Well done Katie and Scott for sharing compassionate conversation at it'e very best. I hope it reaches the wider audience it deserves and opens much needed dialogue for those who need it most. Words matter. Kindness matters. People matters. This podcast matters.

A big congratulations to you Katie, great run for you at The Great Scottish Run, I ran the 10K version, but are you sure that your result was correct? I noticed you ran it in just over 2 hours 31 minutes, however, I notice a runner in the photos with you also running, that runner ran it in a time of 2:13:46, that's 18 minutes of a difference, the photo was taken in Glasgow Green within 200 metres to go.

I get the dark places. I did the 10K, my first race. Thing is, 10 months ago I had just been out on a first run after 4 weeks off to get a hip flexor issue some rest. That first run I fell in a pothole and pretty much done in my ankle ligaments. Now 10 months on, I’ve did the GSR 10K. Those dark places early on in the healing, then when I could get “running” my times were dreadfully slow. Now I’m on where I was pre injury, plus two or three minutes. I am now aiming for more next year, the train down starts Wednesday for the year. I usually take 6 weeks to train down. 2025, I now plan on taking at least that 24 seconds off my 1:14.24 time in the 10K. Might train up towards a Marathon distance. Thank god my training route has hills, lots off them, makes St Vincent Street look easy to my eyes. Rest recover and come back strong next year!!!

An interesting insight into the parts we would never know or appreciate. Thanks Katie