Going to the suburbs to escape ugly roads? U sure?

@@MrAronymous yes actually. I can at least drive on the roads in the suburbs without having to worry about my car's or bike's suspension.

​@korcommander enjoy the suburban roads now before they break and suburbs cant afford to fix all of them.

@@Knightmessenger The big city couldn't fix its roads way before, despite all the money.

@@korcommander makes you wonder why we keep building new infrastructure instead of fixing the existing one first.

I dont think thats whats being said. People often live in suburbs to have the idea of "living in nature" but really the sprawl is just ruining the environment. Cities are often planned so poorly that they do not incorporate the parts of nature that you are talking about that are good for mental and physiological health. We should be adding those aspects to cities rather than making cities just endless freeways, parking lots, and department style stores. Some examples are much of chicagos shoreline being given to the public as different types of parks. Also when you look at cities like portland oregon they include lost of trees along streets. large parks like central park are also one thing. anyways, cities need to add lots of that along with density to create the green space and visual interest needed. The visual interest with architecture is another thing too. I think we can agree that you are right that people are meant to live in nature. but I think that we need to achieve that with density to also protect it from the negative externalties of sprawl. Also, when most people think of a "city" they are just thinking of a poorly planned city. It seems like you are thinking a city is the polar opposite of nature.

@@benjamindumezI think the best way to go about this is to build nature into the city rather that building the city into the nature. Though urban expansion is inevitable, I believe that there is a lot of value in terms of preserving some of that nature within the urban realm

False dichotomy

If everyone lives in nature nobody lives in nature.

You think living in a suburb is "living in nature"? I live in a densely populated area of Stockholm, Sweden with subway access, but still have a ten minute bike ride to two different large nature reserves, I think that is much preferable to the endless sprawl that is American suburbs. Suburbs are just a different kind of urban form, they're not nature simply because people have private lawns.

@@dijikstra8 that’s nice. Have you been to America?

@@NoirMorter Yes I have, lived in NYC 15 years ago.

My response to this segment, in meme format: 'Stares in Vienna"... In this section she's not debunking a NIMBY myth, she's making a political statement of opinion. Bad opinion. Harmful and either ignorant or callous opinion. ... She's just parroting ideology and provides zero justification for the opinions she is expressing as if they are facts. She claims "we" don't want the government to build housing (an opinion many do not share). She claims building public housing would raise taxes, which is flat out wrong - public housing pays for itself as the tenants pay rent and the costs are significantly lower (discussion to come on my next point). She claims the private sector can build housing more efficiently - a claim that depends on what definition of efficiency is - If measured only by financial return for investors, private for profit housing is more efficient. - If measured by cost to the public per housing unit delivered (but to who?), it's a wash or very close - If measured by cost to the residents, public or public supported co-operative housing is vastly more efficient. How does that work? There are a bunch of different categories of factors, incentives, and costs that are very different between the types of housing: | Rental | Condo | Co-op | Public Land Ownership | Investor | Collective | Public or | Public | | | Community or | | | | Collective | Unit ownership | Investor | Individual | Collective | Public Maintenence cost | Investor | Collective | Collective | Public | | or Individual| | Rent Paid to | Investor | Unit owner | Collective | Public Build Incentive | Max Rent | Max Profit | Housing | Housing Owner Incentive | Max Rent | Max Gain+Rent| Housing | Housing Cost Land |Seller wants the max mkt rate | Low Lease | Zero Build Finance |High rate short term bank loans| Credit Union | Access to low government rate Infrastrucure | Same in all categories Planning Dept | Close to same | Potentially Higher Materials | Close to same | Potential volume discount Developer Profit | Zero Or high | MAXIMIZED | Zero | Zero GC Labour | Same in all categories GC Profit | MAXIMIZED | MAXIMIZED | MAX or 0 | MAX or 0 if public employee Subtrades Labour | Same in all categories Subtrades Profit | MAXIMIZED | MAXIMIZED | MAX or 0 | MAX or 0 if public employee Mortgaged cost | MAXIMIZED | MAXIMIZED | Moderate | Construction & Maint cost only Mortgage Struct | Equity fund | Individual | Bond or Access to low government rate Resulting Rent | MAXIMIZED | MAXIMIZED | Moderate-Low | Minimum required Second Resident | MAXIMIZED | MAXIMIZED | Stable | Stable

as it should be.

Many people like living in dense cities. And if cities are more dense instead of sprawling suburbs, your ranch will have more room in nature.

In the US and Canada, we would rather be homeless than make these changes.

The way I interpreted that claim she made was that if you counted people living in 10 or more story buildings, it would overwhelm mobile homes (&c). If you counted 5 story and above it would overwhelm it even more and so on. Twenty stories is where it balances out and residential buildings of that height are not common at all.

​​@@tomtrask_YT20 story buildings are complex to build . Skip zoning and mixed used iin residential neighbourhoods . When you transform 7 of the 61% detached homes into semi detach any housing shortsge could be solved. Just 1 in 10 single family zone plots into a duplex ..No new road structure needed ... Ahould be not so difficult imo. (And .., build ( mix used) midrise around every transit station ...)