 now we have the scientific evidences that music is healthy, regenerating, it's not only the best placebo narcotic helping us forget any frustration or stress, but it's removing for good any trouble 🎉❤🎉
@edbabar7609 6 ай бұрын
This is great Chris - so fun to see all of the different activities. Thanks for leaving the adverts in as well - very nostalgic 👌
@chriswestbass 6 ай бұрын
Rodney was so good at finding ways of strengthening bass playing at every level. He wasn’t just interested in the virtuoso end of things; he was catering for players of all ages. All this stuff transformed the landscape for bass playing around the world. Where would we be without Yorke Edition? (I didn’t know how to edit out the adverts, but they do add a certain period flavour to the whole thing!)
@nicholasbayley1 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this Chris!
@michaelanderson001 6 ай бұрын
I had just left Manchester, so would not have seen this on Granada tv. By this time I had already decided that one day I would like to play a double bass. I didn't buy one until I left the RAF in Aug 1993. I am still playing it now (although there have been some years when progress has been very slow). I don't have a teacher, but still enjoy working things out for myself.
@chriswestbass 6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome! Can we spot anybody we know? I see Matt Coman, Ian Crawford, Jonathan Vaughan.
@8r0ck 7 ай бұрын
Hello, for the C scale it looks like for the G harmonic note you use a thumb going up, but the 2nd finger going down, is this correct and could you please explain why? I didn't notice that on other scales
@chriswestbass 7 ай бұрын
No, on the way up I am playing the G on 2 also. (The thumb is over the F I have just played.) All these fingerings are the same on the way up as on the way down.
@8r0ck 7 ай бұрын
@@chriswestbassAh gotcha, thanks very much
@8r0ck 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the knowledge
@ositoCastro 7 ай бұрын
Very talented young people, so fun this piece, certainly the most popular db quartet. btw I haven't heard from M. Slatford for a long time. Thanks for sharing. Johnny
@chriswestbass 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, Johnny. I haven’t heard from Rodney for a year or so but I’ve sent him a message just now. He did such great things for the double bass.
@philtudor2399 7 ай бұрын
I loved this. The Tony Wilson introduces a nice arrangement, (funny last note), in your youth and then trying to guess the date. Great fun.
@chriswestbass 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, Phil! Glad you enjoyed it. I think you were so quick off the mark that you watched it before I wrote the description!
@jayphurs-stuff 7 ай бұрын
quite interesting! thanks for this video.
@jaguarjaguar8437 11 ай бұрын
THANKS FOR LESSON!!! WONDERFUL!
@chriswestbass 11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@schrodingersdog7838 11 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@josesegura5340 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, are you considering posting any new videos soon? I love your approach
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
Hi Jose, thanks for your kind comment. I hope you saw my recent video about bowing exercises and I certainly plan to do more when I have a moment. I’ve been so busy! So many orchestras in the UK seem to need a guest principal double bass right now. Good luck with your playing!
@shawnmarko7131 Жыл бұрын
I feel it necessary, right now to stop what I'm doing, find one of your vids and thank you for the instruction. I hope to one day meet and play for you.
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
I look forward to hearing you play!
@shawnmarko7131 Жыл бұрын
That sir is a real motivator. I'll work to present myself properly!
@doublebasshq Жыл бұрын
I love this, Chris! I’ll be practicing this today when I get my bass out. Bravo on another excellent and informative video!
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jason! You produce excellent and informative videos every few days!
@baajpakhi Жыл бұрын
I Just started violin let's see how is it going to be work ..and also love this lesson
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t want to make any rash claims for an instrument I don’t play, but I think it might be the same movement on a violin. Perhaps I should change the title of the video to ‘Four Exercises to improve bowing on a string instrument’!
@jonnyalbino69 Жыл бұрын
Such good tips always!
@joshmcdzz6925 Жыл бұрын
love it
@felipenicholls6434 Жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson !!! Thank you so much 🙏
@phber Жыл бұрын
Great video! But i have some trouble following your minor arpeggio argument. Ok so the distance between E B and G are exactly 1/5 apart since they all produce the high B overtone but what does that have to do with the relation between notes 3-6 in the overtone series ?
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
Thanks. The notes under the nodes go down by the same intervals as the harmonics go up. EBG is the inversion of DGB. And the inversion of DGBD is a minor arpeggio. Does that make it clearer?
@phber Жыл бұрын
@@chriswestbass I see that this is the case, but how can i make intuitive sense of the fact that the undertone series happens to be equidistant on the string?
@michaelanderson001 Жыл бұрын
Blimey. That was so simple and it makes sense.
@michaelanderson001 Жыл бұрын
I've just discovered your videos and will try and follow them (as I don't have a teacher). I play in a small community orchestra as the only double bass player, so there is a lot of pressure on me, especially when we have an approaching concert and I have to spread my playing time between practicing our orchestral pieces, my playing technique and keeping on top of scales/arpeggios.
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, thanks for watching my videos. I teach at music college, so most of my students are advanced, but I hope there will be things you find useful. Good luck with your bass playing!
@michaelanderson001 Жыл бұрын
I'm nowhere near the standard your videos were aim at (only ABRSM grade 4), but I had a lightbulb moment earlier this year. I started saying the notes out load as I played them. This was something I wish I had the confidence to do when I first took up the bass (started in middle-age after I left the RAF). It has made it easier for me to navigate around the top half of the fingerboard. Your method seems easy, but when trying it, I was more concerned about fingering than the notes I was actually playing in each scale. Currently only learning Ionian Mode scales at the moment, as I'm still trying solidify what I've learnt/am learning (no current teacher at the moment).
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
That’s interesting. I think it’s good to reinforce all the connections between how the note sounds, what it looks like on the page, what it feels like under your fingers (both hands!) and what note it is. Your method of saying the note out aloud seems to be a good way of building up those connections.
@ericweultjes9281 Жыл бұрын
The E scale you start with is a major.....
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
No it’s not. EF#GABCD#E is E harmonic minor.
@jonnyalbino69 Жыл бұрын
This series of videos, is by far, the best double bass technique series on KZbin! thanks for sharing all your knowledge and expertise Chris! As a jazz player we have to sometimes encounter the unusual 'Harmonic Major' scale, a major scale with a lowered 6th, if you were going to devise a good fingering for this scale how would you approach it? many thanks
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonny, that's very kind of you! I'll give your question some thought and get back to you.
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
After thinking about this scale, which I’d not come across before, my first approach was to modify the major scale, fingering 1424 1224 124 1224. But if it doesn’t take you too high up the string you might want to end an octave 2412 rather than repeat the 2.
@jonnyalbino69 Жыл бұрын
@@chriswestbass Hi Chris, thanks very much for taking the time to think about this, that makes perfect sense! Welcome to the strange world of the fourth forgotten scale..
@alfieharries Жыл бұрын
So weird that a sharp 4 would be one of them
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
Western harmony is based on the octave, the fifth and the third i.e. harmonics 2, 3 and 5. So any harmonic that isn’t a multiple of these three numbers is unlikely to be a note in our scale. In a way it’s more of a surprise to find that harmonic 7 is quite close to one of our notes than to find that harmonic 11 is nowhere near one.
@hjalmarmalcusmartner629 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I just wonder what fingerings you would use on when playing a two octave E flat major scale. Should you start on the A or D string?
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
For E flat major I would start on the D string and do the fingerings usually used for the first and third octaves - 14241424 1313123
@USETrio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new video!
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@rednexttoblack Жыл бұрын
nice
@leifdering3600 Жыл бұрын
Just want to say, your Bottesini book was such a great read! I loved the peek into Verdi's frustration with his bass section with Othello.
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Leif. I really enjoyed researching and writing the book and I’ve been thrilled with the response from my colleagues in the bass community.
@Musicman914 Жыл бұрын
Your tutorials are fantastic. I am in an erea with no double bass teacher's so I have begun teaching myself how to play. I have begun taking music theory lessons with a teacher and I am trying to stay true and ethical (sitting correctly, holding bass and bow correctly etc. ) You are one of the main KZbin Double Bass Teacher's that I go to when I have issues ( which tend to be daily,hourly or every second minute it would seem.) Thank you.
@chriswestbass Жыл бұрын
Hi Alexander, thanks for your nice comment and good luck with your bass playing. I only wish I had time to make more of these videos, but luckily there are people out there like Jason Heath who produce great videos regularly. Perhaps you could find a teacher who gives online lessons by Zoom? One of the few positives from the pandemic was that it taught us that you can achieve plenty in an online lesson.